/mag/ Martial arts general

>>2321443
>WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A MARTIAL ARTS GYM:

be unbiased and objective to actually see anything in the first place
- the coaches Are knowledgeable
- the coaches are able to evaluate students objectively
- the coaches can use their knowledge to solve problems and answer questions logically
- the physical conditioning methods follow scientifically valid facts
- in turn, people get better, people have fun, because of the fact that that's what makes a good gym, not despite the fact

Different combinations of different training methods are more efficient than others.
Different combinations of training methods work more efficiently for some individuals than others.

Failing to obtain adequate sleep impairs cognitive function, and therefore impairs one's ability to learn and develop skill.

Failing to maintain healthy psychological health impairs cognitive function, and therefore impairs one's ability to learn and develop skill

One's cognition works best at certain times during one's sleep-wake patterns, so one would learn and develop skill more efficiently during those periods.

One's diet contributes to cognitive function.

How soon after one has eaten how much of what kinds of food, effects one's cognitive function.

There are many things that can be gained by practicing martial arts.

By practicing martial arts, the benefits of athletic activity and exercise can be gained. Chances of developing diabetes, and heart disease, are decreased. With more dense bone structures, and with more dense muscle fibers, chances of incidents causing relatively larger injury, are decreased. The ability to digest food is increased.
Stress may be decreased, and the ability to maintain and improve psychological health is increased. Anxiety, restlessness, lack of focus, irritability, sadness, these are decreased.
By developing a body of knowledge, and skill, psychological well being may further be increased.

With the benefits of better biological and psychological health, one's ability to obtain sleep and maintain psychological well being is increased.

With improved quality of sleep and psychological well being, one's ability to improve the quality of one's life is greatly increased.

Yo anon here who posted about joining his school's wresstling club. Turns out they only take guys with some experience/just don't want to teach the basics so kinda bummed and don't know what to do

>>2321674
Were there any Judo clubs nearby? That's the closest thing you'll find.

>>2321674
Join a judo or jjj gym if available.

>>2321637
This is fucking so true
I used to do kyo for years I got to green belt and stopped due to senior and uni then work was always nights. I gained 40 KGS and lost my flexibility and descended into depression over the 7 years. 4 months ago I had a mental breakdown and was fired from work. I rejoined kyo started working out 8 weeks ago and I've lost 12 KGS and I feel amazing. The uplift from going back and doing something I loved was almost over night its like I'm a whole new person.

BTW typing on mobile so sorry for shitty grammar and all that

>>2320270
>changing the start times of schools so students all over the USA aren't chronically sleep deprived
Wait they do that in america? Man I wish they did that in europe, I used to go to sleep at 3 in the morning and had school at 8, needles to say I slept through half of it and felt like shit

>>2321802
That's a nice kintsukuroi story.

>>2322301
>Wait they do that in america?
A few years ago while I was still in the loop, it was being discussed, I don't know if anything's been implemented. I've kind of been living under a rock for a while.

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I think I could probs beat you all up

>>2322739
Are you a rabbit. If yes, did you ever do any acting in Monty Python movies?

>>2321961
if you're in D.C. i would recommend the great river taoist center. scott rodell is a great instructor that does a shit ton of research and cuts the bullshit. it's difficult to tell the quality of instruction from the site you posted, but it wouldn't hurt to sit in on a class and see for yourself.

>>2321645
Thanks for the image. It is pretty usefull.

>>2322739
But do you think you can beat yourself up?

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>>2323420
I do every day

>>2321674
What school?

>>2323635
USF

>>2321674
>>2323865
Man fuck them if they are not willing to teach wrestling to newbies, go join a proper martial art that isn't so focused on winning tourneys. People who wont/don't teach newbies can't teach at all.

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>>2321674
Shoot up the school.

>>2322348
Thank you

Do you practice a martial art of some kind?

>>2324001
lol im maek mine own martial art cuz i so smaret

I'm finally going to get back into karate after a few years out of it. Only problem is I'm inflexible as fuck (can just about touch my toes with straight legs, I'm 6'4"), and when I did karate like 6 years ago I could hardly reach high enough for a head kick.

I'm likely going to be starting karate in about 8 weeks, because the dojo is far enough away that I won't have transport before then. I'm normally doing a 4 day brosplit at the gym, should I work in some stretches in preparation for starting karate? How long should I be stretching for?

It's kyokushin karate which looks brutal and fun as fuck, but apparently has loads of head kicks, so I'm eager to get prepared for it.

>>2321802
I had to give up karate for a year because of a spinal operation, and I became depressed in that time (and still am, having never picked karate back up again). Never really gave that much thought, perhaps it's not just coincidence.

>>2324805
Just light stretches twice a day and intense stretching three times a week after a warm up you'll be ok.

Kyo is fun as fuck you'll love it

>>2324805
Just raise your knee high when kicking

>>2324819
Join up. be happy. Choose life.

>>2325491
My issue is that I can't get full extension on my leg when I raise it high enough

>>2325078
Yeah, just did a 20 minute stretch session before lifting today and I'll do the same next time

Question

What is the strongest punch or kick in martial arts?
I'm not asking about style vs style nonsense.
What kick and punch perfectly executed by a normal person would result in the most force?
I imagine punch would be hay maker but kick I'm not sure. Spining round house?

I'm considering starting BJJ.

I went to a free taster session and everyone was just too good there, it just put me off a little bit because I don't ever see myself getting to that level and it was a bit disheartening, even if I enjoyed the lesson. Should I just stick it out?

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>>2321443
I want to start doing kung-fu but the only group at my school is pretty small and informal. The guy who teaches it has been in competitions (I know him personally and he's p legit), but I don't think they're allowed to spar that much due to some problems with the administration.

That's kind of it as far as martial arts stuff on campus and the nearby area goes. Should I give it a shot or just not bother?

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>>2325671
look no further than goju

the reverse punch is the strongest punch because it optimizes your muscles so every part of your body enganges and aligns your bones perfectly so there is no weak spot in the frame. A properly done reverse punch will carry the most force

the front kick and back kick work similarly, especially the back kick because it fully engages your ass when done properly. Most people back kick improperly and have their foot at an angle and kick from the hip. A proper back kick has your foot at 12 and 6 and comes straight down the center. What is the reason this is the strongest kick? because this is the direction your legs are built to move in, when you run or walk or jump or step, it's the motion of the back kick, fully optimized muscles.
for regular people however it will be the front kick because doing a back kick takes a lot of practice and as I said most people don't do it properly, so the front kick is powerful for similar reasons

>>2325671
>Question
There should be a ":" after that.

Your Gong-Fu is only as good as your mind.

>>2325744
>I don't ever see myself getting to that level
the short answer is you wont, the guys that beat you up today will beat you up forever as long as they keep practicing because every day you get better so do they. I started a year ago, and managed to close the gap from absolutely unable to touch them, to, I can almost kinda touch them if they aren't paying attention

but when a new guy like yourself comes in I can run a train on him and will get tap after tap after tap without even trying.

so if you like it, do it, but don't compare yourself to others. You need to be satisfied with your personal progression from where you started to where you are if you have any hope of making it.

>>2325671
Punches maybe have higher strength per surface, knuckle punches even more (but hand bones are more fragile so elbows could be better suited), but kicks have more total strength because legs are heavier.

The more momentum your body reaches and conveys the stronger it is, so I think rotating and jumping are going to give them a lot of strength, and going downwards takes advantage of gravity
Obvious downside is falling/missing
https://youtu.be/xr2StCdq4M0?t=9s
https://youtu.be/fq2TuUsTZOY?t=40m

>>2325671
>>2325962
>but kicks have more total strength because legs are heavier.
When you're using kinetic linking for a Boxing power straight punch, or a roundhouse kick, you're putting your body weight into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw
Some people draw conclusions from this video that may be false because of a failure to account for certain variables.

The weight of each practitioner, for example, is often failed to be accounted for by some people who watch this video.

>>2325671
>>2325962
>>2326056
This guy's hammerfist measured 0.8VC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo2q6_LNidk

The strike with the highest, the Knee, only got 06VC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfnGkV6qmTw

>>2325744
no shit you just started just keep going.

>>2325744
Every single (well, almost; a large majority) person who has trained for a little while will be better than you. Also, the more they train (generally speaking), they're going to be that much (depending on how you scale and measure these things) better than you are.

You're human; when you compare yourself to someone better than you, you're going to see that they're better than you at that, and when you look at yourself, you're going to see that you suck compared to them, and that's going to make you feel negative emotions.
It doesn't matter if it's BJJ, it doesn't matter if it's finger painting, it doesn't matter if it's board games.

It's a fact that with practice, skill is developed.

You should stick with it.

>I don't ever see myself getting to that level
Humans aren't always the most logical creatures. Humans are also emotional creatures. Emotions impair cognitive abilities; so, emotions make people stupid.
I'm going to tell you that because you were emotional, you got stupid, and therefore thought that you can't get to that level of skill under your circumstances.
That thought is stupid. It's a fact that with training, skill is developed.

The more dedicated you are, the more you learn about training, the more skill you will develop with training.

>>2326093
most these guys were trying their hardest to hit the damn thing as hard as possible. Losing potential inertial force in the process.
I liked this show for the novelty when it aired but it has some flaws.

>>2326189
>but it has some flaws.
I'm certainly not saying that it doesn't have some flaws.

A school nearby that I often pass on my way to/from work has a new amazing deal for those looking to see if the martial arts is right for them: Try a week of classes, attending any that you like, for 60 dollars. What a sweet catch, right? At that rate, with the high-cost schools in the area going for around 200 a month, you're paying more for that week-long trial period than you would, week for week, if you'd just gotten a membership!

I wonder if the school is failing so much that they're resorting to extreme methods like this to get money, or if they're doing so well that they figured they can't possibly take on any more students and are actively trying to drive away customers.

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Reminder: Wing Chun works!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQjdo9mDsTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZL1-dqQHE

>>2326312
They just suck at marketing

>>2326312
we give a week or 2 of free classes and if someone sticks around by the end of the month we add them to the next billing cycle

I need help finding an MMA gym in the Houston area. So many options, and different amounts of ratings. Its easier to pick which ones to definitely avoid than which one to go to.

>>2326056
Those practitioners don't look too good, just the fact that the taekwondo guy did better than those other two tells something, he's also twice as buff as them and drove into the target with his weight unlike the other two, and I've never seen a karate practitioner throw a punch like that

>>2326360
Reminder: no it doesn't
https://youtu.be/qAN-ZKQlucg


Also that kid in the first video has never boxed in his life

>>2326926
dammit! why did you reply to him. He's a shitposer that posts the same video in every thread

whelp, I just had to swallow a bitter red pill today
I've been doing kickboxing and stuff for about 15 years now, started as a middle schooler. Really just hit the pads and a bag mostly and sometimes do half speed soft contact sparring just to move around with someone.
I never wanted to be a fighter, I just think its a nice way to exercise.

today I got into a fight with an untrained literal nobody and he fed me a punch right down the middle, dazed me for a second, gave me a bloody nose. I shook it off and got my head straight pretty quick but he got a few licks in while I was getting my shit together.
Once I got it together I lit him up and he tried to run away but I stayed on him and kept hitting him in the back of the head and shit. He threw a desperate blind hay maker at me and that connected also which stunned me a little but I was overwhelming him at that point and he gave up and backed off

so I won the fight, I'm just disappointed he was able to hit me like that. I thought I was better than this but I guess I'm not as good at fighting as I thought I was. I didn't even see them coming. If he actually knew what he was doing or was a little stronger I would have been in some trouble.

>>2327851
If you never took sparring real seriously you can't expect your first serious figjt to go perfectly.

You still won so I don't see what the problem is.

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>>2327851
What were you expecting? To beat another guy and left the place completely untouched? To re-create some sort of action film scene, where you beat the bad guy with style?

All of this after taking sparring as light as possible, AKA: skipping the real MA and focusing on choreography sets?

Be real, anon. The guy at pic related competed at the Olympics and still got beaten like that in a bar fight.

>>2328189
>What were you expecting? To beat another guy and left the place completely untouched? To re-create some sort of action film scene, where you beat the bad guy with style?
all of this, yes
>>2328168
the problem is some mook hit me so I felt like a chump

>>2326926
The previously posted is concrete proof that it does in fact work.

>Also that kid in the first video has never boxed in his life
He's had a handful of striking lessons, all relatively long before that video was shot.

>>2327643
You don't know me. Ignorance and delusion often go hand in hand, friend.

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>>2327851
>I've been doing kickboxing and stuff for about 15 years now, started as a middle schooler. Really just hit the pads and a bag mostly and sometimes do half speed soft contact sparring just to move around with someone.
I'm not reading too much about practicing defense in your post.

>>2328189
>Be real, anon. The guy at pic related competed at the Olympics and still got beaten like that in a bar fight.
But he's an Olympic Judoka. Bar fights can provide a wide variety of disciplines and practices to go up against.
Haymaker-Fu-Jitsu is practiced by a large majority of bar fighters, and that's a striking art.
You shouldn't expect most Judoka to be experts at striking defense, and you shouldn't expect most Boxers to be experts at grappling defense.

>>2328243
I know the chinese are dishonest scammers, that's all I need to know to understand you motivations

>>2328266
>that's all I need to know to understand you motivations
Anon, my goal in life is to make the world a better place, and make myself a better person.

>>2328273
So kill yourself

>>2328459
>So kill yourself
Only if you do it first, baby ;D

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You know, in Parkour, it's generally accepted that from this height, you should roll.
This relates to achieving one's goal, but doing so while preserving one's body.
I draw some similarities between traceurs using different techniques for different landings, and fighters using different striking techniques for different areas of the body and different amounts of force.

>>2327851
I know the feeling bro I was mugged a few weeks ago st knife point I've got a few years boxing and judo exp. I froze I just gave him my stuff and didn't fight back. I feel like a coward

Point being... Its OK to feel weak sometimes when shit happens

>>2327851
Hadn't you trained for years, you'd surely had been at least knocked down or ko'ed from the first punch.

I had training Muay Thai for about 5 months but I'm consider about training Judo first (for throwing, sweeping, takedown and groundwork), then maybe Boxing (for punching, footwork and head wave) or Muay Thai Chaiya (One of Muay Boran style that focus more on defenses). When I have enough time maybe learn BJJ or Samurai/Ninja martial arts.

But I had thought something when people mention about street fighting. Is it true that most fighter are stronger than average person who don't have proper martial arts training?

>>2330022
Tldr: Yes

Judoka checking in. One of the emphasized parts of judo training is ukemi. Translated poorly as how to breakfall. You learn how to do footwork for strike evasion and takedown defense and how to properly land so that you don't get hurt when you do get taken down.
In a street fight a judoka would take less damage than an untrained person, because that is part of the training. It is also the reason lots of people wash out.

>>2330022
>Is it true that most fighter are stronger than average person who don't have proper martial arts training?

Really?

Ok, assuming you're serious. Yes, someone who trains in something is, usually, better than someone who doesn't. Someone who rides a bicycle for a couple miles every day will be faster (or more skilled) than someone who spends all day shitposting on a japanese animation imageboard.

However...

Going to a martial art place doesn't mean you're actually training martial arts. Read the mcdojo link on the OP, if the place is focused on choreographed movements with next to no sparring, then is unlikely you would be actually stronger than someone who never trains.

Also, don't dismiss the average joe on the street. Any angered monkey can still throw a punch, and with a bit of luck, it can and will hurt.

>>2330229

Sorry I mean physical stronger or better shaped.

Because despite training muay thai and gaining muscles, I always feel like that I'm less physical strong than average person (I'm only 164 cm tall and weigth 70 kg, still need to lose my fat belly...)


>>2330080

I think that I trained little bit of ukemi when trying out Aikido as part of school activity and one of my teacher was an aikidokan (his wrist locks was pain in the ass).

I think that I will try out judo at next year, need to master the basic of muay thai first.

>>2330229
>Someone who rides a bicycle for a couple miles every day will be faster (or more skilled)
An untrained cyclist that simply has stronger legs would be faster than a cyclist with good pedaling technique.

>>2330280
I work with an aikidoka and I got the chance to do some mat work with him. I'm a judoka, and I was pretty disappointed. Most of the ukemi was centered around the fact that I had to respond in a specific way to his techniques during my ukemi. This is in contrast to what I'm used to in judo where I'm trying as hard as I can to respond in a way that will prevent and leave room for my own throws when they are doing their techniques. I find the ukemi to be very different because judo ukemi is rarely what I would call compliant.

>>2330280
>>2330464
Well, there's a critical point in here: conditioning. By training, I was assuming the practiser is doing both, conditioning his body and perfecting his technique. Someone who's naturally stronger will beat someone who have a better technique, but someone who does serious training will also condition his body, lessening the gap. Someone who only practices techniques and no condition more likely is subscribed to a mcdojo,

Do you think there's a time and place for deep stances in combat?

>>2330542
>Someone who's naturally stronger will beat someone who have a better technique
Not exactly.

People who practice their technique through drills, drills that utilize timing and reaction speed, and sparring, will beat someone who is strong but doesn't have technique.

Really, it's just one's ability to utilize their knowledge and intelligence under the circumstances of combat.
Skill is just a certain combination of knowledge and intelligence, and the possible combinations are relatively vast.

>>2330659
For the utilization of anything in combat, it depends on the situation.

The situations of combat are as limited as life itself.

There's a time and place for anything in combat, as combat is everything.

>>2330542
>Someone who's naturally stronger will beat someone who have a better technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL-NP-wgj3U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXWPxQG_jdg

>>2331326
Gee thanks gandhi

Taekwondo vs Boxing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-ApgsJHqw

What do you guys think?

>>2331491
When there are endless possibilities, and limited knowledge, your ability to view is only as limited as your creativity.

>>2330479
As an Aikidoka who has been doing Judo for 7 years as well, I can only say that my ukemi is no worse than that of the average Judoka - the opposite would be true. I take breakfalls that make the average Judoka scratch their head without batting an eye. Then again, if, during must of my Aikido training, I didn't suicidally throw myself in the correct direction, I risked injuries because we didn't usually go easy on each other.

>>2331767
I think shane is a bad fighter that thinks hes an expert in things he really has no business talking about
he's a literal nobody

>>2332568
I'm asking what you guys think about the fight. How both are skilled and knowledgeable in Taekwondo. How in the first round, one could only kick, and the other could only punch. How the fighters adapted their fighting to the ruleset. How the fighters learned and adapted through combat. How the fighters changed what they did when the rules changed. And other stuff.

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>>2331767
>at that moment she knew she fucked up
Also lel at "real sparring"

>>2332175
Did you consider the possibility where I fuck your mom?

>>2333038
I don't really like thinking about my mother. She hit my with chopsticks when I was younger. She's also done many things that have, and will continue to negatively effect my life, probably for the rest of my life. The damage is permanent, I will always be less than I could've been, no matter how much better I make myself.

Kind of like a relatively severe knee injury.
That time spent recovering and not training will always be there, because once you've sent your time, you will never, ever get it back.
Your knee will never be as good as it once was, and it will never be the same. No matter how much you've improved in rehab, it will always be that much worse than it could've been.

>>2332854
The taekwando one behaves like all taekwando guys, only does suicidal actions that have a 5% probability of landing and a 50% probability of being thrown to the ground but they don't care since they are on nice comfy mattresses and the partner goes out of his way to not injure them.
There was no technicality in it, one just did boxing and the other just did taekwando, finding and exploiting situations where they were supposed to grapple to halt the "match"
The boxing guy clearly held back to not enrage the taekwando viewers, either that or he sucks shit

>>2333176
>finding and exploiting situations where they were supposed to grapple to halt the "match"
In Boxing and kickboxing, there's no grappling, though.

>>2333176
>The boxing guy clearly held back to not enrage the taekwando viewers, either that or he sucks shit
maybe it's because she was a grill

>>2333505
I know, I'm just saying they took advantage of awkward situations to not spar, the moment he got into her space he just stopped attacking

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I used to train in a full contact place for 3 years. Basically, as long as you didn't hurt the other guy in a serious, long term way, everything was allowed. It was a Chinese martial art place, but it was closer to kickboxing than wing chun stuff.

Anyway, point is, I got used to aim for the head, throw low kicks, switch guards, throw feints, and so on.

I moved to a new house, found a new place to train, and we're going to a tournament this month.

Problem is, the rules are light contact.

No punching to the head. (Fuck, there's a rule that states throwing feints aimed to the head can earn a warning, and repeated uses lead to a DQ)
No low kicks, only from the waist upward.
No knees or elbows.
And so on.

So, basically, I have to throw out most of what I learned in the other place. I can't throw low roundhouse kicks (which I used to follow with a high kick once the other guy lowered his guard), can't throw feints to the eyes, can't pull haymaker + elbow/backhand, etc.

During sparring, at times, I froze because I know I could do this or that, but can't because *Beeep* That's not allowed. So, technically, I keep "losing" despite being fully aware of a dozen opportunities where an uppercut would have finished the fight.

Any advice?

>Inb4: look for another place.

Yeah, I have been thinking the same, but until I find a decent place, I'll stick to this place.

>>2334653
>I have to throw out most of what I learned in the other place
Just consider it another thing clearly distinct from normal fights, if you started dancing you wouldn't think you have to throw out what you learned while fighting, think of it as a game

>>2334653
I see this all the time when jitz or wrasslin guys try to compete in judo because they can't grab the leg.
Stop concentrating on what you can't do and start paying attention to what you can do.
You still have options, they just aren't the same. Time to learn.

>>2335714
In a sense, you could say I dont want to learn. I mean, I want to improve myself and advance on the MA training and so on. I just don't want to develop bad practices and found myself acting like a TKD guy, and throwing punches and kicks to "safe areas", because da rulez, while dealing with some drunk asshole.

>>2334653
>throw low kicks, switch guards, throw feints, and so on.
Hey, I got used to some of those things, too!

What's up with all of these kickboxing places teaching all of these combinations, but not teaching enough about distancing, faking and feinting, and fighting on the outside, right?

>>2334653
>>2337250
Just go to the tournament and have fun, faggot.

I enjoy sparring with rulesets closer to UFC, because of the freedom, but I'll still enjoy boxing some niggas, wrestling, or kickboxing, because I find entertainment in combat.

>advice
Have fun.

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>>2337663

>>2325671

Spinning back, side or hook kick would be the kick for sure.

Haymaker would be the hardest punch but it's not combat viable. Straight? Overhand? Hook? Honestly could be any of these depending on what the individual prefers

>>2339682
our guy joe says turning side kick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4

So any reason for me to get some fancy ass uchikomi bands like those ones with cloth holds because "simulateagilol" or should I jew it up anduse an old bike tube (or anything else you'd want to mention)

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/mma-instructor-jailed-4-years-for-sexually-assaulting-2-teenage/3561744.html

Sup pedos. Too bad they don't practice death sentence on pedos there.

>>2340966
http://m.todayonline.com/singapore/online-petition-asking-harsher-punishment-against-mma-instructor-set

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What say you of my homemade makawara?

I dug like a meter an a half hole, put two stabilization beams in the bottom (as in wiki pic), and put a board between them. Then I nailed a rough carped on the board and secured it with a ducktape

About an hour of work. Did I do well?

>>2341329
depends how bendy

>>2341698
5-10 centimeters with 75% force, I guess?

The wood itself is pretty bendy. Is that bad?

>>2341740
well you want it to be bendy for shock absorption otherwise goodbye shoulders

>>2342063
Thanks, I should be safe

Appreciate the advice

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>>2341329
>/mag/-diy
I approve.

pic related is my striking bag.

Made of stacked buckets. Some wood was put into each bucket, but the weight is centered in the bottom.
The top bucket has paint cans in it.

The electrical wire runs along the sides of the bag.

Carpet is duct taped around the buckets, and pillows are duct taped to the bottom.

It's not a great bag, but it's also not that shitty.
I kind of just had some stuff laying around in my shed, and I felt like having some fun.
I threw the bag out eventually, though.

>>2341329
>>2342998
Also, notice the way I duct taped it. It's not just to secure the things onto there, no.
It shields the stuff from the elements, and it also provides structural integrity and support.

I don't exactly recall how I did it, but it took quite a bit of duct tape.

>>2342998
>>2342998

I have some leather, buckets and duct tape laying around

Thanks for the idea man. I need something to train my low kicks on, something like this would be great

I think I'll make it tomorrow and then post results as soon as I can

>>2343015
for real though..100 pound heavy bags are literally $50

>>2343461
It's not about having something to hit, it's about making something to hit.

>>2341329
Seems decent in terms of construction, but I don't think makiwaras are that useful.

>>2342998
Just cough up $100 or whatever for a bag, Jesus christ

Is this shit accurate? https://youtu.be/IvoMsQOI44M
Don't get me wrong, I'm not the type of dumbass to just try and learn shit without going to a gym, I'm just the kind of autist that likes watching things I know aren't straight up wrong.

>>2345411

This guy is clearly making shit up on the go to look knowledgeable

>>2345401
It's fun to make things, Anon.

>>2345411
You'd be a dumbass if you think the only way to learn things is at the gym.
You'd also be a dumbass if you thought that most people could train what they learn just as efficiently as sparring and drilling by mindlessly shadowboxing.

>>2345383
gotta rep those fundies bruh

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>>2342998
>striking bag.
Reminds me of pic related

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>>2346585

>>2345463
>This guy is clearly making shit up on the go to look knowledgeable
What makes you think that?

>>2345817
>You'd be a dumbass
You could also just be lacking knowledge on how to identify truth and facts, or just a trusting person.

Trust is like belief.

>>2345411
>Is this shit accurate?
It's so simple and basic, why are you even asking? Of course it's accurate. But I didn't sit through the whole video, just the first 8 1/2 minutes. What's in the first 8 and a half minutes is accurate.

>>2347987
How he goes out of his way to lengthily explain every possibility to look like a human encyclopedia to new people

>>2324805
Headkicks look great but you can deal a lot of damage with legkicks (gedan mawashi geri). Even a good fighter won't withstand a lot of legkicks (Source : A Kyokushin teacher told me so)

>>2348075
I don't think it's accurate based on the thumbnail. if you aren't wearing boxing gloves you don't /block/ straight punches, that's a retarded thing to even try
fists are too small and moving too fast to reliably be able to do that. head movement and parries are how you avoid punches

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how we fix japanese ju-jutsu?

>popularize competitive ju-jutsu with two variants, grappling ju-jutsu and combat ju-jutsu with strikes like combat sambo and throw out theorical mcdojo ju-jutsu
>combat ju-jutsu allows elbows, punches to the head, leg kicks, kness, etc. basically muay thai with gi and judo throws.
>in combat ju-jutsu throws have a lot of weight in judges score and have their own score in the fight, but you can't win via ippon or throw like judo or sambo, like MMA you win via submission, KO or judge decision (with throws having a lot of weight)
>you can't strike in the ground, for some reason normies really hates strikes in the ground, and this helps to differentiate to MMA
>unlike modern judo you can grab the leg for throws, single legs and and double legs almost don't score points thought
>leg locks allowed and encourage
>you have unlimited time to work in the ground, but if there's stalling both fighters needs to stand up
>in combat ju-jutsu there's no pins
>grappling ju-jutsu
>you can win via judo throws (needs more than 1 judo throw), submission and judo pin
>if there's too many stalling both fighters needs to stand up
>single and double legs score very little
>leg locks allowed and encourage
>basically judo + brazilian jiu-jitsu
>put both, combat and grappling ju-jutsu it in the olympics
>form links with modern MMA and help both, MMA and your own martial art and sport to growth like BJJ do and not hating MMA like the stupid IJF do

>>2348401
So all university professors are liars now, right? That's so stupid, you should kill yourself. Don't have children.

>>2348593
>you don't /block/ straight punches
That's one of the most retarded things I've ever read in my life.

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How do I help remedy being a slow learner?
I've done a few Judo classes and can still barely do O Goshi against a non-resistant opponent. I really want to get good at this but I feel like I'm wasting everyone's time.

>>2349687
your reflexes aren't fast enough to block a flurry of punches. Parries and blocks are different things

>>2349815
Let's pretend that I know for a fact that this isn't b8.

Get a good night of sleep, every single night.
Your brain works best when you're well rested, so you learn and develop skill when you're well rested.
Go to bed and wake up at the same time every single day; having a regular pattern helps you get quality sleep. It can take a week of good nights of sleep to fully recover from one bad night of sleep, long term sleep deprivation may leave permanent brain damage.

Maintain a healthy diet. Everything psychological is biological; healthy body, healthy mind.

Make your life better.
Being emotional makes humans stupid, and if you're more stupid, you have a more difficult time learning.
By eliminating anger, sadness, negative emotions, you will have less distracting your focus and impairing you.

You need to learn about yourself, a lot about yourself, for various reasons.

Your brain works best, and therefore, you learn and develop skill best, at certain periods during your sleep-wake patterns.

Now, it depends on the person, and various other factors, but, generally speaking, you're brain works best closer to when you wake up, rather than closer to when you go to sleep.
You're a super genius during the day, and a completely mentally retarded idiot by night, as some could say.

Make sure to eat. No food, no energy for the brain, brain doesn't work as well.
If you eat too much, more blood is needed for your digestion, less blood for your brain, your brain doesn't work as well; I think, anyway.
1/2

>>2349815
>>2350045
Focus and have fun. The more focused you are on something, the easier it is to learn; it tells by focusing, it tells your brain that what you're perceiving is important.
By having fun, you're associating what you're learning with emotions, creating vaster neural connections.
Associate what you're learning with each other; associating memories with others helps strengthen memories.

People learn best via auditory, visual, or tactile, means; or some combination of the three.

You can probably find various resources on how to best learn via these means, but I'll briefly go over auditory.

If you learn best via auditory means, you could do some of the following.
Let's say you're learning a western Boxing combination drill.

>Orthodox vs Orthodox
>throw jab
>opponent slips to your right
>throw another jab while creating an angle to your left
>opponent counters with cross
>you slip right and counter with cross

To better memorize this, you could say to yourself, out loud even
>jab
>step jab
>slip cross
>jab
>step
>jab
>slip
>cross
You can say it in your voice, say it in your instructor's voice.
You could play back the sounds of the movements in your head, the sound your opponent makes when punching, the sound of the footsteps.
You could also associate the drill with a melody, and associate each movement with notes.

Also, make a habit of learning and developing skill efficiently.
Habits are hard to break, and good habits are worth keeping.
2/2

>>2349815
>How do I help remedy being a slow learner?
You know, a large majority of people are slow learners, because a large majority of people don't know how to learn.

>>2349167
>how we fix japanese ju-jutsu?
>>with throws having a lot of weight
That's a problem that needs fixing.

>>2350112
throws are the most powerful martial arts techniques
when people play judo they are doing controlled throws on mats with someone that knows how to fall
real life throwing is chucking a guy as hard as you can on to the sidewalk head first. could kill a nigga like that

>>2350155
Japan has a decent amount of judo deaths by the way. Some of them are too hardcore. Though at least some are from heart problems or dehydration because
>lol japan stronk, water break is for pussies

>>2350155
A ruleset should allow practitioners to win via a means that they chose, they shouldn't be constrained to fight a certain way to win the game.

>>2350155
t. Judoka

>>2350161
my coach recently had a heart attack on the mat during randori

>>2350221
I mean, even though I do judo too, he's probably right unless I'm forgetting something (barring weapons), at least if you were actually trying to hurt someone. I assume deaths in streetfights (where you're not trying to kill the guy and keep beating him after hes done) are usually from people's skulls hitting the pagement after getting knocked out.

>>2350269
every time I've seen someone end up in the hospital after a fight it isn't the knock out, its the hitting the ground after being knocked out. Saw a guy die once, got punched, fell back, hit his head on the curb

tore/strained an intercostal last night rolling. was bad last night but is fucking brutal today. not overly swollen or too sensitive to the touch so at least its not a rib break.

anyone had this kind of injury before? how many weeks were you out?

>>2350431
nope, but there's a new white belt that just started 2 weeks ago and last night I taught him heel hooks for trolling purposes. So there will be injuries happening soon I'm sure

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>>2349167
You're too young to have know this era:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITmDdJgI6Nw
link related

>>2350936
this is about a million times more visually interesting than MMA
why isn't this the gold standard?

What do you guys do for cardio?

>>2350999
Why would gi fighting be the gold standard for anything

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>>2351067
Parkour is great for cardio, and it's also a great full body exercise.
Might as well develop some skill while you're exercising, right?

>>2351067
Bjj

>>2326360
>vs boxing

That guy is literally the worst boxer I've ever seen. Seems completely untrained

>>2351067
Jumprope

sparring/shadowboxing/rounds on the bag

sprints

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>>2351191
>That guy is literally the worst boxer I've ever seen. Seems completely untrained

>>2351072
because the gi is an additional factor which makes the whole game much more complex

>>2351431
Ya, mma but less applicable and more dangerous, hope your full contact Japanese jiu jitsu works out

>>2351691
I think gi techniques are applicable in some situations just like no gi. no gi is important in case you end up surrounded by chads in the beach, but gi applications will work well in colder climates on people wearing sweatshirts and coats. Don't think "gi and no gi" think clothed and naked techniques

plus, pants are almost always a factor, it's good to know how to use grips on pants properly because you're just limiting your abilities by not grabbing them in a real fight

>>2349680
University professors don't stop for 2 minutes to explain how additions work to make time pass

I hate this board so fucking much

>>2351869
>I've never been to uni

>>2351869
>to make time pass
the point is education you retard

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So, does these punching techniques have a real use,or pretty much old memes?

I don't remember MMA matches where people were using this kind of strikes, looks like closed fist is the only technique most people trains.

>>2355765
Most of them are for kyusho (pressure points).
Also they were for normal built people, you're not gonna use pressure points against the kinds of people you meet in mma.
And also fingers are fragile so you might break them, makes more sense to use the padded portion of the hand, gloveless you will see a lot more open hands

>>2355765
A lot of those are against MMA rules.

>>2355948
>fingers are fragile so you might break them
yes, you need to take time to condition the fingers to be a reliable striking surface, once they are all thick callused and calcified they will work well. for me I would rather keep my full dexterity so I'm not doing finger strikes unless its to the eyes or something
>>2355765
I open hand strike all day, punching someone in the head is dumb. The critical damage is done by the brain bouncing inside the skull, and your impact isn't going to be less because your hand was open instead of balled up.
I ridge hand all day, hooks are a dumb punch in real life, the stiff ridge is much more powerful and more importantly can flow unlike the hook which torques and chambers everything

>>2355765
Ridgehand will break your thumb and I don't see why you would backfist instead of hammerfist.

>>2356750
>I don't see why you would backfist instead of hammerfist.
wut

>>2356750
>Ridgehand will break your thumb
If you're an unconditioned pussy

>>2356750
>expecting tmautists to be good at anything

>>2355948
I don't know. The bottom centre and right (the "tiger claw" ones) are pretty effective as long as you hit with the bottom of the palm rather than "slapping" with the fingers; backhand is also good, but for some reason I always see people hitting with the closed fist rather than open palm.

I have seen people using something similar to ridgehand in combat, but it looks like closed fist still is the dominant mentality,

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i'm thinking in starting muay thai, i'm training to be a mma fighter and right now i'm a wrestler, and i'm between mauy thai and boxing to do in my free time, i think muay thai could be better to me than pure boxing, but with boxing usually you learn a lot of shit aside of punching, foot movement, head movement, the only "pure kickboxing" gym in my zone is pure shit and i'm not interested in that, so my options are muay thai and boxing, what should i do?


the gym i'm interested have good reputation, and the boxing one too.

>>2356851
ur a fagit

>>2356892
Again I think the padded side and the closed fist itself are way more solid so you can use maximum strength

>>2355765
each applies the force that you deliver differently, and depending the on target they can be used to hook, rake or gouge.

>>2356750
>ridgehand
>hitting with your thumb
you hit with the side of the hand

>>2357110
>I couldn't cut it in boxing or muay thai better learn nonsense
Ur silly

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>tfw bjj tournament is over so i can go back to bulking

>>2357063
Both.

>>2350155
>play judo

THIS SHIT PISSES ME OFF TO NO END YOU DON'T FUCKING PLAY NON-TEAM SPORTS. YOU DON'T PLAY RUNNING, YOU RUN. YOU DON'T PLAY SWIMMING YOU SWIM, YOU DON'T PLAY WRESTLING YOU WRESTLE. YOU DON'T PLAY FENCING YOU FENCE. YOU DON'T PLAY BOXING YOU BOX.

I HEAR OTHER JUDOKA FUCKING SAY THIS ALL THE TIME AND IT NEEDS TO STOP

that's the end of my autistic rant.

>>2357766
A guy named Jigaro Kano was insistent on calling judo a sport, and that sports should be played, and so people should say that they 'play judo.'
Some judoka think that he is a big deal, so they keep his tradition. You should tell everyone you meet that he was a dumbass and see if you can change the verb people use.

What kind of injuries are you likely to pick up doing BJJ? I'm thinking of checking out a local place but I've had minor injuries over the years from various different activities and I'm not looking to add any serious ones to the pile

>>2357820

Wait... I thought it was opposite, I had never trained judo before but I had read somewhere that Jigaro Kano don't planned to let judo become pure sport, but more as self improvement for your daily life.

>>2357766
i say that i play bjj because it comes off as more laidback

>>2357245
>needing gloves and hand wraps to protect your delicate hands when striking

>>2358125
Kano's ultimate goal was self improvement, but he the path to get there is kata, randori and shiai. If you read the books by him, you come to realize that randori was his primary focus, but that the technique couldn't be properly tested without shiai. And rather than having shiai that could cause grave harm, he believed that you could battle test within sport without injury.

>>2357936
all of them, and not because you did something wrong, but because someone else did something wrong to you
things I've seen
>drop soeinage without any warning
>spikes guy before he can tuck
>goodbye neck

>rolled over for a sweep
>foot is caught under them
>goodbye ankle

>botched take down from behind
>trips and sits on guys leg as he falls
>goodbye knee

>some clusterfuck of a takedown
>guys arm gets caught in the other ones gi in a way I'm still not clear about what happened and he kimoras himself
>goodbye shoulder

the ground itself is relatively safe because you can tap if you are feeling uncomfortable about a position. You are most likely to be hurt in the transition from standing to ground because bjj guys are mooks on the feet and don't know how to safely throw their partners

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Question:

Why do the female fighters do more clinch fighting, and why are the male fighters more likely to shoot for legs and take clinches to the fence?

Is the reason physiological, or that women's wrestling isn't as big as men's, or are they just all evolving in the footsteps of rhonda?

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>>2357820
>A guy named Jigaro Kano was insistent on calling judo a sport.
First, No he didn't, he meant it to be a "Dô", a way of life. Physical activity was part of this to help you soul, mind and spirit to grow upright.
Second, The notion of sport you have and the one they had in the XIXth century are totally different. Nowdays sport do not tolerate death the way it was by that time.
Do you don't play judo, you do it, you practice it, you live it.
>Some judoka think that he is a big deal.
He was a big deal, because he was not only physically strong, and technically sharp, he was also, extremely smart, articulate, socially and politically well connected and ironwilled. You don't survive a world war and get your teaching despite your death to go round the world.
>>2357936
>What kind of injuries are you likely to pick up doing BJJ.
short term, some bruises.
Warm up correctly, do core work and flexibility work for the spine, neck, hips and shoulders. Buy: wreslting helmet - mouth guard - kneepads - tape - 2 pairs of flip flop. Always shower within 60min after training, preferably immediatly after.
You should then be fine.

>>2358510
>Buy: wrestling helmet
So BJJ is a good way to fuck up my ears if I don't wear one?

>>2357245
>>2358226
Might even need some lotion later in case those hand wraps are a little too rough.

>>2356790
Hammerfist is like the knifehand but with a fist.
>>2356792
Go ahead and break your thumb, white belt.
>>2357240
Your thumb is on the side of your hand. It's not hard to accidentally hit with your thumb and hurt your thumb.

>>2357245
That wasn't me. I don't know what tmautists means.

>>2359035
>your thumb is on the side of your hand
that's why with a ridge hand you tuck your thumb in as tight as possible and angle your hand so you strike with the large bone at the base of the hand.

>>2359035
I'm sitting here ridge handing stuff with my thumb in all different positions and I can't even find one that causes discomfort

>>2359062
Are you knocking that stuff out?

>>2359109
I was hitting mitts the other night, ridge handed and threw out the shoulder of the guy holding the pad. he had to put an ice pack on it and go home

>>2359138
What about without the pad?

>>2359167
I've never had to hit someone in the head full force with one before, but I connect with them all day while practicing, even with big puffy gloves on

>>2349167
>single and double legs score very little
Why would an effective double leg slam that puts me in side control score less than a shitty roll through ogoshi where I end up getting reversed to my back?

>>2359187
You don't wear big puffy gloves in a real fight.

>>2359219
exactly, so it will be even easier to hit people with

>>2359253
You gotta give him props for actually getting back up after that beat down and trying to fight. He did better than Phil

>>2359253
Hicks are so bad at fighting

>>2358526
Yes. Look up cauliflower ear

>>2356750
Bill wallace uses backfists, also you can use them to take advantage of the rotation of a rotating kick

>>2358508
Either they're just weaker or they're uncomfortable with their boobs

>>2358552
>using karate meme punches

>>2359611
that really only happens if you neglect your injuries, just drain it if it happens and you're fine. guys with those gross ass tumors popping out the side of their heads are doing that on purpose because they think it makes them look tough

>>2359400
>You gotta give him props for actually getting back up after that beat down and trying to fight.
this

>>2360908
>just drain it if it happens and you're fine.
You can risk infection and open up a whole new door of complications and problems, or you could just wear a helmet.

>>2321443
anyone here studying/training mexican judo?

>>2361616
Of course. But for the purposes of this thread we are calling it concealed carry.

>>2361238
holy kek that was funny

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXer_cR5I_w

>>2362075
kek

>>2359253
>00:13
>that expert headmovement

>>2346374
Makiwaras aren't good for repping in my opinion.

Here's a good article about it: http://wayback.archive.org/web/20140225215911/http://www.24fightingchickens.com/2005/09/29/all-about-makiwara/

The tl;dr of it is that a makiwara is like a reverse heavy bag. Heavy bags resist at first and then yield whereas makiwaras will provide more resistance the harder you hit them.

Is it cool if I post here if I was crippled by a drunk driver, and lost any chance of ever competing again after 5 years of training? Absolutely love the sport, but don't know anything about these threads.

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>>2358508
>Is the reason physiological, or that women's wrestling isn't as big as men's, or are they just all evolving in the footsteps of rhonda?
I think it's a bit of all of them.

The judo/wrestling coach that pops in here every now and then wrote this when I asked him about it:

"i have a couple of theories and speculation but nothing solid

you see wrestling shots so big in the men's division since so many american fighters have some exposure of to folk style and bjj, styles that shot from afar.

I think the women division wasn't as developed and you dont see a lot of women in folk style or with heavy wrestling grapplings HOWEVER Ronda Rousey comes in and shows how strong a clinch game is. I find it interesting that you find more judo and muay thai clinch work in the women's division then you do in the men. I mean more varied clinch work. JJ's lets title defense was a snoozer but the way she works her muay thai clinch and gripping is more technically advance then a lot of men's muay thai clinch, they lack power but its neat to see set ups you don't see often unless its watching stadium matches in thailand..

Same could be said with Ronda's judo clinch work, you see judo all the time in the men's division but you don't see the technical quality like in Ronda (which makes sense since she's a olympian)

but on the flip slide like you observed the technical wrestling, shooting and riding in women's is way below the level of men's.

i guess my point is it depends on the weight division and the background on the top fighters that dictates trends in how the lower level fighters will supplement their skills.Have someone with really good boxing, you see a lot of people in the divsiion supplementing, assimilating those skills into their tool box.

Same with the judo and mt in WMMA and the wrestling in men's MMA. "

>>2364000
Depends, Rei or Asuka?

>>2364011
"professional" women fighters

bitch doesn't even know how to escape an omoplata. she was already half way out, she just needed to grab her own wrist and sit through into side control. she had done the hard part already by getting upright

>>2365310
>bitch doesn't even know how to escape an omoplata.
Are you sure? A lot of people know a lot of things, but when they have the stressors and factors of fighting in a ring in front of an audience in play, it becomes more difficult to recall memories.

>>2364000
This is a martial arts general, is it not?

>>2364000
>and lost any chance of ever competing again after 5 years of training?
How bad is it?

Who knows, with the development of VR, maybe there will be competitions in the future that are "virtually" safe.

Medical science, and technology, are always developing; maybe there's a chance that something could happen in your lifetime.

>>2363985
sounds to me like a good thing. when you get stronger you want to increase your resistance

>>2366306
But the problem is that if you're throwing a really strong punch, the makiwara will resist so much you won't be able to hit it more than a few times.

>>2367094
maybe you aren't familiar with japanese martial arts enough.
That's when you break through and go further beyond!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DyHxC6sV6g

>find a dojo near me on google maps that looks pretty decent
>it's a half hour bike ride each way

>>2367679
so like...6 miles?

>>2367679
>>2367752
Not so bad.

>>2367094
That's probably why you're not supposed to drive in with your body, you're gonna break your damn shoulder

If you look at this guy he even pushes back with the front leg at the last moment

https://youtu.be/KqklPCph-Bw?t=1m57s

When he steps in he explains that the ankles have to do the work and you can see he's at the same distance as earlier

>>2358226
>get rejected by crush
>sad and pissed
>go to the gym to work it off
>decide to use punchbag for the first time in a while
>no gloves
>end up ripping the skin off of my knuckles and leaving blood all over the bag

>>>/fit/40711350
>>>/fit/40711350
>>>/fit/40711350

>>2361238

holy shit, that must has dislocated his shoulder or even broke it.

I've had enough guys, I've been too loyal to my karate teacher I think. I've gone as far as he can take me, but I don't have a black belt yet, in fact I don't even have a purple belt yet despite being at this for 11 years

he's one of those guys that sees a black belt as a master of the craft and not someone with good enough fundamentals

What do, /mag/?

I haven't had lots of good sparring before getting in touch with the guys at the uni I'm at now. It's either been YMCA McDojo stuff with "NEVER strike with full force" schpiel, or the rare occasion where I get to SPAR with a boxer but they're always half my size.

I'm worried that I look like THAT GUY who tries to prove himself in sparring, but I'm really just trying to land some punches on these speedy fuckers. If I'm going below 50%, I just can't get anything in.

>>2328609
considering you don't train knife defense, I'd say you did perfectly well for yourself. Fuck, even if you WERE trained, what have you got that's worth risking your life?

>>2333153
hey anon, when I was young I severed my ACL because of my shitty abusive family. Are we twins?

>>2369945
Here they make you go up a belt every year regardless of performance, unless you're particularly awful
What style?
Also yeah there comes a point where he can only teach you gimmicks

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>>2369945
>My karate instructor is not running a McDojo

I'm not seeing the problem anon. Become better, master the craft so that he thinks you're worth a black belt

>>2370048
I hate those fags who come into a pacific environment where everyone is trying not to hurt the other guy and they start hammering down people, find a suitable place or play along

>>2370414
goju of course, is there any other worthwhile doing?
>>2370436
its the conditioning man, he's just trying to break me at this point. push ups on my knuckles in the parking lot with him standing on my back, pull ups with him gut punching me on every rep, beating my shins and forearms with a cane, punching my ribs, kicking my thighs, and endless calisthenics

he said if you want to just learn to fight, that's fine, but if you want to go for rank "you will think I'm crazy and want to quit" he was right

>>2371265
>goju of course, is there any other worthwhile doing?
kek
and there's the punchline

>>2371265
>all that training
>for being a worse fighter than a boxer
Epic

>>2371582
Karate is Kickboxing with leg kicks included. Not only is Karate Kickboxing with leg kicks, but it's a well rounded striking art. Besides being technically superior to Kickboxers, Boxers, and Sanda/Sanshou practitioners in technical striking versatility, Karateka are conditioned to be true fighters. Hands, elbows, shins, full body conditioning. The conditioning makes Muay Thai practitioners look like pussy baby bitches.
Goju Karate is not only a striking art, but an art of grappling.

Goju Karateka are not only superior strikers, but they are also MMA capable, unlike Judoka, Wrestlers, BJJers, Boxers, Kickboxers, Muay Thaiers, and Sanda/Sanshouers

Boxers, Kickboxers, Judoka, BJJers, Wrestlers > Muay Thaiers, Sanda/Sanshouers > Cross Trainers > MMAers, Goju Karateka

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>>2371666
>he took the pill

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>>2371720
read the rules

>>2371666
I still don't know if you're unironic or not

>>2371582
I am a great fighter! I could make a title run in the UFC if I really wanted to train full time, but honestly professional fighting is a dumb idea
the amount you get paid compared to the amount of time you put in is peanuts, you are better off with a regular job and training on the weekends for fun

see, other fighters need to learn striking and grappling separately, and then modify them to work together. The advantage of goju is the striking and grappling were developed to work together from the get go, similar to the muay thai use of the clinch but it is taken further with the inclusion of throws, joint locks, and ground techniques. This eliminates the need for the bunkai most fighters must undertake and retroactively making your style fit together into something unified

>>2371265
Man you guys don't even have 11 katas, what's there to evaluate, your bodybuilding that won't defend you from head punches?

>>2372066
if my entire body can take hits and my head is the only thing that must be actively defended, suddenly protecting it becomes much easier

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>>2371935
>I could make a title run in the UFC if I really wanted to train full time

>>2372295
>I've only fought in karate tournaments but I'd win against actual martial artists
Cute

>>2372328
why do you say and think such rude things. You are very ignorant to think fighting in an MMA match actually increases your fighting ability. The 15 minutes you spend doing that is nothing compared to the thousands of hours a year you would spend training. It's just sparring with higher stakes

Hey guys. Is parkour martial arts?

>>2372405
No but it's somewhat related to fights

>>2372405
no
>>2368937

Has anyone dealt with shoulder injuries? I've been wrestling and every time I get in on a single leg and the guy I'm wrestling sprawls, my shoulder slides out of place and it's the most painful fucking thing. It'll pop back in after a few seconds but it feels weak and shitty and I can't really manage to do much with it. It's fucked up my season and I don't want to have to give up my sport. I've been in and out of physical therapy and it hasn't fixed it all the way.

>>2372459
My father has a dislocated shoulder, it's pretty shitty, I remember when I was a kid he raised his hand as if to slap me and his shoulder got dislocated

The more it happens the easier it happens as the muscle supposed to keep the shoulder locked in gets deformed

Couldn't imagine him doing any sport

>>2372405

Don't let the ignorant and delusional idiots tell you otherwise.

Parkour is, and will always be a martial art.

>>2372618
then where is the martial aspect of it?

>>2372619
>>2372623
>>2372626
>>2372630
>>2372633
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>>2372644
please move to the thread that is actually about parkour
>>2368937

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>>2372648
No. The faggots saying Parkour isn't a martial art started this shitstorm.

History repeats itself, and the ignorant and delusional will act based on their ignorance and delusion, and hurt themselves, and those around them, because they failed to learn and think.

They encourage separation, segregation, instead of acceptance.

They are the KKK of martial arts.

Blacks, whites Asians, Mexicans, we all the same on the inside, despite some minor differences on the outside.

Parkour, Boxing, Judo, BJJ, Karate, Kickboxing, Taeekwondo, Aikido, they're all martial arts, despite their differences.

>>2372662
>doesn't answer the question
>goes full sperg again
having more threads against the constant mandrama is good. HEMA is a martial art, but they have their own thread.

>>2372471
I've known people who were able to return to their sport. I just wanted some advice from anyone on here who does martial arts.

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>>2372679
>>doesn't answer the question
>>goes full sperg again
This is for being a jackfuck.

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>post your bag gloves
-full grain
-double wrist strap
-aesthetic as fuck

>>2372619

seriously go fuck yourself you cunt faggot! we have one fucking thread on this board and you're shitting it up

you're god damn right I'm fucking mad

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>>2372775
Parkour is a martial art. It's the ignorant and delusion to blame for this. I didn't want to do this but I'm left with no choice.

>>2372775
im pretty sure theyre a wrastlefag trying to hit the image limit

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>>2372803
>im pretty sure theyre a wrastlefag trying to hit the image limit
That would be ignorance and delusion.

>>2372805
no, you're just posting images of parkour with no context and seemingly no real interest in the discipline.
for example. do you know what structure this >>2372782 is?

>>2372827
Some structure in France that's linked to Parkour's history. People who go to France for a kind of Parkour history ritual trip like to stop by there. David Belle probably did something there, and the Traceurs are following in his footsteps.

>>2372776
A non sport for pussies

>>2372803
it's exactly what he was doing, he pushed it above the bump limit and then stopped posting
and if you people aren't reporting him for it you have nobody to blame but yourselves if he keeps doing it

>>2372627
Ever watch part two of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure? Parkour is basically the irl equivalent of Joseph Joestar's TRUE martial art style: running away from the enemy in any way possible

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>>2372747
Imagine these, but they've got tiny (but ever-growing) holes all over the part that's hitting people, the "webbing" between the thumb and the hand is fucked, and the inside of the thumb in both gloves is shredded to shit

I bought "Treeko's scrotum" green because I wanted to look/feel like Little Mac when I was training...

>tfw bought them for half price off amazon because of the tiny holes

>>2372855
>I read the first half of a paragraph in the article I got this from

>>2357766
Not everyone speaks English and in a lot of other languages you play wrestling and play fencing.

You take the word play too negatively.

I've trying to get into chinese martial arts from a long time now. And recently a school just opened in my area.

If you had to decide between taijiquan and modern wushu wich will you choose?

>inb4 none

>>2374754
taijiquan, modern wushu seems like the definition of McDojo

>>2374754
taijiquan

>>2374781
I don't know about the McDojo part, the laoshi seems to know what she is teaching and I should have mentioned that it's the same person who is teaching both of them.

I made a discord https://discord.gg/VuRXk