Will there ever be heels that get legit heat again in the WWE? Closest since the Attitude Era was probably Michael Cole ffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tidqddcuifs
Only one
Jbl
>>2302982
Everybody shits on him, but I legit loved heel Cole
You'd have to do something really bad, like be the focal point of fans' frustration with WWE booking for two years straight.
Then you'd have to do something that put you way over the edge, like, retiring the most beloved character in the company.
>>2302982
>>2302982
Miz
>comes out at #30 to obvious boos
>eliminates undertaker to obvious boos
>taunts him like a heel
Tell me how this guy isn't supposed to be a heel to smarks. A lot of his shit is heel as fuck to smarky fans, but he maintains the face alliance to get that sweet merch money from children and pajeets who believe he actually beats up the bad guys because the show tells them so. win-win genuine heat from smarks and genuine pops from idiots
>>2303186
Reigns isn't even a particularly good seller of merch tho.
>>2303198
Yeah he is. He's second only to John Cena despite not having held the belt for since june last year and battling rusev in the midcard for months and now strowman.
>>2303200
>He's second only to John Cena
kek he's not even 2nd place in The Shield.
Sauce or GTFO
>>2303200
>He's second only to John Cena
Not true. Seth and New Day sell more merch than him.
>>2303214
WWE's merch sale figures for each wrestler aren't public but there's significant evidence to suggest that Reigns was no.2 for 2016.
Meltzer said that he was third in 2015. After that his merch sales went up throughout early and mid 2016.
Shopping searches on google trends suggests that he was matching cena in merch sales around WM32 time and was second only to Cena in the past year.
https://trends.google.co.uk/trends/explore?date=today%2012-m&gprop=froogle&q=%2Fm%2F0bzvkq,%2Fm%2F037s35,%2Fm%2F01ypx5,%2Fm%2F09d3n4,%2Fm%2F026df51
A marketability study showed that Roman Reigns was among the top 4 most marketable wrestlers including John Cena, Brock Lesnar and the Undertaker.
http://www.sescoops.com/news-on-roman-reigns-popularity-based-on-wwe-marketability-study/
Not counting tag teams, he's also got the most merch available on wwe shop after John Cena and he featured in 6 of the top ten most viewed wwe youtube videos of 2016
https://www.forbes.com/sites/blakeoestriecher/2017/02/23/roman-reigns-dominates-wwes-10-most-popular-youtube-videos-of-2016/#732651624e62
>>2303257
>Google trends
>Youtube views
kek
Sort WWEshop.com via Best Sellers
>"a marketability study"
Take a Marketing intro class dummy, if you ask the right questions you can make data suit any result you want.
>>2303276
>oh those are some nice well sourced arguments. I'll just say they don't count because I have no actual arguments
>if you ask the right questions you can make data suit any result you want.
>this independent study is pro-reigns conspiracy
The absolute state of smarks.
>>2303276
>Sort WWEshop.com via Best Sellers
All that needs to done. You don't NOBODY in crowds with Roman shirts. Besides the few plants in the front row that wear the shirts Vincent bought.
>>2303296
>seth is really outselling cena you guys!
how do you get worked this hard? You really think Nakamura on NXT is the 3rd biggest merch seller in wwe today? Do you really believe Cesaro at no. 4?
>>2303303
>1 item = all items
Romarks are so consistently fucking bad at math
>>2303303
>You really think Nakamura on NXT is the 3rd biggest merch seller in wwe today?
Yes! Definitely!
do you remember when wrestling was entertaining?
>>2303108
Same here, I thought I was the only one.
>>2303257
You wrestling fans are retarded
>Meltzer said that he was third in 2015. After that his merch sales went up throughout early and mid 2016.
That was because he was over in 2014
>Shopping searches on google trends suggests that he was matching cena in merch sales around WM32 time and was second only to Cena in the past year.
As someone in Marketing. Please stop using Google Trends. Or at least learn how to read graphs.
>Not counting tag teams, he's also got the most merch available on wwe shop after John Cena
Roman is the top guy decided by Vince, ofcourse he will get a lot of merch
>and he featured in 6 of the top ten most viewed wwe youtube videos of 2016
Okay kid, please stop using view numbers and google trends for everything. I always click Roman Reigns videos to keep reading hate comments and leaving some too and 60% of the people do exactly the same. He is polarizing, this is the exact same reason John Cena became popular. I only kept watching WWE 2011-2014 to see John Cena get booed, I used to skip the rest of the show
Secondly all of you need to sit back and enjoy the show instead of discussing numbers and who is a draw, none of you are part of the business for a reason. If it sucks then stop watching WWE and find something else to watch
>>2303108
>>2303609
Heel Cole was GOAT. He is really good at what he does, I never shit on him. The IWC are narrow minded and follow a hivemind
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnVFyhYqmVM
>>2303198
Wrong.
>>2303649
>if you search something on google it means you buy it instantly
>>2303186
>Turns heel
>Immediately will start getting cheers from smarks in crowd
That's why - smarks just love being contrarians. Smarks didn't have the same vocal part of the crowd they did in the 90s.
Michael Cole is basically the last guy to get hate from marks and smarks alike.
He's the ultimate heel.
>>2302982
>rock goes corporate
>becomes a GOAT heel
>Austin goes corporate
>kills the business
Damn... really makes me think...
>>2303276
>Sort WWEshop.com via Best Sellers
You do realize that isnt accurate, right? You get completely different results when you go to Best Selling in each section...
http://shop.wwe.com/t-shirts/
http://shop.wwe.com/shop-all/
http://shop.wwe.com/new/
>>2303798
Explains why Hogan was cheered in his NWO run huh
>>2303651
>>2303804
>outlaw
Next you'll give an ecw example. Try again, but with wwf/e
>>2303811
At that time WCW was beating WWF in ratings.
>>2303611
The fact of the matter is without Michael Cole, Daniel Bryan doesn't get over at all.
Michael Cole made Daniel Bryan who he was today.
>>2302994
GOAT
>>2302982
>Attitude era
>heel Michael Cole
pick one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI7_W5FVuyY
>>2302982
Cole has almost always had legit heat, even as a face because he's a cock sucker
>>2303811
>WCW
>outlaw
>>2303649
Poor Ziggler
>>2305778
First day here huh?
Go back
>>2302994
literally who?
>>2304641
toplel
>>2305854
Seek sunlight
>>2302994
go away heat =/= heat
>>2304633
Anon, he's saying after the attitude era, not during it.
Miz gets legit heat. So does alexa. Vickie got extreme heat if you remember that
>>2303303
female marks love cesaro ripping off his pants
>>2303108
Cole Mine was fucking based. Such a GOAT heel he literally worked Lawler's heart into a shoot.
>>2303286
>google trends
>youtube views
"""""""well sourced"""""""""", WWE's best sellers THEMSELVES have no roman shirts, you look at the crowd and NO ONE is in roman shirts, you look at the stands at shows and fuck all people buy roman's merch.
Google and youtube trends mean nothing, just because you're talked about and watched a lot doesn't mean people buy your shit, you'd know that if you knew anything about business.
>>2303798
>who is the 3 biggest stars in wrestling history who all turned heel in the late 90s only to become face again due to the crowd cheering them