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What ruined his 2012 push? Was it the debut of the shield? How

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What ruined his 2012 push? Was it the debut of the shield? How big of a star would he have become if it hadn't had been for them?
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>>1471459
>What ruined his 2012 push
his lack of talet
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>>1471459
one of the biggest injustices in wrestling history
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He got buried by cm punk. No one has ever been as over as ryback since then. I'd post the video but I'm at work. Meathook clothesline shaked the hard cam
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Can someone explain why people here pretend this boring botch machine is so liked here?

It is just because Punk hates him? Because if that's the case why not just latch onto the Hardys? They hate Punk and are actually good.
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>>1471463
>implying Vince gives a fuck about talent
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>>1471459

Vince was like: "Ryback is getting very over! Let's put him in a Title match vs Punk!"

Then on the night of the PPV he was like: "Wait, Ryback can't win, Punk is supposed to hold the Title until The Rock returns".

Yeah. Ryback had great momentum and either should have been kept away from the Title scene or should have won the Title at HIAC.

He could have still been salvaged afterwards - he was still over - but then Vince just kinda let him lose all of his momentum and by the time WrestleMania came along (where Ryback lost to Henry...) it was already too late.
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When he got up before cena in that last man standing but they said Cena won anyway
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>>1471463
Hi Phil.
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>>1471471
Hardys are flippy vanilla midgets
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>>1471459
steroids
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>>1471470
Fuck off Ryan, you were never over and even if you were...>No one has ever been as over as ryback since then
Bryan Danielson would like to have a word with you.
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>>1471471
Punk doesn't even hate him Punk just called him out for being unsafe (which he was at the time)

/asp/ has a lot of autism and shitposters who will just cling to any contrarian opinion because they think parroting criticisms regardless of their validity or source makes them smart.
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>>1471463
hey phillip!
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>>1471488
Cena was meant to face Punk @ HIAC but was injured.
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>>1475111
They chose ryback cause he was over
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>>1471488
>>1475111
This. Also he was able to get over again as a heel against John Cena post WM 29, but BMJ does what he does best a buried him. He never recovered after losing to Cena.
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