>I'm here to make a Good lucha thing What did he mean by this?

>>1535124
>botches regularly
>has bacne
>not just not good, but actively off-putting as a speaker
>probably has to rely on big daddy Hunico backstage to protect him

>Gran Metalik was hired

Fire this pleb, he has no worth.

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>not doing good lucha things
He was much better and cooler as Samuray Del Sol.
WWE ruined a perfectly good wrestler. Like how they took Uhaa Nation and made him shitty.

>>1535144
>the "wwe makes wrestlers worse" meme
Maybe instead of indy wrestlers getting worse with the wwe they're getting exposed because of a larger work schedule and working on a bigger stage. Legitimately good wrestlers (Styles, Rollins) can come from other promotions and still excel in wwe.

>>1535144
>>1535159
There's some truth in it.
Uhaa is a legit case. They just don't let him do anything.
Kalisto isn't so much of one, because he's shit in his own right, through botching and an abject inability to speak.

>>1535159
>the "WWE doesn't make wrestlers worse" meme
Why is is then I can watch a Samuray Del Sol match and it's great and then I watch a 5 min Kalisto match and it sucks?
Don't act like WWE doesn't handcuff guys and tone them down to their detriment.

>>1535144
>On one instance WWE offered developmental training for Original Sin Cara to make
him comfortable in a WWE match booking but he refused and instead look up on his own lucha style.
As >>1535159 said it depends on wrestler, look what happened to ZSJ - he got exposed hard and fortunately for him it was on CWC. No higher ups other than Haitch could see his cons.

>>1535124
I LOVE MY FAAAAAAAAAAAANS

>>1535182
What happened to Saber Junior on the CWC?

GOD DAMMIT WOO

>>1535195
His style of wrestling didn't suit to televised show, technically he's good (obviously) but his transitions between move sets was shitty when you're watching it from TV.

>>1535204
How does it being on TV have anything to do with it?
It's not like the camera angles are massively different from any of the shit you'd see him do in countless British indies. The match just sucked, and his transitions were weak and particularly pointless.

>>1535169
Yes, wwe limits what people are allowed to say or do because its a publicly traded company, but someone who is actually really good can get over despite those handcuffs. Just look at Kevin Owens.