THE FUCK WAS THIS GARBAGE? LITERALLY THE WORST MATCH OF SS

>Plebbit unironically thought this lame match should go on last

>>1635386
It was bretty good until it ended too early

hopefully Ziggler will go back down to midcard where he belongs

>>1635646
fuck off faggot

>>1635646
>>1635386
This

>>1635595
It really wasn't dude. People will make excuses for it because they like Dean and Dolph. If Roman had a ppv WWE Championship match that weak, everyone would be shitting on it and you know it.

I don't understand why anyone had high expectations either, it's known that both guys need to be in the ring with a better worker to have really good matches.

>>1635646
at this point i don't even want him on the midcard anymore

>>1635386
>Hur Lesnar didn't help me to get a 10/10 match
>do the same with Ziggler
Is this nigger serious?

>>1635646
Have sex

it was your regular deanetty match

Deanetty just can't seem to put on a good match.

How long before they realize Dean Ambrose as champ was a mistake?

>>1635386
>Dean was there
>Worst match of the show
Yep, sounds about right.

Only because Roman didn't have a match.

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>>1635386
Deanfags defend THIS
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r521/landycakes42/LOL.gif

>>1635386
Ziggler should have won that match and went on to defend it against AJ. They fucked up hard.

>>1636931
They should've worked Bray into a triple threat and let him win, tbqh

>>1635386

And absolutely NO ONE other than smackdown cronies is surprised.

>>1636754

Also had the worst match at wrestlemania. It's his rep at this point.

>>1636931
Ziggler should feud with Miz as Colonel Sanders

>>1635386
Dean is taking the blame for this match. All of the the actual good spots of the match came from Ziggler.

Fuck Dean 'wacky arms' Ambrose

>>1635386
Ziggler just looked like he gave it hist standard. He didn't do anything to show he can go beyond his normal skill set and make us think his heart was in it.

Also, god bless Dean and his Heel antics. Someone had to pick up the slack.

Ziggler can not be the scapegoat for that fuckfest of a match, I hate to come to terms with this but Dean is a fucking horrible wrestler, talker, and champion. Please can he leave

>>1637801
It's real easy to blame them both. neither of them did anything remarkable. Ill give Dean props for his heel stuff.

>>1635386
THE STATE OF DOLPHIN ZIGGLER
You know you're poo poo when ya can't have a good match with basedean. Poor dean had to carry that flipping manlet the whole time

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>>1637856
Im a Dean fan, but you need to delete this bait.

Dean Ambrose is probably one of the most over rated wrestlers in WWE history. Literally horrible in-ring, bad look, uninteresting mic work, cheesy move set.

Ziggler is under rated. Good move set, good look, high charisma, has natural baby face mic work, closest to HBK you can get

thank god AJ will take belt next PPV

>>1637892
They're both trash and belong on the lower midcard. Shawn Michaels had a great grasp on psychology and when something will be most impactful. Ziggler has none. His micwork consists of unfunny comedy and screaming in a feminine manner. I'm glad he got beat with one finisher, it shows the company doesn't take him seriously as they shouldn't.

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>>1635386
Ambrose just gets all the bad matches at the big shows.

>>1637856
Please lose weight.

>>1637947
have sex

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>>1637947

Ziggler shitting up another match, nothing new here.

>>1637892
>Ziggler is under rated. Good move set, good look, high charisma, has natural baby face mic work, closest to HBK you can get

Yeah, because his gimnick is "IM LE NEW HBK XDDD"

>>1637947
No one kicks out of Dirty Deeds. Its protected.

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>>1638066
Why would you come on here and just lie?

>>1635646
He should take Deanetty with him.

>Dean given a match at a PPV
>It's one of the worst ones on the card after it's over

Why does this continue to shock people

>>1637892
>>1638059
this
We don't need new [insert]
Wrestling will continue to be shit as long as Vince and the talent keep sucking the old era cock
We just need new gimmicks, no more vanilla indies, give them all something interesting or stupid, either work.
Matt Hardy can save wrestling

>>1635386

People keep telling me that dean is a good wrestler, but all I see is garbage matches

?????

What did they mean by this?

>>1638111
Dean consistently puts on 5 star matches. Ziggler brought him down to a 2 tonight.

>>1638126
>Dean consistently puts on 5 star matches

Shield broke up 2 years ago Pedro

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>>1635386
This was the 2nd best match of the night.

>>1638173
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdtKbq3Omkw

>>1638173

Maybe if you're blind it was

Dean's wrestling quality much like his balding, can only be covered for so long

>>1638091
it actually is though

this year I'm pretty sure the worst thing that happened to it was owens rolling out of the ring to beat a 10 count in their lms match

>>1638199

Roman's spear is more protected.

>>1638199
this year I'm pretty sure the worst thing that happened to it was owens rolling out of the ring to beat a 10 count in their lms match
I'm pretty sure Dean using the DD on Roman into a steel chair was this year.

>>1638212
didn't Jasethy kick out of it?

>>1638212
doesn't mean that dirty deeds isn't

anyone know the stats for the sethigree?

>>1638222

HHH also kicked out of it, but there was a ref bump in both scenarios.

>>1638153
Yes and?

>>1638229

Roman kicked out of dirty deeds at Fast Lane.

>>1638229
>stats for the sethigree
It still looks like ass

>>1638243
Thats just not true

>>1638241

list 5 5-star matches deanetty has had

>>1638182
>>1638185
Name a better match that isn't Cena-Styles or Preshow.

>>1638251
Terrible tons of people have kicked out of it.

>>1638255
vs HHH @ Roadblock

vs Seth @ TLC

vs Jericho @ ER

vs Seth & Reigns @ BATTLEGROUND

>>1635386
>expecting more of deanetty and dolph "which dx member am i copying this time" ziggler.
come on now.

>>1638256
Finn Balor and Seth Rollins. The crowd was shit but it was a great match. I think Charlotte v. Banks was better but not by much.

I want to believe the Roman v. Rusev would have been good but we'll never know.

>>1638273
>vs Jericho @ ER

pmsl (pissing myself laughing)

>>1635561
So did Daddy Dave

Hope they make AJ styles or Cena the new champion

The RAW belt looking so shitty is the only saving SD from being the worse brand right now

>>1638273

>List 5
>Only lists 4

>Needs big daddy seth and roman to carry him all the time to have a good match

Truly exposed without the shield. What a garbage wrestler.

>>1638273
>>1638255
Fuck, add the Royal Rumble where he lasted longer than Roman in terms of when he was eliminated and the fact that Roman got to take a nap.

>>1638273


>5 Star

>>1638291

>Royal Rumble is a singles match now

>>1638255
Name one active wrestler in WWE who's had a five star match who isn't Cena

>>1638273
forgot VS Kevin Owens @ RR

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>>1638293
DELETE THIS!

>>1635386
Honestly this match was fine. It was about as good as can be expected by those two and normally would have been a fine main event for a smaller ppv.

However that Cena/AJ 5 star match kind of stole the show and even Seth/Finn couldn't live up to what Cena and AJ did. Only that crazy stiff Brock elbow at the end could take anyone's mind off of AJ and Cena. Also Rusev and Roman had a legit good match on RAW and WWE gave us complete shit for the ppv. Fans chanting "we want slater" was GOAT.

>>1638303

Seth Rollins

>>1638303
Cesaro every night. He could wrestle a corpse.

>not realizing they're setting up Dean as heel when he faces AJ

Dean will go down as one of the best heels in WWE. He's just stuck with a gimmick that doesn't suit his true talents. He got over because of his mic skills, but the man was meant to be a heel. They must see that now.

Ziggler can fuck off now. He neither works as a face or a heel. He should be future endeavored.

>>1638320

>If dean turns heel he'll suddenly be able to wrestle well

Hmm really makes you think

>>1638309

Are you sure they weren't chanting "We want Sanders" right after that KFC commercial?

>>1638311
>ROH Death Before Dishonor VIII
Jun 19th 2010 Tyler Black (C) Def. Davey Richards ROH World Heavyweight Title
****¾ (4.75)
>WWE Royal Rumble '15
Jan 25th 2015 Brock Lesnar (C) Def. (Pin) John Cena, Seth Rollins Triple-Threat WWE World Heavyweight Championship
****¾ (4.75)
No 5 star matches

>>1638312
>WWE Extreme Rules '16
May 22nd 2016 The Miz (C) Def. (Pin) Cesaro, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn Fatal 4-Way WWE Intercontinental Championship
****½ (4.5)
No 5 star matches

>>1638338

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvPzBvtHNLQ

>>1638359

>Le meltzer ratings

Oh yeah nevermind its a dummy

>>1638303

Kevin Owens vs Cesaro vs Rusev on Raw for the right to answer the US Open Challenge, followed by a by the numbers Cena defense that was SAVED by Rusev's in-ring storytelling.

Undefeated US Champ Rusev vs Undisputed Champ Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania would have been a 5 star match too.

>>1638359

A 4.75 is closer than anything deanetty will ever come close to in his bogus career

>Being the WWE champion and consistently having the worst matches of the night

Amrbrose would work much better in hardcore matches. He's like Mick Foley. He needs to be dishing out and taking big bumps.

>>1635386

>Smarks unironically wanted this match to main event cause "it had a good storyline guise"
>Ambrose wrestling like a drunkard
>Ziggler looking like he'd rather be on twitter telling awful jokes than to deal with Dean's garbage move set.

>>1638376
>This goalpost moving
>"I-i-i-i didn't mean any authority regarding five star matches, I meant my own personal idea of what a five star match would be, two lumbering slow shit workers hitting each other with boring 'power' moves like big boots, maybe even leg drops if they're feeling fancy, and then the guy who took a bit more HGH should get the win

>>1638417

>Complains about goal posting while strawmanning hard about irrelevant nonsense
>Dave Meltzer's ratings are an objective measurement of a match's quality

And even so, Rollins is much closer to that "coveted" 5 star rating than Deanetty is...so is Roman...with 4.75 star ratings...same with guys like Cesaro, Owens and Styles...so what does that tell you about Mr. Ambrose?

>Name one active wrestler in WWE who's had a five star match who isn't Cena

Shinsuke Nakamura. Are you going to nitpick about that one too?

>>1638440
>Shinsuke Nakamura
Ding ding ding!
I also would have accepted AJ Styles or Samoa Joe as correct answers

Dolph's Desperate-To-Be-HBK gimmick is a total flop

He doesn't have the good looks, swagger, or fluidity to be HBK, he needs to give it up

>>1638440

And to add onto this, when was the last time someone even got a 5 star rating in WWE from le meltz? That match from 2013 between Punk and Cena on RAW? Are you really as deluded to believe there haven't been any great or even better matches since then?

>>1638456
>That match from 2013 between Punk and Cena on RAW
No, the last was Punk vs Cena at MitB 2011
>Are you really as deluded to believe there haven't been any great or even better matches since then?
There have, Okada vs Tanahashi at WK10

>>1638469

So you follow Dave Meltzer so blindly you believe there haven't been any flawless matches in WWE since 2011...wew okay lad.

>>1638478

t. not upset solomonster fan

>anyone implying Meltzer isn't a washed-up weeabo who would give two Japanese jobbers in the Tokyo Dome a 4.75

>>1638478
>flawless matches
Flawless doesn't make a match amazing, or even good. It's not like every match starts at 5 stars by default and everything bad that happens deducts from it, matches start at zero stars, and get more or less depending on how it goes. I wouldn't even call the majority of 5 star matches flawless, including Punk vs Cena. The only matches that come to mind as being truly flawless are Okada vs Tana WK10, Steamboat vs Flair 2/3 falls, and Austin vs Bret at Mania 13

I don't watch WWF wrestling anymore since 2012.

Can someone tell me what the fuck the "Universal championship" is? Is it the new world championship belt?

>>1638478
WWE just simply can not match NJPW. The sooner you accept this the better.

>>1638505

Punk vs. Cena isn't even a 5 star match, it's full of botches and the ending is nonsensical and convoluted towards the end.

The match on RAW 2 years later was way better. Daniel Bryan also had some great matches in 2013 on RAW that don't get rated, Cesaro and Cena have had some great matches too that I'd consider much better than that one.

>>1638524

>Outlaw wrestling

>>1638530
>Sports entertainment

>>1638526
>it's full of botches
Name one
>the ending is nonsensical and convoluted towards the end
How so? It makes perfect sense to me.
>Vince and Laurinaitis come out to screw Punk
>Cena clobbers Laurinaitis because white meat superman babyface
>Punk takes advantage and gets the win
>Vince tries to get ADR to cash in so Punk isn't champion
>ADR runs out and Punk lands a lucky hit on him before running off
Do you have a learning disability?

dean has been a sloppy shitter for months but dolph didn't show anything he hadn't already, I never got the feeling from his performance that his promos were trying to convey

aj will pull a much better match out of ambrose

>>1638566
Youre an idiot not worth debating wrestling matches with

>>1638320
>Ziggler can fuck off now. He neither works as a face or a heel. He should be future endeavored.
Please have sex.

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>>1638576
Sure thing buddy

>>1638566
>Do you have a learning disability?

Are you this triggered cause I don't overrate a mandrama match as much as you do? Are you really this immature?

>>1638613
No, I simply question your mental health if you describe something so simple as being a convoluted mess, but by all means, come up with a valid criticism of the match worthy of detracting a star.

>always claims he's going to steal the show
>never steals the show

>deanetty and ziggler getting 0 pop

It's expected from dean but ziggler? I thought he still had fans. Embarrassing

>ziggler headbutts dean 2 times
>dean completely no sells it, just sits there on the buckle and doesnt move or turn his head once

fuck, he's one of the worst wrestlers ever

Dolph has literal brain damage and WWE scared to release him because he will almost certainly immediate commit a homicide-suicide of some sort.

Dolph hasn't been "all there" since 2009.

>>1638338
Heels do way better if they're a shit wrestler, because youre supposed to boo them. His cocky attitude was great.

>>1635779
Ziggler is shit :)

>people were worked into thinking ziggler was getting an actual push

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

How bad was Ambrose no selling this match?

What's the reason?

I don`t really understand why this match even happened, I put ziggler in the same category as Ryder except Ryder is less of a bore and doesnt have ramen noodle hair.

>>1638958
He knew the crowd didn't care

I love how you guys think Dean is bad in the ring yet he was the best part of the match

>>1638985
>B-b-b-but his character doesn't sell as much that totally means he can't sell even though he sells all the time when he wants to!

>>1639005
Lol your funny no he sells more than you give him credit

>>1635386
>LITERALLY THE WORST MATCH OF SS
The tag title match was way worse

But yeah pretty boring match.

>>1638985
Anyone in a match with Ziggler is the best part of the match, that`s like saying cumming is the best part of a blowjob.

>>1639015
I'm just about to watch it, how bad is the tag match? is it worth watching because I'm literally not hyped for this match at all dispute how much I want to see the club wrestling.

>>1638958
Ziggler getting buried as fuck.

I bet they don't even turn him heel after this which is literally the only way to salvage this poor faggot.

>>1639024
Xavier is wrestling and John Stewart does a run in.

Tells you all you need to know really.

>this is the best of smackdown

>>1639024
>>1639038
Good Brothers win by DQ after Big E returns and lays them out, New Day retains

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>THAT barricade spot

>>1639079
Was it a work?

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>>1638320
>Ziggler can fuck off now. He neither works as a face or a heel. He should be future endeavored.

>>1635386
>tfw aj's winning title match will be shit cause of dean being dean

>>1639079
Dean botched the fuck out of that

Ambrose is a shit wrestler and a shit sports entertainer. Dolph should have gone over.

>>1639030
he's gonna job to maryse husband for 3 months.

Ziggler wasn't even the best spirit squad member

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>>1640474
>Unironically liking the failed lovechild of HBK over Dean

>>1638513
there is a brand split again
wwe title is on ambrose whos drafted to smackdown
so raw created the universal title

>>1640519
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIIUJdlaeps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU-yLcXfnGg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsYJwTl1boA

okay

>>1640837
>3 botches from nearly 4 years on the main roster

sure showed him bro

I don't like dean much but at least he tried giving the match some personality with the meme gestures, dolph put in the same effort he would give a midcard smackdown match

>>1638222
Yeah but it was a ref bump.

HOWEVER still remember that match Dean had with Seth were he connected DD and Seth was out longer than he was with the spear so DD is still more protected.

>>1638303
Honestly only AJ, but it wasn't in WWE.

Honestly the only good singles match of the night. Every other match was just the same finisher spam that's happened since HBK/Taker and Rock/Cena for le epic match feel

>>1641387
Now this is denial

>>1635910
It was building really well, the start was great, better than anything else on the show, but then the match just went nowhere, pretty sad.

>>1638949
I bought into the promos tbqhwy.

>Vince: Hey Dolph>>1641399
, if you dress up as Colonel Sanders I'll give you a title shot
>Dolph: say no more

Poor Dolph

It's funny watching all the Zigglerfag damage control as they try to blame the match sucking on Ambrose. Neither of them are that good. The fags on Squaredcircle seem to be under the impression that both of these guys are good workers when they're both very mediocre.

The only reason Ziggler isn't on the same tier of talent as Cena or Orton is that Ziggler never had a major injury. Cena and Orton both had extended time off the circuit, which gave crowds time to actually miss them; we've had Ziggler damn near every night for the past eight years and at this point whatever he does audiences are tired of seeing him.

>>1642232
They're both great workers, Dean moreso than Ziggler. The crowd didn't give a shit about the match and I can't blame them. They went for good spots but the reaction just wasn't there, which made the match infinitely worse than what it would have been if the crowd was hot.

I can't blame it on Dean or on Dolph, their match was poorly positioned on the card and Dolph Ziggler has been booked like a complete fucking joke until three weeks ago, which is not nearly enough time to rehab a guy from looking like a geek.

I don't even like Dolph Ziggler, but it's just a fact that there's no worker in this world who could make that match if they were positioned like Ziggler has been. I just feel sorry for both guys.

>>1642469
>no worker in this world who could make that match if they were positioned like Ziggler has been

Watch more wrestling, dipshit. There are dozens of guys outside of the WWE that could make that shit work. Even in WWE you have Seth, AJ, Cesaro, Joe, etc. Ziggler is not a "great worker" and neither is "Dean". You just have shit taste.

>>1642504
>Jasethy "I literally can't stop injuring people including myself" Rollins
>Gook worker
Loving every lel.

>>1640474
No Bray Wyatt should have gone over from the very beginning. Ziggler was the mistake and most of us knew it from day one.