/asg/ - Airsoft General

>>1282611

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>>1282711
Any of or all of the guns in Ghost in the shell series.
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell
Also im thinking of kitbashing airsoft and nerf bodies to make sci fi guns.

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>>1282711
>So what scifi spacefuture gun do you want to see made airsoft or made right?

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>>1282711
This is the closest thing I'll ever have to an airsoft br55 from halo.

>>1282902
If you're going with a Halo weapon, the DMR from Reach has a much nicer look.

>>1282763
I know redwolf had the Majors assualt rifle for like $1200

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>So what scifi spacefuture gun do you want to see made airsoft or made right?

Nth for bb cum

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>>1282711
A decent M41A would be cool, especially with the launcher actually functional. Maybe using those co2 shotgun shells...

But what I really want is this beauty.

>>1283338
Oh fuck off

>>1283367
Micro Taginns.

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>>1282763
Poseidon made a bunch of Seburo kits from a couple of Shirow's main works like Appleseed and GITS, but that was YEARS ago and they're next to impossible to find now.
Marushin also makes (or made; not too sure on the current production status on them and I can't get a straight answer from any place that sold them) a Mateba 2006M. They're a little hard to find, but easier than the Poseidon kits.

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Here's some new original content straight from Instagram. What do you slavafils think of sumrak?

>>1283655
DUDE STALKER LMAO

But yeah Sumrak suits are pretty comfy.

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>>1283370
You're just not high level enough

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>>1282711
Can't beat getting a classic

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Quick! Post items from your loadout that you can GUARANTEE no one else has!

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>>1283787

>>1283649
I regret passing up a seburo kit when i was at a comic con 4 years ago. The mateba is high on my list for my airsoft collection.

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>>1283787

:^)

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>>1283787
DTP SR-15 metal receiver.

>>1283787
You got the Father Mask!? Shit, I bet you leveled up dex, fegt.

In all seriousness, where did you get it?

>>1283787

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>>1283827
Goddammit forgot the picture>>1283787

>>1283787
my entire UCP loadout :^)

>>1283672
Gtfo 811. No one likes you.

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>>1283822
I had to get it special-ordered from this fine lass on Etsy: https://www.etsy.com/shop/SilverIceDragon

I also got my Ring Of Favour & Protection from MisterSugarCube on Shapeways: http://www.shapeways.com/shops/johndaguerra
The Polished Brass looks best.

Black rail on tan helmet how shit will it look

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>>1283696
I'll never understand why nobody has made an airgun out of the G11, it's essentially a large box, leaving you open for all the tolerances and dimensions you need for functionality (a high-speed motor), as well as a large battery pack.
Magazines would be easy, one long single column, and you can just keep two spares next to it on the gun.

You'd figure someone would have made some AEGs in small numbers for collectors, larpers and cosplayers would eat that shit up.

>>1284313
R&D would be too high for overhead and labor, unless they mark up the items super high, they'd lose more than they'd make, I believe someone else has also made the same case as you and someone else before me also said something similar

>>1284303
>tan

Shit

>>1284313
>is literally a box which could work with a P90 gearbox
Could it work?

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Wouldn't mind seeing a proper full metal GBB one of these.

>>1284339
Super shit though? Crye doesn't have any tan rails in stock and no estimated production date for them either

>>1284375
Hudson made one, but was at least a decade ago and it had a plastic build.
https://youtu.be/gYYKd5vMm10?t=1m29s

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>>1282711
A laser rifle would be pretty neat.

>inna match
>it's an objective match,have to sit around in a building for 5 minutes for you to win,but unlike koth you have to capture another enemy objective until one team reaches the end
>we were pushing hard,the enemy already held their objective >they were holding to a chokepoint on a concrete building
>have to detach a few people to make a flanking squad
>hang around in the back and give covering fire while they move up
>after 3 minutes,no sign of flank squad,they were wither taken out or held up,so we decided to rush up
>glorious brazen headlong charge on a building,most of us fall but we still push on
>i was in the back so i was able to enter the building
>clear it out at almost the 5 minute mark.everyone was shouting ura
>suddenly we get pelted by bbs
>its the goddamn flanking squad not knowing we hold the shit now

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>>1282711
A friend of mine made a gun from Borderlands.

>>1284501
Impressive but needs some paint on it, Borderlands guns aren't that clean.

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>>1284514
If he wanted something with with bright colors, he would have probably just bought a nerf gun. Besides, the original one is gray / brown. It's not a perfect copy, but he's happy with and it looks miles better than whatever the next best local custom gunsmiths here have done.

>>1284410
The ergonomics of that thing always bugs me
Seems painful to hold

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>>1284618
It could use some moidifcation

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Fucking TM back at it again with the cool shit.

>>1284636
OUUUUHHH OHHH AHHH
that's pretty nice

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>>1284636
Everyone loves John Wick so much, they can't resist.

>>1284668
Didn't Marui even sponsor a John Wick sabage game recently?

>>1283787
My custom made brassards for MSF kit.

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>>1284636
>Kel tec

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more hyped for this desu

what the fuck? Why does "T B H" turn into desu?

>>1285178
Word filter introduced by our new and hip 4chan owners iirc

>>1285182
Fucking gook

>>1285174
But we already have the ASG one, that's almost entirely VSR10 compatible internally.

>>1285259
ASG? Its VFC mate.
TM comes out with this its going to mean aftermarket upgrades for days. The VFC is not 100% compatible, no 90 degree trigger for example.

>>1285269
>OEM: VFC
fug
>the VFC is not 100% compatible
I said that. All the important stuff is, though.

>>1285277
Well, if you are going to run it at 550 fps (.20) you are going to need a 90 degree trigger unless you want to change the sears out like they are hotswap.

>>1285122
t. never held a Kel-Tec

>inb4 buh I've held their cheap pocket pistols
Not the same.

Hey /asg/, in your opinion, what is the most overrated airsoft gun brand? They don't have to be flat out bad, just way too hyped up.

>>1285354
>Systema
>Tokyo Marui
There, I said it

>>1285354
TM. Everyone acts like TM products are flawless.

>>1285354
>KWA
Way too proprietary to be worth the premium price you pay.

I'm waiting for my final to start and a guy keeps walking past in full kryptec

Is it one of you fucks?

>>1285354
Tokyo Marui, they're fucking boring.

>>1285539
What do you mean by boring?

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>>1285538
Wew lad

>>1285538
>not wearing full flecktarn
Its like he wants to be spotted

>>1285538
>>1285570
Who the fuck goes around wearing any sort of camo?
Is that an American thing?

>>1285630
yes

>>1285630
Yep. Gotta be ready for that government takeover at all times. Sadly he is not, because he chose kryptek

>>1284313
It's definitely because of its obscurity/novelty and the fact that its looks fat and weird to handle compared to regular guns. I'd say that if reunification were stalled enough to allow general issue of the guns throughout the Bundeswehr, TM might have pumped out a crappy prototype or something.

>>1285630
No, normally people do not go out in full camo attire unless they're military service members. People wear camouflaged patterned clothes though, and its not an American thing. How sheltered are you?

>>1285686
>People wear camouflaged patterned clothes though
No, no they don't. Not in non-American countries anyways and much less wearing a entire BDU as if it was completely normal to do so.
No one said anything negative about your country. USA has a military culture that other countries lack so it's normal that someone not familiar with it might ask if it is an "American thing" because it is indeed an American thing. Chill.

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>>1285354
All brands are overrated by their respective fanboys, but these are the ones that immediately spring to mind:

>Tokyo Marui
>Systema
>CYMA

And that's not even getting into the sordid world of HPA/GBB (the users of which are by and large paedophiles, or the otherwise sexually deviant).

>>1285763
>>1285686
People were camo print pants occasionally and hipsters will wear military jackets but nobody wears matching sets unless your in a real uniform or you're that guy

>>1285763
>Not in non-American countries anyways
Yet I see that shit around Europe.

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>>1285789
>hipsters will wear military jackets
I love this
But yeah 9 times out of 10 people are just hicks that like camo and wear full sets of it
The worst is when it's realtree

>>1285795
VERY rarely compared to USA.
>but you said no one!
I'm clearly talking about insignificant amounts of people but act like you need everything spelled out perfectly if that makes you feel better.
The last person I saw wearing camo (only pants) was in March and only because the guy left the field and came straight to where I was. Prior to that I can't even remember the last time I saw someone wearing camo anything.

Why everyone talks so much shit about kryptec? Everyone keeps talking shit about it but I would assume the people that designed it know what they were doing when they designed it.

>>1285803
I got a story about realtree
>First time out snowboarding last season
>At a small hill because Ontario sucks
>Middle aged guy and his girlfriend are learning to ski
>both of them are wearing full realtree snow gear
Probably the funniest/ugliest thing I have ever seen

>>1285840
Overhyped tacticool bullshit that has it's job done better by other designs. Just because your parents designed you doesn't mean they knew what they were doing, clearly.

>>1285856
>Just because your parents designed you
But my parents didn't design me. No parent can. Not yet anyways.
>Overhyped
If everyone talks shit about it how can it be overhyped, again?
>tacticool
Just like the rest of the camos out there?

I've unironically worn my Gorka suit as an oversuit for skiing before as well as the jacket alone. Thankfully it doesn't look like some camo or military jacket so people just think I'm wearing some obscure light jacket or snowsuit.

>>1285840
It'd that kryptec kooks try hard as ruck and doesn't belong on a college campus

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>>1285864

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>>1285864
>But my parents didn't design me. No parent can. Not yet anyways.
Genetics+How they raised you. Stop disappointing them.
>If everyone talks shit about it how can it be overhyped, again?
Marketing=Hype
>Just like the rest of the camos out there?
Some camo just exists. They are there to be effective and do a job. Kryptec is for the civie who wants to feel like they're an operator but doesn't know shit.
>>1285873
It really doesn't matter what you wear as long as you don't look like a retard in it. This goes for normal clothes as well.

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>>1285878
Are the cans Kryptek too?

>>1285570
BOY HE BOUTTA DO IT

>>1285630
It's more of a Southerner thing, or people that like to pretend they're Southerners.

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>>1285902
Sadly not.
I think I found something even better though.

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>>1285880
>blaze camo

>>1285941
It's obviously meant for hunters, but that still doesn't make it any less silly.

>>1285943
where the fuck would you hunt with that?

the gates of Hell?

>>1285958
Hunters wear orange so they don't get shot by other hunters, and so it's easier to see each other. Although they don't wear full orange, just things like a vest or hat.

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>>1285933

>>1285933
is the drink realtree?

>>1285763
Stfu retard. Camouflage has transcended military usage and is commonly found in clothes worn by ordinary people.

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>>1283787
3,5-14x50 Leupold replica with flashkill (did not have it at the time I made the pic).. At least in my small country I haven't seen anyone with this.

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>>1285978
>Stfu retard

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>>1285982
I have one on my M14, but it's not Leupold branded.

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>>1285122
Zim-Zam is selling his Neighbourhood overwatch piece, should ASG collect for it?

>>1285122
The Kel Tec dog meme is still a thing?

>>1285880
>Three of its designs were submitted as part of the US Army Camouflage Improvement Effort Field Trials of 2012, meeting the US DOD's requirement for patterns capable of performing in desert (Nomad), temperate (Mandrake) and transitional (Highlander) environments.

When you can design camo that is found effective by the military you can judge other designs.

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>>1285990
also using on M14 :)

>>1286004
>I-if you can't make something you can't say anything is shit!!

>>1285978
>commonly found in clothes worn by ordinary people
No it's not commonly found.

>>1286014
You can't be a good judge when you don't even know what characteristics are useful and which aren't. Your judgement is shit. Please, tell me what design characteristics make L.E.A.F. pattern ineffective?

>>1286016
If you left your basement and walked around places where other people congregated you'd notice the variety of patterns on people's clothes.

>>1286021
>>1286026
Kek I love when autistic retards get upset here.

>>1286033
>Oh no I'm wrong, time to make ad-hominem insults.

>>1286034
>Krypbaby starts crying

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>>1286016
Camo is a pretty common thing in streetwear, but not Kryptek. Mainly Flecktarn, M81, and 6 color.

>>1286043
You can't say anything that proves Kryptek is shit. Keep hating a successful company, loser.

>>1285880
Ungulates see blaze orange as greyish brown colors. Making it effective safety equipment and camouflage.

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>>1285299
Enjoy your ksg breaking in multiple locations

>>1285277
>Implying vfc isn't shit.
You spent 350+ dollars on one of their AEG's, only to have the piston strip with an 11.1. you're pretty much only paying for the body. Maybe the rail system if it has one.

>>1285354
Marui, vfc (pronounced vfshit), classic assy, and systema. Also polar stars, and Daytona guns.

>>1286116
not OP, but my friends VFC M16's gear box legit broke clean, the shell near the piston head just snapped off.

>>1285958
Deer and shit don't see the orange really, so it'll still blend in with the environment.

Though on the other hand, fuckers don't have any business opening fire at an unidentified shape or movement, that really should be drilled into people's heads.

>>1286118
t. Poor person

>>1286118
>if its expensive, its overrated

>>1286119
>be me
>work in airsoft shop
>everyone rants and raves about how good VFC is
> people bring in VFC guns come in all the time to get fixed with:
>stripped pistons
>bad motors
>wires that are stripped to shit
>fucked hop ups

Their guns are trash. Hence why I call them vfshit.

>>1286123
> i've had classic army, several marui guns, several vfc guns.

> one of them did anything special

>get red star akm
>shot farther than all of them
>lasted longer
>was more durable
>cost $180

I'll take my chances.

>>1286135
>>1286130
You aren't using memearrows correctly. lurk more.
I do agree with you though. VFC, CA and Marui do have shitty internals. Only Marui has a proper spring to compensate for the lack of durability.

>>1286130
I heard from a great fixer friend of mine, that SHS parts are the biggest fucking scams ever. Cheap "high quality" goods, that like to break every moment. Can you confirm?

>>1286160
Their gears are hit and miss. It's really rolling the dice with them. With that said, there hop up buckings are pretty nice. Not the greatest, but decent.

Their springs are also pretty good too. Once they settle in, they stay that way with very little variation in FPS.

>>1286160
SHS is a chinese brand so the QC obviously isn't perfect. You might get good parts that last long or bad parts that break very shortly. I personnaly haven't had any issues with SHS parts if we exclude the infamous old Gen2 gear sets. Gen 1, 3 and 4 have gears have worked flawlessly in the guns I've worked with. Of course a bad tech can break any part no matter how high quality.

>>1286135
Too bad you couldn't afford a Daytona or p* then

>>1286217
>thinking my life revolves around airsoft
I remember when I was 14 too.

For the amount of money Id spent on that garbage, I'd rather just buy a real gun(s)…

>>1286217
>wanting to carry an air tank.
>having a hose to get snagged on shit.
>forgetting the reasons why escort guns became obsolete.

HPA is the fedora of airsoft.

All these retards talking shit about brands when comparing to cymas and dont realize that V3's by fucking design are tougher than V2.

If you aint a sad sack of poor shit VFC has top level externals and trademarks, some are better than G&P, CA no shit, if you buy a TM era CA (before 08) they aint rated for over 350 fps, now for an echo1 money the CA will offer more features and just requires a bit of tuning, and TM, like are you guys fucking braindead? Youre talking shit about aegs that have been out since 91' stop being a fucking poorfag shit and try their new gen stuff, suprise suprise its fucking metal body too.

>>1286242
>>1286249
t. Poor people
Keep trying to justify why, the real reason is that you're poor

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>>1286249
t. Marui Man

>>1286242
not him but
>if you have a relatively expensive replica/system means your life revolves around airsoft
You are trying too hard buddy. And who the fuck considers HPA systems expensive anyways? You can buy the stuff in a week's worth of work ffs even if you go the expensive route.

>>1286250
Why are you so asshurt? When I go on that cost $150 in some cases like a cm028, last longer than a VFC, there's an issue.

I never said anything about G&p. In fact, I'm actually very fond of G&P guns. Like the TM ak that takes proprietary mags? You're the type 89 that is fuck hard to find parts for? There Is a reason why you don't see those guns being used. Price doesn't always equal quality in airsoft.

>>1286260
Mad he can't buy real guns yet.

>>1286287
Oh, and I know CM028's are like $90. It only proves my point more.

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>>1274054
I know it's NBB, but KJW apparently makes one.
http://www.evike.com/products/63464/

>>1286004
>The "critics must be artists" fallacy

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>>1286160
>SHS
Their hi-torque motors are decent (the wolf on the sticker makes it that little bit extra torque-y as well), as are their gears, but I've had a spring from them that wasn't so good.

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Anyone here waiting on some goodies
Just bought myself a new gun after you all made fun of my starter.

pic related

>insert mag
>take safety off
>press down trigger
why must AEGs be so boring?

>>1286385
Because they have no tactile feedback.

>>1286348
>Anyone here waiting on some goodies
2x2 Mag pouch, Hydration carrier and bladder, sling attachment(mine broke this weekend) and a 2-point sling because I'm fed up with 1-point, dumbbell dummy grenade, suppressor to hide the longer barrel I'm installing soon, chink red dot, PEQ, 2 more midcaps and a Baofeng.
Still considering what BDU to buy since I need it for some milsim-type events near me and trying to find someone that would lend me a scope to see if I use it enough to justify buying one.

>>1286004
Well to be fair they did choose UCP....

>>1286287
My airshit gun cost more than your real one lmao
What kind of car do you drive? Let's see how poor you are

>>1286415
I was thinking about getting a scope to replace the holo sight on my gun but that would probably run me at least 700 cad including my gun.

>>1286046
I've never seen 6 colour before
And I can't recall seeing flecktarn but I live in the US I know it's plentiful in Europe

>>1286443
Flecktarn is easy to find in surplus stores in the US. I can buy a full set of BDUs for like 30 bucks.
Too bad the most Gucci patterns like auscam, cadpat, and any ruskie patterns are impossible to find.

>>1286437
If I finally buy one I'll most probably use a flip-to-side mount and use the scope to help me spot people and confirm hits.
I don't need anything too fancy either, some chink 4x or 6x scope will probably do the trick.

If anyone reading this can recommend one or give a link I'll be thankful.

>>1286456
We have this thing called the internet nowadays. It lets you buy virtually anything.

>>1286287
I'll buy a real gun when someone starts organizing events around shooting other people with non-lethal rounds. Until then I'll stick with airsoft. HPA as a platform is superior to AEG in many ways but if you think that the hose is a big problem, it's your loss then. For a competent tech they proably aren't anything too special, but for the Mediocre Mike it's a godsend.

People spend lot more money on even more retarded things than toy guns. Think about people who deliberately get themselves addicted to poison or audiofiles who spend thousands of dollars into cables and other snakeoil shit.

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>>1286338
>KJW
>non-blowback gas pistol
>compact model
>extended, threaded (orange) barrel
T-thanks but no thanks.

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>>1286467
>I'll buy a real gun when someone starts organizing events around shooting other people with non-lethal rounds.
>tfw simunition games will never be a thing
Why even live.

>>1286463
I was saying in stores, obviously.

>>1286476
Find a better store?

I know a place in bongistan where you can get virtually anything, clapistan must have places like that too.

>>1286475
There exist places where you shoot at each other with simunition.

Thing is, you have to sign like a briefcase of waivers and agreements and shit to even do it, and then you're looking at quite a bit of risk.

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>>1286424
>thinks spending more makes it better
>shoots maybe slightly farther than just about any stock gun
>any legit field has an FPS Cap, so I'm not even going to piss off that rope.
>making a dick measuring contest out of toy guns
>thinking anyone takes this shit seriously.

It's all right, kid you'll get off mommy's tit one day. Stay high level.

>>1286046
>Supreme
This meme brand is still around?

>>1286467
I wasn't comparing real guns to airsoft at all. I was saying I'd rather spend that money on real guns and enjoy those than a toy gun that doesn't really do much more than other toy guns.

I'm not saying spending money on drugs or anything else is a smart idea. I just said rather spend my money on other things.

>>1286492
Yeah, I meant as in it will never be a thing like airsoft.
It's a real shame too because simunition/force on force is truly the closest there is to real combat without the killing and dying part.

>the only complaint about HPA is that it's expensive
every time

>>1286531
B-but muh brrrrt
Muh cheaters

>>1286547
>friend always whines about HPA with those exact reasons
>the only people who have HPA guns are in a small group or are close to 30yo

>>1286496
Ironically enough FPS limits benefit HPA systems more than anything.

>>1286560
how so?

>>1286586
Not that guy but I'm pretty sure HPA systems can change their fps at will

>>1286586
Due to the amount of air used to propel the bb out of the barrel.
Heavier things accelerate slower, thus the heavier bb will take more time accelerating in the barrel and using the excess air to gain more acceleration before flying out. Same applies if you use a longer barrel.
Basically with HPA systems you can pass the chrono at [email protected] then you can load heavier pellet for a increase in FPS.

>>1286614
However, on a properly run site that actually checks the joules, and makes you use a lock to stop you fucking with your FPS, none of this is an issue.

>>1286616
Greedy sites will only give you a slap on the wrist if you are regular to them

>>1286586
Muh joule creep

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>>1286004
Kryptek is objectively inferior to multicam since it doesn't break up the wearer silhouette as much and doesn't blend in in as many environment, and if you're going for a wooded area with high treetop vegetation atacs-au is better

>>1286607
There's nothing stopping you from cheating with AEGs as well. With HPA guns it's just tad bit easier. Some fields seal the regulators or force tournament locks.
If a ref happens to make a surprise check, you'd still have to take your PC/backpack off and adjust the regulator which isn't really something an average joe can do without being noticed.

>>1286625
>>1286614
You can abuse joule creep with AEGs as well. Only incompetent refs chrono guns with 0,2g bbs.

Your FPS won't increase though. It's the energy that increases. You Clapistanians should learn to use joules in your everyday language and maybe some day you might have competent refs on your fields.

>>1286637
How can you significantly abuse Joule creep with AEG when the amount of air being used is tied to the cylinder?
>Only incompetent refs chrono guns with 0,2g bbs
I agree.
>You Clapistanians
But I'm European :^(

>>1286653
1Tonne from ASF
>A&K SR25 (Semi Auto)
>Piston Weight: 100gm
>Spring: M190 cut down
>Inner Barrel Length: 205mm x 6.01mm
>0.2gm bb’s = 420fps = 1.63 joules (Hopup Off)
>0.45gm bb’s =392fps =3.2 joules (Hopup On)
>Joule Gains = 1.57 joules
>Note: This setup will put massive strain on your gearbox casing and internals.

>But I'm European :^(
step it up fampai

>>1286663
Too much hassle (and probably expensive too) just for the sake of gaining a measly 1.5J and a big possibility of your replica blowing up in your face mid-game.
And I don't think all AEGs can run that setup anyways.

I don't even know why you quoted me to begin with but hey.

>>1286716
It's still lot cheaper than PolarStar and definitely not a very big hassle for a decent tech. Pistons are cheap and very simple to swap. Sure you probably don't want to shoot 40RPS with that setup which is a pro for HPAs.
I wouldn't call 100% increase a measly one either. 1,6J is very common field limit but 3,2J is the same as 590FPS with 0,2g bb. It's pretty rare for fields to allow even BASRs to shoot that hot.

>>1286509
Yeah they're still a thing.

>>1286287
>people still dont get V3 gearboxes by design are better and tougher than v2.

>>1286799
>It's still lot cheaper than PolarStar
Definitely, but it's still rather expensive just for the gimmick of creeping.
What I'm trying to say is that even if HPA is relatively expensive, you are paying for all the benefits of it and that includes effortless and 'inexpensive' creeping among many other things.
>I wouldn't call 100% increase a measly one either.
Yeah, shouldn't have said measly. 1.5J gain is definitely good. It's just that with HPA people are reporting gains of 0.6J just by going from .20 to .28

>>1286839
>people don't get that a gun that costs as much as a vfc shouldn't be getting it's ass kicked by a gun with a zinc gearbox and the cheapest internals available.

>>1286496
>slightly farther
>doesn't understand basic physics

>>1283787
>Being utter cancer

le legendz nvr die rite bro?

>>1286926
>doesn't understand that I actually play airsoft and seen stock shit tier guns shoot just as far as some of the "high end" guns like vfshit and HPA guns.

>>1286932
>stock shit tier guns shoot just as far as some of the "high end" guns
i don't believe you

>>1286947
I don't care if you do or don't. I've seen it, and had a gun that did it.

>>1284623
That guy's body needs some modification, holy shit.

>>1286956
>muh anecdote

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>>1286348
That rail... Looks stupid as fuck.

>>1286959
>muh denial.

>>1286963
>muh anecdote is above all
post proofs

>>1286918
>Crying about how he bought a first gen vfc and that his rebranded cyma shoots better than a gun made before 08'.

K retard.

>>1286961
Yeah I like rails that go right up the flash hider, but I agree that wire cutter rails look kind of weird.

>>1286969
>denying the fact that I work in an airsoft shop and see vfshits come in all the time with the issues I already listed.

Keep trying :)

I've got that M41A from Evike. It's pretty, but cumbersome, and heavy as fuck.
Certainly wouldn't want to skirmish with it.

>>1286932
Yea sure. Stock 1,2 - 1,4J chink rifle is going to shoot just as far accurately as 2-3J HPA DMR with IERZABCD-Hop.
High end is relative. I've seen a lot of mediocre guns called ''high end''. Yet again, most people aren't very good at tuning their guns.

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>>1286979
>he just now tells us he works at an airsoft shop

>>1286965
>muh actual experience with both types of guns trumps your opinion.

Why don't you look on YouTube and watch videos of people doing a test with vfshit, and some with other guns? Preferably the same reviewer if possible.

Next time I play, I'll have to get some video of it.

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>vfshit
>vfshit
>vfshit
>vfshit

>>1286979
I run one of the VFC factories and I guarantee our guns are the best on the market.

>>1286986
>tells the issues I see on a weekly basis

I bet when you go to a mechanic you try to tell him how to fix the cars, and when you go to the dr, you do the diagnosing, and surgery.

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>takes the cm040 meme too seriously

>>1286994
>implying you're not full of shit
>saying the same thing every company says

>>1286979
Nice try Oppenheimer.

>>1287021
Get bent. It's not my fault you have buyers remorse and a gun with a stripped piston after 5000 rounds, and a shot motor by 10,000.

>>1287016
>Implying your claims aren't equally full of shit
Yea VFC internals were never the greatest, but don't think your posts carry any more weight than others' if you only claim to be a big shot.

>>1287029
I'm not claiming to be a big shot. I'm claiming what I see every goddamn week. I hear people rent and rave about how good VFC is, but yet there's a pile of guns which stripped pistons, shot motors, and bad electrical connections.

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Let's try to escape the autism here with some pictures of your gats/kits/action shots.

>>1287043
>>1287026
So sorry your customers are so stupid they cant do a 5m piston change.

I dont have buyers remorse. I just dont blindfully praise a gun based on the vfc and complain about issues that dont exist since 2010.

>>1287043
>I'm a proffessional, therefor my claim is better than yours
There's nothing proving your claim that you're a proffessional currently. Maybe take a picture of that pile you mentioned. If you want to get all fancy, the company you allegedly work for probably has some sort of archive of receipts. Why don't you make a nice pie chart featuring the repairs the company you allegedly work for has done.

How do you know that I'm not the CEO of VFC? Business is booming and the retailers keep buying our guns, so we must be doing something right, eh. Why not just keep doing it? Let's not fix what ain't broken.

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>>1287064
Okay, Anon.

>>1287064
>lets see some pics
>doesn't post a worthwhile pic of himself

>>1287072
I'm not sorry at all. I laughed my ass off when they are praising them one week, and then next week they're back in wondering why the internals are falling apart. For a gun that cost as much as it does, it sure has a lot of problems.

It's also strange how the date keeps changing. Before it was 2008, now it's 2010? The ones I had were 2012
And 2014.

>>1285814
And you know significant amounts of Americans wear full-body camo how? Oh that's right, you're talking out of your ass. Rednecks might wear a camo hat or pants at most, besides that, only Military guys near bases and the severely Autistic go out in full BDU's.

>>1287077
If you do work for VFC, you obviously have a bias right off the gate. I'm sure the people that are CEOs at G&G, kwa, g&p and ICS would say the same thing about their products.

>implying the CEO of any of those companies would be wasting their time on /asp/.

All that aside, you make it seem like I have something to gain by bashing VFC. All I did was state what I've observed. Everyone else got asshurt over it.

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>>1287064
This is all I've got for an action shot.
>tfw haven't been to a game in weeks
Now that I finally have a job I NEED to go play again.

>>1287090
Nice reading comprehension :^)

You had other brands mixed up when I said 2008 didnt I?

Kek, still complaining about the beaten to shit vfc you bought used cause you couldn't afford new? Ok.

>>1287064
But I don't actually play airsoft

I've been trying to decide between the Krytac PDW and the VFC Hk416c as my next gun.

Any thoughts/ reasons to buy one over the other?

>>1287113
It's pretty funny how guns from 2008 are kicking the ass of Vfc guns being made today.

You're an obvious VFC fanboy that will sit there and talk about how his VFC that no longer has any vfc internals is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You can say here and try to attack me on a personal level, not knowing what Vfc I had, when I bought it, how long I used it, what battery I used in it, or the guns I have to fix on the reg because they can't even handle a 9.6 for too long before self destructing.

>>1287130
The krytac by a longshot. I've only ever had to fix one of them, and the reason was the users fault.

>>1287130
Krytac has a shit receiver, VFC has a shit gearbox.
Take your pick.

>>1287109
Can I sit in your lap?

>>1287158
You want to sit in my lap?

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>>1287300
That was the implication, yes.

Hi /asg/. Newbie here. I just read the newbie pastebin but is it okay to just go buy a cheap walmart gun to just shoot at cans & shit in my backyard?

>>1287382
You can, but you'll be disappointed with its range, power, and accuracy.

>>1287382
A pellet rifle would be better for that.

>>1287347
But why?

>>1287434
>The gun looks comfy.
>I want to be comfy.
>Replace the gun with me.
>I'm now comfy.
Sounds reasonable.

>>1287496
I'm probably smaller than you which would make it a little weird.

>>1287081
> pictures of your gats/kits/action shots

>>1286345
The engine may be good, but their pinion is fucked up as it is..

>>1287770
How so?

Is there any dedicated site in yurop I should go to if I want to sell my asg stuff or do I just go with jewbay?

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>>1287504
I don't know about that anon. I'm not a big guy.

>>1288004
Facebook?

>>1288077
Not recommended, you can get banned for that

>>1288095
This and Ive tried on one and noone really bothers with those. Sold my chink bootleg ACOG but M16 is a no go.

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>What will your next purchase be /asg/ (excluding consumables)?

I'm looking to get hold of a Sig550.

>>1288115
JG released a new line this time full metal

>>1288115
When I get home in a couple of months I plan to buy:
>Dan Wesson 715
>Combat shirt
>Peltor Sporttacs
>LiPo mod my MP7
And that's it, I'll see how much use I will find for my 40mm Madbull grenades and Thunder-Bs, if they're not deadweight I'll buy another XMPB4 and another Thunder-B, maybe a dummy nade for kicks too.

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>>1284636
>KSG
Neat.

I wish they'd just make a BHP mk.3 (I know WE make a shitty old one with a tangent sight), but I wonder if that boat's sailed, seems like TM are concentrating on more modern firearms these days.

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I've got an Op tomorrow
Anyone else have things going on this weekend?

>>1288162
Whats wrong with lizardbro over there?

>>1288115
Gonna buy a bunch of shit this weekend for an upcoming OP.
>Nice backpack
>goggles
>AK74 magazines
>several batteries

>>1288164
Tail injury that lead to his cells producing multiple tail ends

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>>1288115
JG 608-7
Battle axe mag converter
Dytac hexmags
4 fast mag pouches
Viper belt
2 pistol fast mag pouches
Tm usp compact
2 extra mags
Safariland style holster
Drop offset
Pouch for smokes
Dump pouch

UKARA next game...

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>>1288130
There is certainly a demand for this, must be something fucked up on the business side.

>>1287103
>only Military guys near bases and the severely Autistic go out in full BDU's
so basically 50% of the USA citizens

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>>1288168

>>1288249
I'd get goggles with more ventilation honestly unless you live in a desert.
I've had a pair of those and they can fog easily if its humid out.

>>1288260
Anything you'd recommend?

>>1288265
ESS Thermalpanes if you have around 50-70 bucks

>>1287504
I got something you can sit on

>>1288260
He can make a hole or cut a piece of the foam present near the temples for ventilation and they'll never fog again.
Or use that anti-fog spray can thing if he likes that model specifically.

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>>1288162
WW2 milsim tomorrow. The hype is real.

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>>1288187
I'd want a Mk. III as a GBB, but cut for a shoulder stock like the Chinese ones. The stock-holster made in a plastic to match the grips.

I also want it with a fire-selector and with extended magazines.

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>>1287064
>inb4 shitforce 1911 tac

this is babby's first gas blowback and I enjoy using it

my primary gat is an ICS G36

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>>1288187
>>1288324
I want a stock for my Stetchkin as well as a suppressor.

No troll


Why not get real guns? Why airsofy?

>>1288338
Because gun laws here and you cant shoot faggots with real guns.

>>1288338
Because simunition is expensive and a pain to deal with legally.

>>1288338
Shooting people to death can be a bloody mess. Literally and bureaucratic-wise.

>>1288338
Legality.

I'd love to have Colt Commando rebarreled for .300BLK, and a Beretta 84FS to carry around in my pocket, but laws around here make that difficult, if not impossible.

Spring Offensive is this weekend, boys. Hold onto your butts.

>>1287504
How big are you?

>>1288162
We might or might not go to a field. Chances are we will but it's not confirmed yet.
No OP though, just your average CTF and similar games.

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>>1288065
Im just a small cute girl.
>>1288390
5'6" and only 136 lbs, trying to lose more weight or turn it into muscle actually
>>1288291
Is it a chair?

>>1288406
Flecktrap?

>>1288406
Why don't you die already so we don't have to deal with your faggotrism?

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>>1288414
Ara ara~.
>>1288411
Who else?

>>1288338
Is it not obvious? Do people seriously not understand that shooting people with actual firearms isn't very fun?

>>1288419
Would.

>>1288419
>it's everyone's fault for responding to my posts, it's not my fault for showing up
You seriously should consider leaving, not posting as obviously you or not posting whatsoever. The threads are a thousand times better when you are not around, as proven by the threads with you not fagging the place up after I dared you to do so (even though you couldn't handle the lack of attention and came back in 2~ days).
Or at least get a trip so we can filter you.

>>1288437
Jesus Christ just don't respond you autist. He's going to post more if you respond to him.

>>1288442
>implying that's going to stop him or the rest of the people in this thread from fagging up the place
>implying you didn't just confirm what I greentexted
You are probably him falseflagging, too.

>>1288338
Let me shoot you with a real gun.

Will you call your hit? Maybe, but probably not when youre dead.

>>1288437
>>1288446
Hora hora, someone has a crush~.
>>1288425
Would?

>>1288480
Would.

As in, I would fuck that.

Anyone have experience with umbrella armory custom gun work? Im considering getting a E&L AK-74MN from evike and getting them to ship to umbrella armory and then shipped to me.

>>1288514
What do the umbrella guys do, and how much do they charge?

Im going to drill holes in my ak pattern's handguard so i can screw in a picatinny rail for a reflex. Tell me exactly why i shouldnt

>>1288547
It's going to look really fucking stupid and it's not going to sit straight. If you want a tacticool AK, buy a tacticool handguard.

>>1288446
You're making it worse you retard.

>>1288562
>Just don't respond you autist. He's going to post more if you respond to him.

You boys are cute when you get angry just saying
>tfw youll never subdue an angry anon by petting him

>>1288514
From the few videos I've seen, they seem to know their shit. Just remember that it's a common sales tactic to try to make the customer want to buy more than he actually needs. Other stores are also very likely to sell the same parts for lower prices.
What do you want of your gun?

>>1288534
Essentially ship them your gun, give them a max budget and give a summary of what aspects of the gun you want upgraded most (trigger response, rate of fire, accuracy and range) and they'll do the best upgrades they can for the price. Ive heard some good things about them but was wondering if anyone here had some experience with them.

>>1288578
That sounds like an amazing way to get ripped the fuck off.

What's the base gun, what's your upgrade budget?

>>1288577
Basically looking for the best range and accuracy possible that can be gotten out of a 477mm length AK firing at 400fps. Mosfet would be nice too for muh trigger response. Rate of fire is less important for me but i'd like 20ish rps.

>>1288581
Possibly, but i've seen them get pretty good reviews. Base gun is a E&L either AK105, AK74MN or AKS74MN. Upgrade budget is like 500.

>>1288586
>>1288590

Literally buy a lipo and MAYBE a high torque motor, I don't know how the stock e&l ones are.

>>1288586
477mm barrel length rather

>>1288592
this and a good shim job on the gb will get you through just fine

>>1288550
>it's not going to sit straight
thats why im going to level the rails first

>>1288592
Already going to run a lipo in it. I still am going to upgrade it past the motor because I know the accuracy and range can be pushed past what the stock internals can achieve. If I wanted a stock gun i'd just keep my elite force Tar

>>1288605
with the amount of money you're willing to spend you could almost go HPA.

>>1288605
What upgrades do you think you actually need beyond a lipo, a motor and a decent shim job?

>>1288614
Mosfet, high tier bucking and barrel like prometheus. Although it might be a meme I might give flat or rhop a try as well. On top of that could also do some upgrades to the piston and cylinder for better airseal and durability. Most of this might be unneeded but should make some performance gains.
>>1288613
I have an irrational hatred for HPA. I think that components to a gun should be contained in or on the gun and not elsewhere.

>>1288632
I understand the hatred for HPA because it causes a lot of problems up here in the northeast, and I've personally been overshot to hell by someone shooting hot while staffing a pseudo-national up here, but there's no denying that it is the future of this sport.

A tightbore barrel will give you all the range you really need. And I've heard of a lot of people having bad luck with mosfets murdering their electronics. Just fair warning.

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hey airshitters, looking at picking up an hk416 and a meusoc 1911, looking at tm hk416 recoil shock and night warrior, thoughts/advice pls

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What's everyone's opinion on carrying melee weapons? I wanna do a melee only or centric loadout for shits and giggles. I would dress up like a chinese chef and dual wield butcher knives. Or maybe dress up like the pyro and use 40mm launcher and toy axe.

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Could any kind anons tell me their experience with LCT?

I'll be in the market for an RPK in the next few months, and while I've heard good things about them, it's invariably been from sellers or people that don't own them.

>>1288645
Not really answering your question, but I know probably a dozen people who have owned Cyma RPKS and had fantastic luck with them, including myself.

>>1288640
>I would dress up like a chinese chef and dual wield butcher knives

We need more people like you in the field.

>>1288654
I'm half asian so it could work

>>1288635
>Future of the sport
One of the reasons that I like airsoft is that the weapons are self contained, and that there are hardly any external differences in relation to a real steel. Not to mention most of the fields don't have any limitations to what rate of fire can be set to. At all the fields I play at everyone with HPA has their shit firing at 40 rps and never take their gun off auto. I'm fine with 40 rps AEGs because theres a trade off since the only way to fire that fast is to have a half toothed gear set which means that they fire at no more than 300 to 350 fps and poor accuracy at range due to this. Since HPA doesn't have this issue theres no trade off, they can have their cake and eat it too.
Basically fuck HPA

>>1288586
You might save a buck or two if you buy the inner barrel from somewhere else. ZCI barrels are great for the price, but not the best. Pick Prometheus, PDI, ORGA or EdGI you're not afraid of spending money. You'll probably want R-hop too. Protip: You don't necessarily need to change the bucking if you get an R-hop.
You'll get 20RPS with 11,1v Lipo without changing any rof related parts. If you want a really crisp trigger response, you could swap the gears to 10:1 or 12:1 set. It'll increase your rate of fire too if you don't swap the motor to a one with really high torque though. ASG U18000 is probably the best REALLY high torque motor you can buy.
Ask them to correct the aoe and swap the piston to a one with full steel teeth. This is VERY important as It makes your gun a lot more durable. Ask them to shim your gears and check the air seal if they don't do it by default. Most air leaks can be solved with lube, O-rings and teflon tape, but they'll probably ask if you want to swap the whole part which is obviously more expensive for you. There's a myriad of things that may or may not affect the performance of your gun so it's pretty hard to determine whether the new part actually helps or not if you're not testing the shit by yourself.

>>1288592
Stock E&L motor has good neomagnets and according to some speculation, about 20TPA armature which guarantees plenty of torque.

>>1288645
Yes, for the hundredth time, LCT guns are of high quality.

>>1288640
>melee weapons
Gay as fuck.
I make a special effort to inflict pain on anyone I see sporting novelty gear.
I can't help it, I just dislike attention whores. But maybe that's what they actually want, I don't know.

>>1288663
So what you're saying is, it has less tradeoffs than my gun, and is overall better, so fuck it.
I don't even have HPA and that sounds petty as fuck.

>>1288668
Thanks, best response so far.
Probably going to get a prometheus bucking even if im Rhopping since ive had buckings die on me before and I find that matching bucking and barrel brands have best results. Might get some high tier gears since i'm still a bit spooked of 11.1 lipos and more durability is more better. Pistons are pretty cheap too so im definately getting a steel toothed one.

>>1288640
YOU HAVE FIRED MANY ROUNDS
I STILL MAKE YOU INTO KUNG PAO

>>1288640
>>1288676

There is a time and place for everything. But doing this at a non-gimmick or higher level game will basically paint you as the most autistic fuck in a sport already full of autistic fucks.

>>1288678
My issue is that HPA is still uncommon enough that most fields don't have regulation about how fast HPA guns can fire which results in basically every chucklefuck ive seen with one cranking the rof as high as possible and using like a bb hose. You don't know cancer until you play against some weekend warrior numale fag with an HPA'd PKM that straight doesn't stop firing the whole game, which I had the pleasure of playing against last time I was out. If all fields had rules limiting HPA guns to 20-25 rps i'd have no issue with HPA but its just due to the fact that ive never not seen them used as a bb hose that gives me issues with them.

>>1288632
How about a tipman then, using the co2 cartridges

>>1288720
You mean a GBBP that uses CO2 cartridges? Not an issue for me. The main reason I take issue with HPA is how they're uses and what they're capable of. While I don't like the concept of an external tank to propel bbs that isn't my biggest issue.

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>>1288676
>I make a special effort to inflict pain on anyone I see sporting novelty gear.
Boy anon, you must be fun at pick up games.I guess you treat every walk on game as a MSW event huh?
>>1288698
Of course anon, i'd never do that at big events only at walk-on games. Being super operator gets boring and I just want to have fun.

>>1288578
They're Legit, at the very least they'll give you a build list and pic of internals and stuff like that. They're pretty well known in the community and evike sells their custom guns now.

>>1288663
>>1288717
>I'm fine with 40 rps AEGs because theres a trade off since the only way to fire that fast is to have a half toothed gear set which means that they fire at no more than 300 to 350 fps and poor accuracy at range due to this
SHS HT motor + 13:1 SSG and JG Blue motor + 10:1 SSG setups net you about 40RPS with 11,1v LiPo. You can make DSGs shoot 1.6J reliably and up to about 2J at max, but that's really pushing it.
>If all fields had rules limiting HPA guns to 20-25 rps
Why only HPA guns? Shouldn't AEGs be restricted too then? They can be made to shoot way faster than 25RPS just as well. It's even more accessible because it's a lot cheaper as well. 11,1v Lipo + SHS HS motor will make your gun shoot about 35RPS without any other modifications.

>>1288687
E&L gears are tough as nails, but not the fastest. Swap the gears if you want better trigger response or higher rate of fire. 16:1 gears are a joke btw. Never buy them.

>>1288663
>hasn't seen 40-50rps 400+ fps dsg.

Poor bastard.

>>1288724
So you don't like p* and smps, the hpas with solenoids, but don't mind stuff like gbbrs, Daytona's and tippmans?

>>1288745
>>1288740
I didn't even realise that DSG builds were a thing, I dont think ive ever encountered one. I was under the impression that any AEG shooting like 40rps had to used half stroke gears and usually shoots 300ish fps. In that case then I think all guns should be limited in rof by field rules, especially in any milsim event.

>>1288760
>40RPS< in a milsim event
What kind of milsim events do you attend to?

>>1288746
Not familliar with daytonas, but anything that has a power source contained either within or on the gun/in the magazines is fine with me. As I said I don't like the concept of HPA tanks in itself but I take the most issue in their rate of fire. Also I have a bit of an issue with the fact that you can change the regulator quickly as ive ran into a few people who chronoed then got called out for changing their fps after chrono.

>>1288766
Ones in southwestern ontario. All the events ive gone to didn't have any regulations about that shit. Tbh im just hoping to bring my shit over the bored and go to one of southwest milsims events.

>>1288760
I just hate the unreasonable hate on hpa.

I can build an aeg to do similar things as one, joule creep it too. I can make a gbbr shoot stupid fast, with short stroking kits, etc.

Have you ever seen a kjw kc02 shoot full auto +30rps? Its stupid.

Yes, hpa is easy performance gains, but for similar or less money, I can get other patforms to do the same.

At least what I do is avoid places like SC Village, fucking cancer containment field and talk to refs, hosts and field owners about implementing rules to avoid abuse of platform. I dont complain about high rof shit. Its just a bb waste and if you play smart, you can out shoot it.

>>1288632
>I think that components to a gun should be contained in or on the gun and not elsewhere.
So you are okay with HPA systems that carry the smaller tanks on the stock then? Because that's literally the next step in the evolution of HPA and it's happening already.

>>1288786
To be fair a CO2 pistol firing 30rps will require frequent reloads and have poor range, which isnt really comparible to a HPA with highcaps, midcaps or god forbid a self winding drum

>>1288637
Every marui I've ever touched has been a steaming pile of plastic shit.

>>1288801
Kc02 is a rifle. A semi auto only rifle converted to shoot full auto is what I meant.

>>1288799
>on the stock
Good but still not great. Ill consider HPA one the tank is concealed within the gun somehow. This may sound like moving goalposts but when I said on the gun I had battery PEQ boxes and means that wouldn't look out of place on real steel.

>>1288805
How many Maruis have you held? The FAMAS and nothing else?

>>1288808
Even so, pretty sure that any mags produced for that rifle don't go over 30 rounds, which would be expended in literally 1 second of firing.

>>1288810
Yep, it is moving goal posts, i can get a fully upgraded sniper to shoot with hpa and conceal the tank in the stock. Same as the m82.

They make airtanks that go onto stock nowadays.

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>>1288810
So you are okay with this then? Looks pretty concealed to me.

>>1288820
Whats the point? I can make a custom high cap magazine thats rigged into an hpa line and make a broke man's daytona gun with a high rof auto thats not solenoid like polarstars.

I can make mag adapters that uses mp5 mags for pistols, use hpa and short stroke the pistol to achieve high cap and high rof. And best part of it all, its almost same price or lower than hpa.

>>1288825
Not bad, but the shape of that looks too wide and round to be comfortable for me. I don't know how feasable it is but i'd want tank to be built around the gun not the gun around the tank. Pretty sure that it would be possible to take a crane stock and build a tank into that and have the regulator fit into the buffer tube

>>1288837
I mean I guess is possible if you're skilled enough and willing to take the time to do the mods yourself, but until you do it with proofs my opinion still stands. Even then it would take a good amount of time and skill/knowledge to custom make that yourself. Almost retard can buy a HPA engine and stick it in a M4 or pay someone to do it for them.