QTDDTOT: Martial Arts 2

I guess that would make it more of a general than a QTDDTOT. Oh well.

Our community is small enough to the point where we don't need a general like this

I recall there being a martial arts effectiveness ranking thread not too long ago. I think it would be also good idea to add to the general by creating a list of common myths and misconceptions about martial arts to prevent clueless noobs from being duped and to avoid redundant questions. Thoughts?

>>1131557
True but at least we still have a community and now another thread.
>>1131558
Definitely a great idea. Mcdojo spotting should be in every MA group. I don't know how well the last thread went on that though. As far as style ranks wouldn't that be more about preferences than objectivity? Listing 3-5 key features or signature aspects of each art might be better.

Wasn't answered in last thread. For all training in Cincinnati what gyms are good or bad? I have a list of most of them but don't know which to choose or avoid.

Xtreme Fitness & Performance
JG MMA
Elite Coalition CF
Team G-Force
Vision MMA
Eastgate - Martial Arts
Club MMA
Cincinnati Martial Arts Club
Reed Academy of Mixed Martial arts
Drive MMA
Fusion MMA Cincinnati
SACAN Muay Thai
Cincy BJJ
Son of Siam Martial Arts
Jorge Gurgel MMA Academy
Spears Amateur Boxing & Kickboxing

What does /asp/ think of fitness site darebee? Could it be used as a primary source of exert and routines or is it only supplemental to traditional exercises? Maybe be more for /fit/ but since many are MA inspired I thought you guys might have thoughts.

>>1131558
Western Boxing
>Amazing head movement
>Best footwork
>Obviously king of punching arts
>Can be supplement to anything

Muay Thai
>Master low roundhouse kicks
>Emphasis on clinch elbow and knees
>Relatively easy to learn
>Clinch is great transition to grappling (judo)

Wing Chun
>Gets you comfortable with close range exchanges
>Trapping may be useful against point boxer
>Practically guaranteed to have fast hands

TKD
>Master long range kicks
>Deceptive kicks (flamingo feints, turns, spins, switches and change ups to hit from any angle)
>Fast, strong, and dexterous legs
>Become human hitmonlee

Wrestling
>Dominance grappling at finest
>Extreme conditioning
>Master double/single leg takedown, shooting through defenses, sprawl, suplex, and pin

Judo
>Great for all body sizes
>Self defense made easy
>Hit people with planets
>Master shoulder, hip, and leg throws

Jiu-jitsu (Brazilian and Japanese)
>Great for 1v1 anywhere
>Neutralize opponent size advantage
>"Soft" style so no need to condition limbs for strikes
>Works from any ground position

Krav Maga
>Master crotch kick and eye gouge
>Borrows parts from many others for crash course
>Easy to learn
>Weapon defense training

Aikido
>Supplemental grappling
>Specialize in arm and wrist control
>Takes advantage of rotation and leverage

Karate
>A little bit of all striking techniques
>Karas to reinforce techniques
>Well conditioned body to withstand punishment
>Translates well to most other styles for cross training

Just my opinion and observation.

>>1131591
Xtreme fitness and JG MMA are the same thing since they're out of the same gym. Where do you live in Cincinnati? I'd recommend JG, Son of Siam, Vision, Drive, Sacan, Limitless BJJ, or the Gracie BJJ school out in Blue Ash.

>>1131869
I live in forest park. The closest thing is a boxing gym towards Mt. Healthy and Watson martial arts in colerain/springdale. I've been recommended Spears and vision but I wanted to check here.

>>1132196
Idk about spears but vision is good. I honestly can't think of anywhere that is shit around here.

>>1131557
That's how it used to be, before WWE.
Now, if we have individual threads for the things in this General, they could very well be lost in the ocean of WWE and bumped off the board.
It was just a pain in the ass keeping track of who said what in which thread because topics and discussion was so similar anyway.

>>1131637
Not bad.

>>1133727
I hoping that after today the levels of /wwe/ will go down a little.
>with our luck it will just get worse

>>1133842
It will sadly. I'd love to have our own board but there's not enough to make that. Do you think our peers ate leaving or just lurking? If they left where to?

>>1131637
Other arts and opinions are always welcomed.

Is it true that hitting your shin bones with a hard stick continually over time will over-harden the bone to the point were a single hard kick can snap your shin bone? I heard that's what happened to Anderson Silva.
It could just be a freak accident but I heard that you should avoid deliberately hardening the bone while excluding the actual kick because your leg needs to condition as one unit.

>>1133727
Fair enough. If it saves martial arts discussion, then I support it.
>>1138784
Probably Reddit, bullshido or sherdog.

>>1138784
Most of them went to Reddit, or just stopped dealing with this board altogether. Can't say that I blame them since this place is completely overwhelmed with WWE discussion.

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>>1131558
Savate rarely used this kick. It is a modification of a chasses avant. The regular chasses avant is a traditional front kick. You see it, but everytime you talk about Savate people start talking about that one episode of fightquest.

The one you will see all the the time is the chasses au Cote, which is basically a side kick, except studied to perfection.

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Judo Gi
BJJ Gi
Karate Gi

What's the difference?

>>1133842
>after today
Why? What will happen?

>>1146146
Judo is really thick
BJJ is pretty thick but not judo thick
karate is paper thin

>>1139628
I'm not an expert but my thought is that fighters were actually only hardening one part or section of the bone. Doing that causes uneven force dispersal which leads to it breaking elsewhere easier. Kinda like the radius or ulnar being designed to snap before the humerus since it's more important. But if those bones were hardened incorrectly or previously broken, and still having that "knot", then it's easier to break the humerus; but imagine it happening on one bone.

>>1142211
Would you consider kicks to the knee, as opposed to the quads a little above it, to be a cheap shot? In that clip he may have been aiming for the thigh but due to movement it hit lower so it probably wasn't intentional.

>>1153164
>Would you consider kicks to the knee, as opposed to the quads a little above it, to be a cheap shot?
If Anon is a Savate practitioner, he might not think that. Savate encourages kicks to the knee.

>>1153164
Just like the other anon said. Savate Defense, which is the complete self defense systems teaches us to cripple his ass.

My instructor told us the sweet spot is right below the quad, just above the knee. There's like a 2 inch window of unprotected tendons and such. Legal target in the rest of kickboxing that allow leg kicks.

>>1152057
Yesterday was Wrestlemania, and /wwe/ was shitposting to try and reach a certain number of generals before it.

Am I too old to learn martial arts?

>>1159811
Yes

>>1159811
>>1159931
No

>>1159811
maybe

>>1159811
I don't know

>>1159811
Can you repeat the question?

>>1159811
Never too late to learn and train but there's a cut off age to compete. Idk when that is though. I just pray it's not 24-26.

>>1159811
It's always too late to learn and train but there's not a cut off age to compete. You could be 85, but still have the heart of a firey young lad, having fun until you drop dead.

>>1131591

Just go to a club near you and look for yourself, faggot. Just because somone foudn a club great/shit doesn't mean it has to be the same for you.

>>1131637

Nice.


>>1146146

>Judo Gi
Thick and heavy (double-woven), only white (blue for tournaments). Cheapest Gis.

>BJJ Gi

Similar to Judo but with colourfull patches, comes in all coulors.

>Karate Gi

Thin, short arms. Often with a patch from the Style you're practicing. Rather cheap.


>>1159811

The best day to start training was 10 years ago.
The second best day is today.

>>1163242
>The best day to start training was 10 years ago.
Someone posted the results of a study a while ago.
The best practitioners of a sport are the ones that start late, but had experienced a wide variety of sports during their formative years.
Doing only a single kind of sport all your life long is actually detrimental to your skills.

how should I prepare for first muay thai training?
also is it good idea to go for muay thai lesson if I'm looking for some agression?
is out there anything like fight club in real world?

>>1159811
>>1159931
>>1159962
>>1161651
>>1161995
>>1162230
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

>>1163495
As far as first class just jump in. There's nothing really to prep you. Having your own gloves, wraps, shin guards, and cup are good. Also already having some level of fitness is recommended, mainly cardio. If you have none of those things you'll still be fine. The class will know that you're a n00b and take it easy in sparring but the warm up exercises will end up more like a full workout if out if shape. Overall no need to fear.

For aggro, that's any gym/art. It depends on the practitioner not the art. If I had to guess I'd say kickboxing, kyo karate, and wrestling MIGHT cultivate it slightly more so.

I have no idea about the fight clubs do you're on your own on that. But I'm sure they exist.

>>1131637
>Well conditioned body to withstand punishment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMRRiBCSJA

2 questions.

What can one do to get a good cardio work out in a small space?
&
What is your favorite solo footwork drills?

>>1139724
>>1141685
Shame, since reddit sucks for actual discussion and other forums are boring, slow, and often no fun allowed.

>>1166377
>What can one do to get a good cardio work out in a small space?
You could jog in place in a phone booth.

>>1166377

>What can one do to get a good cardio work out in a small space?

Rope skipping.

>What is your favorite solo footwork drills?

Wat?
Fag.

Best place to train boxing/MT in Santa Cruz?
I have boxing experience with a great coach, and Farley's kickboxing just closed down.

>>1166377
High knees, burpees, and Mt climbers for cardio.

Dot drill or shadowbox for footwork.

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People say that MMA fighters wouldn't last very long at all if illegal strikes were allowed.

I say people would still last long, but they'd spend more time training before competing because of the extra time put into training things relating to the stated illegal moves.

Do you agree or disagree? Why or why not?

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>>1159931
>>1159962
>>1161651
Good work

A Tae Kwon Do gym opened up in my area and I was looking into joining it.

My question is, is Tae Kwon Do a serious martial art? I don't know much about it honestly.

Can we all agree that Shaolin is better than Tae Kwon Do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAn2AIZFj8

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What was that one Tae kwon Do YouTube channel some anon posted a while ago?

That anon might've posted some video about positioning and distancing from that channel.

>>1168783
Their training methods may or may not be the best, but you get great kicks, accuracy, and technique.

If you're going to do Kickboxing, Muay Thai, MMA, Tae Kwon Do is a great supplemental art.
You might catch a Kickboxer off guard with your kicking angles. You could catch a Muay Thai practitioner off guard with your superior kicking everything. People don't really expect flying anythings in MMA, just don't do flashy flying-spinning kicks too much, and use it with good timing and set up.

>>1168881
So its primarily just a kicking based martial art? Would you recommend it for someone who is just getting started.

>>1168900
>Would you recommend it for someone who is just getting started.
The way Boxers and Tae Kwon Do practitioners generally do things and learn to do things are kind of on opposite ends of two extremes.

Boxers usually stand with a high guard, and not as bladed stance, Modern Boxers, anyway.
Tae Kwon Do practitioners usually stand with low guard, and more bladed stance.
Certain kinds of Kickboxers tend to do something in the middle.

After being familiar with a variety of ways to do things, you might want to lean towards punching, or you might want to learn towards kicking.
You might want to learn towards a less bladed stance, you might want to learn towards a more bladed stance.

The different ways of doing things have their advantages and their disadvantages.

You can mix and match various different types of doing things in various combinations, some of which resemble the general way Tae Kwon Do practitioners do things.

In the end, it may not matter what you start with.

But it's my personal opinion that if you want to do MMA, because of it's complexity and amount of things to learn to become good, including the ways of mixing striking and grappling, you should start with MMA.

If you want to be a striker, general Kickboxing is a good art for someone to start with.
If you later decide you like pure punching better, you can transition to Boxing better than if you were to start with Tae Kwon Do. If you later decide you like pure kicking better, you can transition to Tae Kwon Do better than if you were to start with Boxing.
However, there's more to it than that. After transitioning from Kickboxing to Boxing, you might decide you want to do pure kicking after all. After a few years of that, you might decide you want to do Knockdown Karate. After that, you might want to decide MMA is what you want to do. You might or might not stick with MMA.

We can work with probability and possibility, but we really just can't know for certain.

So, the answer is maybe.

>>1169001
Thank you for the informative response.

If a female judoka earns her black belt at the age of 16 it's a mcdojo, right?

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Does anyone have a list of good studios/dojos in the Northern Virginia/Washington, D.C. area?

>>1169038
Not necessarily.

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>>1168783
>>1168900

Taekwondo is primarily a kicking martial art.

Boxing vs Kickboxing in a nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ7bbmjtAB0

Taekwondo vs Kickboxing in a nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4dpoSQWsE0

American Kickboxing vs Muay Thai in a nutshell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lpl_7w8-jTE

The moral of the stories: It's nice to have a little bit of everything.
Boxing is good for Boxing. Taekwondo is good for Taekwondo. Kickboxing is good for Kickboxing, MMA is good for MMA.
But MMA is so diversified that it can take advantage of the weaknesses of specialists.

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What if UFC had a division solely for MMA while wearing Gis?

Dada 5000 said earlier that, during his fight with Kimbo, he suffered kidney failure and had to heart attacks. What a warrior. We need people like him in the UFC.

Is countering one of the key principles of Kung-Fu?
Or is it just the same bald Chinese guy in these videos?
All these chinks look the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_vTrTqMR1Y&nohtml5=False

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuZLzeYloXA&nohtml5=False

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPAn2AIZFj8&nohtml5=False

>>1169167
it would be boring and look like bjj matches

The Chinese are some crazy ass mother fuckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMYZP4C0AVw

http://www.mushinkanjujutsu.com/

Thoughts? My McDojo sense is tingling.

>>1170732
There's no sparring, competition, or sport fighting, but what's stopping you from training with other students on your own time?

At $55 a month, it's pretty good, even if you're only doing technique and drills.
Supplement that with a sparring partner, and you're good.

>$55 a month
Damn, nigga. Holy shit, we need more gyms and dojos with rates like this.

>>1170345
Good grief

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http://www.oldschoolmuaythai.com/

Mcdojo or nah? The price seems pretty good, plus the instructors look legit

>>1170701
actually it would look like Sambo matches which are pretty much just MMA with gis.

Is it possible for a dojo to be half a mcdojo?

As a kid my parents put me in a hybrid martial art at the ymca that was primarily a mixture of kenpo karate (BKF) and hayastan grappling with some shotokan and taekwondo. It advertised itself as basically karate mma and we trained in GI and regular gym clothes. I remember the instructors (who were either ex-military, serving police officers, competitors, or all of the above) demonstrating those over the top combos on complaint partners with the impressive sounds. I made it to orange belt in a few years and only sparred and grappled twice. The class was 2 or 3 times a week and all we did was pad work and air striking, partially because students kept quitting and the ones that stayed didn't put in any effort. However, in order to advance in rank you had to be able to perform the techniques and katas. They didn't hand out belts just because. I recently ran into one of the instructors they said it had a gotten a lot better and that I should return. I watched some of their videos that included sparring and it seemed effective. Should i go back or go with the tried and true MT, bjj and boxing ? I really don't want to waste any more time.

Tl;DR: should i do hybrid martial arts system or do mma?

>>1171997
>the tried and true MT, bjj and boxing
>should I do hybrid martial arts system or do mma

Boxing isn't even that tried and true. Boxing is modified and supplemented before it has a place in MMA.
And you're talking like MT, BJJ, and Boxing is MMA. It's not MMA, it's popular arts implemented in hybrid MMA arts.

>>1171997
You don't know until you try it. And you don't know until you've tried it for a while when it comes to martial arts.
You have your whole life ahead of you, you have plenty of time.
It's how often you notice you're doing stupid shit like browsing 4chan that counts.

Try it. I believe it's better to know than not to know.

>>1172619
I know the three arts don't define mma, but they are pretty much cross train in along with whatever they specialize in. I also know that they have to be adapted to mma.
>>1172626
Maybe i can post some of their uploads for another perspective? They moved locations to basically a different part of the city and the amount of time wasted commuting i could spend training somewhere else much closer.

>>1163487
Bullshit.

>>1165581
>Karate
>no elbows or knees
>Muay Thai
>no elbows or knees

can a poorfag learn boxing/muay thai with little to no money?

>>1163487
Correlation is not causation, friend.
Science 101.

>experience is only as credible as how it's interpreted
Philosophy 101.

>>1173368
Try finding a family member that will teach you for free.
If that doesn't work, try finding a friend that will teach you for free.
If that doesn't work, try finding a friend that will teach you for a small fee.
If that doesn't work, you have YouTube, and you can do drills and spar with a friend.

You could always save up what little money you have to join a gym for a month, and hope you find a friend that will train with you on the side.

>>1173393
thanks friend

>>1168783
>a serious martial art?
It is as serious as you are willing to take it.
But the same could be said for most arts, including the ones that don't work so well.

Any way to avoid "water cramps" in the side when working out, or are you just supposed to power through them like I have been trying to do?

>>1131637
Dutch Kickboxing
>Use spacing to follow any punch with a kick and any kick with a punch
>Better footwork and head movement than Muay Thai
>Emphasize conditioning

>>1146146
Judo gi: A few specific brands approved by IJF
BJJ gi: A judo-style gi, marketed for BJJ
Karate gi: a light gi for striking that is so thin the sleeves will come off in your partner's hands.

>>1171997
Sounds like a full blown McDojo. In every grappling art I've ever done, you spar at the end of practice. Judo might be the exception since its rougher on the body than you might expect, but judoka still do randori frequently throughout the week. Striking arts always have one day a week for sparring, I think? At lest it seemed that way amongst the Muay Thai guys at my gym. The point is that you can measure a gym's effectiveness by its willingness to let you spar frequently unless it's your first day there. If you're new, then you might be a liability in something like judo where you'll probably break something if you go full randori on your first day.

>>1163487

>The best practitioners of a sport are the ones that start late, but had experienced a wide variety of sports during their formative years.

Right, there are serveral studies who could replicate that finding.

Just SOME stuff to read (there are a lot mroe studies):
>http://www.humankinetics.com/excerpts/excerpts/late-specialization-is-recommended-for-most-sports
>http://sportsscientists.com/2011/04/early-vs-late-specialization-when-should-children-specialize-in-sport/
>http://changingthegameproject.com/is-it-wise-to-specialize/


The kids who were into Judo from very young age were much more likely to stop Judo at their twens.
The Kids who were into serveral differnt sports at younger age were actually better performers than guys who specialized too early.

Another interesting finding was that really succesfull Judoka were often the one, who entered big events (i.e. first tournament, first international tournament and so on) about some years LATER than the "medium succesfull" Judoka.

>>1173382

>Correlation is not causation, friend.

That's true, but that doesn't mean an effect is not valid just because we can't tell in detail which variable works on which one (yet).

An effect (especially an effect whcih can be replicated) mean we found something. What we found in detail is another story.

>>1175129
I love when people provide sauce.

>>1170717
Shit, so those flashy moves are not just for movies then

>>1174146
Water cramps?

>>1173393
>If that doesn't work, you have YouTube
Great advice, fatboy.

>>1176059
That's very hurtful. I'll have you know I'm very insecure about my weight.

>>1175885
Stomach or side cramps during workouts (especially cardio) caused by eating or drinking before or during.

>>1176083
What a fukkin slob, amirite lads?

>>1176173
Oh, desu I've never really experienced that. My advice would be to cut down on pre-exercise eating.

>>1169167

What if UFC had a division where the uniform is a 3-piece suit and a trillby?

>>1175048
Maybe it's because we were just kids? I mean when we practiced the grappling techniques, we did it with the instructors. I remember my first day there i learned the judo throw where if someone is trying to choke you, you tuck your chin and huck them over you. We also practiced learning how to fall. According to my father who was a former judoka, they were just trying to engrain the techniques in us before sparring so that it wouldn't be average bullshit. Anyway, would you be willing to take a look at some of their newer footage and let me know what you think?

>>1175048
Also, i remember being so bewildered at first why we weren't sparring, that i asked the instructor, "um shouldn't we spar?," to which he responded, "yeah we probably should." We sparred and all the techniques i had practiced fell apart. That really made me question the program.

>>1176206
>>1176173
Ok, but how the hell am I supposed to not die from dehydration/heat stroke with no water at all before or during work out?

>>1176785
Hydrate a least a hour before and only take little sips during.
Don't gulp or you will get cramps.

>>1176785
Hydrate an hour before, and take single gulps during maybe every 10min if you're going to be going for an hour or more.

How intensely should someone be conditioned for martial arts competition? I know that one should always strive to be at peak performance but what I mean is if you were to rank conditioning programs for various sports, how would fighting rank?

>>1176707
>>1176721
I'll take a look at it if you link it

>>1178675
You should be as well conditioned as possible. Not much else to it. Aleksandr Karelin used to climb up flights of stairs while holding his 600 pound fridge. Emulate him, except maybe not try to carry a fridge up stairs on the first day.

Would it at all be possible to learn wrestling from the wrestling coach at my old high school? I'm only 20 so it's not like I've been out for a long time.

>>1178689
To be fair, wrestlers do more conditioning than pretty much any sport ever.

>>1179102
It probably wouldn't hurt to ask.

>>1175129
Just wanted to point out it seemed like you were implying things that could be untrue.

>>1176666
>What if UFC had a division where the uniform is a 3-piece suit and a trillby?
A 3-piece suit is kind of like a formal Gi.
It'd look kind of like Combat Sambo, or MMA+Judo. But people would tire out more easily because of all the layers.
We also have shirt stays to keep our shirts tucked in by attaching them to our socks.
Would the fighters being wearing shoes?
You'd get a problem kind of like Gis flying open but with shirts getting untucked.

I think the hat is a bit much, and could be used as a weapon, focusing less on the hand to hand combat aspect.

I'm all for UFC fighters wearing suits in the Octagon, though. We are in the 1st world, after all.

>>1178685
Alright I have to post the links in a weird format since 4chan thinks I am spamming.

Here is one of students being prepared for a grappling tournament by the founding instructor. The student is the one in pants and I think he was 16 or 17 in this video:
facebook dot com slash MATAchampions/videos/3302938656162/

another one with the same two grappling:
facebook dot com slash MATAchampions/videos/vb.206110936087837/2670571447377/?type=2&theater

Here's a adult student sparring one of the other instructors. The student is the one in the shorts:

facebook dot com slash MATAchampions/videos/505079912857603/

Here's two of the instructors sparring briefly so they could explain distance control:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJgRUFJtWvM

here's a highlihght reel from the founder of the style (he is also an actor). It has the ridiculous kenpo combinations on compliant partners I was talking about as well as some fight fight clips:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXig_sHdae0

>>1179738
>MATAchampions/videos/3302938656162/
the coaching doesn't match what is going on with the video

just wondering what happen to these guys? these videos are like 5 years old. The kid in pants is definitely a beginner probably what 1 month of experience? Instructor in short seems to have ok ground work but really bad/all muscle stand up. He moves like he is a BJJ blue so not a beginner but definitely very very very unrefined

>>1179787
They are still around just moved locations. The main page is regularly active. the one in shorts is a member of hayastan grappling which was founded by judo gene lebelle and gokor chichiviyan. So that is where he got his grappling training. I should add that that the one in shorts is in his mid to late 30's now. So when I first started there he was in his mid twenties. I'm pretty sure that my "generation" was among the first he taught, which is why it was so mediocre.

I'm thinking of just going to a bjj academy a few miles from where i live since the mestre is reputable and incorporates training methods from another martial art i am interested in learning.

What really grinds your gears about martial arts?

I'll start.

When you switch dojos because you moved, or your sensei retires or whatever, and your new sensei doesn't believe in ranks or advancement.

I've literally walked out of dojos because I heard the sensei say there was a two year gap between fucking stripes on a karate belt.

Some of my friends have missed out on seven years+ of advancement because an interim sensei didn't feel like doing the work of training them to pass grading exams.

>>1179336
Why is this?

>>1131637
Well done, solid breakdown of the benefits of many different styles.

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>>1180023
In Okinawa, belt mean no need rope to hold up pants

Why are Mexicans so good at boxing?

>>1181345
Because it's popular among them. Same as black people and other third worlders.

>>1180713
In real life, effort be rewarded or lose all employees.

There's a reason Okinawa is considered the lazy backwater.

>What really grinds your gears about martial arts?
When doing throw sparing with Judoka and as soon as you off balance them they drop and cover like its a bomb drill.

I don't know what rules they use in Judo but that shit is both annoying and dumb. We ain't doing judo and they keep doing that shit I will pick them back up and suplex them.

>>1183258

Either you're a wrestler, than you should be familiar with the concept of trying to not get pinned down.

Or you a BJJ guy, in which case..

>... as soon as you off balance them..
this doesn't apply to you anyway.

>>1183319
Nope, probably would not believe me if I told you.

>>1183258
Or when you're doing throws and they do that annoying shit where they slam their arms on the mat so it sounds more impressive.

I want to spar, not to have an ego blowjob.

>>1183580
Break falling offends you? Why don't you train for more than a month you faggot. I sincerely hope you break your shoulder because you can't fall right

>>1183580
Wait what?
This is a troll right, or does someone really not know what break falls are?


Anyway, what grinds my gears is people who don't wash their uniforms often enough.
They can at least sniff it first or something before they come in and funk up the place.
Spray some disinfect on that shit or something.

>>1170692
yes, it is. Kung Fu was created as a way to make money by tricking people into thinking that what you're teaching them is super effective. They do everything at half speed so that they can pull of crazy impressive looking maneuvers. It has nothing to do with actual fighting, it's just a selling point.

>>1171577
bump for Anon

>>1183906
>>1183969
There's breaking your fall, and there's slamming your hand on the mat to make the throw sound like a super deadly technique.

It's not the wwe, it shouldn't sound like it.

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>>1184010
Joe Rogan pls

>>1184133

If slapping heartily helps, there's no reason not to.

I think it's extremely egotistical of you to assume that it's for your benefit anyway.

>>1184577
>>He isn't aware that the number one most used technique in mma is the kung fu technique baby monkey

>>1184654
>if slapping heartily helps

Please tell me how making extra noise when you fall during partner drills helps.

It's bullshit.

>>1185048

It's how I was taught; when you go down, slap the floor.

But you're right, I'm sure it's all about you.

>>1185066
Good goy, make the technique seem more powerful by amplifying the sound it produces, we will sell many white belts this march break!

>>1185164
Have you just never done judo? Also, when you do break something because of your shitty breakfall technique please upload the x-ray

>>1185048
>Please tell me how making extra noise when you fall during partner drills helps.
It dissipates and redirects force.

>>1184673
I am pretty sure the most used technique in mma is probably something like jab.

>>1185802
Actively using your muscles to slam your palm into the mat does not dissipate force.

>>1185886
Slamming your palm into the mat teaches you not to reach out when you are thrown. Please feel free to reach out and catch yourself on any kind of throw. Here is a study that supports the effectiveness of break falls in reducing the velocity of the impact of a throw.

http://www.jbiomech.com/article/S0021-9290(06)00004-2/abstract

>>1185934
>if you don't slap the mat you are automatically trying to grapple

Fuckin hands, how do they work?

Any of you guys carry something for self defense?
What is it; why do you carry it; and what martial art do you practice?

>>1186254
What the fuck are you even saying? Did you have a stroke? Hey buddy, I think you've got the wrong thread. The man drama faggotry is two threads down.

>>1186637
Fuck you!

But seriously, the hands don't need to be involved in break fall, and if they are, they don't need to be selling the fall like wrasslin.

>>1186527

It hasn't arrived yet but I recently bought a wooden cane for this purpose (potentially). I'll probably be training it mostly under swordsmanship methods but I also have The Walking Stick Method of Self Defence and plan to try that stuff with it as well.

It's just bare wood, though, so I think I'll have to paint it at some point if I want to carry it around like a big ol' fedora. Black maybe?

>>1186732
If you carry a cane you are multiplying the odds of someone trying to mug you to the power of 50.

ffs

>>1186765

How so?

>>1186765
If you are wearing pants you are multiplying your odds of someone trying to mug you by the power of 50.

My statement was also pulled out of my ass but at least it is still statistically closer to the truth then yours.

>>1185808
I was referencing a video where a chinese kung fu master responded to Joe Rogan's statement that kung fu was bullshit.

>>1186701
Curl your hands into a fist the next time you fall. Better yet, fall with your palms facing up

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http://www.kyokushinwla.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=19&Itemid=27&lang=en

>Nobody can achieve a 10th degree black belt for this was a special honor created only for the Sosai (Oyama).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this saying that nobody in Kyokushin Karate can achieve a black belt with ten gold stripes, or Judan rank except for that Mas Oyama guy?

>>1182059
So the only reason to do martial arts is for a belt? The reward is learning and being able to do things other people cant. Belts cant tell you how skilled a fighter actually is

>>1186527
Yes, all concealed. Because it's colder here, I can afford to wear layers.

>7 knives
>3 pistols
>1 baton
>1 pair of nunchaku
>1 kubaton
>titanium cellphone
>1 belt sword
>1 hand held body spray can shaped pepper spray
>1 gun pepper spray
>1 shoe knife
>both boots are steel toe
>reinforced leather knuckles on my leather gloves
>1 tiny knife kept in my mouth, left cheek
>1 pair of form fitting plastic shin guards
>1 pair of form fitting forearm guards
>all of my clothes are made of stab or slash resistant Kevlar and cunstruction

>>1185164
You are one huge untrained retard, why are you even posting here? I do Sanda and "punching" the mats when falling was what they trained us to do so we don't hurt ourselves.

Is there any way I can condition my body for judo without lifting weights? I'm skinny and flimsy as fuck, but I can barely afford my judo lessons, let alone a gym membership. I have a pullup bar, and that's about it

>>1191865
Bruce Wayne?

>>1192052
>pushups
>situps
>pullups
Start there

How do you guys think the MMA metagame is going to evolve over the next few years? First it was BJJ, then came wrestling, then came the unorthodox striking techniques from karate and tkd, and now we're in a period where more and more people are using technical, defensive boxing. What could come next?

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>>1192052
>have a pullup bar
That's great.

>>1192160
This.
Once you get used to that, you can start with elevated pushups and situps.

For legs, jump squats and sprints for cardio.

Don't neglect your back. I forgot what it's called, but you can lay on your stomach and bring yourself up as if you were doing back situps, maybe it's called a reverse situp.

>>1192745
>Fighters using their own blood to lubricate themselves and slip out from their opponent's grip
>Fighters using the cage to kick off and get sick ass knock outs

Tag teams would also be interesting

>>1192745
>What could come next?
I'm hoping more people can get a hint and realize they could mix all those things. It's MIXED martial arts, after all.

>>1192786
The thing about the metagame is, it was all done to counter what was popular before. If everyone mixed all that stuff together a meta would still emerge in which people that adapt to it quickly will do better than those that don't.

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>>1192745
I think we're going to see people who have come up with the intention of competing in MMA. It will be less wrestler turned MMA, boxer turned MMA etc.

Right now what we're seeing more and more is high level grapplers coming over to MMA. But they aren't just grapplers, they are people who have been thinking about competing for years. They have been training and had the intention to try out MMA.

Ryan Hall is a great example. I'm also excited for Garry Tonnon who is pretty damn young and has been wrestling and striking for years on top of his top level grappling game.

Basically, we're going to see actual MMA fighters. People who are more well rounded, and are good at using strikes to set up grappling. It's nothing new really, my coach has been doing it with shooto since 1993. Not everyone was as quick to catch on. Although, I suppose it is hard to find classes where they teach this. People on our MMA team already have a bunch of experience. And they don't teach striking entries in our grappling classes obviously.

>>1192052
You could try finding some free dumbbells on craigslist or something.

>>1153164
Why would kicks to the knee be considered cheap shots?

>>1191991
Punching the mats is fine. I'm talking about open palmed slapping the mats with extra force to make a louder noise.

>>1192838
Sage Northcutt was raised with the intention of competing in MMA, and look how he's doing

>>1192958
You're fundamentally misunderstanding the reasoning behind people doing that. No one's trying to fluff up their ego. It's just that everyone gets taught to slap the mat because it lowers the chance of injury.

>>1191259
Well he did basically create the art so yes.
Just look at his history. The guy was a beast.

>>1193318
He's actually a bad example because he was raised by someone who didn't know what they were doing.

>>1193366
Nothing your hands do has anything to do with injury prevention in that case.

Arms yes, hands no.

>>1193713
I wonder how long you are going to keep this troll going?
It has already been days.

>>1192838

Basically we'll see more guys like Rory MacDonald(Technically sound,good at everything)

>>1188732

>Curl your hands into a fist the next time you fall.

I've done this.

You can land with a clenched fist just fine (hitting the ground like a "hammer fist strike").

The important parts are:
-hitting the ground with a big area (the bigger, the better)
-landing on the biggest muscles of your body (your ass and the "latissimus dorsi", the back muscle)
-keep you upper leg slightly bend to prevent your knees from touching each other (BIG pain otherwise)

>>1193713

>Nothing your hands do has anything to do with injury prevention in that case.

Yes and no.

It doesn't really make a big difference if you slap the mat or not. But the slapping is very usefull to check teh distance to the impact and get the correct timing. Especially if you can't see the ground it will give you a feeling when to "put power" into your muscles. The actual impact is very short contracting, but you need the correct timing.

>>1131637
Well said, good sir. This should be used as a sticky.

>>1186732
Walking with a cane will serioisly fuck your stance. The actor from Dr. House got real issues with his shoulder because of walking so much with a cane when shooting the series.

>>1192838
This makes a lot of sense.
I heard some guys in locker room yesterday talk about how they needed more kickboxing if they wanted to try out MMA.

>>1197991

I don't think I'd be putting any weight on it normally, I'd sell it as an autism accessory.

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Does the color of a karate gi represent anything officially, or is it completely stylistic and personalized?

>>1197991
That is because he was using it wrong as fuck.
They even have a person in the show say he is using it wrong.

Though not the same I have hiked a few hundred miles in my life time using a walking stick and the only bad thing I noticed from it is it can cause hand cramps after a long day if it is too heavy.

>>1198380
>Does the color of a karate gi represent anything officially,
Not in any branch I have personally researched or talked to people from.
At the end of the day it is just a piece of workout gear that works well for martial arts.

If you were to pick a person (real or fictional) whose personal style is similar to yours who would it be?

Who's style would you like to fight like?

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>>1199412
>Who's style would you like to fight like?
Goku.

>>1199412
Brad burns or Bryan fury. A bit of both really.

>>1199412
I'm a ammy lightweight mma fighter with a background in boxing and muay thai that focuses on counter punching and clinch fighting and I'm shit on the ground. Not sure if there's anyone well known that's like that

>>1199725
>I'm a ammy lightweight mma fighter
Have any sparring or competition videos of yourself you'd be willing to share with us?

>>1199412
Zeke from Bob's Burgers

>>1199839
I'll try to find something. I've never been filmed while training and I'm not sure if my fights were, either. I'll see if I can come up with something.

>>1200907
It's the thought that counts.

>>1200615
You don't mean jairo?

>>1131510
Is it good or bad to do 10 minutes stretching everyday? (mostly static but with dynamic stretches as a warm up before I lift) Will I see improvement to my kick height as I'm learning TKD where kick height matters.

>>1199725
Steve Fox?

>>1201250
>Is it good or bad to do 10 minutes stretching everyday?
That's fine. If you're stretching one muscle group for 10min, I don't know what to tell you; I don't know if that's good or bad.

Let's say you exercise for 1h every day.
It'd be fine to do 16min of stretching every day like this.
Static stretch half way through your 1h exercise, and then again at the end.

Let's say you hold a stretch for each muscle group for 30 seconds each.
calf 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
that muscle next to your tibia 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
hamstring 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
quadriceps 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
outer thigh 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
adductor (inner thigh) 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
hip flexors 1 leg 30sec + other leg 30sec = 1min
dat ass 1 cheek 30sec + other cheek 30sec = 1min
Total: 8min. Time taken to transition between stretches not counted.

>>1201117
I wrestle so I'm zeke

>>1199412
>Who's style would you like to fight like?
Probably some retarded and edgy feral beserker shit. Oh, actually, like Joukyuu, if I get to be so superhuman that even aikido type stuff is ACTUALLY 2deadly.

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>>1199412

Pretty much any fighting game character would be great, but I think Rock in particular would be great.

Are you watching you gents watching ufc or bellator tonight?

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>>1131637
>TKD
>no punches

TKD does teach a range of punches, especially some very good palm strikes for close range hits to the face, nose and jaw. the sport of TKD only uses punches to the chest rarely but a full range of hand strikes in taught. especially at the higher levels.

Also, the American TKD Federation is literally a parasite, WTF or any of the fractured ITF are real TKD. i mean it has a fucking CAMO belt FFS!

>>1131637
>Western Boxing
A hello of a lot better than it should be considering the history of European martial arts, Boxing is an incredibly effective fighting style that is devastatingly aggressive, and despite what many people think definitely on the same level as eastern martial arts

>Muay Thai
Another fantastic fighting style

>Wing Chun
possibly the best defensive style

>TKD
Amazing kicks, 90% of clubs have insufficient real sparring but it's a surprisingly good style dispite it's reputation because most people don't really know how to fight against a kicker. a bad TKD fighter can win against a better opponent of another style if he gets one lucky kick to land, i've seen it happen many times

>Wrestling
never use this in a street fight, their friends will stomp you when you hit the ground, don't do it.

>Judo
do this instead of wrestling, it's more effective against non wrestlers, but still don't use groundwork in a real fight against more than one person

>Jiu-jitsu (Brazilian and Japanese)
GET OFF THE FUCKING GROUND THEIR FRIENDS WILL LITERALLY KILLYOU

>Krav Maga
The real martial art treats people like animals, and requires a real nasty mindset to actually use. the shit they teach in clubs is retarded bullshit

>Aikido
stop learning weapon martial arts and expecting them to be practical, they are fun, but of little use in a real fight

>Karate
Overhyped, but quite good, a lot of "internal" bullshit like meditation though, and bullshit politics all over the place, but a good range of styles if a little light on kicking

>>1202882
>a lot of "internal" bullshit like meditation though
Short meditation where you close your eyes and clear your mind before class can actually be very beneficial to learning and practicing martial arts.

>>1202863
Teaches but barely trains them. Kinda like most American "muay thai" gyms with regards to knees and elbows.

Even ITF is lacking in the punch dept. In a fight I seen on YouTube between a tkd guy and a Nak muy, Mr tkd was only comfortable in long range but once cornered he couldn't fight off the nak's punches.

>>1202882
>Jiu-jitsu (Brazilian and Japanese)
GET OFF THE FUCKING GROUND THEIR FRIENDS WILL LITERALLY KILLYOU

This is funnier than it should have been

/fit/ isn't answering my question, so I'll ask here.

I'm about to start incorporating heavy bag work into my fitness routine. I'd like to condition my hands to get stronger, but at the same time I'd also like to avoid destroying them being a retard. Can I get away with only wraps while I do the bag work, or should I go get some gloves too?

>>1202882
Butt hurt striker detected. Still mad James Toney got his ass kicked? I seriously don't understand how you faggots can seriously think that you'll be able to fight off a horde of enemies in some autistic fight scenario like Jackie Chan with your striking skills. Make one of them an ex rugby player and you're going on your ass without a prayer. Only a delusional idiot would neglect any facet of his training.

>>1203664

This is a fraudulent counterpoint. If nobody can fight off a "horde" of enemies, and you're counting on the opponent playing nice, why train martial arts? Buy a gun instead.

The entire basis of self-defense martial arts is that you can overcome a bad situation with sufficient training and conditioning. But you need to come at it with the mindset that it won't be a dueling situation and if Many versus You situations are on the table, I don't think it's arguable that training yourself to go for the ground is a bad idea. The focus of grappling training should be avoiding getting caught, getting back to your feet if caught, and whatever you can do while standing.

Grappling should be trained but striking should be preferred if you're not in an octagon or a gymnasium with mats down.

Recently I've been interested in learning Wing Chun and would greatly appreciate if any of you could clarify some of my doubts.

Will it help me improve spatial/situational awareness? I'm practically sedentary, would I be able to start training dispite this or should I hit the gym for a couple months before? How effective is Wing Chun and does it help improving agility and dexterity?

>>1203620
I recommend using gloves too. I'm not an expert but imo using wraps only is to condition the hands more slowly than going raw but still is heavy impact on the hand joints. Use gloves if you are trying to keep maximum dexterity. Good luck in your training sir

>>1204018
Quick disclaimer : I've never trained in any form of Kung fu.

Any martial art, really, should aid in awareness. You could jump right into training, everyone will know that you're a n00b and will walk you through baby steps no matter what fitness level. However, it will be a lot easier if you were more fit first. Good cardio and muscle endurance will go a long way.
As far as wing chun's effectiveness in fights: it's as good as you make it. I recommend you cross train in boxing or kickboxing though. Dexterity will improve but I'm not sure about agility. The vids I've seen show poor footwork but that hand speed is ridiculous.

>>1204018
>How effective is Wing Chun
In-fighting, straight punches, parries and blocks, and whatever else Wing Chun has is effective.
Some things are more likely to be pulled off than others.
What really develops skill is the training methods.
Sparring helps a lot with developing skill, not to say other training methods are useless.

>that one video of some Anon's fight club or some shit
They were all sparring, and they didn't look so good.

>>1204425
>They were all sparring, and they didn't look so good.
All sparing is my dream gym. I do this for the fun, fighting ability is secondary.

>>1204018
>Will it help me improve spatial/situational awareness?
Maybe a little bit.

>I'm practically sedentary, would I be able to start training dispite this or should I hit the gym for a couple months before?
You'll be fine, it's probably a good level of excesrcise for you to start with if you're unfit.

How effective is Wing Chun
On a scale of 1-10; 0

>does it help improving agility and dexterity?
Not really, maybe if you're a legit couch potato

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>>1199412
>If you were to pick a person (real or fictional) whose personal style is similar to yours who would it be?
I'm a well rounded fighter, so I fight like the dominating, over powered character in Dead or Alive 5, Mila.

How few rest days can we get away with or work ourselves up to? Like for serious training, is 1 rest day optimal? Also how many per day and how long should training sessions last?

How do I sign up for a martial art? Do I just rock up to the dojo and become a member or what? Every website I look at is vague as fuck. I really want to do bjj or jkd

What are the protocols/etiquette for this shit?

>>1207059
go to the dojo and say you want to try it out

i want to do Sambo,Judo or Wrestling, so what are the benefits of each?(each place has produced olympians)

>>1207121
Sambo is closer to MMA, the superior way to train sport hand to hand combat.

>>1207059
Go and challenge the head teacher to a fight. It'll show your warrior spirit and win you their respect.

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Humour me a stupid question. What martial art is all that flying fancy shit Black Widow does.

I'm a white belt in TKD. How long should I practice (I do a 90 minute class every other Monday)
I'm thinking of doing 20 minutes on cardio days. Is this enough?

>>1207059
Just go to the gym/dojo and talk to them.

I just quit wing chicken tonight, what a shit, patty-cake based excuse for a martial art.

A successful thread! Thanks guys. Keep the dream alive! Martial artists will live in /asp/ yet.

>>1210036
>patty-cake based
The teaching methods really depends on the teacher.

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>>1199412
Although I train in a style of hapkido my fighting style probably closest resembles Goh Hinogami virtua fighter.

>Who's style would you like to fight like?
Probably Big Boss.

>>1212597
This place is not completely lost yet.

I can do my pattern practice just fine but as soon as I get to practicing kicks my stamina just goes after 7-8 minutes non stop practice. Should I space my practice out a little more or should I stick with what I'm doing?
What TKD belt should I be at before practicing roundhouse kicks, side kicks etc? White belt here, my front kick is going ok.

>>1215048
As long as you can practice every other day, you're good. You might want to rest a little in between things so you're not too tired to develop your technique well.

You can practice roundhouse kicks and side kicks right now, if you wanted to. If you're working towards getting belts, you should practice whatever you need to, to get your belts.
In sparring, a variety of kicks is nice to have.

>>1215061
Good to hear it. My issue with my roundhouse kick is that I tend to sweep with my leg after pivoting, and as such I don't "snap" and thus strike with the side of my foot. Any advice to correct myself, or is it a matter of practice?

Fill in the variables, where x=martial art and t=time.

"Someone who has trained x for at least t should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficult."

>>1215667
Someone who has trained Aikido for at least 10 years should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty.

>>1215667
Someone who has trained Krav Maga for 7 days should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty.

>>1215667
Someone who has trained Tae Kwon Do for at least 1 year should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty.

Is there any downside to training every day alongside lifting on the days I do that too?

>>1217528
I heard somewhere that some mma fighters only do 2 heavy compound lifts per workout, and don't often test for 1RM

>>1215210
Turn your left foot.

>>1217557
Testing for 1rm is just for fun / powerlifting tournaments.

>>1217528
As long as your body can handle that kind of workload, I don't see a problem.

>>1199412
Andy Hug

>>1199725
Anderson silva

>>1215667
Someone who has trained Boxing for 8 hours should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty.

>Western Boxing
The most basic yet most effective striking art

>Muay Thai
The most complete striking art

>Wing Chun
Complete utter horse shit

>TKD
Sparring with no punches and your hands at your waist is fucking stupid

>Wrestling
The core skill of modern mma. If you fight someone with better wrestling than you you're going to lose. Also takedown defence is an important skill for streetfighting.

>Judo
Can tend overrely on the gi and the stand up is unrealistic without leg attacks. Although it is fun to throw someone into oblivion.

>Jiu-jitsu (Brazilian and Japanese)
Once again if your opponent has better jiu jitsu then you then your fucked. The most proven martial art in the world just watch gracies in action or the early ufcs.

>Krav Maga
Mediocre mma with a focus on groin kicks and eye gauges.

>Aikido
lol no

>Karate
Kyokushin is probably the most realistic style of karate but even then your not allowed to punch to the face which is stupid

>>1207649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97hO7FlaAok
After a quick glance, it looks like:
- tactical non-lethal weapons-fu
- gymnastics
- (all those nut shots) krav maga
- maybe some capoeira

>>1215667
Someone who has trained BJJ for at least 6 months should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty.

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>>1218350
>your not allowed to punch to the face which is stupid
Kyokushin Karate is the gentleman's kickboxing.

>>1218350
Also
>Hapkido
Kata bullshit

>Mcmap
Mediocre mma. Good for building morale though

>American Kenpo
Chuck liddell trained it although he's incredibly punchy now.

>Eskrima
Probably the most effective weapon art although alot of it is kata bullshit

>Japanese JuJutsu
Watered down crap which hasn't been used for hundreds of years

>Sambo
MMA in a gi extremely effective. The way judo should have been.

>Capoeira
A cool dance but not much else.

>Wushu
Kata bullshit

>Sanshou
Kickboxing with takedowns very effective

>Savate
Kickboxing in shoes and a gay ass outfit.

>Jeet Kune Do
A mixture of everything with a good sparring philosophy. Bruce lee was ahead of his time.

>Tai chi
Good if you're fighting someone with cerebral palsy.

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>>1218502
>Kickboxing in shoes and a gay ass outfit.
It might be less gay than the wrestling outfit.

>>1218642
True

>>1215210
It sounds like you might need to remember to pivot on your support leg during the kick.
Ask you instructor to take a look at your RH kicks and tell you how to do them better.

>>1218502
>Hapkido
>Kata bullshit

But it doesn't even have kata. Is that the joke?

>>1170732
No sparring? Yeah, total McDojo.

>>1181345
Because they had to fight over the last can of beans I'm the house! Archie Bunker is king!

>>1170732
I see nothing fraudulent. If your interested in daito ryu or danzan ryu I see no reason not to look at them.

It seems some danzan ryu groups spar and some don't, its odd because danzan ryu was once closely associated with judo and even participated in judo tournaments early on.

Ive seen videos of the founders students and I like what I saw, less so some of the contemporary groups

>>1202882
>wrestling is bullshit

Because stopping a takedown is bullshit? Not everyone is some karate faggot. Some people just bumrush for the takedown, and knowing how to stop that is key.

Also, for whatever reason if you do get put on the ground, it would be beneficial to know how to get the fuck back up. Or you could just depend on your friends to stop the other guy out for you.

>>1203664
Toney fan reporting in, and while I will make excuses all day for that, the fact of the matter is you need to know how to fight from anywhere! If you trip, get swept, etc. Saying don't waist your time on these tried and true methods is just fucking retarded!

>>1215210
So you spin through? Just shadow more. Thatll make your muscle stronger at stopping your leg and getting that snap. When you use a bag, that stops it for you, so you get better control with shadow, then power with the bag.

>>1218642
No pics, because I told people don't take pics, but I had to fight in an integral that was all black with a rainbow stripe running up each side, and rainbow across the chest. My coach thought it was hilarious.

All seriousness though, minus the gay ass onesie, it's a badass art.

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>>1220077
Dubs don't lie

>>1219631
Only took one DZR class but it was the most bullshido moment of my life. They're basically just judo guys who had to rebrand because the IJF wouldn't certify their bullshit. I would like to be proven wrong, maybe I just had a bad experience.

>>1220677
The founder studied judo but he also studied some older jujutsu stuff. (mostly yoshin ryu I think) and some other stuff floating around Hawaii at the time

>>1215667
Someone who has trained gunfu for at least one minute should be able to handle an untrained opponent in a street fight without too much difficulty

>>1218239
>Anderson silva
But Anderson silva did Capoeira and Taekwondo.

Bump dis shyt

>>1169138
>file name
kekekekeke

>>1170717
>real fight footage

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>>1199412
Goki

>>1222945
What is a real fight?

>>1208081
Cardio is important but flexibility is everything, if you can, stretch every day

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Question: I had been practicing TKD for nearly 1 year, but I cant still fucking calm myself before a sparring in a tournament or in general.

Does anyone have some tips on how the fuck control your nerves

>>1225052
Mindfulness meditation can help with nerves.
In this specific situation experience helps too. Sort of like exposure therapy. After doing it for a while, or often enough you mind adapts and you get used to it.

>>1224111
What is a real life?

>>1225105
What is a fantasy?

>>1225323
caught in a landslide

>>1225401
no escape from reality

>>1225403
Open your eyes

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Doing MT, is bodybuilding beneficial to boxing? Also is C2K good for running if I want endurance?

Is Jeet Kune Do a real martial art or is it more like a training philosophy? Also, how good is it?

I want to practice something that focus more on speed, parrying and dodging, is jkd what i'm looking for?

>>1226490
>Is Jeet Kune Do a real martial art or is it more like a training philosophy?
Jeet Kune Do is a philosophy.
Bruce Lee made a martial art based on his philosophy, which is called Jun Fan Jeet Kune Do.

>>1226479
>Doing MT, is bodybuilding beneficial to boxing?
Are you calling Muay Thai "Boxing?"

>C2K
What is C2K?

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>>1226659
Well my post was all sorts of fucked up, I meant couch to 5k, it's a running program

>>1226479
>>1226801
That running program isn't bad for fighting endurance, but it's better to hit a bag as hard as you can.
In a fight, you're most likely going to try to hit your opponent as hard as you can most of the time, and running doesn't simulate that well.
In a fight, fighters often go from 0 to 100 multiple times throughout their rounds. It's kind of like sprinting for a few seconds, and then walking.

>>1226825
I'm just a beginner so how many sets of, let's say 10 punches should I work to in the beginning? Also any tips on throwing punches and kicks from your non main stance?

>>1226882
Just work on whatever combinations you've learned.
The stuff with switching stances really comes into play most when you're against an opponent.

>>1226882
>>1228328
Exactly. Just remember to keep light on your feet, kept moving and circling the bag, cut angles, and mix up your combos.

>>1131510
lewd image is lewd

>>1233941
Slightly. Just slightly.

Plus it's 2 badass fighting characters; one of which, I would fight the other for groping rights.

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>>1235946
butterface

I did some cycling as a warm up as today is a TKD practice/cardio day. When I went to do some kicks, I felt a twinge in my abductor muscle, making turning kicks impossible.
Should I chalk this down as a one off?

>>1236189
This is 4chan.
Like that would stop anyone here.

>>1236458
R.I.C.E. it and then stretch it out after a few days.
See how it feels then.

>>1236499
Shall do, sucks that I likely can't practice for a few days this way... Should I skip squats tomorrow and Saturday just to be safe?

>>1236524
Better safe than sorry.
Better to have arrived too early than to have arrived too late.
Better to have cut off too little wood than to have cut off too much wood.
Better to have thrown the ball too short than to have thrown it too far.
Better to have stopped your car too early than to have stopped your car too late.
A lot of the time, anyway.

>>1236532
You're right. Once I'm more flexible would it be feasable to practice gently with relatively cold muscles? Given you'll rarely have the chance to warm up in an actual fight...

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>>1236810
>practice gently with relatively cold muscles
That sounds like warming up.

>you'll rarely have the chance to warm up in an actual fight
That's not always very true.

You could be in the club, getting your dance on, and then accidentally step on a nigga's shoes. That nigga could be pissed the fuck off, and swing at your head, but you're already warmed up from such graceful sexy dancing.

You could be walking down the street, which is a warm up, and suddenly, a wild mugger appears. You ain't got no Pokéballs, but your legs are already warmed up, you can literally kick his ass.

You could be eating at an expensive and fancy restaurant with a smoking hot cutie, and then start getting annoyed by another customer that's getting annoyed at you. That customer keeps up the bullshit, and when you're about to leave back to the hotel to get down and dirty, the asshole tries to start shit outside. He could be saying all kinds of bullshit while amped up, insulting you, yelling at you and shit, you can warm up while shit talking, then proceed to push his shit in.

I feel pain in my left hip joint when I lift my left leg to the side. I can't do any side kicks without wincing because of it. What do I do?

>>1131637
Taido
>Lots of fast movement
>High amount of power generated for spinning around various axes
>Good mix of kicking and striking
>Extremely good flexibility developed

>>1171577
>http://www.oldschoolmuaythai.com/

http://www.oldschoolmuaythai.com/instructors/

They seem to have pretty legit people there. Go in, try it, if it feels off you can just call it quits. It says you can trial for $30 for 2 weeks

>>1240058
Sounds like it is ether the flexor or the joint.

Google the treatment and rehab program for your particular injure once you figure out what exactly it is.

If after following it for a few weeks it don't get better or get worse then you must go to a doctor to get it checked out.

>have long flaccid penis
>not bragging, it hands down the side of my leg
>be sparring, Knockdown Karate rules
>take an inside leg kick
>that inside leg kick landed on my dick
>I got kicked in the dick
>it hurt really bad
>It hurts to pee
Should I get my doctor to look at my penis?

>>1240058
See a doctor/physician

>>1242615
Why were you not wearing a cup?

>>1243040
Do you wear a cup every time you spar?

Would it be a good idea to "mix" my TKD with boxing when I practice at home?

>>1244995
That could very well be one of the best ideas you've ever had your entire life.

>>1202882
>European MA suck

Boxing, wrestling, BJJ, Krav Maga (Israelis made it famous, but European Jews invented it), BJJ, Savate, etc. compared to what? A style or two of Karate and Muay Thai?

Take off the gi, try sparring.

>>1247296
BJJ isn't European. Catch wrestling is, though.

>>1204425
The problem with wing chun's sparring is that they always pull their punches which reduces their speed significantly. Morons don't realize this and assume they'll be able to make those parries and ripostes in a real fight the same way they can in sparring, but as it turns out when someone isn't decelerating their arm so as not to hit you, it's much much harder.

Is TaeKwonDo + Boxing + Jui Jitsui a good combo? I don't see how it couldn't be.

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I want to git gud at fighting, my gym usually has 3 classes a day, each of them an hour. I switch between them so on one day I would end up taking 2 Muay Thai Classes and one BJJ class, then the other day I'd take 1 Muay Thai Class and 2 BJJ Classes.

What should I do in terms of diet? I'm currently 5'6 153lb, should I focus on gaining muscle or losing weight?

When it comes to conditioning I'm pretty bad, some things people have brought up are running and bag work, what else can I do to condition well and are there programs out there specifically for wanna be fighters?

>>1251720
>I don't see how it couldn't be.
The huge standup grappling hole.

>>1218502
>>Wushu
>Kata bullshit
Kill yourself, kindly

>>1252189
>What should I do in terms of diet?
Just eat a balanced diet. Remember to mix in fiber with your carbs, proteins, and fats.
Stay hydrated, don't give a fuck if you pee more.

>are there programs out there specifically for wanna be fighters?
Spar more often, don't spar as much getting close to competitions, you don't want to be concussed, bruised, contused, or worse the days before your fight.

How much practice should I be doing? I'm thinking of 10 or 20 minutes 3 times a week excluding lesson time.

>>1198380
No. It's really just supposed to be white. That's it's original and most basic color. Any other color is just preference.

>>1243421
Yes.

Not just when I spar but whenever there is a lot of "contact" going on.
Better to be uncomfortable but safe then end up with broken junk.

Cup does not really get rid of the pain but is decreases the risk of damage of getting hit in the groin.

I actually need to replace mine because it is starting to crack from taking so many accidental shots. Now imagine if I was not wearing it and my dick/balls took all that damage.

>>1253877
>How much practice should I be doing?
That really depends on you and your goals.

Though I would say 10 to 20 minutes is not much time.

A longer session where you get fully warmed up, get a workout in, and practice the stuff you want to practice is best. Then after while you are still warm you can stretch really good.
Not only will it improve your conditioning, but being warm will lessen the risk of injury and improve your performance, meaning more correct tech to feed your muscle memory and less down time.

Setting side a hour or so is much better even if you do it less times a week.