How do white sharks even compete?

>>2445208
>the great white lives on while the megalodon is extinct
Seems like they do better.

They compete quite well, as megalodon dropped out of the competition.

There's no competition. Really just came down to food source, which came down to methane levels or oxygen levels or whatever, right?

Imagine how different human history would be if megalodons never died out.

They died because they sucked at efficiency. Dumb fucks.

If you are not efficient you will disappear over evolutionary time.

>>2445431
Do you think it would have made a decisive impact on naval travel? I find it unlikely.

>>2445208
>20 feet max
Biggest pointer ever was 23

>>2445433
This and were BTFO by the evolution of killer whales.

>how do compete?
With big pointy teeth.

master race

Is it possible that megalodons are just larger great whites, due to an abundance of food, or do we know for sure it was its own species?

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>>2445431
Deep sea threads on /tv/ and /v/ would be slightly more interesting.

>>2446023
Genomic evidence has shown whites and makos have a common ancestor distinct from megalodon

>>2446033
>tfw you will never have a goofy pet great white that won't kill you

>>2446080

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7r2cBgr0rs

>>2445695
I think it would have. Imagine a wale-sized carnivore

>>2446110

do you think they would have been actively attacking ships? why?

legitimately curious

>>2446111
Probably not but I imagine they would have been a significantly larger threat than whales

>>2446111
Sharks are pretty curious by nature. Great whites are the only fish that will breach the surface simply to get a look of what's happening up there.

Sharks regularly take bites out of things that seem foreign to them. It's why sometimes people get their leg bit off and are left to bleed out.

Now imagine a megalodon taking an investigative bite out one of Columbus' ships. It'd sink the fucking thing with just one nibble.

I'm not saying that every ship at sea would be sunk, but it'd sure as shit make things incredibly difficult in terms of crossing an ocean.

>>2446115
Has there ever been a recorded incident where a shark took a bite out of a wooden boat. They have sensors in their nose right so they bump into a wooden ship and dont bother it. The only bites ive seen are some out that fiberglass material and the blow up boats but never a wooden ship.

It would probably only affect recreational offshore fishing in boats around 20-40 feet

more like megaL O N D O N

>>2446023
The teeth had no serrations, while those of a Great White do. Pretty significant difference.

>>2446123
I mean I'm sure it's happened, there's reports of people finding all sorts of junk in sharks stomachs. But I guess magellan and de soto would be fine sailing the seas

>>2446053
>Genomic evidence has shown whites and makos have a common ancestor distinct from megalodon
This is false, we don't have DNA from megalodon.
>>2446586
>The teeth had no serrations
This is also false.

>>2446110
So like...an orca or sperm whale?

>>2445945
This is bullshit

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>>2446915
>Megalodon dies out in the Pliocene
>Orcinus appears in the Pliocene
I would ask how Carcuckochles could ever compete but evidently it couldn't, and neither will Carcuckodon the way things are going.

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>>2446023

Megalodon is the end of the line. We know this because we have clear fossil evidence leading up to Megalodon, and then nothing afterwards. The issue seems to have primarily been climate change, and their prey flocking to waters too cold for Megalodon. Without enough food to sustain them in the warm regions they were stuck in, they didn't have time enough to evolve before they starved to death.

The portrayal of Megalodon as just a big great white is more an artist's interpretation based on jaw similarities than actual fact/evidence of common ancestry.

>>2446110
>Imagine a whale-sized carnivore
>implying whales aren't carnivores

>>2445208
Megs are 65 feet.

>>2446945
Leading theory was that the rising sea levels cooling down, loss of the majority of the fauna the Megs hunted on and cannibalism of young Megs by older ones is what lead to the extinction of it, not because of Killer Whales suddenly appearing you mongoloid.

>>2447005
>Sea levels cool down
>species more adapted to colder ocean temperatures take over
>species not adapted die out

>evvvolluushunnn

megalocuck

>>2447026
>thing happens
>megs die off
>unrelated thing happens in response to first thing
>m-megalocuck!
go to seaworld and choke on shamu's dick you whalefucker

>>2445208
>How do white sharks even compete?
anon, they won

>>2446945
>two events that happened at the same time must be correlated
yeah just like how the number of pirates are related with global warming you woofus

>>2447040
>these two completely unrelated things aren't causally linked therefore the extinction of a large aquatic predator at around the same time as the appearance of another significantly smarter large aquatic predator can't be causally linked

>>2445208
By not going extinct

>>2447026
>something totally different happen to cause the Meg to go extinct
>"haha this totally relates to my original claim that Orcas owned it!"
Retard.

>>2446123

Yep. Also sharks are wildly misrepresented in media and entertainment stuff. They're not this wild rapid sea monster they with constant urge to fuck shit up with prejudice. When I shark bites a boat it's somewhat more along the lines of curious sea pupper is curious, attempts to nom, is thing nom-able or no? Bite.

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>Swimming between a pair of claspers bigger than you.

>>2447402
the intelligence of the average phone poster. amazing

>>2447344
Are you a fucking retard who just learned English today?

>>2447435
He is very clearly a shark that learned to type

>>2447040
It's simple, really. More ocean means more boats, and more boats means more pirates.

I for one welcome the second coming of the golden age of piracy.

>>2447576
Well, good job then. Way to go Shark-anon.

>>2447909
We had better all get fancy hats and parrots.

>>2446902
>>2446975
no you idiots, like a whale-sized GWS

>>2448167
Large white pointers are bigger than several extant whales.

>>2448245
A BIG WHALE-SIZED GREAT WHITE, GOD FUCK JESUS YOU PEDANTIC FAGGOTS

>>2448245
only someone who calls it a "white pointer" could come up with a response this autistic

>>2448322
He should have specified Mysticeti.

Aren't Megs more then likely to be closer related to Makos then Great Whites? And yes I am aware that Makos and Great Whites themselves are closely related to each other.

>>2445208
That's one upvote for you

What does great white shark taste like? I like mako shark a lot.

>>2446033
fuck that thing is huge

>>2447048
Correlation does not imply causation

>>2449431
Redditfag

>>2445215
Why did megalodon go extinct?

>>2452510

The shift towards the Ice Age killed off several species of small baleen whales that are assumed to have been favorite prey of Megalodon. Combined with increased competition from newly emerging predators and a probable propensity for cannibalism, they didn't stand much chance.

>>2446110
why would they attack ships?
and they would not be able to come close enough to shore to hurt coastal people
even if they did attack small fishing boats you would have big ships of people armed with harpoons going out to kill the "monster fish"

>>2446115
but wood reads as nothing to them
they might swim under it but it would seem just like a drifting oddly shaped tree to them

they nibble humans because humans are alive and giving of electrical signals

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>>2452577

They attack humans because the silhouette is reminiscent of their prey. If a boat was size appropriate to be a whale, and say oars looked like fins so fairly similar in shape, it would be quite likely to get an inquisitory bite.

>>2448167
So like...an orca or sperm whale?

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*Blocks your path*
What now megalocucks?

>>2452588
wrong. sharks attack humans differently than they do sea lions or turtles

>>2453997
No evidence Orcas caused the Meg to go extinct, you faggot.

>>2446548

too right

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>>2447040
>Implying both of those aren't related

>>2445208
no

>>2454021
But they did, anon.
White Megalocucks couldn't compete with the BBOrcaC.
Outbred, outmatched, overpowered by the superior mammal

>>2454289
Yeah and you never hear anyone bitching about ''megalodon genocide''

Post more webms of sharks being bros.

Is this thread really still alive?

Wtf /an/

How would whales kill a specialized whale killer in direct conflict? I could see killer whales out competing them because when large food dries up they can eat dinky fish and megs would no be able too. Megs though would just bite them in half or cut off their tail in out and out conflict.

>>2454409
A considerable proportion of B. musculus bare scars from Orca attacks. If they can take down whales they can take down Megalodon easy.

>>2454409
Sharks are too dumb to survive a coordinated attack
In other news water is wet! More at eleven where we will also receive new footage of antifas killing each others and shotting down police helicopters!

>>2454403
welcome to /an/ where slow threads that manage to get a few posts a week can end up here for months

>>2454378
>Divers have won

>>2445208
Megalodon mpende
>Needlessly aggressive
>Steals from free dispensing machines
>Has to live on gov handouts or else it goes extinct (and it did)
>Can't live in the cold
>Noisy and huge for lack of self-confidence
>Short nose

Great white shark
>Noble, only attacks when needed
>Can survive cold environments
>Most probably catholic
>Does not need to be big, he has more things to fell proud of and knows it
>Average nose (but not too big, that's jewish)

>>2456121
It's not a coincidence it's called a Great WHITE Shark.
Great Whites are Aryans.
Black nigger Orca whale babies will never compete.

>>2446945
those werent adults

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>>2455083

>>2456306
Not like an adult Pointer wouldn't get fucked up by an Orca too.

>>2446115
You seem to forget what animal those sharks would be fucking with
You're right in the sense that it would alter our history but it would only be altered in the design of our boats and possible fishing weaponry
The second man saw a fellow sea explorer get taken out by megalodon and live to tell the tale would be the second that sharks existence would become threatened
Man would devise a way to combat them be it in the design of our ships or our weapons to hunt them
We wouldn't continue on the path of crossing our fingers that a giant shark doesn't kill us and keep sending defenseless boats out

>>2456626
what the fuck is a pointer

>>2445208
Team mammal owned that, dude. The largest animals on earth are all Mammals now. We're efficient, compassionate, emotional, we care for our young, we organize into coherent hunting groups, etc. We just win.

In case it's news to anyone, mammals have been winning the game for a long time. Birds don't stand a chance either now that humans are on the scene.

>>2456929
Mammals just got lucky they got to fill the niche the dinosaurs left
If they hadn't been driven to mass extinction we'd still be gerbil sized faggots running from one hole to the next

>>2456937
>lucky

No, that's not luck, that's efficiency, excellence, and domination. Our ancestors were eating their young right out from under them. And insects are stiff competition and they didn't stand a chance, either.

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>>2445208

>great white 20 ft max

>>2446110

so like...a whale?

>>2456912
a great white

>>2456121

someone should make the virgin shark meme

>>2445208
They actually still exist

>>2457097
Proof or STFU sharkweek.

>>2445208
everyone knows megamouths are patrician shark

For decades, many ichthyological works, as well as the Guinness Book of World Records, listed two great white sharks as the largest individuals: In the 1870s, a 10.9 m (36 ft) great white captured in southern Australian waters, near Port Fairy, and an 11.3 m (37 ft) shark trapped in a herring weir in New Brunswick

>>2457271
>I once caught a fish THIS big

>>2446110
>what is a fucking killer whale

>>2454289
Orca dicks are pink.

>>2446110
>imagine a whale sized carnivore
so just a whale then?

>>2454409
>Sharks are solitary predators
>Killer whales hunt in packs
>Killer whale are also much smarter

>>2454403
megalodons are cool faggot