Anything new on Angle's status with WWE?
Why did steph get her titties reduce?
>>1262143
One thing is for sure: They don't want him.
>>1262143
Legends contract is obvious after he's done indy shit probably
>>1262145
NOPE
JUST
>>1262146
He's already done with indy shit. He's been begging for a WWE contract for at least a year now.
>>1262148
Based a+ and roman empire.
Sucks for deanetty
>>1262145
THEY DON'T WANT HIM
THEY DON'T WANT HIM
THEY RUNNIN SCARED CAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY WANT HIM
WE SOME PITTSBURGH BOYS
WITH OLYMPIC STRENGTH
AIN'T NOBODY ELSE MOONSAULTIN OFF THE CAGE
>>1262150
Is he?
Last i saw him was doing that match with rey a couple months ago
>>1262158
Kurt is on the "look-a-me-I-a-gud-boy" tour. I would expect him to be back in WWE once they decide he's been clean long enough.
Keep in mind we're talking about a guy who had multiple arrests within a small span of time.
>angle returns
>feed to roman
not sure if i want to see that desu
>>1262161
He needs to come back and manage team alpha.
Therefore they wont just be vanilla wrestlers on raw and probably get over huge
>>1262165
I still think, with all his baggage, Kurt could be cleared to wrestle another match. I think Kurt vs. Roman would be money.
MY NAME IS ____ FROM ____
AND I AM ____
AND YOU CANT _____
>>1262167
One more match is fine but not with roman.
This will definitely not help roman one bit i don't think. Unless of course roman is heel by then
>>1262169
when has enzo ever said where he's from?
>>1262177
i dont even know
>>1262169
Not sure I follow
>>1262183
he is dead
>>1262175
I was aiming high since Roman is the main event for the foreseeable future.
I guess we could have an inconsequential Kurt vs. Brock match where the winner does jack shit, but idk.
>>1262148
Jannetties btfo
>>1262186
Kek
>>1262144
I don't know, but I'm glad she did. She looks much more like a professional (and a dominatrix) than a teenage bimbo now.
>Shawn Michaels and AJ Styles will never ever have a match
>>1262206
>giving a shit about hbk
I want to see who's the next guy to job to reigns lmao
>>1262143
Why does Jeff cuck everyone for? He did it to Austin to. Who knows how many wrestlers he has cucked.
>jobs to Paige
>wins rematch
>jobs to Natalya
>beats Becky
>jobs to Natalya again
Fucking 50/50 booking
>>1262206
Shawn would be the heel working against the shorter AJ
They'd have a showstealing match at Wrestlemania. That's the problem. Vince doesn't want a 51 year old Shawn and a 40 year old AJ taking away from Roman. That's why Shawn is paid the big bucks to stay retired.
>>1262245
Shawn stays retired because he respects the man who retired him.
>>1262250
Yeah but they can play around that. I truly believe that Shawn would come out of retirement if the price and the person is right. He was offered a million dollars to put over Bryan but his pride didn't allow him to put over a Berniefag. If they offer him more to put over Alpha AJ, he might do it.
>>1262252
HBGay respects no one but himself
>>1262222
Taking another mans woman is a great feel.
>>1262258
>Bret letting himself go
I know you're just being a troll, but holy shit you're right about this.
Bret's gut was insanely embarrassing at the PPV. Cancer is no excuse, if anything you lose weight if you have that.
Just a total lack of dedication from the Hitman.
>>1262259
ikr
>Styles gets the shit kicked out of him by Reigns
>Instead of seeking revenge he decides to have a civil chat with him on SD
I really hope something is planned for Raw or else he looks like a total pushover pussy
Emma has hands down the best (womens division) theme.
If only she wasn't still fairly boring to watch.
If they want her to go heel they should get her to work with natty behind the scenes and turn emma into a submission wrestler.
Easiest way to get heel heat is to spit some fire over the mic (lmao womens division getting promo time) or have a heel brutalise a babyface, and they don't tend to do those kind of spots with women.
So go for a submission thing, you can get good heat and if her opponent holds out for ages they can actually get someone apart from sasha and natty over.
That would be a nice change
>>1262265
it was his own fault for taking that kick from goldberg hardway because muh realism.
>>1262267
>Instead of seeking revenge he decides to have a civil chat with him on SD
This hasn't happened, are you from the future? Cody is that you?
>>1262270
>What are spoilers?
>>1262269
Goldberg.
Not even once.
>>1262272
Cody pls, we have no spoiler tags on /asp/.
Also, what happened to Ric Flair telling Natalya to kill herself? Editing pass might change how they present that, homie.
>>1262268
I think she's a lot of fun to watch but you're right. They go on about how she's le new aggressive Emma but don't let her do anything outside the box. Even basic shit like running in during a rival's match is almost never used in the women's division. I can recall it happening once in the past year and it was Becky attacking Charlotte in January. It got a pretty good pop so I don't know why they don't do it more often.
Submissions could work except almost every woman of note in WWE uses submissions and it's really overdone. She has nice stiff strikes, they should focus more on that. No one else other than Asuka is hyped up as being a dangerous striker.
Anyone else disappointed they pushed Rusev for us champ not Ryder?
>>1262277
Yeah, that's true.
Another idea would be to have her sit in on matches and watch the other women's matches, then hype up matches with her and the winner of the match she sat in on because she has her opponent well scouted.
The glasses would work well for this, and it's a good way to build Emma as a heel because with the limited time for women's matches it's hard to develop characters.
Then have her sit in on NXT and build hype for Emma vs Asuka.
>>1262281
>Emma vs Asuka
Yes please. Their match in London was so good. I'd love to see them go at it again on the main roster if and when Asuka ever gets called up. Emma hung with her better than anyone else has so far.
>>1262236
B-but everyone has to look strong!
>>1262252
>He was offered a million dollars to put over Bryan but his pride didn't allow him to put over a Berniefag.
ebin
>>1262298
>HBK
>knows the value of Pride
>Montreal screwjob
>>1262259
Like you'd know you basement dweller
>>1262222
There's a difference between cucking and taking used goods
>>1262302
rekt
>>1262309
Yeah, I legit had a second of concern because I thought she botched it.
u rused me gud ladies
>>1262309
You mean the blue thunder bomb, right?
>>1262314
>Not knowing the difference
PLEASE have sex
>>1262316
get worked
It was a good driver, but I still don't buy Emma as a dominant heel.
I feel bad for the womens division because they get fuck all time to have matches and develop interest.
If you have a 3 hour raw show, why the fuck is the women's section 10 minutes?
HOPEFULLY nice Stephanie isn't a stupid angle and she gets more time for the women's division because right now:
>Paige doesn't know if she's heel or face
>No one apart from charlotte and Natty have had any significant time on the card in over a month.
>in the past 3 months, eva marie has wrestled less on the main roster than Shane McMahon, a non-wrestling 49 year old.
My solution is to have stephanie start a women's tag belt, and have more screen time for womens division content.
At least more promos so someone gives a shit about the matches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=771&v=SMKxYoFzAjg
Fuck all who say otherwise, THIS is the best superkick ever
>>1262333
>why the fuck is the women's section 10 minutes?
Because Vince doesn't care for it in the slightest and I'm sure the casuals don't either.
I forgot Eva Marie was even on the main roster now. Wew. You'd think a tag belt would have been created by now, given how much they love throwing them into tag team matches. I'm sure Steph will do something eventually when her ego needs stroked. That's all it ever comes down to. She doesn't care about the wrestlers, just about wanking herself off over how stronk and progressive she is by standing up for them.
kevin owens master of eating food
rybitch poor cry baby no money
>>1262343
The casuals don't care because there's no development.
Think about the best matches you've ever seen on the main roster, they've always been for something, a title, or resolution of a story arc, or even a heel/face turn.
On the main roster the big matches are very rarely technical showcases.
Give them more promo time, give them more development, you'll get some great matches.
>>1262302
I do. I'm a shark.
You're waifu is not safe with me.
>>1262347
Well yeah, when you're fed shit for 10 years you become conditioned to automatically dismiss it. I can't say I blame them, as unfortunate as it is. Instead of having Emma and Becky do stuff on TV it was all relegated to the youtube channel, which I doubt your average fan is going to seek out.
Really that's an issue across the whole roster, men and women. Feuds just don't get good development or competent booking anymore.
Rumours:
Darren Young is getting repackaged with Bob Backlund.
>>1262470
Already confirmed
>>1262470
not a rumor , it has.
Look smackdown spoilers
>>1262474
>>1262475
thats gotta be amazing.
Thread ded like enzo
*tumbleweed*
Summarize a word with one video.
I'll start: Virginity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB_LYUJWoug
>>1262333
You know that Stephanie doesn't actually book anything, right? And that she's a straight-up moron?
>>1262588
I know, I was talking in kayfabe her character should push for more women's matches.
She called shane a misogynist for some reason, so idk maybe that is the direction she wants.
Post GOAT teams
Dean Ambrose is the perfect wrestler
>>1262600
Steph calls guys misogynists because she fancies herself a feminist even though she's no more of one than her Daddy.
>>1262333
>in the past 3 months, eva mariehas wrestled less on the main roster than Shane McMahon
WOW, an NXT wrestler not wrestling on the main roster!?!?!? Call Meltzer and give him the scoop already
>There are people right now who don't believe Shawn will come back for a one-off match with Seff
>>1262639
> Eva Marie
> wrestler
>>1262646
Fuck off you cancerous turd.
>>1262169
MY NAME IS [KURRRRRR ANGLE] FROM [TNA]
AND I AM [GOING TO DIE SOON]
AND YOU CANT [PREVENT THAT]
>>1262639
But she is on the main roster, that's what's fucked up.
>>1262653
"No"
>>1262333
>If you have a 3 hour raw show, why the fuck is the women's section 10 minutes?
Why do they deserve 10?
They're not even good. They should have their own little one-hour show in the place of Superstars and let the Men actually wrestle on Raw.
>>1262169
MY NAME IS ENZO AMORE FROM PAYBACK
AND I AM HURTLING INTO THE ROPES
AND YOU CAN'T...............
>>1262616
me and ur mum
>>1262711
Yeah, we should only watch talented REAL men like Reigns & >Miz!
>>1262720
and ryback
>>1262720
When did I ever say they were good, though?
In-fact, considering they're low-tier Male wrestlers, and are still above the vast majority of the Divas by quite the leap, it kinda firms my point.
>>1262723
>by quite the leap
lel
>>1262724
Guess I win.
>>1262725
How autistic
>>1262727
Iwinlol
>>1262344
Hello orungutano
>>1262723
Reigns & Miz are literally worse than every woman who's wrestled for their current title.
>>1262730
'no'
>>1262740
this. miz is mediocre at best and can't have a good match without being carried. some autists just can't bear to admit that a woman is better than a man at pretend fighting. roman is slightly less mediocre
>>1262755
> Dean Mark
kys
>>1262758
Miz is one of the best heels in WWE right now ya fucking mark. Hes a great wrestler.
>>1262616
Your mom and her black lover
>>1262761
good character does not equal good wrestler. He can talk. He can't put on an interesting performance in ring.
>>1262616
Me and your dad
>>1262761
> great wrestler
> botches Figure-4
>>1262616
Your dad and his secret boyfriend
>>1262616
my mother and your isster
>>1262771
>implying every single womens """"""""""wrestling""""""""" match isn't a botchfest.
>the state of cuckbrose fans
How are you delusional fags going to spin the fact that ratings consistently drop every single time he's on screen.
>>1262779
That's just not true
>>1262778
I'm outright stating they aren't.
Where's the botch in Bayley vs. Asuka? Go on, if they're so prominent, finding just 1 should be easy for you.
>>1262783
>Watching memeXT
I've got better things to do than watch that bullshit. Just face it, womens """"wrestling""" a shit. You can admit it your waifus arent watching fag ;^)
>>1262779
> this year's RAWafterMania is the lowest-rated since the 90s
Romarks are pathetic. Dumb frogposter.
>>1262781
It's literally an objective fact. Every single week, the ratings show this. You can only live in your fantasy world where Dean Cuckbrose is more than a no talent fag who shouldn't still be in 50 capacity Cincinnati bingo halls for so long.
>>1262786
>I'm too scared to face up to being wrong
ftfy
Reminder that Shield all suck
>>1262791
"No" i just have better things to do ;^)
Also i guarantee that match is a botchfest.
>>1262788
Ambrose isnt a cuck. He does the cucking
>>1262803
Sitting around shooting baby tier loads of cum onto photos of Noelle, smoking and shitposting doesn't seem terribly important
>>1262786
So...you can't? Thanks for admitting I'm right.
> I've got better things to do
Judging by your activities on here, no, you really fucking don't.
WHAM BAM
THANK YOU MA'AM
>>1262786
> waifus
> fag
You've never even got a platonic hug from a non-relative female, have you?
>>1262803
>i wish i was home singing the czw theme
did beeg and reigns ever do a spot where the ko punch connected with the superman punch and it was all anime and shit
Where will Ryback go after he's future endeavored?
>>1262803
i wonder how people would react if a male brought a sexually suggestive sign to a photo with a female superstar
Starting to wonder if people here watch anything more than the WWE recap youtube clips. You all can't be so stupid.
>>1262831
Hopefully into TNA with the rest of the garbage nobody wants
>>1262837
why on earth would you actually sit down and watch raw
>no longer daily ryberg post
it's like rycucks having a mass suicide
>>1262817
I fucked last night
>>1262837
i bet her cock is so great
>>1262853
> claims women's matches are botchfests
> can't even find 1 in the match suggested
Was there anything worth catching on raw?
>>1262848
If he leaves, I'll be genuinely a bit disappointed, because he had actually improved a lot as of late, but a lack of TV time and shit reputation amongst fans – partly warrant, partly unfair – means he never got an iota of his deserved commendations.
>>1262859
No need to "find" one they're all botchfests ;^)
>>1262874
btfo
Daily reminder
>>1262874
kek how will '''''''''''''women's''''''''''''''''' '''''''''wrestling'''''''' recover
>>1262881
savage!
>>1262874
So finding one shouldn't be difficult for you at all, yet somehow you just can't do it.
>>1262881
Oh fuck, kek
>>1262881
based
>>1262881
Thats not me retard
>>1262881
>tfw i was the one who posted the monkey
>>1262881
Medium kek
Not worth a screenshot at all though
>>1262881
>Not using clover
Sasha burial incoming
>>1262917
But this is
>>1262928
REKT
>>1262928
kek
>>1262928
Based Dean Mark
>>1262928
Nice.
>>1262925
this bitch is overrated as fuck and never got pinned.
i'm glad one of the higher ups browses here.
>>1262925
>waah i'm one of the most protected women in wwe history
>waah i'm guaranteed to be champ after summerslam
Reminds me of crybaby Phil
>kana
>>1262960
Could you not
>>1262960
top kek.
kys horsefucker
>people repyling to Carter
Could you not?
>>1262968
'no'
>>1262259
But Sullivan murdered the Benoits.
>>1262259
Sure, a great feel you have never felt
>>1262758
The Miz cuts good promos though, he gets good heat.
Reigns has a lot of boos, but at least those niggas cares, vaudevillains walk out like kevin dunn muted the crowd.
>>1262983
OOOH SNAP
>>1262968
kys ya manlet nerd
>>1262968
kys ya manlet nerd
>>1262740
xD
well meme'd friend.
If Roman died tomorrow, would he be inducted into the HoF?
>>1262740
Indeed
>>1263005
They'd leave it until 2018. Next year is for le goat man
would you?
>>1263033
'no'
would lick her lovely milk skin though
>>1263033
Yes
>>1262740
Would you?
>>1263033
Sniff her farts? Yes i'd like that very much
>>1262960
if shes that great why dont you tell me about her great matches that arent from NXT or years ago shes been on the mainroster for a while so she must have great matches since shes so good. .
> the only botch she did that was her fault was in the bayboon match
wrestlemania and the sunset flip botch against becky are the ones that come to mind first.
>>1263046
>le sunset flip was SashA+'s fault meme
That's on potato brain like every other botch
>>1263044
Shes so flat though. Teethy too so blow jobs arent great.
>>1263044
Sniff her farts? Yes i'd like that very much
Ryback or Rose released yet?
Would you?
>>1263044
i would love to suckle her cute little tiddies and lick that navel
>>1263067
Until my dick falls off
>>1263067
Sniff her farts? Yes i'd like that very much
>>1263067
kys reddit horsefucker fag
Reigns couldn't get over if his life depended on it
B A S E D E A N can get a fucking plant over with but a mere thought
>>1263067
yes very much so.
>>1263078
>every person that likes Charlotte is me
wew
>>1263082
reddit unironically believe this is 'thick'
>>1263080
kek.
someone needs to change it to cheeseburgers
>>1263067
I already have a fridge no thanks.
>>1263085
kys horsefucker
>>1263082
>the consequences of american life
>Vince trying to get Trump the gay community vote with this Backlund/Young gimmick
Who /littlepope/ here?
>>1263101
>>1263101
kek
>women's '''''''''wrestling''''''' fans
Paige had no time to finish her sentence when Brie wiggled her finger between two of Paige's toes.
"Hey Nikki, what was that song mom used to sing?" And with that, the twins began wiggling Paige's toes, singing a different version of 'This Little Piggy'.
"This little goth was ticklish under her arms.... This little goth was ticklish on her ribs... This little goth was was ticklish on her tummy... This little goth was ticklish on her legs... And this little goth was ticklish ALL OVER HER FEET!"
20 long, slender digits skittered all over Paige's pale soles.
"BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEHEEK!" Nikki was now using the shaft of both her feathers across Paige's feet, making sure to get the sensitive skin under the toes.
"NOHOHOHOHOHO! NHAHAHAHAHAT THE TOHOHOHOHOHOHOES, NAHAHAT THE TOHOHOES!" But this only egged Nikki on more, sawing in between those adorable little piggies.
"Nikki, move over, I want a turn!"
"Be quiet Brie!" Nikki barked, clearly enjoying herself more every minute. "Go... Make some tea or something! Let's see how long it takes before she snaps..." Brie left in a huff, and as soon as the door closed, Nikki gave Paige's sole a quick kiss. She then held up an electric toothbrush.
"Now that the warm up round is finished, it's time to get real...
>>1263183
>enyone here wana have a sex chat
>dude is 20 years old
>>1262139
Is this what caused HHH to sperg out and end the Kurt/Steph angle
>>1262252
He has said many times he won't come back from retirement because he wants to leave on a good note and with "a lot left in the tank".
He talked about it on Russo's podcast of all places.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C6kln6pKKM
>rusev's wedding probably gonna be on total divas
GOAT season incoming
>>1262274
self made
>>1263395
Rusev drips and oozes charisma out of every pore. Might actually start watching Total Divas with him on it
>>1263449
AYYY
>>1263449
Get clover nigga
>>1263449
What am i supposed to be seeing here?
> TFW Charles Robinson is getting some muscular pussy and your not
>>1263510
nah lil naitch charles robinson is banging some milf, hes probably known Charlotte too long.
>>1263510
If a 5'5'' old manlet can get pussy then you can too anon. Theres no excuse
>>1263395
Let's hope he releases the tapes when he retires.
>>1263510
WWE must have new makeup guys or something. I've noticed Charlotte and Steph have been looking smoking recently, never really did it for me before.
>>1263624
Charlotte has always looked good desu. Steph as well as long as she dosen't smile
>>1262273
GOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLDBEEEEEEEEERG
>>1263624
Charlotte has been sexy af since she turned heel
CERO
>>1263110
Should use the E&C show moment where they BTFO Phil
Can someone post the Cena posting "Please lose weight" .gif, please?
So I started my free trail of WWE after watching a bunch of clips on youtube
Anyone know why videos aren't playing? The PG thing at the beginning plays and then LOADING FOREVER
Using chrome on debian
I'm not gonna >you those shitty comics. Not only did someone take the time to make one, they made two. Jesus, do 90% of you fuckers really not have a job? College? Anything?
>>1262344
>Hello orungutano
>>1263675
>says the namefag
Why don't you move to Reddit since you need to distinguish yourself from others?
>>1263627
>give me gooooooldbeeeeeeeeeeeerg!
>>1263675
>B the Kuck
>>1263680
>le name meme
That all you have? You gonna tell me to lose weight next?
>I only speak in memes
>mfw
>>1263685
Please hit the gym
>>1263675
Took me less time to make those comics than it does for you to finish eating dinner you fat fuck.
>>1263649
Here senpai
Who's more likely to have a shawn michaels esque comeback?
Edge or Daniel Bryan?
>>1263706
Bryan. Edge is held together by spit and glue
>Shane's music hits too late
>Stephanie is forced to let out that hilarious "MMMMMEEEEEEEEEEE"
Best moment of Payback
>>1263706
bryan
edge already has his going currently
Natalya's theme is very good, shame she's a jobber.
>>1263721
She's got the second highest power level in the women's division right now m8. For another three weeks at least.
>>1263413
>"Where does it write in a WWE contract that you need to be a 5% body fat greek god build wise to be in it? Because i am pretty fucking sure its not required."
>>1263706
Neither one of them is going to come back. Their injuries could kill/benoit them or paralyze them, Shawn just had a really bad back that got repaired by surgery and ended up with a little less cartilage in his back. It hurts but you are not going to die. Personally I would rather see Edge then D.Bry if it could happen though.
>>1263733
all kevin owens fans can be the next kevin owens
>>1263706
Michaels himself with how fucked up Edge and Bryan are
i came in here for hot cucking action
what is going on here, fellas?
>>1263753
he should sign me i look like kevin owens too.
>>1263753
why do you keep pictures of old fat men on your computer?
>>1263758
>"And yet he moves faster than most and is capable of extremely long matches."
>>1263750
>one of us
>>1263750
>one of us
>>1263750
>one of us
>>1263750
> one of us
>>1263750
>one of us
>>1263750
>one of us
This cunt is still using the Shield attire and music. Unbelievable. At least they dropped the entrance through crowd.
I cant fucking stand redditors.
>>1263750
>>1263705
thanks mate
daily reminder that it's the /woo/ niggers coming here with the "le anti smark" meme.
>>1263844
>I'm offended:(
What a baby. Also why do they all have names? Are they that autistic?
Alright lads, give me a good Steve Austin match
>>1263858
Bret Hart at wm 13
>>1263857
i don't know.
i just lurked for a few minutes because everyone here always trashes that site, apparently people from there do browses here i guess
>>1263858
Vs HBK at King of the Ring 1997
>no cable
>WWE network wont fucking play on my laptop
>tfw when will never enjoy wrassslin
>>1263857
It's like that april fools joke we got on here this year, expect those fags have it on 24/7
>>1263858
THIS TIME I'MMA LET IT ALL COME OUT
THIS TIME I'M GONNA STAND UP AND SHOUT
I'MMA DO THINGS MY WAY, IT'S MY WAY
MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY
hello pedo mod
I'm here
>>1263750
>one of us
Eric Young look a bit nervous during his NXT debut. Can't really blame him though, that was easily the biggest crowd he's ever performed in front of
How good will his singles career be?
He's practically a 7 ft tall Edge
tag team when
>>1263750
>top cringe
>>1263899
CH-CH-CH-CHECK OUT MY MELODY
>>1263971
hope it's good, I like him (he's not enzo on the mic tho)
I recently noted he doesn't shout out loud "and I've got ONE WORD to describe you" anymore since the time he squeaked it a couple weeks ago
IT'S TIME TO FUCK MY SHIT
>>1263971
hes already using the powerbomb, big sexy just needs to give him a few more tips and hes ready.
>>1264018
When is he coming back?
>>1264018
Did Haitch bury himself?
>>1263977
If he gets released, soon.
hello ped-o mod
>tfw you tried to do an angle where you fuck your own daughter
>>1264105
>tfw your daughter turned it down in favor of an angle to make out with your former rival
>tfw you weren't invited to the skype group
Spent days working on my gimmick too fåm
Daily reminder CM Punk left this for a boy.
>>1263750
>Kevin Owens is considered """""normal""""" in USA
>>1263005
If Roman pulled a Chris Benoit would Vince be pissed because Roman's family didn't make him look strong.
>>1264423
"Mommy why does daddy keep saying BULEEB DAT!" ?
Just make him look strong, sweatie. Big smile for the 11 o clock news.
>>1264423
>Roman spears his family
>Puts bibles beside them
>Points at bible
>BULEEB DAT
>>1264521
Based Dean Mark bullying the janny again
>>1264522
I'M NOT A BAD GUY
I'M NOT A GOOD GUY
I'M SATAN
BULEEB DAT
>>1263082
more Paige booty please
Top kek and I know its the janny because hes deleting all my comments but can't ban me kekekekekekekekek
>>1263844
I created Anti-smark and my first IWC was /wwe/. It started here and spread elsewhere