RAW RATINGS PLUMMET AGAIN

>>1926493
It's javestty
His name is javestty

>>1926493
Holy shit... Roman touches the main event and the ratings just die.

>>1926493
poor the guy.

this time is not even armenian jannettys fault

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>>1926493
>the crap Goldberg open
>final hour usually has crap leading up to main event

>>1926493
Seth/KO and Sasha/Charlotte are the main programs.
I lump more blame on them.

>>1926493
Anyone whos at home watching tv that isnt spooky movies or halloween specials on halloween night instead of partying are faggots.

>>1926493
>owenetty

TV ratings are a really shitty inaccurate system and people should just stop looking at them

This is what happens when women main event a PPV

>>1926537
Hi Paul!!!

>>1926537
t. Seth Rollins

Let's be honest, nobody can save wwe now

It's only natural.
The hiac main event and cuck Foley constantly trying to push women's "wrestling" so hard were the final nails in the coffin.
Either they change things up and get some good matches going again (not reigns or women) and give the title belt to someone more deserving, or they fall apart

>Hour 1
Goldberg, Rusev, Heyman
Braun Strowman and a bunch of jobbers

>Hour 2
Mick Foley, Roman, Fatty, JeriGOAT
Halloween-themed tag team match
Flippyshit
Charlotte promo

>Hour 3
More flippyshit
Cesaro and Sheamus
Roman and JeriGOAT

put the fucking belt on roman, he can save this shitshow

>>1926548
>let's put a shit belt on Roman
Based Big Bull Dog should betray Team Raw and go to Smackdown.

It was Halloween. Raw's target audience is children (out trick or treating), the mentally handicapped (playing dress up with their caregivers), and angry loaners (killing them selves)

>>1926548
>>1926550
Jesus no, don't ruin Smackdown too.

Let Rawman and the wymen sink

>People don't care about Boreman or Y2Fat
WHAT A SURPRISE

>>1926574
the vast majority of wwe fans are adult males

There is no point in watching a roman segment or match.

He isnt funny
He isnt badass
He isnt a great wrestler
He isnt super strong

Literally why would you waste time on him

>JeriGOAT
Have sex Jerichetty never drew a dime and never will, casuals think Wrestling is gay af and some 50 yr old dude w/ a dad bod thats wearing a scarf and carries a list only proves them right.

>Romanetty and Jewberg are killing the ratings
KEK

>>1926648
>SEETHING

>>1926537
>another redditor

JUST

is /asp/ dead?

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>For the night, Raw finished 9th on cable with the Vikings vs. Bears NFL game on ESPN finishing No. 1 with 10.48 million viewers. It fell behind the late night SportsCenter, the O'Reilly Factor (4.24 million viewers), the Kelly File (3.69 million), On the Record (3.03 milion), Hannity (3.44 million), Bret Baier (3.38 million), and The Five (3.05 million). The majority of those shows are on Fox News Channel.
LIBERALS BTFO LMAO

>>1926710
Takes a redditor to know a redditor.

>>1926493
Yes. Despite not being advertised at all, Reigns is to blame for the loss in viewers and not the overweight slob that smarks love so much.

>>1926749
JeriGOAT has been apart of segments purely centered around himself that were rated highly.

Roman Reigns has been apart of nothing but record lows.

Really fires up the old neurons.

>>1926776
I think he meant KO.

>>1926776
So we're at the point where smarks make shit up

BBDWTS

>>1926537

>t. low-test wewist

>>1926776
>JeriGOAT has been apart of segments purely centered around himself that were rated highly.
Not even who I'm talking about. But since you've stated it, who's rated it so highly? Where are these ratings? From your ass? Because ratings can only be up, down or exactly the same as last week which is highly improbable. Anything else is called an opinion.

Please stop making things up to suit your narrative.

>>1926783
Take the highest rated segment Jericho has been in that purely centered around himself, then compare it the highest rated segment Reigns has been in period.

Jericho is more well known and a bigger draw than any shieldetty.

>>1926660

There is no such thing as casual fans of wrestling. It's a niche product. But if someone who doesn't watch it now happened to stop on USA, Jericho would be the only person on the show they would likely recognize.

>>1926792
Jericho could barely outdraw Roman even when John Cena and Undertaker are featured: https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAM%253D&q=Chris+Jericho
Yet Roman does it consistently on his own: https://www.youtube.com/results?sp=CAM%253D&q=Roman+Reigns

Unless of course we're doing the selective bias most smarks choose to do by only counting episodes if the episode number is odd and only 30% of the first segment features promos but the last segment features 90% Roman then if Britain had a fall in the pound would that make them more depressed to watch RAW again, but then because American football meaning that's why viewership was down for our favourites, meaning that the draw that no draw could draw meaning Reigns isn't a draw and everyone we conveniently like for that week is?

>Smark mental gymnastics that no-one can comprehend again

>>1926637
Yes I said angry loners and mentally handicapped people

>>1926823

>youtube views are equal to tv ratings, merch and gate receipts

>>1926831
You haven't posted any of that

>>1926831
Well when you post no evidence of said ratings for us to see, what else is going to be used? Social media. Something in which WWE are very fond of.

>>1926789
Alright bear with me here you ABSOLUTELY SEETHING ramenetty mark

Jericho, as in, Chris Jericho one of the most well known wrestlers world wide that's currently working for WWE (that wrestling company you watch) has been in segments centered around himself that has had much more people watching and has been part of house shows he was main eventing that had much more people in attendance, than Ramen EVER has. He's also historically sold MORE merch than Ramen.

So, by literally every metric imaginable, Jericho has drawn MORE dimes than Ramen EVER has. Chris Jericho is literally the ONLY person outside of oldberg and heyman that literally ANY casual would know about on the show last night.

>>1926823
>old segment uploaded just for some people to rewatch something that happened years ago
>uploading something that was released the other night get more views

Really fire up those brain cells m8, if Jericho's debut was uploaded to the Internet after it had happened and the Internet was as popular as it is now Jericho would've literally blown Ramen the fuck out.

>talks about selective data
>selects the same exact type of data with fucking youtube views

The absolute state of (you) m8.

>>1926846
YOUR. OPINION. IS. IRRELEVANT. WITHOUT. PROOF.

You've spent so long on the internet that you think normal people know any sort of wrestler. They absolutely don't. You're so out-of-touch. Reigns is a regular on local radio stations (Ones people actually listen to), he goes on popular American chat shows such as Conan and what not. People know of Reigns because he's good looking and he does a shit load of networking. No-one outside of wrestling knows who Jericho is.

>ABSOLUTELY SEETHING
Because you're so cool as a cucumber with your essay.

>talks about selective data
>selects the same exact type of data with fucking youtube views

Or more so:
>Claims an opinion to be fact
>Provides no data to back up alleged fact
>Gets angry when someone at least tries to provide some sort of data

3 hours is just too long.

Sounds like they get a good pay packet for it regardless of ratings tho

>>1926823
>YouTube views
>Drawing
>In any sense of the word
The absolute fucking state of Roman apologists holy shit

>>1926846
>Jericho
>merch

18+
You're done.

Did they advertise anywhere that Goldberg was going to open the show? If I knew that I'd have watched live instead of catching highlights

>>1926866
Yeah they did last week on raw

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>>1926859
Ask a random person to name a wrestler and they'll say Cena, Hogan or The Rock.

Hogan still working the marks.

>>1926862
YouTube views account for what people want to see on-demand.

People talk a lot about the viewership going down at certain parts and guessing why people stopped watching, yet Reigns is consistently the most watched on YouTube. It's not good for seeing who's a draw, but it's an excellent indicator of what the fans want to watch. 10,000 views on a Fandango match? People don't want to see Fandango. 1,000,000 views on a Dean Ambrose match? People want to see Dean Ambrose.

>>1926859
No one in the mainstream knows who Roman Reigns is, nwowolfpactv. If they did, all of his talk show appearances would draw in more viewers. Sheamus was a regular on talk shows and still nobody knew him because appearing on shows doesn't fucling mean anything. Reigns is rarely in the news. Hollywood gossip rags don't care about him. They know Rock, Cena, Lesnar, that's it. Fans who watched when it drew know and remember Jericho. He's been seen by more people than Roman will ever be seen by because he was on TV when 9 million people were watching Raw every week and when people actually talked about Raw at school and work. Reigns is a literally who compared to him.

THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING STATE OF YOU

>>1926881
Way more people know Reigns than know Jasethy or Record Lowens though.

>>1926874
Doesn't mean shit if they're not drawing good ratings and gates as champion fampai. Roman didn't.

Plus a lot of those views come from foreign countries where WWE doesn't run shows.

With how much this product has made people cringe, they should be considered lucky to even be within the 50 range for most watched shows.

>>1926874

Yet when it comes to things that actually make WWE money like ratings, Merchandise or Live attendance he doesn't move the needle anymore than anyone else on the roster not named John Cena.

But hey, his video got 100,000 more views on Youtube than the rest of the segments. Vince can use that extra $20 and restock the sweet n low packets in the 5th floor breakroom at Titan Tower.

>Y-youtube views d-ddon't count
>S-social m-media metrics d-ddon't count
>the state of smarks

If mental gymnastics were part of the Olympics smarks would easily win gold medal.

>>1926884
Well, duh. WWE doesnt promote them like they promote Reigns. If fewer people knew those two than Reigns, I'd be fucking worried.

Seth kinda sucks too, but hey, at least he drew better ratings during football season than Roman drew as champion outside football season. And drew 1.2 million more viewers after winning the title at Mania than Boreman did.

>>1926897
>WWE doesnt promote them like they promote Reigns.
>implying

Jasethycucks pretend that their man didn't get a similar titan push equal to Roman.

>>1926896
They dont fucking count because they don't translate into gates and ratings

>>1926906
Jasethy = Seth Rollins

>>1926897
Reigns isn't even in the main title picture anymore because fat fucking smarks cried so much about it.

Now we have "main events" between indie shitters where you can hear the air conditioning and less people care than ever.

>>1926886

This. Pajeets will literally never give a dime to the wwe. Them watching roman matches on repeat doesn't mean a thing.

>>1926906
>Losing match after match clean on free TV
>Cena beats him repeatedly while he holds the world title
>Frequently getting less screen time than Roman feuds
lmao

That shit would never happen to Reigns. At least not until the pulled got popped

Bryanfag is the king of ,oving goalposts

Where the fuck is the proof of Jericuck out drawing Roman?

>>1926919

On the spring tour, the Jericho/Dean house show tour was drawing better then champion Roman despite being in much smaller markets.

>>1926914
He's not in the main event picture because he's a pillhead and drew shit gates and ratings. I have my problems with Rollins andOwenns but goddamn at least theyre not Reigns. He was handed the keys to the kingdom and blew it.

But hey, he can still beat the main champ on TV.

>>1926537
t. Vince

>>1926926
>le pill head

All the greatest wrestlers of all time used PEDs you colossal faggot.

>>1926635
They're more fit than you, lad
Absolutely SEETHING

>>1926537
Hi Phil!

>It's a "Bryanfag"/"FedoRamen" samefagging about his imaginary boyfriend thread

Roman Reigns is far more popular than Jericho globally. This is an Indisputable fact.

>>1926932
If you can't do it without getting caught you dont deserve your position

>>1926660
But he drew dimes, you idiot. That's a fact. Search for it.
Also, he's JeriGOAT for q reason
Stay mad, autistic retard

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>>1926914

This. Raw wasn't terrible this week but it wont even be close when smackchad comes on tonight.

>big dog puts on a 5 star match with jerigoat
>fat ass smarks boo

There were alot of Roman cheers last night in his intro and during the match.

>>1926493
Serious question. Is wrestling dying?

Infact there are only select few wrestlers who are more popular than Roman worldwide...

1. Rock
2. Cena
3. Hulk Hogan
4. Brock
5. Austin
6. Triple H
7. Undertaker
8. Goldberg

And this is where Roman Reigns decisively comes into the list at place no.9.

>>1926943

no.

18+

>>1926940
How does using PEDs have anything to do with "deserving your position" in a fake sport? Should actors not "deserve their position" if they used a drug either? Don't be stupid. The WWE's policy is fucking retarded and not defensible.

>>1926932

Different times. Roman was dumb enough to piss hot in the post benoit era.

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>>1926886
Because they're not on tour 24/7? They don't do European tours, Australian tours and Asian tours? Gotcha.

Because Roman Reigns hasn't sold more merch than most of the roster consistently? Gotcha.

Because despite not even being advertised for the main-event, despite not having anything to do with the main-event in several months, live attendance is down and it's Reigns' fault? Gotcha.

You win gold at Smark Mental Gymnastics. Congratulations!

>>1926944
All of those names have more than 10 years on their belt excluding the time they trained.

Roman including his SHEBD days are just 4 years into his career, 7 if you count FCW memes.

Smarks can't seriously look at/listen to:

Deanetty
Record Lowens
Jasethy

Or anyone similar and think they will ever be over with any kind of mainstream audience.

Even their darling Daniel Cryan has no mainstream recognition whatsoever. I guarantee more people in the world have heard of Roman Reigns.

The Smark Era is just a failed experiment. They don't look like wrestlers, they don't act like wrestlers, and nobody normal gives a shit.

>implying taking Adderall is bad
(lol

If he got popped for weed or serious shit like roids then he is indefensible but Adderall?

(lol

>>1926950
your point?

>>1926537
Sup Cryin Ryan Reeves

>>1926953
Daniel Cryan is pure cringe at """reality""" TV

>boohoo I'm so sad I'm not rassling
>I still have my shitty beard

>>1926949

All this and you still couldn't prove that youtube views mean anything. Also ratings plummeted on the 3rd hour. Roman was avertised as the main event on the 2nd.

>>1926943
TV wrestling is dying

>>1926949

How is that mental Gymnastics when those are the things that actually sustain a billion dollar company?

>>1926957
Spent the entire episode crying and then literally left his wife at cenas home cause he couldnt handle the bantz

>>1926964
Roman made vince a billionaire again.

HAHAHAHHAHAHA TAKE THAT ANTI-SMARKS

>Roman does not move merch
>has only 1 terribly old shirt and 1 new one which is a recolor
>everyone else gets 4-5 shirts with new ones rotating every few months

WWE has no one to blame but themselves, his shirts are terrible looking as well.

>>1926973
casuals and smart people who would watch roman were out partying last night, loser.

>>1926944
>Goldberg
Shawn Michaels is more known than that roid guy

>>1926957
>>1926964

>big draw bryan has the fat antismarks watching his shitty reality show
How can one man be so based?

>>1926957
>SEETHING

Based Big Dog working the smarks so hard they turn off their TV.

Absolutely fucking based.

>>1926493
Is TV watching an alt sport now? Save us.

>>1926947
First of all, he wasn't busted for PEDs, you idiot. It was Adderall.

Secondly, it's illegal. WWE doesnt doesn't want their performers doing illegal shit. They're poor representatives of the company in that case.

>>1926998

For morbidly obese american """"people""""" it is.

>>1927004
>using adderall is illegal

>>1927004
Performers... This isn't /entertainment/

>>1927004
Funny how all of WWE's most popular wrestlers, including ones they constantly still show on television, have done "illegal shit".

>>1926959
I've stated several times where YouTube views matter. It's not my fault you don't like what you're reading.

YouTube views attribute to what people want to see on-demand. You can't claim that tv viewership went down because of Roman Reigns when he's the most watched online. On television, there are literally thousands of reasons why people stopped watching. Another program started, they had things to do, they got bored, etc, whatever. On YouTube, you choose to click that video and watch it. And consistently, Reigns is the most clicked, most watched part on YouTube.

>>1927017
Again, I will repeat. A pajeet watching roman matches on repeat literally draws no dimes for the wwe. There is no cross over between youtube viewers and ratings/gates. If the video went viral with 10mil views you might have a point, but a few hundred thousand for a brand that size is a joke within itself.

>>1926493
>halloween episode
>almost no one dresses up

>>1927031
Not the guy you're arguing with but youtube still gets ad rev from clicks my man.

>3 hours
>all of the over wrestlers on Smackdown

Basically 3 hours of minor leagues, almost TNA boring

>>1926874
Read the comments of those videos and you got a different story

>>1927031
5% conversion rate of internet advertising is considered average to good. If 10,000 Pajeet's watch a Roman Reigns video and see him wearing one of those pink cancer shirts and think to themselves: "I want one of them", and 200 or so follow the link to buy a shirt, that's a 2% conversion rate of an audience member to a buying customer. Not only is this good for WWE, but it's good for the sponsors that want in on their social media.

Let's also not forget that YouTube pays handsomely, and getting ~382,332,000 views for the last 30 days alone means they'll be paid big time if the CPM is around $1 per 1000 views.

>>1927092
Who cares about the comments? They're still watching the video. If I open a shop selling apples, you come in buy one, say it tastes of shit but then come back in tomorrow to buy another one, what will I care? You and hundreds of others are still coming in to buy my apples. And the hundreds of others silently like it.

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>>1926937

Hey you fucking faggot I'm the FedoRamen Stalker and I hadn't posted in this thread yet.

Stop thinking the entire board is one person you stupid FedoRamen

>>1927044

Hardly with everybody and their grandmother using ad block.

>>1927152

Now if you could prove that anybody clicks on those you would have a leg to stand on. The point I was trying to make was that the wwe youtube channel has over 13 million subs and cannot even pull a mil for a main event. Which is why youtube is a poor indicater of popularity. Since such a small portion of the viewer base even cares. Also Strowman pulled the most views of the show for active wrestlers. The goldstein segment pulled over 2 mil.

>>1927243

You're over thinking this. The eva marie wardrobe malfunction has over 13 MILLION views. Meanwhile anything related to sasha and charlotte hiac match can hardly pull a million. Smarks are a very vocal minority.

>>1927243
>Now if you could prove that anybody clicks on those you would have a leg to stand on
That's literally internet advertising. If it wasn't making money, they wouldn't upload it.

>Roman is over guys, look at the youtube views
>writers are getting blamed in WWE because Roman isn't over
http://www.inquisitr.com/2941043/wwe-news-major-backstage-heat-on-roman-reigns-this-time-not-from-wwe-officials/


it's either one or the other FedoRamen and clearly is the second

Roman is a liability to the company, the writers, the wrestlers, the fans.

If wrestling was just looks, Matt Morgan and Test would be 10 times champ, each. It isn't.
Go flaunt your closeted homosexuality somewhere else.

First 10 minutes were the only thing worth watching anyways.

>>1927291
Porn gets millions of viewers too. Should we turn wrestling to porn so that it gets more views?

>>1927342
Well, yeah.

>>1927357
or maybe you should just watch porn

Our guy Rusev should be champion of the universe and main eventing

>>1927467
Vince killed all of RuRu's momentum after he married Lana and he had to drop the cuck storyline.

>>1927391
Why? That's inappropriate.

>>1927342
>live sex celebration ratings. Jpg

>>1926493

>One of the worst go-home RAWs in recent memory
>Followed by a PPV that was largely unremarkable with a TNA tier main event and finish
>Ratings drop

Does this surprise ANYONE except Vince at this point?

>>1926711
Liberals are retards.

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>>1928509

Word

>>1926942
>Roman cheers
>Not Dun pumping fake cheers in like they try and mute his boos.

Get worked mark.

Holy shit. Even I didn't watch it last night cause I was out.

>Oh boy its Halloween. Better stay home and watch raw.

You fucking idiots

>>1926493
RAW has so much talent, why don't they just make an exciting TV show? SD is just so much better and it's basically just AJ and Dean's wacky ride with some Ziggler/Miz sprinkles. RAW just constantly starts and stops storylines, jobs out hot talent to boring wrestlers no one cares about, and generally can't come up with an interesting angle for some of the best wrestlers on the fucking planet. What the fuck is wrong with this show?

>>1928608
>RAW has so much talent, why don't they just make an exciting TV show

so much? where?

They have Roman, Rusev and Lesnar, that's it. Rest suck ass and have no charisma.

>>1928622
>lesnar
>charisma

kek

>>1926545
women's wrestling is fine enough when they have a good story and booking. as per the recent trend in women-directed media in our society lately, women's wrestling on RAW is super sanitized and lacking in heart. It never feels like these women hate each other or feel any other emotions, we're just watching another fucking house show match between two people who probably have something better to do. Foley's promos about how proud he is of womens wrestling and how he's scared to see these ladies get their bodies broken blow because both he and the crowd have no attachment to the women involved. We're all just bored, wondering whether big daddy Haitch will show up and give us a story we give a shit about.

>>1928622
You're shitposting. Rusev is the only charismatic one of those three. Brock and Roman are the drizzling shits in promos. There are at least 15 wrestlers on RAW more entertaining than the three you mentioned either due to mic skills or in-ring skill.

>>1926859
You are really dumb dude. People can name a Rock, Austin, Hogan, likely Brock Lesnar these days. Guys like Taker and flair if they're older maybe and guys like Jericho and CM Punk if they're younger. Again, this is normies or people that only ever watched casual amounts of wrestling. No one knows who the ever living fuck Roman Reigns is no matter how many fuckin shows he went on. Dumbass.

>>1928622
>getting worked by RAM shitbooking
>claiming that Roman is talented + charismatic

You dumb bastard.

>>1926859
>more people know who Reigns is than Jericho

Are you attempting to set a record for the wrongest thing posted on here?

Y'know, it's funny, but even a year or so ago nobody pretended that YouTube views had any kind of correlation with drawing power.

I guess the Romannetty apologists really are desperate and need anything they can get, but.

>>1926942
>Reigns vs. Jericho
>5-star match

Holy shit the state of your fucking standards junior.

>>1926906
>Titan

Seth did more clean jobs as WWE World Champion than Reigns has in his entire WWE career.

>>1928722
FedoRamen

>>1926537
I'll say this much, Ive never met anyone in my whole life whos a Nielsen family. So if almost nobody knows what most people are watching why do these ratings mean anything?

>>1926944
This post is 8 hours old and it still pissed me off
> no Orton
> no Batista
> no Macho Man
> no Beniot (inb4 d-doesn't count!)
> no Shamrock
> no Angle
> no Rey Rey
> no CM Punk (inb4 /asp/ gets triggered. He's much more well known then Reigns amongst casuals)
> no Dusty
> no Piper

I know I got baited hard but God damn on the off chance you really think Reigns is even in the top 30 most well known wrestlers of all time please get a clue

>>1928964
Oh fuck just remember about the Total Divas/Bellas. Push Reigns even further down lol

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>yet another shit ram

why even bother watching

>>1928655
No, you're really dumb because your reading comprehension skills are appalling.

The Rock, Hulk Hogan, Steve Austin, yes they'll be known. I'm not disputing that. What I'm disputing is the fact that Chris Jericho has never ever been in the same league as Hogan, Rock or Austin. When it comes to the casual crowd, they'll know of a guy who's regularly networking and making himself knowm over a guy who did all that 20 years ago and does very little since.

If you honestly think differently, you've been watching wrestling and been apart of smark culture for far too long. The public doesn't care about wrestling. Hence why it's dying. No-one cares about legends the same way they did in the 90s anymore.

>>1929093
>What I'm disputing is the fact that Chris Jericho has never ever been in the same league as Hogan, Rock or Austin.

Neither has Roman.

>>1926873
They'll all say Hogan 90% of the time. Literally the most well-known wrestler of all time, forever.

>>1929099
Absolutely correct. But Reigns is more current and he's doing something to become relevant. Something Jericho hasn't done for decades.

>>1926537
t. Roman Reigns

>>1929340
Lol, so you're saying that Roman is a more dynamic and interesting character than Jericho who can put over a piece of paper in the blink of a segment?

I don't mind people supporting Roman and liking him, but damn you are one delusional moron. I guess considering where we are I shouldn't be surprised.

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>>1929133

I didn't watch WWE for over a decade. During that time I travelled a lot. It rarely came up, but this is the list of wrestling icons:

>Hulk
>Andre
>Macho Man
>Warrior (though people usually impersonate Macho Man's voice while saying "I am the Ultimate Warrior", so maybe they blend in together)
>Hitman, "pencil-neck geek", people seem to associate the line to him instead of Classy Freddie Blassie because, I dunno', probably his appearance on The Simpsons)
>Flair (people tend to know OF his appearance more than they know him)
>Undertaker
>The Rock
>Stone Cold

Without adjusting to cultural icons (obviously India loves their Khali, Italians love their Bruno, etc.), that's pretty much it. You catch some references to "the Olympics guy" but nobody really recognizes Kurt from a picture.

Boom. That's what it's like in the real world. The bottom line is you can be the best technical wrestler on the fucking planet, you might go in the Hall of Fame with a hundred 5-star matches, but actually being your own pop culture figure without being super esoteric is a whole separate upper-tier. That is what actually being a wrestling ICON is.

The worst is when the Redditors flap their chins talking shit like, "Oh, HBK is a household name, Jericho is a household name, you could stop a 50-year-old guy in the street in [insert random country's capital] and they would definitely know Nakamura." Like how fucking deluded are you? Everyone on the planet knows Hulk Hogan. I love Jericho, I think he's one of the best things going in WWE right now, but to think the general masses outside of the wrestling bubble are aware of his existence is just sad. Goldberg was one of the biggest things going in WCW and he's still just "Stone Cold." Fuck, ask yourself right now, are you aware that 90% of the world still casually refer to the WWE as "WWF"? People don't even know or give a shit that the name changed (you still see it called WWF on random TV shows), and that was nearly 15 years ago.

>>1929340
Jericho got a fucking potted plant over in a matter of weeks.

Reigns can't get himself over after literally the entire company spends years blowing him.

>he's doing something to become relevant.

Being the biggest flop in WWE history?

>>1929498
Rocky mavia was a flop until later in his career.

>>1929491
>The bottom line is you can be the best technical wrestler on the fucking planet, you might go in the Hall of Fame with a hundred 5-star matches,

Careful, your issues are showing.

>plebbit

Who fucking cares?

>>1929758
Rocky Maivia was salvaged shortly after his rookie year.

Reigns is approaching the 4th anniversary of his debut.

At the equivalent point in the timeline, Rock had already become so over that one of his catchphrases was used as the title for WWE's B-show.

Reigns still hasn't even gotten one of his own catchphrases even passably over.

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Why are they blaming the ratings on wrestlers when cable itself becomes a shittier product by the day? Almost everyone I know has sworn off of it and never looked back.

We have cable in the break room at work and there's three kinds of shows in rotation
>Reality show about women shopping and being rich
>Reality show about wannabe gangsters sitting around the crib rambling while smoking something
>Sitcom about retarded husband and always-right wife
>"Edgy" show that inevitably includes cuckshit because it's "so not PC"

I'd happily watch RAW/SD if they came on the network less than a month after taping but there is no force in hell or on earth that could make me pay $50/month or more to turn my TV into an idiot box

>>1927329
Damn it Vince, it took you less to realize the Lex Express was a mistake. I guess it's senile dementia

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>>1926873
>Ask a person who doesn't watch wrestling to name a wrestler and they'll say Cena, Hogan or The Rock.

Ask a person who watches wrestling to name a wrestler and they'll say Stone Cold, Taker or Haitch.

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>Finally got excited to watch RAW when Finn came on
>Seth almost immediately tries to end his career by slamming him against the railings where the only thing that can keep Finn from being paralyzed is to sacrifice his shoulder so Seth doesn't break his neck on the barricade
>Finn's out
>Just like he retired Sting
>Just like he put Cena out for half a year
>Just like his dumb-ass injured himself
>They KEEP PUSHING HIS TINY-DICK ASS
>Don't watch RAW anymore because it's just a matter of time before Seth retires all of my favorites
Don't put him lower on the card, FIRE HIM

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>>1926944
>>1928964
>Most popular wrestler on the current roster and the face of A show.
>Has held a belt in every major wrestling promotion except the Mexican ones.
>MFW Fedoramens don't want none.

>>1929873
>Smackdown
>"A" show

LOL

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>>1929960
sure thing uce?

>>1926537
t. vince

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>>1929873

>Smackdown
>"A" show

Now there's a good joke. Seek sunlight.

>>1926493

Ratings always go down after the first hour no matter who or what happens, this is literal common sense. The fact that WWE went from consistently pulling in 3 million viewers on average since Seth became champion last year to 2 million is what is alarming. Talk about completely chasing people away from the company.

>>1930629
Hi Mick "my wife loves you" Foley

>>1929851
>Just like he put Cena out for half a year

...what?

>>1930645
>Talk about completely chasing people away from the company.

But the big ratings drop happened in February...