He's grown on me. I like him now.

>>1832668
He's based. It's okay.

I want them to give him more mic time, it seems like he's gotten better

>Getting worked by the american hero storyline

God Americans are pathetic.

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He's always been fucking based

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>>1832952
>he spends his nights watching an American children's show

>>1832964

Jokes on you, I don't.

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>>1832975
>he spends his time discussing an American children's show he doesn't even watch on a Polynesian scrimshaw kabal

>>1832952
It doesn't even make sense because Rusev is literally more of an American hero.

>>1832952
nah, this storyline is boring (despite the two of them putting on good matches) its just nice that he's getting more natural on the mic and probably has the chops for a heel turn or something

>>1832982

And yet here you are also.

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Based Big Dog is the only draw on Raw

Not sure why they keep shoving women's wrestling as important

>>1833029
>poo-in-loos

Women's Title match is already halfway there in less than half the time.

Just went to RAW in Los Angeles. After the show I went to a merchandise stand and asked for a Roman Reigns shirt in XXXL. They were sold out and sold out in all sizes, including youth sizes. Same thing at another stand.

>>1832668
he got a little fatter. I can see the Rosie in him.

I guess he ditched the eye contacts?

>>1833056
>XXXL

You mean a Kevin Owens shirt

>>1833040
That's only because is the main event, and the match was great, so it's getting attention views. Even THEN, a mid card tittle from "somebody who everyone hates" gets more views, always.

Based BIG DOG working this fatass.

>>1833062
ill say it once and ill say it again

>poo in loos

they will literally mark out for a steaming piece of shit with legs in the ring if the show tells them to.

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>>1833065
>SEETHING THIS FUCKING HARD

>The state of the smarks

>>1833040
>first women's title main event since 2004
>title change on a random Raw
>meanwhile a random US title feud for a desensitized cage match has more views

18+

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last week's raw

>new gay and jasethy BTFO

>>1833083
>1.76 million views for a midcard title
>the state of guest stars

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week before last's

>BTFO

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>>1833083
>more views than the TOP TEN
>more views than the main event plot

The
State
Of
The
Smarks

>>1833085
>Jasethy and Rusev had a better match
>drew less than a generic steel cage match
(lol

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kek

>>1833091
Everyone knew that ROH memelords do not draw.

I'm pretty sure Dean or Bray proved it a long time ago.

>>1832668
He's still shit

>>1833062
The match was shit

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What happened, seth bros?

I t-thought he was T-THE MAN....??

>>1833074
>been online for over twice as long

Stats 101+

>>1833094
Owens has been a top merch seller literally his entire main roster run and then some.

Reigns is barely ever Top 10.

>>1833091
India is the second most populous country in the world, with 1,336,286,256 people nearly a fifth of the world's population

>>1832668

There's literally no reason to hate Roman Reigns since the end of last year's wrestlemania main event. If you did/do you're just an obese manchild who has a lot of growing up to do.

>>1833149
I really hope this is falseflagging.

>>1833029

Simply amazing. Every other vid is stuck on 25k views max, and his has 80,000.

>>1833152

Why would I need to false flag about anything? I can only assume you fit the description of the latter part of my post.

>>1833083
>Big Views Cesaro

>>1833155
Keep swingin' at those windmills Don.

>>1833085
>>1833083
>>1833029
>cruisercucks

>>1833149
>There's literally no reason to hate Roman Reigns since the end of last year's wrestlemania main event.

If he wasn't put together as "Wrestler™," it would be fine. But everything from his look to his moveset with that silly fist pump thing make him come across as a guy created entirely by committee in a business where creativity of the performer is required to get over.

>>1833182
He is literally an 11 year-old's CAW

>all black outfit
>longhair
>tattoo

Only difference is CAWs actually do power moves.

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>>1833085
It's cool that you think he's got a big draw based on Youtube views. WWE's probably also looking at sales of their own merch and Reigns isn't even in the top 40 items.

Fuck, even Gallows & Anderson's shirt is a better seller than Roman's.

>>1833193
HEYYYYYYYY MAAAAAAAAAAANNNN

WE CAME TO CONQUER AND DIVIDE

>>1833102
he's not THE GUY

>>1833056
>XXXL

Fuck you, you fucking whale

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>>1833193
>doesn't know that best sellers doesn't actually sort by best selling algorithm and instead sorts by whoever wwe wants to put there

>>1833222
If that were true why isn't Reigns on top?

That doesn't make him look strong.

>chart that proves literally nothing

>>1833245
Cause he's been buried hard ever since he got popped? Only reason he's us champ is because wwe is desperate for ratings and he's popular. They're still trying to bury and punish the guy. He's been kicked out the universal title scene twice now.

>>1833245
>record revenue when Roman won the rumble
>drops down to earth when Roman is out of the title scene for 2 quarters
>jumps back up to abmormal record levels when roman is back in the title scene
>hatch buries him in 2016 but numbers are still higher than every other year aside from 2015

Yeah, proves nothing

>>1833264
That is correlation at best.

And I'm not sure you know how to properly read that chart.

>>1833253
>buried hard
>US Champ

>>1833253
>buried

He's the US champ and his presence alone made the title more relevant and important than Raw's main belt.

If he were buried he'd be in a tag team with a random nobody or feuding with Titus O'Neil.

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Roman dominates digital and social media metrics because Generation Z loves him and they consume all their media that way. The smarks are millienials, and millenials are the out of touch establishment now.

Boomers wanted Hogan and abandoned WWF for WCW. When WCW went down they never returned to WWF, despite them having Austin. If WWF had a monopoly in 1998, boomer fans would have booed Austin. They rejected Austin indirectly in favour of Hogan and Goldberg. Austin was a top draw because he created a huge new generation of fans, not because Hogan era fans liked him.

Gen X wanted another Austin so they rejected Cena for not being edgy enough and not doing chair shots to the head or whatever shit they think a top guy should do. They wanted an edgy heel Cena instead, but of course it never happened. Some of those nerds even stayed long enough to try and get CM Punk on top but failed because everyone but le edgy Gen Xers thought he was a whiny bitch.

Now its gone full circle, Millenials wanted another earnest white meat babyface like Cena. They tried their best to get Daniel Bryan in that spot but it failed. The buyrates don't lie. Gen Z kiddies weren't asking their parents to buy the pay per views. They don't give a fuck about >muh yes movement and >muh David v Goliath. Gen Z are growing up in a more atomised society and want to live vicariously through a one versus all Big Dog who looks out for himself in a dangerous world and flips off his haters. Roman will get more popular in the next 5 years as more Gen Z kiddies start watching wrestling and more millenials tune out.

Thats why smarks will always hate the top guy - because kid shows are always targeted at the emerging generation, not the current one. I've been a wrestling fan since the 80s. I've seen this three times now. Its just part of wrestling. Either deal with it or find a new show to watch.

You faggots are the ones out of touch, not Vince.

>>1833321
I really hope this is pasta.

>you're out of touch
>not Vince

kek

>>1833327

Smarks have been the same ever since the IWC was created in the late 90s. They are men in their 20s who bitch about WWE not catering to the tastes of men in their 20s.

Smarks have always been out of touch and Vince has always been ahead of the game.

>>1833343
And yet the most successful boom period in the company's history was...oh yeah, catering to men in their 20s.

>and Vince has always been ahead of the game.

HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Vince hasn't updated his playbook since 1989.

Also:

>ever since the IWC was created in the late 90s.

There are Usenet posts speculating on the outcome of the upcoming WrestleMania *IV*.

>>1833321
>Roman will get more popular in the next 5 years as more Gen Z kiddies start watching wrestling and more millenials tune out.
With the way ratings are going, every generation is tuning out and nobody will give a fuck about Roman.

>>1833365

Wrong. The attitude era was driven by kids and teenagers.

>>1832952
>not American
>watches a children's show 4 into the morning

lmao?????

>>1833401

>It's okay to be a retard if you're American

L M A O

>>1833193
I don't think where they're placed on WWE Shop is actually a legitimate basis for who sells well.
Why are you taking screencaps of the WWE Shop anyway, that's pretty sad.

>>1833385
>Shane O'Mac was a teenage kid in the late 90s

Wanna try again?

>>1833404
>got mad about being called a retard before denying that he watches a children's show 4 into the morning

What did he mean by this, boys?

>>1833411

>SEETHING

>>1833415
huh?

Congratulations OP, you just made the list.

>>1833420
>Pass User

You're already on all kinds of lists

>>1833321
Saved

neowooaspies BTFO

>>1833321
B A S E D

>>1833321
great post

>>1833422
You're on the list too.

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>>1833440
>Pass user since 2015

>>1833385
Fuckng retard

>>1832668
did anybody actually watch the rusev vs reigns match?

>>1833321

So this is what it looks like when an aspie has a clue

>>1833478
Rusev outshone him so much, it was pathetic.

>>1833478

I watched the finish of the PPV match. Rusev actually seemed to have put on a good match as much as I saw.

>>1832668
>Outpromo-ed by Lana
How does his daughter sleep at night?

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>>1832961
Cute! CUTE!

>>1832961

Cutting out the cringey part

Why?

>>1832982

kabal is a fictional word

good job, autismo

>>1832943
He's much better at being smug than the boring tough guy. Given time he could be quite good.

>>1833519
Rusev has been fucking based since his feud w/ Big E. One of the most polished guys on the roster, homegrown or not.

>>1833693
Only problem with that is "smug" is not a face trait.

he's still the same fucking person...what has really changed about him?

And its not necessarily his fault either, but haven't the writers realized yet, after all this fucking time, after all the boos he continues to get week after week, that this "funny" joke telling, cocky but not full heel cocky Roman just doesn't work...you need to have some charisma and some ability to work the crowd to get over in a tweener role and Roman does not and, likely at this point, will not ever be able to do it

They had the perfect opportunity to fix it this summer with his suspension. They could have had a double turn with him and Seth and everything now would make more sense but they fucked up immensely.

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>>1833321
>>1833321
SMARKS BTFO

>>1833321
you're looking to deep into this

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>>1833062
>the match was great

>>1832961
I can't stop watching this.

This simple gesture just elevated the US title

>>1833321
So why aren't those ''millions of fans'' watching Raw, showing up to cheer for him and buying his merch?

Why are his numbers so abysimal?

BTFO
Oh right, because you are talking out of your ass again.
He is the biggest flop ever and he's murdering the company.

>>1833321
wrestling has been dying a slow painful death, or its basically dead already. The new generation of fans or whatever you want to call them is a much smaller group of people than the older smarks who love the attitude era.

>>1834966
Are you retarded or did you stop reading halfway through? Read it once again without your fanboy or hater googles, and actually >get a clue

>>1834988
The size is comparable to the New Generation (lol the irony) era in early/mid 90s. So it actually makes sense.

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>>1834996
what?

>>1833065
Based Big Dog for working this autistic retard

>>1835006
>The new generation of fans or whatever you want to call them is a much smaller group of people than the older smarks who love the attitude era.

As I said - current new generation that >>1833321 was talking about is comparable to the new generation era fans that basically had to go through the same phase of familiarizing with the product. In other words - there are some points in which WWE always loses it's innitial fanbase and needs to cater to new, younger one, and steadily make the product more adult.

>>1835021
Ok, but the world was much different 15 or 20 years ago. Wrestling is far less popular with the main stream and its only going to get worse

>>1835025
How does this change anything? You said it's already dead, I have proven you that it was the same in early 90s for few years. You got me confused. This doesn't change anything but one thing (makes sense, I know) - when and IF it will go back to being popular with anons predictions (>>1833321) it will be just smaller than it was in Austin era. But let's not bury a guy who is still kicking.

>>1835029
it wont go back. UFC took way too much business from wrestling and little kids stop caring about John Cena and other wrestler by the time they get to highschool

>>1835052
You see? You basically admitted he is right >>1833321

He said the same thing about people back then who reverted from WWF (but they went to WCW, and never came back to WWF, you can't choose WCW because there is no other global pro wrestling promotion on the scale of WWE, so you chose UFC). Makes too much sense.

>>1833321
none of this matters. Nobody is going to look back on this current time period of WWE with anything but disdain

>>1833321
This post gave me cancer.

>>1835233
How can cancer get cancer?

>>1833321
Little kids loved Hogan. Boomers were like 35-40 in Hogan's era.

>>1835058
You stupid faggot, you think people didn't watch BOTH?? That was the entire reason that fucking era was great, there were two national wrestling shows on at the same time directly competing with each other. It's not the same thing because people, young and old, leave for UFC and never look back.

>>1835021
WWE never loses it's fanbase. It's fanbase is literally
LITERALLY
people who watched and loved Hogan in the 80s and 90s. Their main demographic is 40 year old "men'' now. They never rebuild, the one boom they had was the 90s because Hogan went heel (in another promotion) and made the Attitude Era what it was. There are some of those people still around, too, but a vast majority of the late 90s fans are gone and never coming back. There's nobody even close to Hogan's level right now or on the horizon, there's no saving this business and no bringing it back to it's glory days.

You might as well ask what people can do to bring back horse racing as a mainstream popular attraction. You can't. It's over.

>>1833321
at the shows i went to it was mainly tweens who liked cena

>>1833440
how do I turn on this setting

>>1832952
kek

>>1833253
Nigg he hasn't been a best seller in two (2) years.

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>>1833321
say it with me: HAVE SEX