Sumo Thread - Natsu basho 2016

Sekiwake Debut: Kotoyuki
Kotoyuki is the second rikishi from the Sadogatake Beya to earn promotion into the Sekiwake and Sanyaku ranks since the present oyakata inherited the heya on November 25, 2005. The previous was Kotoshogiku who was promoted in the 2007 March Grand Sumo Tournament.

Kotoyuki is the third rikishi from the Kagawa Prefecture to make his Sekiwake debut post WWII, following Wakamisugi who was promoted in the 1960 July Grand Sumo Tournament. This is the fourth Sanyaku debut post WWII, with the previous also being Wakamisugi in the 1960 July Tournament.

Sekiwake Debut: Ikioi
Ikioi is the first rikishi from the Isenoumi Beya to earn promotion into the Sekiwake rank since the present oyakata inherited the heya on September 25, 2011. The previous was Tosanoumi who was promoted in the 1997 May Grand Sumo Tournament.
Ikioi is the third rikishi from the Osaka Prefecture to earn this promotion post WWII, with the previous being Goeido who was promoted in the 2009 May Grand Sumo Tournament.

< Kotoyuki & Ikioi >

Kotoyuki and Ikioi are the 154th and 155th rikishi to make their Sekiwake debuts post WWII, with the previous being Yoshikaze who was promoted in the 2016 January Grand Sumo Tournament.

This is the 14th tournament post WWII in which there have been two Sekiwakes and both were newly promoted. The previous time this occurred was in the 2015 March Grand Sumo Tournament with Terunofuji and Okinoumi.

Komusubi Debut: Kaisei

Kaisei is the second rikishi from the Tomozuna Beya to earn promotion into the Komusubi rank since the present oyakata inherited the heya on May 20, 1989. The previous was Kaio who was promoted in the 1994 May Grand Sumo Tournament.

Kaisei is the first rikishi from Brazil to make his Komusubi debut. He is the 25th foreign-born rikishi to accomplish this, following Terunofuji and Tamawashi who were promoted in the 2015 March Grand Sumo Tournament.

< Kotoyuki & Kaisei >
Kotoyuki and Kaisei are the 237th and 238th rikishi to make their Sanyaku debuts post WWII, with the previous being Takarafuji who was promoted in the 2015 July Grand Sumo Tournament.

The previous time there were two Sanyaku debuts in the same tournament was in the 2015 March Grand Sumo Tournament, when Terunofuji and Tamawashi earned the promotion.

Komusubi Return: Okinoumi
Okinoumi returns to the Komusubi rank for the first time in four tournaments. The previous time he held a Komusubi rank was in the 2015 September Grand Sumo Tournament.

Makuuchi Debut: Nishikigi
Nishikigi is the second rikishi from the Isenoumi Beya to make his Makuuchi debut since the present oyakata inherited the heya. The previous was Ikioi who was promoted in the 2012 March Grand Sumo Tournament.
Nishikigi is the eighth rikishi from the Iwate Prefecture to earn this promotion post WWII, with the previous being Tochinohana who was promoted in the 2000 May Grand Sumo Tournament.

Makuuchi Return: Osunaarashi
Osunaarashi returns to the Makuuchi Division after two tournaments.

Makuuchi Return: Seiro
Seiro returns to the Makuuchi Division for the first time in four tournaments. The previous time he held a Makuuchi Division rank was in the 2015 September Grand Sumo Tournament.

Makuuchi Return: Endo
Endo returns to the Makuuchi Division after two tournaments.

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>>1267432
>Makuuchi Return: Osunaarashi
Aww yes.

>>1267631
Absolutely great to have him back, putting him in Juryo was ridiculous

better than pro wrestling

>>1269293
Kind of a shame how the wrestling threads have drowned out every other topic on /asp/, this thread got a bit more attention before wrestling was pushed over here

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my fav sumo

>>1270062
You probably know Yokozuna was never an actual sumotori, but you might not know Akebono who was an actual Yokozuna did participate in WWE after his retirement from Sumo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KmMvfdidvQ

Unsurprisingly, it's absurdly obvious that Akebono isn't even trying, he's not even doing a decent acting job

>>1270126
That's a bit weird that he would subject himself to that, isn't it?

>>1270126

Compare that the Tenta/Yoko sumo match and its obvious how little of a shit Akebono gives about making things look good. Although I guess in fairness that was like his second ever match in a wrestling ring. He got better.

Oh hey, actual sumo fans! I've been trying to get some opinions on it, but you folks are hard to come by: What do you guys think about sumo as an Olympic sport? What changes do you think would need to be made for it?

>>1270133

At that time, Akebono had retired from sumo and was looking to transition over to pro wrestling after he got his freakshow MMA stuff done. Given the payday he apparently got and the fact he was supposedly a big wrestling fan it wouldn't have been a hard choice.

>>1270133
Rumour has it he used all his Sumo money on his failed restaurant, which is why he does pretty much anything someone will pay him for these days.

>>1270150
There's two major problems with Sumo in the olympics, the biggest problem is the lack of weight classes. Most viewers love the variety in weights in traditional Sumo but the Olympic committee thinks otherwise.

The other problem is that women aren't allowed to participate, or even touch the Dohyo. Sumotori are essentially shinto priests and/or representations of god on earth.

I think people could get over women participating in the traditional sport, and they already do in amateur venues. I don't think many viewers want to see weight classes added though.

>>1270154

The other problem is that Sumo is so minor outside of japan. That kind of single-country dominance tends to get sports turfed out of the Olympics in favour of something more competitive (or, cynically, that they can sell more tickets for). It damn near killed amateur wrestling at the Olympics and that's got a much broader base than sumo.

>>1270165
A very good point, nobody would be able to compete with Japan with the exception of maybe Mongolia. That wouldn't make for too much excitement.

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>Osunaarashi is back
Yes!

I hope my Mitakeumi gets better and better. 10-5 was a really good record for a kid his age.

Also, OP that stream you posted has been shut down.

Is Kevin Owens in this?

>>1271628
Stream seems to be going up and down, was working for me a few minutes ago but now it's fucked again, too bad

Mongolian stream seems to be working though, Makuuchi matches are going live in an hour and a half for anyone that's watching live http://tv.onair.mn/watch/ubs

Sounds like Kintamayama is having trouble getting footage this tournament and may not be providing coverage, I'll post Day 1 from another source when someone gets it up

Day 1 from Tenshinhan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAFQUAUoyW4

And the Kintamayama version of Day 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVIFilM8ep8

Glad to see chiyootori again.

Feel real bad for Amuru though.

>>1273358
Looked like some serious pain, I'd be surprised if he didn't pull out

>>1272906
Yeah i noticed he mentioned that on the most recent video. A real shame it isnt more accessible outside of Japan. Does /sumo/ have a specific go to stream or replay site they frequent?

>>1273592
There's really nothing reliable for watching live Online, besides maybe the mongolian stream but even that can be sketchy

The couple people posting the matches on youtube tend to be the most reliable and free way to see the matches, it's not great but it works

>>1273592
I just pay the five bucks a month for the premium sumo app.

I'm not terribly happy with how the app spoils the matches in the thumbnails though.

Matches went by really quick today.

So i watched the previous 2 bashos, one in person and the other online and im trying to get into this. My question is what are some of the things you're looking for when try to choose a favorite rikishi?

>>1274664
I picked chiyootori because I find he always gives 110%, I've almost never watched a match with him in it and been able to say "he gave up early there".

A friend of mine picked tamawashi because he tends to fight more with his hands.

It's different for each person, but eventually you'll find a rikishi that you will be able to recognize not by appearance, but by style.

>>1273649
People have been asking for a no-spoiler option for months too, don't know why they haven't done it

>>1274357
A very average day, no real surprises. Can't always have a crazy Day 1 I guess.

>>1274664
Just keep watching, you'll definitely find someone you like. Pay attention to technique and also personality.

A favorite I think everyone should have is Aminishiki. Currently the oldest rikishi at 37, he's got a ton of interesting techniques and is always a surprise to watch.

>>1274848
>>1274854
/sumo/ confirmed for the most helpful/welcoming thread.
>>1273649
Im seriously considering just paying the 5 dollars a month whenever there is a basho going on. It doesnt seem like a bad deal at all

>>1274858
$5 a month is the first reasonable choice the Kyokai has ever made on any internet related streaming anything. They used to change $120 for a single tournament on their older streaming platform, ridiculous.

The do put up videos in-between basho to try to keep your $5 value, and some of them are pretty cool. Last month was all Kotoshogiku's best matches. If you're like me and forget to watch them though, it's better to cancel after the basho is over and just resubscribe next basho.

>>1274854
For what it's worth, I'm tanimachi and just emailed them requesting no spoilers on the videos.

Mind you, I already get my gohiiki spoiled for me via push notification.

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>>1274858
>/sumo/ confirmed for the most helpful/welcoming thread.

In the disgusting pit of /asp/ the light still shines through the garbage

Oosunaarashi's tweets are pretty cool.

https://twitter.com/Oosunaarashi/status/724810090574802944

>>1274939
He posts so many great photos, it's great even if you don't know any Japanese

BASHO, BASHO, WE'RE HAVING A BASHO

Hello lads, the best thread in /asp/ is back!

>>1274664
It can be whatever reason you like. In my case I was always looking for Kakuryu winning his first basho as a Zuna and now I feel like is "my" rikishi

I feel drawn to support all the non-Japanese as well tbqh

Very sloppy sumo today

For all the talk about the lack of sources, the Mongolian stream is perfect right now: (Second night is live now!)

http://tv.onair.mn/watch/ubs

If someone here posts in Sumoforum would be good to let Kinta know, but it would surprise me if he didnt know about the Mongolian stream already

>>1275224
Mongolian stream seems like the only free way to watch live now, and it's not too bad of an option

Kinta definitely knows about it though, it gets posted on sumoforum pretty frequently, may have been where he got his footage for last night

A Japanese version of Day 2 until something else better shows up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za2pfnG8Ip0

Day 2 version 1 from kintamayama:
https://youtu.be/OV9ZiRkzY7M

>>1275459
Daisho vs Sadanoumi is a great slapfight
Very sad to see Aminishiki injured like that
Good to see Ichinojo is still putting in effort, and losing weight still too

Not a bad day

Hakuho beasted today, that is all I wanted.

Two days, two serious injuries.

Rooting for muh nigga Kaisei to start winning soon

Western Hemisphere representing

I'm not sure how I feel about foreigners in sumo.

On one hand, it's so tied to Japanese culture that it's like putting a poointheloo in a passion play, on the other, you can't say that foreign sumotori don't follow the rules and assimilate.

>>1279165
They did put a cap on the number of foreigners a few years ago, we'll definitely see the number come down a bit but it's going to take time.

Being limited is going to make each Heya only pick the best foreigners though, which might have the effect of making them more visible.

http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1644791.html
"6 months to heal" for aminishiki

That's very likely the end of his career, what a goddamn shame

>>1277309
A little bit of a unsportsmanlike move on that extra shove at the end though. You're already god tier yokozuna, there isnt much need for that extra show of bravado/force

>>1279553
He's going the same route as his predecessor.

The countdown to breaking some guys nose while drunk begins.

>>1279553
>>1279599


Isnt that the whole "great men are actually sociopaths Steve Jobs" thing?

He's an extremely combative rikishi. Maybe thats why he's the goat

>>1279553
He got warned again for that kind of behaviour before the tournament too, this one could be blamed on continued momentum though. Doubt there will be any uproar.

Got a reply from the sumo app company.

"thanks for your input, we will consider it"

Don't hold your breath.

Day 3:
https://youtu.be/KnQRJ0wq-gI

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>>1279514
That'd be a shame. It may not be very 'sumo' but, coming from the martial arts background that I have, I love a well-executed henka, so I'd be sad to see him retire.

Then again, at his age, I could understand.

>>1280290
Why im not surprised Harumafuji is the first yokozuna to lose...

>>1280290
Some good matches today, Mitakeumi, Tochinoshin, Ikioi and the final match all stand out

>>1280656
50 kilo difference between the two, but beyond that, yeah that's just Harumafuji for you

Puts up decent numbers but always loses at surprising moments

>>1279628
it looked like Hakuhaou was trying cover his ass by seemingly being a bit buddy buddy with Takarafuji as he entered back onto the dohyo, but yeah i doubt he'll get any real blowback over it.

>>1281606
It also wasn't nearly as blatant as that shove last tournament

>>1270165
I still can't believe they cut wrestling from the olympics when it was a part of the modern olympics since its inception, and on top of that it was a major part of the ancient olympics too. To me it was like saying they were cutting the marathon.

>>1280474
On the bright side, he'll almost definitely be a frequent guest with the Japanese commentators.

>>1282163
This is still sad, even as someone that is not a traditional wrestling fan.

>>1282163
And the sort of pomp and circumstance and ceremy that goes with sumo, you would think that would lend itself so well to even like the olympics.

Chiyootori with the good footwork, I've got good feelings about this Basho.

Day 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LeevUafrY

>>1282850
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LeevUafrY
>Kotoshougiki - Takarafuji
Holy shit, I lol'd hard.

>>1279165
>>1279481
What is the point of the cap anyway? It is not like foreigners are swarming Sumo, is it Japan just slightly butthurt that a lot of the top Rikishi are Mongolian? Japan just has to perform better.

Although Hakuhou is pretty much the the best, the Japs can still jack off to Raiden and other good modern day Japanese Rikishi.

>>1283728
>is it Japan just slightly butthurt that a lot of the top Rikishi are Mongolian?

That's exactly the point of the cap, yeah. Until Kotoshogiku won the Yusho a Japanese rikishi hadn't won in 10 years, they were extremely butthurt about that.

>>1282850
that classic hakuho bitchslap

Japanese version of day 5 since other sources are taking awhile today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ripLA0xH1mo

Day 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJn1a6rIVk

>>1282850
>>1284758
Shit that hakuho slap, so hard poor shodai was thrown across the dohyo

>>1285554
>>1285912
Damn that throw from Ikioi

>>1284671
I hope there isn't another Japanese Yusho for another ten years. I hope Mongolians rule Sumo for eternity until the cap is removed.

>>1285912
Just based on the 1st 5 days is Kisenosato gonna earn a promotion this basho?

>>1286774
Not impossible, he'd need to post incredible numbers and win the Yusho though

15-0 would very likely do it

Day 6:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb9LNVdVYVU

>>1288123
- THAT Oosuranashi fight
- THAT Hakuho win

Great basho. Need Kisenosato to start losing tbqh

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>>1288142
>need Kisenosato to start losing
Pls go

>>1288142
>>1288343
He was pretty strong last basho, but his real challenges are still next week.

He's pretty much guaranteed to lose a few to the ozeki/yokozuna

>>1288343
>wanting one of the shittiest ozekis to become yokozuna

Why would you want that pham

>>1288123
I can't believe Kotoshogiku got henka'd again, goddamn

Terunofuji is definitely injured too

>>1288445
I can get how people arent a huge fan of his but watching him chase that promotion in addition to his string of matches that didnt feature a ton of stalling is kind of fun.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-sumo-matchup-centuries-in-the-making/

Good article on Sumo history right here

Day 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UIC91ptcqw

>>1289891
Read that yesterday during lunch. Really well written and very interesting. Good stuff

>>1267427
wheres kevin owens

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>>1290677
Kevin Owens is not involved in Sumo, but fellow Canadian professional wrestler John Tenta briefly was. Retiring after only 4 basho, making him one of very few rikishi to retire without a single loss.

>>1290684
Okay i was memein first but this is actually interesting
Do sumos train or they are just fat? What kind of diet do they follow?

>>1290686
Life of a rikishi is almost completely regimented, they train everyday at their stable with their stablemates. Usually about 4 - 6 hours a day but it depends entirely on the stable. Many rikishi do additional training afterwards as well.

The staple of their diet is Chankonabe, a very high protein stew. Often followed by a nap to increase weight gain. Average bodyfat percentage is something like 22%, which is about the same as the average person.

>>1290467
Today probably had some of the most exciting matches so far for this basho. Why doesnt Gagamaru ever change up his game plan though? Dude is obsessed with oshidashi and just driving a straight line in general

>>1290690
oh thabx pal

>>1290467
Definitely some great matches today

>>1290708
Some guys just have one style and it's all they can do, Kotoshogiku is pretty much the same, not always a bad thing

>>1290966
I watched a profile of him the other day and he explained that no matter what happens during the match he'll stick to his guns in terms of style which i guess i can respect in some way. Seems like a chill dude tho

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If you're like me and don't live in Japan and yet you want to watch the fights, here's the two channels that have day-to-day coverage of matches:
Jason's Sumo channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-vKonfqD90

(click on his name to find the rest of the vids)

and this channel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nEvIU5MxPY
(much more compact coverage with no commentary... click on the channel name to see the rest).

Looks like yokozunas are doing well in this honbasho.

>>1291616
based kintanayama always with the cheeky commentary

>>1290467
i wish goeido would stop showing flashes of brilliance when you know it's just a matter of time before he's shit again

>>1291930
This but all the Ozeki

Day 8: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR_WXuTLdnw

>>1292681
Holy shit what a day!!!

Amazing bouts EVERYWHERE

Can't put a ring on a single one

Also, I, for once, fully embrace this Hakuho turned 100% heel

>>1293049
Yeah man! That shove back into the dohyo, what did Hakuho mean by that? Also that initial slap/push in the tachiai looked mighty close to a eye poke intentional or not

>falling for the most obvious Henka in history

Day 7 is the definition of drama.

>>1293876
Shit I mean day 8.

>>1289891
>At its lowest ebb, following the hazing death of Tokitaizan and former yokozuna Asashoryu feigning injury the only yokozuna worth his salt in both performances on the dohyo and behavior off it was yourself.

>True, you are still the best there is in a mawashi.

>And that is how you should be remembered.

>Not as a man who resorts to a final day henka against a fellow yokozuna, on his way to yusho No. 36.

>Go now and you go in true Japanese fashion, falling on your sword for that Day 15 performance so unworthy of your name.

This man was the definition of buttmad, there was no need to mention the first two things.

Hakuhou is going to get walked to the dohyo by Vince McMahon and HHH at this rate.

>>1293912
I really don't understand why hakuho gets so much hate. He's a boorish overly aggressive foreigner who came to Japan and dominated their national sport so hard that all the record books had to be rewritten. As far as I'm concerned that's living the dream.

>>1293912
He's quoting Japan Times' Mark Buckton there, who is pretty notorious for writing articles like that. Sumo clickbait pretty much.

Day 9:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FlsBpAnAOk

>>1294771
dat fucking elbow from GOAT hakuho

>>1294771
AMUURU WAS ROBBED

Good to see Kaisei coming back

That Ozeki fight was brutal

HAKUHO YOU ABSOLUTE MADMAN

Harumafuji back to Ama mode

Good day, but again, day 8 was insanely good

Is amazing how Hakuho is such a one-trick pony (initial slap to the face) but no one knows how to stop him on that

Full version of day 9

https://youtu.be/-pSd2giFFwQ

>>1294931
While he almost always does that, he's far from a one-trick pony. All in all, he uses a significantly wider set of techniques than the average rikishi.

And he's insanely strong, too. Check his day 7 match; he takes repeated charges from the considerably heavier Inchinojou (I think, video inaccessible) without moving back an inch.

Kinta getting fancy with the editing these days

>>1294771
>Hakuho
>ok I am going to slap him and get ready to grapple or something
>oh shit I hit him with an elbow on accident, I didn't expect that
>he fell on the ground? I dazed him! wtf
>better go over there and see if he is ok
>oh god people are going to talk shit about me again

Hakuho never gets a break no matter what. He breeds trouble even if he doesn't intend it.

Gagamaru is just a fat lump. Does he have any wrestling skills at all? I always root against the fat guys

>>1292681
Everyone has already said it, but wow, fantastic day

>>1294771
>>1294953
Another really great day, wow that elbow

>>1294864
Jesus, rare to see anyone hit so hard they get disoriented like that

>>1295115
He thinks it's hilarious putting annoying fonts and shit on videos, he's a goofball

>>1295122
Hilariously Gagamaru is one of the most popular rikishi among children. He's quite agile for his size and does use his weight pretty well, he could definitely lose a dozen kilos though.

>>1295122
Dont be hating on Gagamaru, sure he's a little too fat right now and sure he could probably do something besides going for oshidashi 24/7 but he seems like an alright guy and does pretty well for going with the same gameplan all the time when u think about it

rip in peace ikioi

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>>1294864

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>>1298668

>>1298906
>all those old ladies faces

>>1294966
Well, he's the goat. of course he isnt, but he has been pulling the same tachiai and stance since coming back from the injury.

Sure, he isnt the only guy slapping, but most slaps are stopped at least partially, everyone knows what he will do and still does, he's le cut inside man of Sumo

>>1295115
Yeah its getting silly by now

>>1295122
Morbidly obese rishikis are at disadvantage. A few bashos ago we had Sadanofuji in Makuuchi (208kg) and he went 1-14. Hes not coming back

Also, as mentioned,Gagamaru is very popular. If anything Aoiyama mantits look more disgusting

>>1297332
>>1298906

Classic Hakuho, Can you please make a webm of this?

https://youtu.be/QxCSCNp1qKU?t=240

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>>1299076
Good find on that one, nearly exactly the same match wow

Used Youtube-dl: https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ and WebM for Retards: https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter to make these, not too hard

And here is Kintamayama's first upload of Day 10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsGBC3vHRNI

>>1299117
We should be patient and wait for the full version. Usually comes 3-4 hours later

P-plz no spoilers

>>1299110
This one is way more brutal. Myogiryu clearly got a concussion. Can barely stand up after it

The Ura hype is real, that stylin' pink mawashi

Check out his awesome match of his from Juryo today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAKKSJP6hDU#t=120s

>>1299076
>he's le cut inside man of sumo
never thought of it like that...ur spot on m8

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>>1299240
Did I really just see a fucking soto makikomi in high level sumo?!

>>1299240
>>1299345
Koshinage was the announced Kimarite, it's been 6 years since anyone won a match that way in the paid divisions

>>1299352
And just for reference that match was Chiyohakuho vs Kaiho in 2010, I cannot find footage of that match. Would be cool if anyone can dig up a video though.

The full version of day 10:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8Ut3RuS4t4

>>1299240
While this is wicked, I dont know if this will fly in the upper leagues with bigger weights

Still, that kimarite tho

>>1299382
Ok, im the one who doesnt want Kisenosato to win, but that was amazing

>>1299110
>that hand wave of dismissal
Oh man, only if Hakuho had the balls to wink at the camera like Kobe.

>>1299352
>koshinage
I suspected as much; the specific name of the hip throw variation used is soto makikomi, but the recognized kimarite list doesn't include anything far more specific than basic koshinage. Being any more specific isn't required unless a small mircale - like this one - happens.

Still beyond awesome.

>>1299404
Probably not, sadly. Under sumo rules it's clearly suicidal even at lower weight.

>>1299382
>>1299470

Hot damn that Kisenosato vs Kotoshogiku match was great

>>1299404
kek, once Tochinoshin gets the belt it's all over

>>1299731
in the video at 4:44 he gives a slight smirk to the camera as he walks out of the arena

Day 11: https://youtu.be/Ne3caYhvLXc

>>1301651
very nice beltless throw from Hakuho there, did you manage to catch his matchup history with Kotoshogiku its now 48-5 that's fucking insane.

>>1301651
Had to watch that Hakuho match a few times to see how he pulled that off. Amazing reflexes

Also, Kaisei put 100% today in his match. It was pretty close match.

>>1301651
Kintamayama is getting pretty laddy with the comments in his past few videos. He seems to really be enjoying the basho.
Also shout out to ma boy Gagamaru for going full on bulldozer today

Thoughts on the amazing 'new guy' Mitakeumi? I got high hopes for him. If he doesn't win a Yusho in his future I would be extremely surprised.

>>1303138
>If he doesn't win a Yusho in his future I would be extremely surprised.
that seems a bit premature to me, if he moves up to M1-4 next tournament and still gets Kachikoshi then I'll be more impressed.

>>1303138
Good for now, lets wait for sanyaku and lets see

People were this hyped for Osuuranashi and hes still just climbing the laadder

Day 12 (abridged)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rCtNi-w7sg

>>1303731

- The MADMAN does it again

- That Harumafuji throw

- Kise only has to beat the 3 sunas to join then!

>>1303733
Kisenosato is known for choking up at the last moment though, can he do it this time?

Who /bet/ here?

Kisenosato-Hakuho will have a henka

[spoiler]the henka fails[/spoiler]

>>1303746
I don't think either one will Henka, but I do think Hakuho might try something unconvential

Maybe another Nekodamashi

>>1303743
Man, my car got broken into last night in my driveway and now tomorrow i can feel in my heart kisenosato gonna get wrecked my hakuho. Life is hard /sumo/

Day 12 (full)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7SgI7kbBcs

>Hakuho vs Goueidou

It was like a comedy act

>>1303746
You actually bet on sumo and talk about it in /bet/? I am not sure if I am to be surprised considering people bet on Eurovision.

>>1303181
I did not mean in the immediate future, if he continues to improve and pull off the wins he currently has the future looks bright for him.

who /hakuho/ here?

>>1305201
Not that I don't love Hakuho, he's an incredible rikishi and always amazing to watch, but his dominance always makes me want to cheer for the underdogs.

>>1303973
What's wrong about betting on sumo?

>>1303973
I lived in Cambodia. Sumo betting is MASSIVE.

No, they dont care about sumo, they barely know the rules. Is just a very easy sport to bet on:

>Showing bouts in a shit coffee house
> quick yells of left/right blue/black wins
>throw a few bills and sip a drink
>quick bets
>solved in seconds
>next fight starts immediately

They have thousands of old fight recorded and play them non-stop. I always wandered if people started remembering and bet based on memory having watching it before

>>1305201
Deep in our hearts, we all are.

I mean, we are watching the last prime years of the absolute greatest of all time, who cant be drawn to it?

>Still needs the grand slam tho
>perhaps 2017 will be his last chance

>>1305238
Nothing, I just thought some of ya'll would be just a bit worried considering the history of match fixing.
>>1305277
Damn, that is nuts. I need their video archives.

Day 13:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_XN8Pj7aVk

>>1305694
Meh day finishing with a GOAT fight

Proper Yusho-winning fight right there

>>1305201
I don't especially like him more than other rikishi, but his skill and technical ability I can only marvel at.

>>1305694
That match is going to be played at my funeral along with my other top rated sumo matches.

Amazing doesn't cut it. I have no words.

Tochinoshin looks like a Baldwin brother.

>>1305717
>>1305962
>>1305694
Wow, just wow

>>1305201
I cant say im a huge fan of his especially after he beat kisenosato, who i was rooting for, but watching him do his thing is incredible. It's hard to outright root for him when he's always walking that line between marching to the beat of his own drum and just being sort of a dick.

>>1305201
he is the best ever

That was unreal. This Hakuho kid looks promising. One to watch for the future.

>>1306665
lel

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>Its a "Hakuho starts with a slap and no one stops him" episode
>Kimi Ga Yo starts playing

>>1305316
Youre gonna need a VHS sempai

Day 14 incomplete edition:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxO02jlkyA4

>>1307471
MUH NIGGA KAISEI

>MUH
>NIGGA
>KAISEI

Sekiwake for the grabs tomorrow

It took to a Yokozuna to avoid Hakuho's bloody predictable slap

Hakuho = Tom Brady

Day 14 full:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2q2ieGrjQ

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>when it's day 15 and your gohiiki is 7-7

Cmon chiyootori, you can do this, I believe in you you big bouncing bastard.

Sidenote, kotoyuuki clearly needs to start hooting again.

>>1308073
>kotoyuuki clearly needs to start hooting again.

It's bullshit that they made him stop, honestly, I miss the bark

>>1308088
Of all people, hakuhou telling people to demonstrate etiquette in sumo.

Now that Kisenosato choked because of course he did, who is the next great hope for Japan?

>>1308120
URA

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>>1308073
Kotohooki is going to make it. He better hoot tomorrow.

>>1308224
4-11 isn't anything to hoot about.

>>1308102
>>1308224

Wasn't Hakuho that told him to stop this time, it was the judging committee

He's never going to hoot again

>>1308990
Guess we can't have fun in Sumo then. I mean one basho spectators are banned from throwing their cushions.

>>1309036
I bet people would bring their own cushions to throw if they nailed them down in every arena, can't stop that one no matter how much they want to

Juryo day 14 for the kids who want an early jump in the Ura bandwaggon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZvE5XRyQFQ

Again, pretty cool, but to try this in Makuuchi...

>gyoji gets hit with a cushion
>doesn't move a muscle

Day 15 proper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6_11xyg0ug

My boy Mitakeumi gets the fighting spirit reward
Kaisei acquires his Kachikoshi as Komusubi
Tochinoshin gets the technique award
Hakuho gets the Yusho and ends the tournament with an amazing kimarite
Osunaarashi is back at it

What a time to be alive.

>>1310047
A great tournament overall

>>1309975
That last match is killer, nice to see Hakuho not being lazy even though he already had the Yusho

>>1310134
>nice to see Hakuho not being lazy even though he already had the Yusho
hopefully people remember this next time they want to say he's not doing the Yokozuna's job of leading by example

But now what do I do for two months?

>>1310895
Wait in the fetal position.

SEKIWAKE KAISEI

CHIYOOTORI KACHIKOSHI

HAKUHO UTCHARI

>>1310895
We need to start these threads earlier. I think we can start talking about the banzuke 2 weeks before the basho

>>1310895
Read every single post on sumoforum

>>1313779
With the speed /asp/ moves at now, I'm not sure wee get enough posts to keep the thread up if it was started that early

>>1313779
Nah, we only pulled in 207 posts over fifteen days, best to wait to make a thread a day before the basho.

>>1315642
>sumoforum

Yikes, no.

>>1316254
Yeah, there's some decent content in there anyway.


Next tournament begins July 10th, and takes place at the Aichi Prefectural Gynasium in Nagoya

>>1316254
Whats wrong with it?

>>1317001
You know how /jp/ is distilled autism?

Sumoforum is chemically pure autism.

>>1267427
>Use the Sumo App:
I get error 90000 no matter why I do. Must be because i am using CyanogenMod.

>>1317644
I haven't heard anything about it, and I'm not rooted myself but it might have root detection

Try a hider?

>>1317708
I installed it ok on my unrooted phone so I suspect CyanogenMod. No biggie.

>>1317454
Perhaps you swell too much in the offtopic forums?

I only lurk the Honbasho threads and is quite informative

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>>1310895
>tfw 2 more months until daily comfy/friendly daily /sumo/ thread
Feelsbadman

>>1275028
Agreed. didn't even know how much I liked sumo until I stumble on a Basho thread a year ago.

>>1321077
>>1321499
OP Here

I really love you guys and everyone that posts in this thread. We've had more posters every basho, and everyone is excited about Sumo. I couldn't be happier.

Thanks for being so great, /sumo/. Can't wait to see you all again next Basho.

>This is what Hakuhou had to say regarding Kisenosato:
>"He's a strong Ozeki. But he has shortcomings.. his habitual behavior, his way of thinking.." added Hakuhou.
>Hakuhou holds his annual international "Hakuhou Cup" tournament for youngsters. Some rikishi co-operate. Kisenosato never shows up. "He should show his face. at the tournament. He can give some advice to the kids and stuff, " said Hakuhou.
>The rikishi-kai (rikishi's association) shot a fan-service video of all the guys singing the "Hiyonoyama (that sumo mascot yellow doll) Counting Song" for the benefit of the fans before the January Basho. Kisenosato looks like someone put a gun to his head and when everyone is waving he is clearly very much not into it. "What's that all about? It's important to go after your one goal in life but if that is all he has he will never become number one. There are so many things to do outside of the training room that can help him achieve his goal as well.." said Hakuhou.
>Wow, I don't remember ever reading something remotely like this..

kek

>>1323083
Hakuho still throwing salt after he's out of the dohyo

>>1323236
Hah.

>>1305201
I'm not super into Hakuho but I feel a lot of his haters just go well out of their way to find fault with the guy just because he's been so dominant and takes no shit. The calls for him to retire after "disgracefully" henka-ing in last basho's final day were retarded, but then I've never looked down on henka and think doing so is fucking stupid.

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>>1323879
>it's a "I don't understand how Japanese society could view a move that is the antithesis of respectful and traditional as something that shouldn't be allowed or considered good sumo" episode

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>>1324136
>it's a "I masturbate to what I believe japanese people do and completely disregard how it might be dumb or hold absolutely no regard towards practical application" episode

I bet you support shit like the foreigner limit in stables as well because "muh pure japanese culture".

>>1324533
If you don't like Japanese culture, don't watch sumo.

It really is that easy.

Sumo is what it is because of a lack of foreign input.

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>>1324661
Dominated by foreigners. Top kek. Also

>implying japanese martial culture doesn't understand the value of yielding

>>1324695
>the value of yielding
Is not
>the value of dishonourable deceit

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>>1324698
>literally just stepping out of the way to use your opponent's momentum against him
>basic part of Judo, Karate, pretty much every single martial art
>dishonorable deceit

wew lad. Someone's assmad Hakuho got yet another yusho without even having to try.

>>1322044
Thanks for making the threads in the first place, I've come to look forward to them.

so lads, what exactly makes mongolians so succesful in Sumo? Mongolian wrestling is a very competitive sport on its own but you have a lot more room for grips thanks to the jacket and they don't have to worry about ringouts. Is it the wrestling experience combined with the harsher lifestyle? Something about Bokh training? Something genetic?

>>1327576
they taller

>>1327576
That's complex, but I think many people credit a harder lifestyle in Mongolia. Sumo is a very demanding sport that requires you give up everything in your life besides Sumo.

Growing up in a culture that is still fundamentally a farming culture, kids grow up doing hard labour in Mongolia. Heya life is much more similar to life on a farm than it is to day-to-day life in Tokyo. A big aspect of succeeding at Sumo is being able to adapt to that lifestyle.

>>1327576

Money and culture, basically. Size had something to do with the American (mostly Samoan and Hawaiian) success stories, but its less the case with Mongolia.

Its a lot easier to sell Mongolians on the idea of becoming sumos than it is most Japanese. They've got more of a culture of fighting sports (for the average person, at least) and a lot more to gain from going in to sumo.

>>1327576
As mentioned before, wrestling culture and living conditions. While it's about Judo rather than Sumo, this Japanese documentary investigates the phenomenon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z6rGHAGYhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQdSRQ-9IP4

Second vid, the interview with one of the most successful Mongolian Judoka, explains a lot. This man, as a child, ran 7km to the dojo to train, winter or summer, trained (probably Mad Mongolian style), then ran back home.