boxing/martial arts/mma/general fighting

I would probably cut a 15 minute promo calling him a fat manlet nerd. Then while he charges at me i hit him with a steel chair after that dirty-deeds him onto the steel chair

Kicks obviously.
Also watch some "Butterbean" fights.
Dude is legit King Hippo mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUmIrToZvW0

>>1260317
Tire the fatty out first. They don't have as much speed and agility as someone not fat as fuck does, they're easy to fight desu. Just dodge, move, then destroy his jaw.

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>>1260317
>How do you take down a King Hippo type motherfucker if you cant hit them in the face?

You could target the knee, groin, Achilles tendon, maybe previous injuries.

Despite being so fat, his spine could still be pretty exposed, but he's more of an opponent to get around, but that also makes him slower to turn.

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>>1260722
>then destroy his jaw.
That might prove to be a problem.
His neck/chin fat is a pretty good cushion against punches. However, he has a lot less fat around his temples.

>>1260317
As far as grappling goes, timing and speed are the way to go. At least, that's how I take down that type of people most easily.

>>1260706
most sports dont allow kicking

>be Boxing for 4 years
>have 2 best friends
>we go to place hide and go seek in the woods one day
>it seems kind of off, but I go anyway
>we get to woods
>we walk into woods
>one friend gets me to the ground and mounts me
>friend tells other friend to stab me
>I get stabbed 19 times
>I get stabbed in the chest and it almost goes through my heart
>I manage to somehow crawl out of the woods out of pure instinct for survival
>tfw I wish I took BJJ instead of Boxing

youtube.com/watch?v=XQZzJpRWFCY

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>throw side kick to a nigga's head
>nigga does some lean back dodge move, looks pretty fly
>his leg is all exposed though
>stomp the fuck out of that shit
>breaking knees and shit

>>1261792
Most sports allow kicking.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lb45iLV5Uw

>>1261792
>>1262043

>wrestling
>judo
>BJJ
>boxing
no kicking

>tae kwon do
>karate
>muay thai
>sanda/sanshou
kicking

Martial Arts noob here. What would be good to try out? Kickboxing or Kyokushin Karate? I'm pretty /fit/, if that matters at all

>>1260317
Well let's see how Ernesto Hoost took down Bob Sapp until Hoost thought he was too manly to not try to stand and exchange with him

>Kick him in the legs until he can't walk

Just don't do the second part Hoost did

>Allow the bigger guy to break his hands on your face

>>1260722
>they're easy to fight desu

I bet that's why weight classes don't exist.

>600lbs vs 169 lbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI

>>1260722
>i shall win because my speed is superior

>>1260317
>martial arts/general fighting
I'm going to assume weapons are included.

Staff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rico0kSItHM&feature=youtu.be

I sparred a friend with some thin bamboo that was around 40-50 inches long.

We first went 1-handed for a round, and then went 2-handed for another round.

I haven't sparred with weapons in a while, the experience reminded me of how the distancing and speed really differs.
It also reminded me of how more damage can be done when targeting the opponent's arms, as well as the legs.

A few days after that, I did some hand to hand combat sparring (Kickboxing) and I figured I could just target my opponent's arms, and I proceeded to punch my opponent in his arms when he was covering up.
I'm thinking of incorporating targeting my opponent's limbs more now, besides how I already like to kick my opponent(s) in the leg(s).

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>>1263835
gotcha senpai

>>1260752
Holy shit! Thats a good picture. Is there any way to make your jaw stronger. You know to take punch. I want a brandon rios chin chavez sr chin.

>>1262023
Wtf? Why they stab you?

How do I find a good escrima dojo? Are they common in Southern California? Seems like most would just be hopping on the Bourne hype train.

>>1263398
bump

>>1263835
>i'm too fat to move

>>1264832
>Is there any way to make your jaw stronger.
Chew bubble gum and listen to mental music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U_k1q66cTY

Besides that, maybe Boxing-chan knows some exercise.

>>1263398
Kickboxing is more practical.

>>1263398
They're both pretty much Kickboxing, to be honest; but Kyokushin includes knees and elbows, as well as other kinds of arm strikes.
There is often no arm strikes to the head in Kyokushin Karate fighting and sparring.
Body conditioning is a pretty integral part of Kyokushin Karate, unlike a lot of Kickboxing.
You know your body is going to be transformed into a tank going into Kyokushin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQBBSLtReNk

Kyokushin tends to be taught in a more formal way, while Kickboxing can be very casual. The formality varies throughout gyms, but it's generally less formal than Karate.

Also, some Kickboxing might have less leg kicks than Kyokushin.

American Kickboxing is kind of like Western Boxing + Kicks; no leg kicks in American Kickboxing.

Kick that fat nigga in the knee

bamp

>anon who believes information should be free and is doing his part

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDNoL8MDsc-CcVykawzDN95tpG04tWsoP

anon is a good guy

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Mastoid Process strike.

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Reminder: You can kick someone in the calf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0coXvWiT1PQ
>switching stances
>calf kick
>overhand
>mastoid process punch
I like this guy.

>>1260317
>How do you take down a King Hippo type motherfucker if you cant hit them in the face?
focus your chi energy

Any boxingfags here? I've got a jump rope problem. Every time I start skipping my achilles tendons get a bit sore. It'll start up after 10 or 20 skips, and that's only if I take a few minutes to warm my ankles and calves up first. What do I do?

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>>1269133
>Wolfman

That fucking guy, kek.

I personally have used calf kicks for quite awhile since learning them from the STX Kickboxing tapes. A few months back on the prelims or maybe preprelims in the UFC there was a really fucking brutal example. Dude kicked the fuck out of the guys calf, just fucking destroyed him. Anyone remember who was in that fight? Want to watch it again.

I remember coming into the gym that week and our head coach had some stuff written on the board about calf kicks for the fighters having watched the same match. Wish I had been present to see what they were working

>>1269707
Don't jump rope.

>>1269707
Don't jump rope for a little while.

>>1269745
>I personally have used calf kicks for quite awhile since learning them from the STX Kickboxing tapes.
I remember mentioning calf kicks in a thread a while ago, and then some anon mentioning that calf kicks were mentioned in the STX series, and then me mentioning to myself that I could use calf kicks more, and then mostly forgetting about them, and then recently remembering them and then making an effort in training them more now.

>Want to watch it again
I don't think I watched that, I want to see it, though.

>>1264834
They really like slender man and wanted to sacrifice my dead body to him after finding his mansion in the woods.

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Is FMA + Stun Baton the best martial art for self defense?

>>1270386
The best martial art for self defense is the art of not being somewhere dangerous in the first place

>>1270402
yeah just stay home locked in your room for your whole life

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>>1270402
But the location of danger is not static. The danger moves as people, people's intention, and people's actions, change.
Nowhere is completely safe. Don't you remember 9/11?

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I'm only a 5'8'' manlet, but I hold myself with the confidence of a 5'10'' manlet thanks to martial arts.

When your opponent is cutting angles on you, do not think your opponent had bested you in that moment.

Your opponent did not cut angles on you.
Your opponent simply cut your angles for you.

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Last night, I read a Sports Authority email, something about 140 or something stores closing, and there being sales or something.

After I went to bed said night, I had a dream. In that dream after meeting 2 business acquaintances while I was with a friend, we all drove to some building, and upon entering the building, there was a lot of sports equipment.

On sale were Venum MMA gloves for only $25; small, medium, large, all on sale for the price of $25.
Not only were the gloves on sale, but the headgear was on sale. The head gear was $25.

I woke up a little disappointed.

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I made this short comic to help people learn some ways to grapple a dog.

Theoretically speaking, I have a Muay Thai fight in one week.

Should I stop sparring right now, so I'm not physically damaged for this fight?

Should I not exercise about 3 days before the fight to make sure my muscles are as close to 100% as I can get?

If I have trouble sleeping if I don't exercise for a few days, would melatonin be enough to compensate?

What's this thing about carb loading the night before the fight?

Let's say I have to wake up at 4pm for the fight, which is kind of early for me because I work nights.
My team wants me to come in to get some pre-fight prep an hour before the fight at the venue. The event starts at 6pm.
How should I eat that day?
When should I eat that day?
How should I hydrate myself?

I don't want to have to take a piss during the fight.

>>1271477
Don't spar.
Don't exercise at least 2 days before, being sore during a fight is stupid.
Get a shit-ton of sleep.
Eat carbs for energy.
Don't eat like a fucking pig, just eat lightly, you don't want to feel all ballooned up for a fight. Drink water as normal, and don't worry, you'll be pissing a shit ton before your fight, everyone does because of nerves.

>>1269745
>>1269932
Diego Sanchez vs. Ricardo Lamas, round 2. I'm a big fan of calf kicks so I was freaking out when I saw it happen.

>>1262031
>that picture
10/10 editing skills my man

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>>1262031
>>1272458

>tfw they're actually just fighting in front of the Teen Titans Tower.

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>>1263552
>That pissed off look as he has to walk around trying to catch that guy
>Not even keeping his guard up
>Just all like "Man, why's it gotta be like this?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIVD85VfZTs

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Do I need to warm up before stretching if I've just taken a shower?

Specifically, stretching for kicking flexibility.

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Can some people weight in on some stances?

What are the main fighting stances used in Boxing fights?
What is a True Boxer's Stance?

What are the main fighting stances used in Savate fights?
Is there a True Savateur's stance?

Is there a certain way most general Kickboxers stand when they fight other Kickboxers?
Is there a True Kickboxer's Stance?

What about Muay Thai?

What about Collegiate Wrestling?

Judo?

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu?

JuJutsu?

>>1274156
What about Sanda/Sanshou?
Any CMA-friends have any input?
When CMA practitioners spar or fight, what stances do they use?

What about styles that haven't been named in these posts?

Kajukenbo?

Capoeira?

What about MMA fighters?

Does anyone dare use hybrid stances?

Anyone switch between stances?

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Do Karate fighters use this stance a lot when they fight?

>>1274170
I can't speak for all CMA, but at my school people usually use a 50-50 weight distribution with one foot slightly ahead and hips square to the opponent. Lead hand further out then the reverse and just under eye level, while the reverse is ready to follow through with a power hit.

>>1274280
High-back can be useful for combative (lead leg) kicks, allowing for you to simply rock back and have the foot position to engage your hips into front/side-heel/roundhouse.

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I does a fighting today against a hungers.

>>1274280
It was pretty common back when I did tang soo do

What's the point of wearing a gi for grappling martial arts? Wouldn't training without a gi be more practical?

>>1279512

It would, but a gi is traditional.

>>1279512
You say that like people don't wear clothes when they get in street fights

>>1279556

But people don't wear gis when they get in street fights either. Even if you put forward that a gi is "similar enough" to modern Western clothing, it's still not as similar to a T-shirt as a T-shirt is.

>>1279572
It's more similar to a t-shirt than a rashguard is. Also, spoiler alert, a shit ton of people wear hoodies.

>>1279583

So why not wear hoodies instead of gis?

>>1279606
It's funny how the martial arts /asp/ circle jerks around are TMAs and /asp/ bashes on TMA all the time.

>>1271355
>I'm too slow to react
>I belong in a higher weight class

>>1261967
Why does the guy getting kick go backwards instead of forwards with the momentum of the kick he was hit with?

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>>1269932
That was definitely me. Get the STX tapes or get a membership to Paulson's website (25 per monthg, can cancel after a month if you just want to see them).

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>>1271477
Light sparring, heavier work on bag and pads.

That's how you're supposed to train anyways. That's how they train in Thailand.

>>1280956
Chi Energy

>>1270386
>>1270402
Bad guys can't beat you up they can't get you.

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>>1281479
>>1270386
>>1270402
>>1270437
>>1270773

Why is Parkour so underrated on /asp/?

Why don't more people on /asp/ practice Parkour?

It's really fun
It requires no equipment whatsoever
and It's completely free
It also ties into climbing, climbing-fags should be in to that
Not to mention how it's so great for self defense.

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>>1281498
I'm still here, and with me runs the flame that is Parkour.
I still stand, and so, I hold the torch so my fallen brethren no longer have to.
As long as I still stand, walk, run; as long as I still Parkour, Parkour will NEVER die!

these guys like such so much right?

lol this fight is like amateur hour

like no school of Kickboxing teachers to be so flat footed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehxZ_WMW_0I

lol they're like those Catalyst MMA guys MIrite?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viyo7lo8Wc8

they're so flat footed lol they suck

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A 1ft chin attachment would be very useful in a fight.
It's like having an extra fist right on your face, you won't need to headbutt anymore.
It would be very useful in a clinch, where you could smack someone with your chin.

Add a knife attachment and you're one dangerous mother fucker.

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>>1262023
>2 best friends

>bjj

We're "pretending" here since it didn't happen but,

Boxing was the absolute best thing you could've taken. BJJ is murder city if you got more than one guy on you.

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>>1270784

>5'10

>MANLET

>SPEAKING ILL OF TYSON

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT IRON MIKE

>>1280967

Motherfucker!

Does the guy in black trunks still have a skull?

>>1274280
>>1274301

Caveat: This stance is only okay in striking-only sparring where contact below the belt is prohibited. You cannot defend your front leg or sprawl from this stance.

Your only defense against getting your leg kicked off or taken down is the rules.

>>1279606
Because tradiotion lol. Besides, gis are tough, so you won't accidentally be ripping your fucking street clothes all the time while practicing. Besides, there's nothing to stop someone from training with their friends in clothes someone might actually be wearing outside of classes.

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>>1282136
I personally fight in the nude

>>1282136
>so you won't accidentally be ripping your fucking street clothes all the time while practicing.
Gis used to be street clothes, but not all of them were tough like our training uniforms.

If we were to use the same concept, use a training uniform resembling every day clothing, we would some something along the lines of a hoodie and jeans.
But to apply it for training proposes, they would simply be made sturdy.

Personally, I have a few pair of True Religion jeans, and they're not just some fancy over-priced name-brand jeans.
The jeans are sturdy as fuck; they're thick and durable.
They came with quality, and even convenient pocket buttons other jeans don't have.

>>1282154
The only way. Do you also shave to be more aerodynamic?

>>1282154
Judo has better throws than Sambo, nerd.

>>1281489
I did a while back it was fun I just didn't enjoy it as much as fighting which is probably why i just forgot about it.

>>1260317
learn from the master
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywXWaZv5I0U

>>1283680
For some reason I want to get a mullet and listen to 1980s music now.

>choking your opponent with your jacket

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpBdsGmfhDM

>>1274296
How do you like the stance of your school? Do you think the extra power having your hips squared gives you is worth the cost of giving your opponent an easier torso target?
What's the kicking to punching ratio you guys use or you use? What kinds of kicks do you use most and what types of kicks do you focus on?

>>1279509
How do you compare it to other stances?

>>1284016
>>1284021
>How do you compare it to other stances?
It worked all alright considering where it was being used for. I didn't have to worry about things like leg kicks or punches to the face so I suppose it sort of developed around that. Good for shifting your weight onto your back leg for front leg kicks.

>>1283973
Fun Fact: Knives deal more damage to you if your gi isn't covering your body.

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Goju-Friend.

How's your leg doing?

How does getting your leg stabbed effect your kicks?

How is your flexibility?

How are you dealing with scar tissue?

Here's a banger of a question for you. What is the MOST POWERFUL strike a human being can do?

Regardless of how impractical it would be in an actual fight, if my opponent is standing still and I had 1 attack to make. What strike and where to is going to do the most damage?

>>1260706
>just kick him in the fucking head

Works for me.

>>1280963
>Get the STX tapes or get a membership to Paulson's
It's on my to do list.

>>1284226
>What is the MOST POWERFUL strike a human being can do?
A pelvic thrust. Once you inseminate the female, the female will bear offspring, of who's impact upon the world will be all your damn fucking fault.

>>1260706
>Not posting the best Butterbean fight
>Not working the low single to heel hook
>not robot dancing before the fight

Fucking plebs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_TkJcMZm6s

>>1284226
Boxing uppercut has the most lbs/sq inch, according to some gay violent mythbuster show I saw about the various martial arts. Although a flying tackle is the single most forceful attack a human can launch, it's application in a fight is limited and situational.

>>1284021
I find it useful and would object about it being an easier torso target. The elbows create plenty of protection when engaged properly, and the stance offers more back protection where it really counts. The ratio of kicks to punches really depends on the person, we try to guide people to use what work best for them. However the most important kicks of the school are the front thrust, side heel, roundhouse, and spinning back.

>>1284226
Spinning back kick

>>1284561
Spinning back thrust kick to be more accurate, not the side kick version.

/asp/ where do I learn to beat the shit out of people without paying out the ass?
I'm extremely cheap and would rather DIY everything but it seems like this is one thing I can't self learn

>>1284608
Correct, with your heel rotated up.

>>1284619
Why do you want to beat the shit out of people? Are you wanting to compete in a combat sport or do you want self defense?

>>1284638
Self defence mostly. And of course to feed my manlet ego.

>>1284638
The mule kick. Fuck, i remember when I learned the spinning back thrust kick in Muay Thai class. We weren't doing it hard when drilling, and it still sucked. Very powerful. When you hold the pads for it, it is frightening.

>>1284675
It also can line up perfectly for a liver strike
>the head of my school demonstrated that on a newer student by accident tonight

>>1284665
How tall are you?

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>>1284665
Self defense isn't about being able to beat the shit out of people, it's just a bonus for those that want to compete. From the mentality you seem to have, an mma gym would work best for you, but you would be looking at least $100/month.

>feeding your ego when it's already full

>>1284695
5'6''. I realize I'd get demolished by anyone bigger or who knows how to fight.
Just this weekend I got harassed by some hobo who started following me. Nothing happened, but if shit went down I wouldn't have been able to do much.

>>1284561
>Spinning back kick
But what about the jumping spinning back kick?

>>1284619
>/asp/ where do I learn to beat the shit out of people without paying out the ass?
If you want to beat the shit out of street fighting people, so people who can't fight, or people who learn street Boxing, you could do Boxing + YouTube kicking tutorials.
If you end up getting grappled, you're fucked.
You could supplement with YouTube grappling tutorials, but as /asp/ will scream at you, you get the best bang for your effort by joining a school.
YouTube alone and a buddy to practice with is enough for a large majority of fights.
One single week of Krav Maga gives you a pretty good chance of defending yourself against typical low-class criminals.

>>1284226

I'd guess punch directly onto the Adam's apple? You could potentially kill someone with one such blow, I think.

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>>1284665
>Self defence
>>1284619
Parkour. The best chance you have of not getting hurt is getting away from the thing that could hurt you.

>>1281489
>parkour-gifs-20-gifs_9.gif

You can't always get away, so you should supplement with Krav Maga.
Want to know what's better than Krav Maga, though? Goju Karate.
Goju Karate is objectively the very best martial art ever.

>striking
>grappling
>mixing striking and grappling
>self defense
>self development
>exercise
>meditation
Goju Karate has got it all.

You should do Goju even if it costs $500 a month.

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>>1284226
>>1284665
It's possible that you'd have to defend yourself against a highly skilled MMA fighter that's taller than you and weighs more than you.
That's why you should Do Goju Karate.

>>1284837
You're removing your grounding when you do flying attacks. I think the gain in momentum is canceled out but the lack of contact, making them essentially the same.

>>1260317
Just keep hitting him over and over again in a sensitive spot like the liver.

>>1284665
>manlet
Go boxing. Manlet boxers have always been a thing, and the cheapest arts that have a relatively consistent quality are usually boxing or judo.

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>>1284178
>>1282014
You can still check from a bladed stance, it's just not usually as practical as another stance, not to mention how you could simply pivot into a more neutral stance while checking from a bladed stance.
Also, you can just dodge, footwork is basics, m80.
Low blocks and parries exist.

As shown in the gif, just step back; easy.

As said in the video, getting your back to the box limits a movement based fighter.

Having watched the video a few times, it seems as if the Boxer had trouble using footwork to defend simply because of his lack of aggression. Due to his trouble with getting passed kicking range, he was unable to be more offensive, while the Kickboxer's offense caused the Boxer to be more defensive - and the Boxer not being able to control and say in the center of the ring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7bbmjtAB0
>"The most efficient and effective way to defend are to move out of the way or to adopt a "neutral stance.""

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>>1282014
>You cannot sprawl from this stance.
Nonsense.
gif related

>>1284323
This, TBQH.

>>1289119
You moved your hips forward. That is worse than useless.

>>1289210
Whatever you say, boss.

>>1289210
Whatever you say, kiddo.

>>1271397
kek

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>>1289119

>>1289095
>You can still check from a bladed stance, it's just not usually as practical as another stance, not to mention how you could simply pivot into a more neutral stance while checking from a bladed stance.
>Also, you can just dodge, footwork is basics, m80.
>Low blocks and parries exist.

>low blocks

Wait...you think you can gedan barai a low kick. You're no fighter.

I can't believe you keep posting this video of you dicking around in a park like you're proud of it.

>>1284608
The side snap kick isn't even a real technique, to be honest. I've never seen video footage of it working, and I've been hit by hundreds of them in sparring to no effect (other than the other guy hurting his foot on my elbow). Probably the most useless "TMA" technique, even though it isn't traditional.

>>1289547
gr8 b8 m8

>>1289582
Not the guy you're responding to, but gedan barai is for protecting your lower abdomen (stomach and bladder). Below the waist you have to defend with your legs. Otherwise you have to put yourself out of position to get your arms where they need to be, which exposes you to getting punted in the head and is generally a no-no in karate in general. Head above shoulders above hips above feet, and all that.

>>1262006
Weed beats speed

>>1289589

I AM that guy, and anyone who has ever sparred with leg kicks being legal knows exactly what the fuck I'm talking about. Gedan barai can't be used to block kicks because it exposes your head and most importantly isn't a fucking block.

It's in the name, for fuck's sake. Gedan Barai. "Harau" means "to sweep," not block. Gedan barai is used to check a kick down after you've blocked it with your kamae. You absorb the kick, then use gedan barai to spin the guy around and wail on his kidneys or the backs of his legs.

You try to block my tibia with your ulna and your ulna's going to lose every time.

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>>1289855
the b8 is strong with this one

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>>1289927
Darth Sidious is a badass fighter.

Which Title handwraps were recommended in the OP of the last boxing general?
Where can I find Title stuff in Australia?
Do I have to get it online?
How good are these dodgy looking Australian brands (Sting, Morgan, Rock)?
Also what happened to the boxing generals anyway?

Double or single mouthguard?

>>1289927

Everything you disagree with isn't bait. Jesus fuck, /asp/ has the worst meme forcing dorks of any board.

What lower body exercises can I do to speed up my punches?

I can throw really quick punches using mostly the upper body but they don't have any power unless I put my legs into it and that always ends up slowing down my punches and I don't like it.

>>1291488
I don't know what they're actually called but I call them walking drills.

FightTips explains it well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTfUCuUFd0

Do that, as you get faster at it and more compact, you can punch quickly and with more power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWIqakxbyN8

>>1290514

>Which Title handwraps were recommended in the OP of the last boxing general?

Basic Title's

http://www.titleboxing.com/protection/handwraps-speedwraps/title-traditional-weave-handwraps

>Where can I find Title stuff in Australia?

They're based in Kansas or Kentucky in the US, so

>Do I have to get it online?

That. Titleboxing.com

>How good are these dodgy looking Australian brands (Sting, Morgan, Rock)?

Not too sure. From what I know they're a lot like Everlast in that the low-end stuff is toy crap, the high end stuff is good.

>Also what happened to the boxing generals anyway?

I have my first amateur fight in late June/early July. Between that and having to wrap up the end of the school year (I'm a teacher), I don't have time to update/answer regularly. At the end of May I should be able to pick them back up again.

>>1289119
That might be the worst sprawl I've ever seen

>>1283144
They have the same throws dipshit, except Sambo doesn't have Judo's retarded ruleset

>>1291544
Sambo doesn't allow chokes
Judo allows chokes
Way to show u dont train

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>>1283144
>>1291544
>>1291550
In regards to throwing, Sambo allows more throws. In fact, it is ironic that some of the original Judo throws from Kano are banned in Judo. Sambo has all the same throws plus all the ones that used to be apart of Judo.

Sambo does not allow chokes, if we are talking about international sport sambo (the most popular form), but combat sambo does. Also, freestyle sambo includes it, but that is really just an American thing and is pretty small. Judo does not allow any leg locks. Fair trade in my opinion for submissions.

>>1291578
what throws are banned? even with the leg grab rule since the past 4 years we have seen variants that dont involve grabbing the leg, kata gurama is still good, morote gari is still in there

and now because of the rules people have figured new moves to introduce into judo such as the mongol lift and inverted seoi nage

>>1291595
You just answered your own question. Throws than involve grabbing the legs. Variations aren't the same move and aren't necessarily as simple or effective.

Morote Gari.

Can't into Hi-C/single leg throws etc.

Also, Kani Basami.

>>1291607
Also

Metzgers

>>1291507
Thanks boxbro, good luck with all your stuff. Looking forward to the revival of boxgens.

>>1264832
Strengthen your neck it will absorb more impact and make it harder to knock you out with jaw shots.

>>1284226
Roundhouse kick

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>>1291507
>>1292009
Edit: Fuck, I just wanted to get the wraps & a Shock Doctor Pro mouthguard... Shipping costs 4x as much as the items, dammit.

Looks like my local store has the mouthguard, but curiously only in youth size and the colour seems to be different to the one linked on the pastebin too (although it seems to be the same product)
http://www.rebelsport.com.au/Product/Shock-Doctor-Pro-Mouthguard/42117601

They also seem to only have Sting & Everlast wraps. I might be able to find Adidas somewhere too, but I can't see how different handwraps could be. I'll probably pick up the Everlast ones along with the mouthguard, but is there anything to avoid when choosing wraps? I've seen buzzwords like elastic and mexican thrown around, not quite sure what they mean. I've already got a pair of Morgan handwraps but for some reason one side is like 15cm longer than the other side and the discrepancy is really bothering me, which is why I want a new pair.
http://www.rebelsport.com.au/Product/Everlast-Black-180-Hand-Wraps/42878502

>>1292761
>I'll probably pick up the Everlast ones along with the mouthguard, but is there anything to avoid when choosing wraps?

If shipping's that ridiculous then buy local because christ it's not worth it. I just don't like everlast because the velcro is weak and not durable.

>>I've seen buzzwords like elastic and mexican thrown around, not quite sure what they mean.

Elastic/Mexican wraps have a bit more stretch to them, which allows them to be wrapped a little tighter since they'll stretch and not cut off circulation. I'm not sure what the actual reason/origin behind it is but I prefer a little elasticity in my wraps.

>>I've already got a pair of Morgan handwraps but for some reason one side is like 15cm longer than the other side and the discrepancy is really bothering me, which is why I want a new pair.

That seems to be common. I've gone through three or four sets of wraps now where one side seems to be longer than the other, though I think it's more hand size and wrapping technique than anything, because when I hang them to dry they look about the same lengthwise,.

>>1284714
the hobo is the one with a shank and nothing to lose so really what you are looking for is a concealed carry permit

>>1291550
I train in both you fucking retard. Where the fuck did you even mention chokes? You just said that Judo has "better throws" which is fucking wrong since Sambo has all of Judo's throws and more. If you had said "judo has better chokes" then that might make sense.

>>1291692
You could hit that in judo? Or anywhere for that matter without going up against a blind retard?

>>1291499
Ehh, that's not really what I'm talking about. I should have explained better. Basically I'm having trouble accelerating my upper body forward fast enough. When you punch you have to throw your body forward with your legs and core (your feet stay planted where they are though or where they land on the step in) and rotate your torso and extend your arm. You make contact just as you're starting to come to the end of that lurch forward, and all that force is transferred into your opponent. If I just do a little flick forward I can punch really quickly because it doesn't take very long for my body to get to the end of the lurch so I can instantly extend my arm at full speed, but if more movement is required I need to wait longer before rotating the shoulders and extending the arm or I need to slow it down. Basically I don't like how slow my wind up is for harder punches.

Of course I know that that wind up is required to punch harder since the heavy weight of the body has a lot of inertia so it will take a while to accelerate, but that weight also transfers into a lot of force if you can get it moving. I just wanted to know if there were any exercises designed to strengthen the muscles involved. (other than just punching a lot).

>>1291578
>In regards to throwing, Sambo allows more throws.
So does BJJ :^)

>>1293054
>>1293054
Well, I don't think I can help you there outside of telling you to just practice it more on the heavy bag until it's more comfortable and thus easier/quicker.

I'm not sure I understand your description, because I was pretty much taught not to throw my body forward at all unless my feet work moving with them and to basically keep my shoulders over my hips and in between my feet. Additionally, I was taught that you really aren't supposed to wind up your punches at all and the power should be generated from your feet, not doing anything different with your hands/arms.

I'm not trying to say your style and technique are wrong, just that I was taught differently so my experience and technique isn't much help for you. Sorry =\

>>1293184
They certainly don't train them.

This guy has some interesting information and opinions about side kicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0rgVR46UOg

>>1293054
It might seem slow because you're not used to incorporating your legs in the techniques, and because your technique isn't as efficient, yet.

>>1293280
Hey, Benny. Would you mind pitching in on this >>1274156?

And what stance do you use?

>>1293513
Kay

>What are the main fighting stances used in Boxing fights?

Hands at cheeks, elbows in, knees bent, back straight. The biggest variation I see from the default stance is how far to keep the lead hand from the cheek.

Of course there are a lot of variations depending on boxer preference. The Philly/Michigan shell has the lead hand down at the waist, parallel to the ground and the rear hand in front of the cheek with a high shoulder to provide better defense and counters in certain situations. Foreman used a weird "mummy" stance that kept both his hands out really far. Tyson and most D'Amato disciples used the Peek-A-Boo (Hands tucked together in front of the face, making it look like the boxer is peeking over his hands) stance. Naseem and Roy Jones Jr kept their hands at their sides because of their athleticism and head movement.

>What is a True Boxer's Stance?

A name Marvin Cook likes to use for the default boxing stance he teaches. I use it because it's an easy way to identify and single out that specific stance as something you always return to and perform techniques out of. I see a lot of new guys get really sloppy with technique and try and transition too early without learning first to come back to it, then perform the next move (ie throwing a straight, then trying to slip to the right). Obviously in the beginning it's really slow and clunky, but in my experience it makes the transition movements smoother, more controlled, and eventually more compact.

>And what stance do you use?
I'm not much of an athlete and I have shit instincts, so I rely heavily on the True Boxer's Stance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjxxkrKk7o
My left hand drops too much, but you can see my base stance and how I constantly try to return to it after every technique, whether it's hitting or slipping, I do.

>>1293562
>The biggest variation I see from the default stance is how far to keep the lead hand from the cheek.
That's pretty interesting. It looks like having that lead hand further makes it easier to intercept and parry a punch.

>kept their hands at their sides because of their athleticism and head movement
At least their sides are protected lol.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRjxxkrKk7o
That's some pretty neat stuff you have in the notations.

>>1292851
No, I couldn't because grabbing the leg is banned.

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How did the intricate martial art of Goju Karate

get turned into the chest punching,
standing and trading,
tough guy contest that is Kyokushin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LMoxKQJgZo

>>1293707
>That's pretty interesting. It looks like having that lead hand further makes it easier to intercept and parry a punch.

That's a big part of it. Abother part of it is that is keeps the jab always present to the opponent.

>At least their sides are protected lol.

I mean like, hanging by his sides, not actively guarding.

>That's some pretty neat stuff you have in the notations

Thanks!

>STX Kickboxing
>if he shoots in for a takedown
>knee him in the face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSfIUk9IGG8

>>1292803
Weak velcro is a bit of a deal breaker for me. Gonna visit the store today, I'll see if I can find anything else.

I also thought the length difference was due to the things you mentioned, but it felt like too big of a difference to just be an error in that so I laid them flat on the floor and rolled them out. One side was definitely a lot longer, and my autism can't handle it. I hope it's not as common as you make it out to be.

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>>1294008
I remember having a dream that he came out with levels 6-10.

Last time I saw Erik, he said they were working on it. He told me what they were focusing on, but I forgot. He also showed me the proto-type for his crazy new Rashguard which they just launched (pic related). You probably wouldn't appreciate the lunacy in it unless you have been to one of his seminars.

He also launched his line of Organite charms:

http://csw-store.com/Orgonites/

I fucking love Erik. If you want a good chuckle:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77uOdtMGtrg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc5gLT0aSiU

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this huge bitch fucks my shit up every time

>>1294012
All good man. The game's really a mental one, so whatever keeps your mind on the fight and not distracted is worth doing!

>>1280956
head goes down but legs stay stable so it's like puling a pen back in your fingers and letting go

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>>1294242
I picked up the mouthguard and Everlast wraps. I tried them on, right out of the package it seems one side is significantly longer. I'll have to roll them out to be sure but I'm pretty confident there's quite a difference. One of my mates said maybe there's more cloth for your dominant hand, which I admit isn't something that occurred to me, but curious nonetheless.

>>1294269
No clue about that. I need to mark the longer one because I like having more wrap on my left. I tend to never have problems with form for my right but I know I get sloppy with my left and I'd rather it have more protection.

>>1284894
nice gif. makes it look like he went from a jump to a roll into another jump.

>>1294291
That's a good point, I'm actually the same way. I guess I'll try to make a habit of it. I have to say, though, the material on these Everlast wraps is much nicer than the Morgan ones.

>>1294291
>I need to mark the longer one
You might want to do that by sewing a line of thread at the end or something similar as apposed to using marker or something like that.

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The way of the samurai is found in death. Meditation of inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day when one's body and mind are at peace, one should meditate upon being ripped appart by arrows, rifles, spears, and swords; being carried away by surging waves, being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightening, being shaken to death by a great earthquake, falling from thousand foot cliffs, dying of disease, or comitting seppuku at the death of one's master. In every day without fail, one should consider himself as dead. This is the substance of the way of the samurai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB5LcFNLZk0

>>1293280

The reason people say the power of your punch comes from the feet is because you use your legs to move the weight of your body forward. Your arm is attached to your body and when the joints are locked, all that forward momentum is transferred into the point of contact.

Force = mass X acceleration. That means that the greater the mass you have moving and the faster it's moving, the greater force you will generate. If you throw a punch without using the legs it will be much weaker because you're not moving the heavy weight of your body forward, all you're doing is throwing the tiny mass of your arm and shoulder at them. This means it can be quicker but at the cost of power. The longer a body accelerates, the more velocity it will attain.That means that punches from the outside where you move your body forward for quite a ways generate more force. (You can make up for that on the inside by adding more torso rotation though.)

If someone really puts their weight into a punch the entire body's energy is being used to hurl itself toward the opponent. You don't necessarily need to make it a big motion, especially if you have a lot of muscles, but the more motion you do make, the more force you can generate. Try holding your arm straight near the bag and using your lower body to move it into the bag. Even without moving your arm at all, you can transfer a lot of force into the bag. A good punch aims to be essentially the same movement but with the added element of extending the arm and rotating the torso.

I'm basically just complaining that my knockout punches are slower than I'd like because I'm not strong enough to quickly accelerate my body forward. This acceleration (and catching it and recoiling) is extremely exhausting btw and it's why fighters have such incredible cores. You can throw fast and light punches all day but if you put power behind them it will exhaust you because you're moving more weight. More weight behind your punches = more power.

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>>1295631
>Try holding your arm straight near the bag and using your lower body to move it into the bag. Even without moving your arm at all, you can transfer a lot of force into the bag.

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A bag like this should be the standard for all styles that have leg kicks.

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Is it just me, or is the Netflix Original Dare Devil's fight choreography really gay?

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Being a Taekwondo practitioner is like being a foot sniper.

Infantry don't got shit on snipers.

>>1298476
Not worse than Arrows, the fights there look clumsy as fuck

>>1271383
Oh come on, Venum is already pretty cheap as it is.

>>1274170
>Sanda
Boxing stance with flat feet.

I started TKD training recently and am going to lessons when I'm able to. Is ten minutes practice of the basic white belt pattern followed by 10-15 minutes of kick practice 2-3 times a week good?

>>1260317
OP, don't be a fag and as this does not seem to have to do with anything "sports", be careful :D Don't underestimate bigger people. Maybe you can try to tire them out but if you catch one you're fucked (had people make the same mistake withe me).

>>1298456
No, it really shouldn't. All that will do is flop around really annoyingly. It gives you no advantage.

>>1299507
You can spend more time practicing at home.

>>1299721
Your opponents aren't just going to stand still like those normal punching bags, except for maybe Kyokushin practitioners.

>>1299738
Yeah, I can do that. Just don't want to go too mad since I'm a beginner. I figured starting out with that amount of training after a warmup would be a starting point.

>>1299920
A lot of it just depends on your fitness level. What else are you going to do with your time? Masturbate?

Moving to Russia for five years to study, want to start a martial art.
Is systema a meme and how do I avoid meme dojos
This would be my first martial art, but honestly I just want something very practical, not sure if systema fits but it would likely be plentiful in Russia

>>1301026
You should do Sambo.

It's one of the /asp/ approved martial arts.

Sambo is like Judo + Wrestling, as well as striking.
Judo is one of the /asp/ approved martial arts.

Combat Sambo is basically MMA, which transcends the /asp/ Boxing/Kickboxing/Kyokushin Karate/Muay Thai/Sanda/Sanshou + Judo/BJJ/Wrestling/Sambo meme.

>>1301026
>Is systema a meme and how do I avoid meme dojos
Systema is an outright scam.

Let me tell you the origin of Systema, as told by the guy who created it.

See, back in the good old days, Russians were master martial artists, who developed amazing techniques to fight Swedes, Germans and Mongols called Systema.

But then Communism happened and wiped out all the evidence of this, and created a super secret combat division of Systema practitioners and sent them on super secret missions. The communists also destroyed any evidence this happened, too.

Then in the 90s, a single member of this military unit comes forward, to teach this secret vodka magic, for a profit.

Kyokushin Karate full contact competition is just a huge slugfest.

Competitors literally stand there throwing lots of punches to each other's chests, throw some leg kicks, and maybe incorporate some head kicks, maybe and knees, rarely do you see elbows and other kinds of arm strikes.

Kyokushin Karate is weak when it comes to encouraging the training and application of intelligent fighting.

Kyokushin Karate is set back in Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Sanda/Sanshou, and MMA, competition because of the lack of head contact rules.

Kyokushin is especially unprepared for Muay Thai, Sanda/Sanshou, and MMA, because of the lack of grappling.
You can't even grab your opponent with one single hand while delivering a knee, unlike K-1. There's a complete lack of a clinch in Kyokushin Karate, unlike Muay Thai and Sanda/Sanshou.
You can't catch your opponent's kick in order sweep or throw your opponent in Kyokushin Karate, unlike Muay Thai and Sanda/Sanshou.

Kyokushin Karate sparring doesn't size up when it comes to Kickboxing sparring.
Kyokushin Karate sparring doesn't size up when it comes to Muay Thai sparring.
Kyokushin Karate sparring doesn't size up when it comes to Sanda/Sanshou sparring.
Kyokushin Karate sparring doesn't size up when it comes to MMA sparring.

>>1301354
Goju on the other hand...

>>1298937
>Infantry don't got shit on snipers.
>red gets TKOd by a roundhouse kick to the ass

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I just came up with a new super mega awesome ultimate MMA combination finishing move.

>opponent stand orthodox
>stand orthodox
>throw fake outside roundhouse calf kick
>switch to roundhouse outside though kick
>use kick to switch stances
>throw overhand right from southpaw
>clinch opponent with both hands and throw left knee from southpaw
>Tai Otoshi

>>1301444
Maybe it can be better.

>opponent stand orthodox
>stand orthodox
>skip in while throwing fake outside roundhouse calf kick
>switch to snap roundhouse outside thigh kick
>keep upper leg in position to throw another snap roundhouse outside kick, but to the lower ribs
>use kick to switch stances
>overhand right
>left knee from southpaw
>retract kick while throwing left elbow
>short range shoulder bump/tackle by using rear leg to push body forward
>clinch/left knee
>retract knee while turning body for Tai Otoshi positioning
>Tai Otoshi

No Gi Tai Otoshi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcKhgUmP-20

The people getting down on kyokushin are ludicrous. The plethora of high tier K1 athletes in years pass speak to the art's efficacy. So do the endorsement of Bas Rutten, Duke Roufus, etc.
For my own part, I have 13 professional fights (MMA, Muay thai, and K1 rules)and a ton of ammies. For awhile (some of 2007), I was ranked regionally aa a pro at feather weight in K1 rules.
Last year, I took up kyokushin and with permission from a larger kyo organization, I took part in a national tournament.
The art is legit. Just the conditioning aspect (which provides a unique balance of aerobic anaerobic condition while retaining/building considerable muscular development) and aggressive, persevere at all cost philosophy of the art make it worthy of consideration.
Wile chest thumping isn't my cup of tea style wise, that style is more a deficiency of the fighters invo;ved then the art. Youtube at Andy Hug, Paulo Filho ,Gary O'Neil, Sam Greco, Gleison, Pettas, YOUTUBE NARUSHIMA for fucks sake.
Contemporary Kyo schools teach hand techniques and their defense these days, if only for the commercial need of offering kickboxing and mma striking classes.
I just see Goju Ryu people shitting on kyokushin, and it's ridiculous. Every art has its points of weakness. For instance, how many Goju Ryu stylists outside of Ron Van Clief have stepped up to show the potential of Goju? And please don't preach the lethal traditional styles dogma. A flying knee to the face, a guillotine choke, a heel hook, a boxer's right cross, or a kyokushin rear leg low kick are just as potent as anything you could offer. And thats me being diplomatic.

>>1301530
McDonalds' burgers beat Burger King burgers, Wendy's burgers, Taco Bell tacos, and Pizza hut pepperoni pizzas when it comes to competition a good amount of the time. But that doesn't mean it's anything compared to quality gourmet burgers sold at 4 star restaurants.

>>1301530
>A flying knee to the face, a guillotine choke, a heel hook, a boxer's right cross, or a kyokushin rear leg low kick
It's not about what moves you have, it's about how you use what moves you have.

>>1301530

>I took part in a national tournament.
>The art is legit
I don't care if you've killed 10 men in an unarmed fight with one arm tied behind your back. Why you think the art is worth it is what will make anything you say matter.

>Wile chest thumping isn't my cup of tea style wise, that style is more a deficiency of the fighters invo;ved then the art.
With every competition available on YouTube looking like a naked adrenaline filled gorilla fight, the art has to have something to do with that. I literally typed in kyokushin tournament and this was the first result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPJa3WFO5c

>>1301530
>Andy Hug, Paulo Filho ,Gary O'Neil, Sam Greco, Gleison, Pettas, YOUTUBE NARUSHIMA
Just like Nick Diaz is a Karate fighter and Anderson Silva is a Capoeira fighter right?

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Reminder that Jab-Cross-Hook is Boxing kata.

>>1301246
>>1301240
So Sambo is a legit practical martial art, and systema is a mcdojo discipline?
Also, I have a year before I go to Russia, wanted to start a martial art before then, is Sambo widespread in the US?
If I can't find sambo, how can I pick a good non mcdojo?

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You lose if you fall off the stage in Sanda/Sanshou.
You lose I you step off the mat in Kyokushin Karate.

In Boxing, American Kickboxing, K-1, Muay Thai, UFC, you need to make an effort to get yourself out of the ring.

Should combat sports adopt a ring-out rule?

Staying true to what martial arts and combat is, back in the day, you need to be aware of your surroundings. If you're not aware of your surroundings, you could back up into a table with your spine, you could trip over a chair, you could trip over a step, your opponent could be positioning you next to something your opponent could use against you, you could fall and die.
If you're aware of your surroundings, you could use your environment to your advantage.
It's a thing in a lot of fighting games for a reason.

>>1302178
and Sumo

>>1302178
>If you're aware of your surroundings, you could use your environment to your advantage.
People already do that in combat sports. Being backed up to the corner or the fence is a bad place to be.

>>1302164
Do Judo or BJJ. They have the most similarities to Sambo and they're all over the place.

>>1302249

can you detail the benefits and drawbacks of sambo,judo and BJJ?

>>1302215
>Being backed up to the corner or the fence is a bad place to be.
Not as bad as theoretically falling off of a cliff and dying.

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>>1302178
>>1302215
>>1302489

>>1301354

Multiple Kyokushin offshoots, including K-1, which is a sparring ruleset created from a Kyokushin offshoot, address every issue you've brought up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5rJd2maDKU

>>1301530
>I just see Goju Ryu people shitting on kyokushin, and it's ridiculous. Every art has its points of weakness. For instance, how many Goju Ryu stylists outside of Ron Van Clief have stepped up to show the potential of Goju?

There's exactly one guy pushing the Goju meme. The rule on /asp/ is we do not respond to him in the hopes that he will get bored and go outside to play.

>>1302002
>I literally typed in kyokushin tournament and this was the first result.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSPJa3WFO5c

And what's wrong with it?

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I decided to duct tape my Wushu shoes so I could relatively comfortable wear them while doing bag work.

My right shoe got all kinds of jacked up because of the emphasis I place on a downward angle in my rear leg front push kicks. I didn't stay true to that form too well wile standing with my right leg as my lead leg.
I've noticed I started using more of a downward angle with left leg, and now the shoes are bearing the evidence of said angle.

I've also started relatively recently (more than a few months ago) incorporating front leg front push kicks, and adopting a traditional Muay Thai stance or Cat Stance.

>>1302675

Why not just take them off? That's more comfortable and saves duct tape.

Are you sparring too or just dicking around on a bag?

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>>1302847
>Why not just take them off?
My bag is an outdoor bag (outside snek), on concrete. It's just uncomfortable because of the hole in the shoe and the concrete.

>are you sparring too
I have friends I spar with on a regular basis. Mostly full contact, mostly under MMA rules, always with no strikes to the head these days.
Without typing too much, I've been practicing on and off since I was a wee young lad, various styles, striking as well as grappling, full head contact has been included. Kickboxing rules and Muay Thai rules follow a close second to frequency these days, with some Western Boxing rules sometimes. Light contact and semi-contact is also incorporated sometimes.
I might just do general training with some of these people sometimes, as well.

>or just dicking around on a bag
Because I've posted my location a while ago on /asp/, I relatively recently said that I may or may not have been a part of a Kickboxing and or MMA gym. Maybe it wasn't an MMA or Kickboxing gym, but a traditional Muay Thai gym, or Wing Chun school.
Right now, I'm not a part of a school (gym, dojo, wherever they teach and practice martial arts), so I'll say I was practicing in a relatively formal setting in which I paid money in return for instruction, knowledge, and allowance to practice with students during training times at the training area, and knowledge of combat sports and or martial arts, but I'm not training in a gym, school, dojo, or whatever you want to call it anymore.
I've actually relatively recently taken up the practice of martial arts with a focus, besides just dicking around on my bag for exercise.
Before I started practicing relatively recently, I went approximately 3 years without training with people, only occasionally finding a person to spar with.

Being the brilliant musician that I am, I'm kind of sick of that shit right now, I'm just going to focus on martial arts more, with some Parkour thrown in, I'm not giving up my various other hobbies, though.

You know, I genuinely enjoy fighting people.
It's not about winning, it's not about losing.
It's not about gaining some deeper understanding of something.
It's not about some peace of mind.
I just have a great time trying to beat the shit out of someone while that person is trying to beat the shit out of me.

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If you were to buy everything you're going to use to attack criminals on the streets from Amazon.com, what would you buy?

The Hip Show kind of let me down. The guys aren't really good Parkour practitioners, and they definitely are beginner practitioners of mixing hand to hand combat and Parkour; that's how it seems, anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qBIXjXw7c


The Assassin's Creed video game fighting choreography is pretty decent. In gameplay, it can be off sometimes simply because it's a video game and they don't apply a high standard of realism. The lack of realism effects submersion into the video game, but it's still the early 21st century.

I don't only want good fight choreography.
Assassin's creed is somewhat unique in how the movement is a mixture of Parkour as well as hand to hand and melee combat, or combat with relatively primitive weapons in general.
I hope they hold the Parkour+Fighting choreography to a high enough standard.

Also, a lot of Parkour choreography can just go to shit with flippy free-running bullshit.
It's kind of off putting seeing someone run and move around the environment like it really means something, only to do some unnecessary and energy consume flips, spins, and other bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2e6Oruy_fA

Sure, a majority of people aren't practitioners and are ignorant, but practitioners are still watching, and as time goes on, people become less ignorant, things become common knowledge, and when people look back, they'll think: "that's bullshit choreography."

They have the power and resources to make it not shit, it's not asking that much.

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>>1260317
>if you cant hit them in the face?
Why wouldn't you be able to hit them in the face?

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Any tips on passing the guard?

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>>1262023

>>1304292
I like the use the can opener. If you're using gi or street clothes, I like to threaten with a cross choke, and then use the can opener.
I don't know what else to tell you if that doesn't help.

>>1302660
>Kyokushin offshoots
Those are offshoots. It doesn't change the fact that Kyokushin as a whole is one big slugfest.

>>1304105
weighted gloves for sure

>>1304292
If it's a grappling guard, you can learn forward and bite your opponent's nose really, really hard. The pain could distract your opponent enough just to get out of the guard. You could also try to go for the ear, and then pull yourself back or your head to the side, really tugging on the ear.

If it's an Orthodox Boxing guard, you can kick your opponent right in the groin, a good punt kick (up kick, upwards roundhouse). If the guard manages to stay up, you could still follow up with other attacks, depending on how your opponent reacts.

>>1304292
>>1304860
Your opponent always leaves something open, be it the legs, the groin, the lower torso, the upper torso, the back, the head.

Your opponent covers high, aim low or mid.
Your opponent covers low, aim high or mid.

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>>1304860
>>1304867
I meant bjj famalam

>>1304977
Gi or no-gi?

>>1305012
I do both

>>1305090
OK, honestly for both, the easiest, simplest way is to get a knee up. Watch for getting your foot hooked.

With your knee up and you back arched, he's going to have very little control over you. You should be able to control his legs from this point. The important thing is not to stick one arm in, you'll get triangle choked. It's both arms in, or both arms out.

Either way, if you keep your knee up, your back straight, and your hips forward, you'll be fine.

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Why is it that geeks and nerds make some of the best fighters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfbfTmBDaSM

>>1305311
A LOT of fighters are turbo nerds who wanted to be batman, and got picked on when they were younger, and dealt with it by learning to kick asses.

My Kickboxing coach has an obsession with TMNT. My MMA coach named his sons Bruce and Kal-El. I met the guy who got me into MMA when he was singing anime theme songs in class.

>>1284894

get out of this thread, autismo

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I can't even begin to try to logically disprove you, so I'll just say that you've never trained a day in your fucking life.

>>1304292
the point of the guard is to provoke you into attacking the open area, while protecting the rest of the body, so imo the only way to get past a good guard is to either anticipate the counter attack and be one step ahead of his moves, or attack where he does not expect it.

>>1304230
if they're tall and have long ass arms

>>1305311
Maybe because being smart is a good thing for fighting.

>>1303501
I always assumed that this was natural for men but I've been surprised to find not everyone gets this sense of enjoyment from fighting. I'm glad I do though.

>>1306670
>be me
>be looking up gym around my area
>be on page of gym that's a fitness facility as well as a MMA gym
>one of the review comments says you don't have to afraid of the MMA gyms

>tfw normal people fear martial artists

>cops search room
>see all martial arts equipment
>guy getting arrested is stoic or chill and quiet
>cop1: ain't he a badass
>cop2: don't you have to be to be in to that kind of stuff (martial arts)?

I've been a dedicated practitioner of Goju-Ryu Karate for 4 years.
I've recently become a black-belt, and have had to register my hands as lethal weapons.
Now, if I were to have to get into a street fight to defend myself, fighting back would be using deadly weapons.
If I ever get really drunk on a bad day and hit an annoying prick in a bar, I would be charged with battery.

This is how you're supposed to use a gun at close range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3IJD3md5Uw

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Through meditation, one's mine becomes clear.

With a clear mind, one's focus becomes enhanced.

With enhanced focus, a martial artist develops skill more efficiently.

With focus, one may more efficiently work on sparring more intelligently.

With focus, one may more efficiently work on understanding the connections between movements in drills and their applications.

With focus, one is able to pay closer attention to the detail on technique when practicing forms, bagwork, or shadow-striking (shadowboxing).

With meditation, one is not only able to become a better martial artist' with meditation, one is able to become a better person in all aspects of life.

>>1308609
>shadow-striking (shadowboxing).
Training like that isn't exclusive to striking. You can do it with grappling, too.

>>1308609
>Through meditation, one's mine becomes clear.

I thought mines are supposed to stay hidden.

>>1308615

Shadow-grappling must look hilarious.

>>1307300
>If I ever get really drunk on a bad day and hit an annoying prick in a bar, I would be charged with battery.

Not to address the rest of the bait, but that's true for anyone. It's kind of what "battery" means.

>>1307300
>>1308942
I mean aggravated battery.

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My kicking accuracy could use some work.

I want to start using inside leg kicks more but I don't want to accidentally kick my opponent in the groin.

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Rich Franklin self taught himself grappling and he won about 80% of his MMA fights.
And get this, Rich Franklin is an Okinawan Karate fighter.

Rich Franklin has a bachelor's degree in mathematics.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Franklin

>>1309043
That isn't Jose Aldo

>>1309043

groin kicks are always effective

>>1302274
99% of sambo in US will be shit
judo focuses almost entirely on standing throws
bjj focuses almost entirely on ground game and submissions

Taekwondo > Wrestling
rofl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvN5xy3uu9U

this is my new favorite song to listen to while doing bag work

https://youtu.be/1uWfTUby9IE

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>>1283680
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywXWaZv5I0U
>1:02
>flying twin side kick and flying side kick right off the bat

>how can you do a twin side kick without flying?
capoeira

>>1308654
>I thought mines are supposed to stay hidden.
If they see your mine, they wont see your well-placed pipe-bomb.

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>>1260317
I'm curious as to the context, why are you fighting someone so much bigger than you? Aren't weight classes a thing?

I'm going to assume this is mixed martial arts or a street fight, and my advice is going to reflect that.

>Stick and move
I often tell my students, and anyone who cares to ask my opinion that endurance > timing > speed > power.

You absolutely need all of those traits to succeed as a fighter, but endurance is easily the most important: I don't care how fast you are or how strong you are, if your heart can't keep your body functioning it's all for naught.

This guy is bigger than you, and I'm assuming from your description that he's not just big, but obese. His conditioning is probably very poor, his footwork and mobility is likely shit, and keep in mind that when he does move it costs him exponentially more energy than it does for you.

You're going to want to constantly move, alternate between circling him with abrupt changes in clockwise/counter clockwise, and whenever possible and just putting distance between him, kick the shit out of his legs, focusing on his knees and shins whenever there's an opening, which should be often. Throw out jabs to keep him guessing, but keep your guard up and be ready to roll with it if he starts throwing out haymakers.

If he stumbles and leaves his face open hit him as hard as you can in the fucking ear.

If you want some fortune cookie shit: He's the mountain, be like water, formless, adaptable, and erode him with time.

Whatever you do, don't get complacent or cocky; you don't want to end up like pic related, make no mistake: in spite of all I've said size is a huge advantage (that's why anyone who says prime Bruce Lee could take Prime Tyson is a glue sniffing weeb) you need to remain focused, surgical, purposeful, and brutal in everything you do.

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>>1310721
>Aren't weight classes a thing?
There are open class fights under various different rule sets, including MMA and street fighting.

> endurance > timing > speed > power
timing > endurance > speed power
No need to endure a long fight if your timing is good enough.

>fortune cookie shit
kek

>>1310853
>No need to endure a long fight if your timing is good enough.
First art I trained in was kyokushin; cardio and taking a punch are my foundation.

Timing leads to some bad ass moments, but endurance is more consistent.

And this kids, is why there's more than one form of martial art.

>>1311136
>First art I trained in was kyokushin
What else have you trained, how does aspects of one art compare with others, and how does it give you perspective on martial arts as a whole?

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>>1311136
there's nothing like a well timed kick

>>1308950

Well, troll better next time and get it right.

>>1311509
For reference, I'm currently 28 years old.

>Kyokushin, 12 years
Found out about this when I was 15, couldn't find a place to train for three more years. I've trained in the Bay Area, Seattle, and Osaka, Japan. Lots of emphasis on striking hard, and fast, and being able to take a punch. Legit kyokushin conditioning is brutal; earning my black belt involved running six miles in 45 minutes and fighting six opponents in a row immediately upon arrival to the dojo, I either had to knock them out or stay standing against them for 10 minutes to move on to the next opponent.

This sounds like fantasy, but legit kyokushin is fucking insane; competitions are full contact and bare knuckle.

>Muay Thai, 4 years
Spent a year with Master Toddy in BKK, and a total of six months with Tiger Muay Thai in Phuket. Trained a few times a week with Banchamek in BKK while staying with Toddy. Currently train in MT at my local MMA academy.

Another striking art, and emphasizes versatility in how, when, and from what distance you strike. Also, clinching.

IMHO it's probably the best striking art in the world. Kyokushin did wonders for my conditioning and pain tolerance, and I can literally break ribs with my punches, but I focus on MT because it's actually techniques are pragmatic and effective.

>Judo and BJJ
Started one year ago, train at the same place I currently practice Muay Thai. My high school wrestling background isn't cutting it for MMA anymore.

I'm a grappling noob, but I really feel if possible people should train in both Judo and BJJ; Judo is about using inertia against your enemy, really good for getting your opponent to ground/unbalanced, whereas BJJ is more about joint manipulation and ground game.

>how does it give you perspective on martial arts as a whole
I'm not sure what you by this exactly.

>>1314783
>earning my black belt involved running six miles in 45 minutes and fighting six opponents in a row immediately upon arrival to the dojo, I either had to knock them out or stay standing against them for 10 minutes to move on to the next opponent.
Hearing about stuff like this is always funny to me, but I do see how it helps make people mentally tough. Really puts an emphasis on earning your belt.

>IMHO it's probably the best striking art in the world. Kyokushin did wonders for my conditioning and pain tolerance, and I can literally break ribs with my punches, but I focus on MT because it's actually techniques are pragmatic and effective
Are you saying Kyokushin techniques aren't pragmatic and effective?

What was transitioning from Kyokushin Karate to Muay Thai like?
How did you think your skills transferred to Muay Thai?
What advantages did you have against your training partners, and what disadvantages did you have?

>Started one year ago, train at the same place I currently practice Muay Thai
Do you train for MMA? Why do you compartmentalize your training so much? How often do you train mixing these arts?

>>1316008
>Hearing about stuff like this is always funny to me, but I do see how it helps make people mentally tough. Really puts an emphasis on earning your belt.
Keep in mind this was in Osaka so they were looking for any reason to disqualify me. Gaijin had to earn his belt.

Kyokushin is, quite simply, for crazy people.

>Are you saying Kyokushin techniques aren't pragmatic and effective?
I'm saying Kyokushin has some serious tunnel vision and that training in it alone probably won't adequately prepare you for MMA competition, it's almost entirely striking and conditioning. Having said that...

>What was transitioning from Kyokushin Karate to Muay Thai like?
Kyokushin gave me strength and toughness, Muay Thai gave me many ways to use them.

That's why I say it's the "best" as in if you're starting MMA, today, a complete cherry, start training in Muay Thai and at least one grappling art.

I very much value what Kyokushin taught me, and the only reason I don't practice at the moment is there's no legit Kyokushin dojos anywhere near where I live.

>What was transitioning from Kyokushin Karate to Muay Thai like?
Very smooth. Both place heavy emphasis on conditioning, bag work, and sparring.

>How do you think your skills transferred to Muay Thai
I can punch and kick *hard.* In competition I've broken two guys ribs. Learning to use my elbows and knees effectively was a bit of a challenge. I was fighting years of muscle memory.

>What advantages did you have against your training partners, and what disadvantages did you have
I can take a punch very well. Like Tyson says "everyone has a plan until they get hit." In Thailand, and any legit stateside MT academy they'll emphasize cardio and conditioning but kyokushin is kind of unique in that part of the training is "we're going to kick your ass, all day today."

It wasn't uncommon to leave my kyokushin dojo bloody.

Disadvantages? Like I said, I had to learn to use my knees and elbows. Harder than you think.

<Cont>

>>1316382
>Do you train for MMA? Why do you compartmentalize your training so much? How often do you train mixing these arts?
Yes. I'm fortunate enough to live in a city with a very good MMA academy with legit instructors in a variety of styles; I train six days a week.

>Monday
BJJ, Judo, Sambo

>Tuesday
Muay Thai

>Wednesday
BJJ

>Thursday
Muay Thai

>Friday
BJJ

>Saturday
Muay Thai
BJJ

>Sunday
PS4 and bitches

>>1310853
Proof that an Aikidoka could beat an MMA fighter.

What do Muay Thai fighters have against trees?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khub702CvEo

>>1263206
>>wrestling
>No kicking
Uhm. What?

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Is the UFC setting up Taekwondo practitioners to lose by having The Octagon™ be so small?

>>1309063
Then who is it?

>>1323815
They made it smaller to force the two to meet eachother more often and easier. Rather than one person poking for points then hiding away.

Granted Taekwondo likes to push forwards quite a bit whilst attacking, and the size limits it severely. I'd think TKD users would be taking some kickboxing(which is close to it anyway) and grappling arts to round themselves out, and a lot of the more aggressive stuff in TKD is super limited in usage against most opponents.

>>1323911
>They made it smaller to force the two to meet eachother more often and easier.
>Rather than one person poking for points then hiding away
Doing so removes the element of more defensive options, and removes the element of higher distancing based defense.
Having a smaller cage just takes away a skill set.
It's not just an aggression limiter, it also limits defense.
Getting in, scoring points, damage, TKO, or KO, and then getting out, is a valid strategy.
Fighters are also limited in the use of attacks depending on where they are in The Octagon, because some attacks just require more room.
A fighter could distance back to evade an attack, distance back again to evade another attack and then be up against the cage, where if he had more room, he could counter his opponent's next attack with a spinning back kick or heel kick. But because he doesn't have the space, he hits his head against the fence before he gets his kick high enough.

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Anyone get a pain between their shoulder blades when they punch really hard? Idk if that's what causing it or not.

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>>1324447
Could be from minor tears or lack of flexibility in your trapezius or the muscles under them.

Notice the "Could" part.

>>1295631
>Force = mass X acceleration.
>not Force = mass * acceleration

>>1308609
Meditation is bullshit.

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>>1325899
Depends on how you define meditation.
Clearing your mind has been scientifically proven to be beneficial.

Anyways, Ronda Rousey looks fine as fuck when she dresses all girly like.