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Bump. Suo is also a brown Jewish idiot.

Guess I'll post here too. I'm:
>>2426143
>>2426799
>>2426811
And I am looking for some advice getting on helping my betta repair his fins now that he's feeling better.

>>2426829
Clean water is the best thing you can do. Small water changes every other day till his fins start healing

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>>2426834
Thanks, say maybe 20%? This is the aquarium he's in.

>>2426848
Seems quite small. Look into an upgrade though so water parameters are more stable. 5 gallon is a good start :)

>>2426850
Thanks, I will. I had wanted a pet fish for a while, just walked into Petco one day and the guy basically set me up to wish I had a better tank, more knowledge, missing tons of equipment. Perfect employee. I had to keep coming in to buy shit. Bought ghost shrimp from him on suggestion, betta beat the shit out of them and ate them, same with some neon tetras.

He said my dude is just aggressive but I've since discovered it is just a crowding thing. When I have space to set up a 5gal I will, It does look odd and small, because the damned picture is photoshopped for no apparent reason. All of the fish are the same picture, and despite it being a cylinder there is no distortion on the rocks like there is in real life. It's 2.5 and I really only intended to keep 1 fish in it.

Hopefully I can keep him healthy for a few more months till I can afford and have space for a bigger tank.

this is the real thread
>>2426733
>>2426733
>>2426733

This thread was made first. Sorry but mods will delete other one.

>>2426857
>getting butthurt over a real vs fake thread bc someone other than u made the thread thatll last for like 2 days max
go outside

Got the other thread deleted. Another win for me.

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picked up these two today. they've been stuck to each other like glue since i put them in the tank. really nice couple

What's a good small fish that doesn't mind being alone?
I'm going for a planted micro aquarium (about 1.5g) and I'll put a couple of shrimp in there, but I thought I could experiment with a small, hardy fish. Of course, I can obviously only house one guy in there.
I love tetras, but would having a single one work?
Would a guppy do?

How much should I have to pay for a 70 gallon tank?
I thought building one would be cheaper, but the glass is ridiculously expensive, online at least. Looked at lowes and they don't even have 1/4 inch glass only 1/8 or 3/32.
Then I look for tanks and I see 75 gallons selling for $550.
I look it up and see people claiming they get tanks for a dollar a gallon so that would only be around $70.

I just need a damn glass box

>>2426957
Everyone report this.

>>2426976
Think you missed one, >>2426962

>>2426974
Wait for one on craigslist in the free section or for dirt cheap. When one pops up, go check it out and look for imperfections.

Trust me, if you are patient, you will be glad you did. There are a lot of people who wont bother trying to sell an aquarium.

>>2426976
What for? Reporting things that do not break rules is itself against the rules. Did you accidentally reply to the wrong post?

>>2426727
First time aquarium owner. Currently cycling the aquarium to get it ready to add fish. Was thinking about 1 Dwarf Gourami, 3 Corys and a school of endlers or tetras. Think they'll get along fine in a 10g tank? Also, do you guys have any recommendations about plants and stuff for the tank? Are there certain plants that would help balance PH/ ammonia levels? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

>>2426958
snail

Trust me anon, I spent months looking for micro fish. There just aren't any that will be happy in that small of a tank.

You could get away with a 2.5, pretty well planted, and a betta, but that's the min. Even then, you would need to change stuff up in the tank often to keep your fish from being bored.

>>2427015
It's advertising

>>2426958
Tetras and guppy get stressed if they can't school.

>>2427125
One time per thread isn't advertising, especially when there is no product, and thousands of threads on 4chan have their own discord. Tilt is a powerful drug.

>>2427193
open

What is the pit bull of fish?

>>2427026
All plants are a 20 foot high border wall against nitrogen

Your pH should just be stable, unless you put a serious effort into changing it and have soft water which has less stability. It rarely ever matters as long as it's between 6.5 and 7.5, your fish will adapt

>>2426974
>I look it up and see people claiming they get tanks for a dollar a gallo
That is petco's sale, which is legit but only tends to go up to 40G aquariums.

>>2427009's suggestion is good. Also search for local fishkeeper groups. They tend to have even better deals (and more trustworthy) than craig's.

Also, $550 even for a brand new, off-the-shelf 70G tank is insane. Where are you looking? Is it some special tank, e.g. acrylic or low iron?

>>2427223
Oscars probably.

Hard to say exactly since nearly all fish are aggressive under the right circumstances (e.g. if you have a sick fish, practically everyone is going to take a bit out of it if it's bad enough).

In the world of cichlids Oscars pretty ho-hum yet a lot of people think they're the ultimate and those people are usually ill-prepared to really care for a fish that gets that big, and do not understand that much smaller fish will get wrecked by large fish.

I dunno. Super imperfect comparison but that's my pick.

>>2426958
Shrimp. http://aquariuminfo.org/crs.html for instance. Or maybe neocardina davidi if you like solid colors with a bit easier water parameters (at least for me).

>largest crayfish in the tank kicks a smaller crayfish out of it's home and digs a bigger hole in it
>it then goes back to living in its PVC pipe
>just today i see that it dug another hole into another small crayfish's home and went back to live in it's PVC pipe
why is everybody such a dickbag

>>2427026
>>2427229
Some are better than others.

Anything fast growing tends to be much better than anything slow growing.

Floating plants like duckweed tend to be better than anchored/planted plants, however that has downsides so I doubt anyone would rely solely on floating plants, if at all.

Aquaponics is the king of them all if you have a good external setup, e.g. a light source directly feeding the plants. Most people use something hardy and super fast growing like Pothos, although many alternatives (some maybe slightly better even) do exist. But again this has downsides: the whole point of having a small tank is kind of moot as you are now making it effectively take more room with the giant ass plant, and it doesn't even add to the aesthetics of the tank internally.

Even more exotic solutions exist once you go that route, like an algae scrubber, which is basically aquaponics focused entirely on green algae growing on a medium outside of the tank with intense light and water pumps to/from your tank. But again, larger footprint for no aesthetics and waaaaaay out of the scope of such a small tank.

>>2427133
>Tetras and guppy get stressed if they can't school.
Ironically if they're super unstressed (e.g. they're in a large, single species, heavily planted, tank) they stop schooling.

There's a few youtube examples of it. It's pretty cool as they start developing individual behavior. I'll try to find the particular video I'm thinking of. I think the guy put like 100+ of them in a 100G aquarium with no other fish.

>>2427015
Looks like I win again. I'm winning this war suo.

>>2427223
Oscars. Every nigger with a tank has to have one.

>>2427303
>suo
Dude, I'm the guy with the betta fish, you're just shitting the bed to everyone you're around and making enemies of people who didn't previously care. Discord/irc drama doesn't belong here and if you can't voice it there just let it go.

Guys, I got my Oscar last week, but I think I spooked him. When he can't see me, he swims around and acts like an Oscar should, but whenever he sees me he just swims behind the log and hides from me. He peeks out about once a minute, and then darts back in when he sees I'm still there.

Is there some way I can get him to stop being afraid? He isn't eating now because he just hides whenever I come near him.

>>2427223
Oscars they fucking suck

Although i had an Oscar nip my pleco and my pleco hit him so hard i thought the tank was gonna crack.

After that the Oscar stopped being a little shit.

>>2427305
Can confirm. My brother had em, I've had em, even my uncle has had em. I stick mostly to channel cats now.

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Is this a male or a female?

>>2427484
Non-binary

I just bought a moss ball and I cut it and laid it out.
I wrapped some around some driftwood and used the rest as carpet between rocks.
Will it grow nicely or will it just die?

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>>2427484
Looks female

>>2427531

Marimo is practically indestructible, it'll grow and even start to attach to stuff. To be honest though, it's kind of annoying and collects debris really fast, if you trim it with scissors then you'll get tons of it popping up in strange places throughout the tank. Real moss is way better imo, something like weeping moss.

>>2427541
Alright, thank you.

>>2427405
Don't be such a weirdo.

Also with enough time he'll associate you with food, so be patient.

>>2427738
Cranked up my c02 and algae is fading and plants are improving

>>2427124
What do you mean bored.
Just sounds like your a plantfag.

>>2426855
If you're gonna keep friends get a 10gal and put lots of decoration in it to curb aggression. The bigger the tank the better.

>>2427738
I clicked on your post to call you a fag for your background but it's actually good

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>>2427841
any ideas on what to plant in that middle empty area in the back?

gonna order 10 red cherry shrimp soon and start a colony in my 10g. since they'll easily reproduce, is it viable to sell them locally? aynone done this before?

>>2427846
echinodorus

very tall java fern

>>2427860
ehh i have a java fern on the right, anything more... unique? i'd like it as a center peice plant, something like a banana plant

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>he can see everything in his tank

lol

>>2427869
bolbitis heteroclita

>>2427869
or susswassertang

>>2427880
Go away meatball

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Why do my amano shrimp look so dark?

>>2426958
1.5 gallons is too small. Make it at least three gallons and 12 inches long and you can do annual killifish, if you want something more "exotic" than a betta.

>>2427699
How can he associate me with food when he's refusing to eat?

>>2427962
Certain kinds of algae, such as spirulina, contain pigments that bring out blue coloration in fish and shrimp.

>>2427248
That breed is the opposite of Hardy, or easy to keep and are fragile as hell. Don't recommend those.

Where should I buy my fish? Heard bad things about Petco and PetSmart...are online fish expensive?

>>2427989
>Heard bad things about Petco and PetSmart
do you believe everything you hear?

lfs>Petco/petsmart>Walmart>liveaquaria>internet

>>2427989
Depends on the individual store and the employees working there. Some pet chains are good and some family owned shops suck ass.
Go to whatever shops are around you and spend a while looking at the fish. If they're selling fish out of a tank with sick looking fish in it, or if there are any dead fish sitting in the tank, it's probably better to look elsewhere.

Fish process online aren't bad, but shipping costs will kill you. At least $35 for shipping that's fast enough to ensure they arrive alive, especially if you live somewhere hot.

>>2427995
>Fish process
*prices

Whoops.

I'd really like to get an aquarium but I can't find a good stand. They're all either over designed or too expensive.

I don't want one that has the aquarium built in I'd just like to my aquarium on a cabinet and two plants on the side.

Why is this so... hard to find?

Am I searching for the wrong thing?

>>2428129
Aquarium stands have to hold up hundreds of pounds, so you're not going to find something like a TV entertainment center.

I would suggest looking for one meant for a larger tank. E.g. if you want a 20g long, get one meant for a 40g. That'll give you space on the sides.

However it'll be expensive.

You can always go the diy route.

>>2427993
>lfs>Petco/petsmart>Walmart>liveaquaria>internet
Unfortunately even if this is true in your area, the selection at chains are usually really shit.

>>2428134
Any suggestions on where to search?

>>2427989
Online prices are usually the most competitive but shipping gouges you. And you can't see exactly what you're getting

>>2428137
This hobby was never meant to be satisfactory without a lot of DIY

>>2428134
Do you have the tank already?
If you really want a brand new stand for a good price you'll just have to keep an eye out for sales.
I got my 40 breeder stand from petco.com for about $80 because it was on sale and there was a "40% off any one item" coupon if you were new signing up for an account.
Recently PetSmart had a sale that was half off any stand with the purchase of any Top Fin kit 5.5 gallons or higher, so you could buy a $30 kit and get $80-120 off of a stand.
If you need/want a tank as well, PetSmart occasionally has some really good sales on their tank/stand combos.

If used isn't a deal breaker, keep an eye on classifieds websites like Craigslist.

>>2427303
Suo doesn't run the Discord. That's mystical.

I've got a dwarf gourami in a 20 gal atm by himself. What would be a good friend for him? I had some shrimp but he bullied them so I moved them to another tank.

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Hey /an/ what can I do to make my tank more aesthetic? Specifically the mostly empty right side. Not a lot of sand on that side so plants are probably a no go.

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Also does anyone know what kind of plant this is? I got it for free and have no idea what it is.

>>2428168
Considering shrimps are a Delicious snack for most fish...not shrimp
More gouramis

Otto catfish, corys, platys, rasboras, like 300 other types of fish.

Just no oscars or angel fish, they're dicks

>>2428210
Get some decorations that the fish can go inside, get coverage.

>>2428168
6 cories
10 small tetras (Neons, Glowlights, etc.)
Or replace the tetras with 6-8 cherry barbs (50/50 male to females for most display between males)

>>2428225
Maybe a big clay pot? Are clay pots safe for fish?

>>2428231
Yes, for the most part.

>>2428231
Yeah, if it's used clean it out with hot water and scrub it clean. Their really useful for hidey holes, got some in my tank and they love the pots I threw in.

>>2428222
>>2428229
thanks guys!

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I have a 110gal I am thinking of making into a crawfish specific tank. Thoughts?

>>2428259
Get some marbled blue crayfish.

Their all female, self replicating and will fill that fish tank to the brim if you let them. I had a 20 gallon tank I loved with them, had a big mama who was the godfather.

Pretty fun tank.

>>2426727
just accidentally released 4 fish down my sink and only saved one from the pea trap, ama

>>2428358
Whats it like being retarded?

>>2428361
feels bad

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>>2426727
I had some ram cichlids in My aquarium, But they all died.
I would like to know if I shoud replace them With another species.

Let's say I'm someone who can breed a couple of species of jellyfish (Aurelia aurita, Catostylus mosaicus and Cassiopeie sp.) how big do you think the market is for cheap reliable jellyfish? I could probably easily whip together a home aquarium husbandry guide too. Also, I'm a jellyfish breeder AMA

What's everyone's favorite freshwater fish?

I like albino Cory catfish

>>2428433
not big, jellyfish tanks are expensive so it would very niche.
Also, do you have any experience shipping live animals?

>>2428436
Convict Cichlid.
They're huge assholes, but they have some extremely interesting behaviours for a freshwater fish.

>>2428443
Kriesels are coming down in price and I can put one together for less than £50 using acrylic. I've shipped polyps, ephyrae and medusa multiple times.

>>2428436
Snakeskin Gourami!
They are gentle giants and mine eat right out of my hand.

Hey guys, new fishkeeper here. I have a 20gallon tank with some amazon sword plants, an ancistrus and a school of cardinal tetras. When I do water changes, should I use the gravel vacuum on the sand to suck up the shit, or should I just take water and leave the shit to fertilise my plants?

>>2428483
Short answer: suck up shit.

Your plants will have more than enough nutrients unless you are dosing CO2 and have intense lighting.

>>2428483
Really depends on just how much plants you have in there. If you have a TON of plants, get some MTS and other bottom dwellers to stir that shit up and your plants will clean you water real good. If not that many plants, suck the shit up.

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Got a new snail! Fish were super interested in it. Was worried the asshole sparkling gouramis would harassment it but they left it alone.

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Qt Honey Gourami

>>2427303
Jesus christ can you just kys

along with the faggot that keeps reeing about politics.

How many more fish can I add to a 20g long with 5 amano shrimp, 5 chilli Rasbora, 1 Scarlett badi, 3 sparkling gouramis, 2 dwarf Cory's, and 1 peacock gudgeon? Also 1 mystery snail and 1 nerite snail?
I've got water Sprite lining the entire back wall and several other plants as well. It's got a canister filter (sunshine 302) hooked up to it.
Wanted to add 6 more Cory's, 2 more gudgeons, and 2 more badis.
And either 8 more chillis or 6 celestial pearl danios.
I know it sounds like a lot, but they are pretty tiny fish.

>>2428841
AQ advisor could help there.

You may get away with a few more, but not the 16 more fish you want to add.

>>2428210
You need some wood or rocks for hardscape.. Jungle val, ludwigia repens, or elodea would utilize the height of the tank.

>>2428212
Front plant looks like some kind of sword, maybe E. cordifolius. Rear plant looks like Anubias barteri.

>>2428385
Bolivian rams are also very pretty and personable, and generally much hardier than Germans.

>>2428436
I really like my Bolivian rams and my pearl gourami. Honorable mention to Synodontis lucipinnis.

>>2428433
>how big do you think the market is for cheap reliable jellyfish?
small and rapidly shrinking
In the US at least it was mostly a fad market that people abandoned once they realized the tank requires work they can't train their maid or personal assistant to do for them.

>>2428846
What if I add a planted Sump? And leave off the Chili's and CPD? Just want these other fish to have ladies to chase around.

Someone redpill me on undergravel filters, I want to stock a 55 gallon tank with two fancy goldfish

>>2429001
Undergravel filters are obsolete. For something foolproof get an internal sponge filter, for something with huge capacity get a canister filter. Look at Juwel filters, they're easy to clean and don't look awful. You also can fit the heater inside them.

>>2429001
They clog easily and are difficult to maintain. You can put powerheads on the lift tubes so it is pushing water up through the gravel instead, and that makes a pretty decent filter.
Otherwise, canister filters like in >>2429013 is the way to go.

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>1.2 gallons
>no filter
>5 watt white light
>substrate is a mix of pot soil and JBL Manado
>one moss ball, cut in smaller pieces
>gonna put a couple of shrimps in there, probably RCS

r8, h8 & advice?

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Anyone else really surprised at how well fans work for cooling? Aquarium was constantly at 78-80° and since adding the fan it's at 71-73°.

>>2429021
looks like poopoo

>>2429021
Looks dirty and boring senpai

>>2429021
Looks ugly and dirty and I don't think you could keep RCS alive in such a small container with no filter. The hardscape looks good, but maybe try different plants. And a filter. Maybe an intact marimo moss ball instead with something like java moss, java fern, or maybe dwarf sag. All of which you'd need a half decent light to grow well, though.

>>2429014
My Sponge filters aren't any harder to maintain than my HOB. All you have to do is squeeze them out every now and then. Getting ones with more porous sponges also helps. Certainly for me, the tiny bit of extra maintenance they require is well worth saving 200$ on a canister
filter that'll do the same thing. Unless you have a really heavy load, that is.

>>2429223
>heavy load
Goldfish are pretty messy, otherwise I'd have certainly recommended sponge filters.
Then again, it does take them awhile to grow into giant shit machines.

>>2429106
>>2429165
It's brand new, of course the water is gonna look dirty at this point.
>>2429191
I'm gonna add a few more plants later on. I was initially looking into dwarf sagittaria too, but my local shop doesn't have any right now.
As for it being possible to house red cherries, I've seen many people successfully do it, with even worse situations ( like, less gallons, no lights, no plants etc). I think I can pull it off.

>>2429228
I've heard of plenty of people running sponge filters on goldfish tanks, so I think it'd work fine. Solid Gold aquatics on YT comes to mind; she's a fancy goldfish breeder and she runs sponge filters on all her tanks IIRC. (and she's also a total fucking QT)
Anyways, most people think they're horrendously ugly so anon will probably opt for a different filter. But sponge filters would certainly work and they're way cheaper than any other kind of filtration.

My mother, bless her senile heart, bought me a common pleco for the algae in my tank. Fine, whatever, I can just deal with it until it gets too big. Put the thing in my tank after QT and it COMPLETELY shits up my tank. I'm talking piles and piles of pleco shit all over the tank. It's only about 4" long, what the fuck? Is this just because I had a lot of algae, or are plecos all this dirty? I want to put him back in my tank, but i'm not vacuuming it twice a week.

>>2429021
small changes in temp are a lot for small amounts of water. it can get too warm faster than you can do something about it. just don't fucking douse it in something like a space heater haha

>>2429370
Please don't kill the pleco

>>2429370
they're shit factories. Worse than goldfish.

only redeeming factor is they also eat their own shit, so that helps a little.

>>2429381
Why would I kill it?

>>2429398
All plecos, or just common plecos? I did really want a clown pleco, but I think not after this experience. I'm mostly just shocked nobody's ever mentioned this about them before. Sure, I knew that they obviously don't really clean your tank at all, but this is ridiculous. I'd like to declare the common pleco Worst Fish in the hobby

What's a fish that's about as big as a betta, peaceful, and can live in a ten gallon?

That ISN'T a betta obviously kek

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Looking for a bit of shrimp advice.

I had some cherry shrimp in with my Betta. He ate them, or so I thought. I got three of the biggest amano shrimp the shop had on Friday. I haven't seen them since putting them in the tank. I mean they've flat out gone. They aren't in the plants, under the filter, in the rocks or in the Betta. The tank has a lid.

Two of the cherry shrimp have reappeared however and the Betta has either not noticed or made peace.

What is going on?

>>2429429
Gourami?

>>2429435
Shrimp are way better at hiding that you'd think possible.

Also, have you actually seen your betta be aggressive towards the shrimp?

>>2429437
There not peaceful I tried. And it's too hard to figure out which ones are males when all the ones in the store are still small.

Thank you for the suggestion though.

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I need an aquarium heater that can heat up to 20 gallons and that has a USB plug in, so that I can hook it up to a solar powered battery pack outside

>>2429468
How much power can your battery/panels provide and how many degrees do you need to heat your tank up by?

>>2429468
buy an adapter

>>2429429
cory cat

>>2429474
I'm not sure, I was hoping to find the heater first, then find an appropriate battery to power it.

Need it to be between 75-82, but preferably one of those heaters that just shuts off at 78 F.
>>2429477
Adapter? I'm not sure if that would work...I need it to be solar powered because I have no direct line to connect to the electricity in the house. Otherwise I would just run an extension cord. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean..

>>2429477
Do Cories get as big as bettas? I thought they didn't get that big...I mean, I would think a school of them, all getting to three inches, would be too much for a ten gallon...

>>2429479
This is sounding more and more ridiculous and terrible. Run an extension cord dude. Solar power is not that great. To get something powerful and reliable enough to power a heater, it would likely take about as much money as just hiring a licensed electrician to put in another outlet in your house (the benchmark being $250 per outlet).

The cheapo solar panels you see provide shit power, and batteries get expensive plus they need to be replaced every few years.

You're practically building a Rube Goldberg machine here.

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>>2429485
Becky

Please

>>2427484
i just bought 6 of these dank motherfuckers today. the pet store girl dropped one on the ground and i had to ever-so-delicately pinch his little tail to pick him up. it appears to have killed him. shit actually makes me sad. how long can they survive out of the water if they're wet? a few minutes, right? i could've gotten a piece of paper or something i guess....was panicking...

anyway, thoughts on gravel vacuuming for shrimp tanks? there's nothing else in there, so i figure i can probably just throw in one snail to aerate the substrate and not really have to vacuum anymore, just filter and change water

>>2429487
Not sure if you're referring to some meme I don't know or if you actually think I'm someone else, but seriously, that's just a bad idea.

How is your filtration powered? Split the power from that.

>>2429588
How do you know it wasn't killed on impact? Far more likely scenario unless you are truly hamfisted.

>>2429609
>How do you know it wasn't killed on impact? Far more likely scenario
no it's not. tiny things are typically not injured by falling owing to their low terminal velocity.

I know it wasn't killed on impact because i picked it up and it was fucking alive and then swam around. he just didn't make it...

>>2429610
It was likely stress then, not injury. Shrimp are notoriously susceptible to stress death. Did it lose color before dying? That's usually a key indicator. There was very likely nothing you could have done.

Also falling impact can actually hurt a lot inverts, especially shrimp. Something about their bodies not exactly suited to open air plus being weighted down with water plus their bodies just not being very muscular while having a soft-ish shell just makes them not very robust.

>>2429613
yeah i was giving some thought to it and shrimp really have awful, awful bodies for falling

oh well. You know, i got these because my fish keep dying, and i tell myself "i won't care if shrimp die" and now i'm pressing F for shrimp bro all night

I think it was one of my two females actually. fuck.

>>2429613
One of my amano shrimp once jumped from the tank to the ground, and was fine. He even crawled away to hide under the bench my tank is on. Went on to live for another year and a half.

>>2429675
one of my amano shrimp jumped out of the tank in the middle of the night, walked 14 feet across the bedroom, and died behind my bass amp. it took me a month to figure out where he had gone.

14 feet.

>buy cichlid pellets for my angelfish
>too hard, they just chew for a bit and then split them out
>sink to the bottom
>ancistrus ends up being the only one who eats them
He's fat now, but when the protein kicks in he's going to be swole. Get those gains, catfish!

>>2429429
Nothing cool. Get a bigger tank. I personally would not really keep any fish that aren't bettas in a 10g anyways. I'd suggest dwarf gouramis in a larger tank, though they lack the sassy personalities that bettas have. You'd need a school of cories, at least 6, so don't get them if you're not willing to do that. Dwarf puffers are a little out there but IMO they're the coolest thing you can put in a 10g that isn't bettas. They aren't peaceful, though.

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>>2429447
Just to prove me incompetent these little guys were out and about this morning.

I've seen the Betta have a go at a cherry shrimp, chasing it round the tank and generally harassing it so I assumed it was him causing the casualties.

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>none of the usually recommended fish food brands are sold in my country (Omega One and New Life Spectrum)
>only live food available are brine shrimp (except for those dry tetra bloodworms, which cost an arm and a leg for less than 100g)
How can I give the best diet possible for my fish (betta) if the brands sold here are ok at best (sera, hikari, tetra), and absolute inedible garbage at worst (vitafish, shulet)?

>>2429807
you.... order it online? that's a thing nowadays you know....

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Should I leave my shrimp molts in my tank or take them out, /aq/?

I know the shrimp are supposed to eat them to regain nutrients but sometimes they just lie around the tank for ages without getting eaten.

>>2429836
I have no idea but that's a very cool photo.

>>2426727
I need recommendations for plants to put in my 150g native species aquarium... I bought some shit from petsmart but they don't grow very fast. they do grow though. The tank is unheated and stays anywhere from 65 in the winter to ~72 in the summer. I have a couple bluegill/crappie/perch in there

>-parameters (ammonia, nitrate, nitrite, pH, GH, KH)
I don't know... the tank is cycled and has had fish in there for 6 months now. ammonia nitrate and nitrite are at normal levels i guess idk exact numbers. my water is city water and on the hard side. PH last i knew was between 7 and 8.

I don't have much natural sunlight hitting the tank. there are two LED lights over the top of it.

I have the plants in seachem flourite black substrate. This is about the extent of my knowledge on what the tank is like

anyways, can anyone suggest some plants that will grow well for me? If at all possible I'd like to replace all the fake plants with real ones

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>>2429866
Shrimp molts are like ghosts. Have another.

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>>2429021
>>2429245
Update.

>>2429942
BTW, there were two tiny snails hijacking the moss ball. I think they are Malaysian trumpet snails. I looked into them and they seem to cause no problems in general. I'll let them stay.

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Finally got a good shot of my Scarlett badi. Added even more caves so he can have more hidey homes away from the asshole sparkling Giants that harass him constantly.

>>2429951
Two will turn into a hundred, easily. But I personally like how mine eat up all the extra waste
First time AQ poster here. Does my tank appear to be ready for a cherry shrimp colony? The only fish in there is a baby glolight danio, and the tank is well cycled (5 years)

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>>2429973
He has gotten pretty good at avoiding them though.

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>>2429974
Forgot picture

>>2429976
Looks fine to me. Go ahead and start your colony, anon. The fish may predate on the shrimplets, but most will probably survive because of how much cover there is in your tank. Danios are also schooling fish, so you shouldn't have just one, but whatever.
Also, what filter are you running? HOBs may suck up shrimp if you don't cover the intake.

>>2429870
Sounds like you don't know enough to maintain the tank you have yet. Buy a test kit, join a planted tank forum, and actually do your research. Obviously, shit isn't going to go well with "well idk the numbers" and "some shit from petsmart" and "two random LEDs".

I'm starting my first tank by myself, little 10g tank, my brother said I need to fill the tank and set it up for 2 days before adding fish, is that correct?

>>2430031
No. You have to cycle it first, which will take over a month. Don't get fish until you understand the nitrogen cycle.

>>2430025
Well, there were originally two Danios, they bred, and the runt was the only baby one that survived. All of the schooling fish I've kept so far have bullied each other constantly, and since he's so small I figured it would kill him. So I'm keeping him alone until he's an adult.
Yeah, it's a HOB filter. I'll stick some moss on the intake as a safety measure for the shrimp.
Thanks Anon

>>2430031
>>2430032
lol or you can just buy a starter bacteria like api quickstart.

>>2430031
https://www.google.com/amp/m.wikihow.com/Set-Up-a-Freshwater-Aquarium%3Famp%3D1
Reading is a very important part of the hobby

>keep a community tank with some zebra danios
>every now and then move some danios into the oscar tank
So today I spotted some danio fry in the oscar tank. Damn these things are fertile.

>>2430041
>Little do you know the danio are adapting, breeding in secret
>One day the danio will eat their Oscar overseers.

>>2430041
>super horny
>also being hunted by an enormous predator
>have to make a hard choice
>flee
>or fuck
A fish's gotta' do what a fish's gotta do.

>>2430041
>>2430048
Danio male looks at danio female

>Remember when you said I had no chance unless the world ended?

>>2429410
if you want something for the algae in your tank, I'd recommend some siamese algae eaters. I have a few plecos in my pond and they eat the moss just fine. Plecos aren't meant for tanks imo, unless they're the fancy ones and you're willing to take care of them

>>2429870
buy some anacharis or hornwort. both should be fine in there.

>>2430028
autism at its finest. no matter what you think, it's not hard to keep fish alive dude even said there has been fish in there for 6 months.

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So I was buying plants for my 3gal shrimp tank, and the lfs guy accidentally gave me a guppy fry which I didn't notice until I got home. Fast forward a few months and the guppy has grown quite large. It seems fine but I'm worried that it's miserable because it has no other guppies to school with.

What should I do? I don't think I can fit more guppies into a 3gal. Is it fine by itself or should I get rid of it? Could I just give it back to the fish store?

>>2430082
flush it down the toilet. its a fish lol. or dont it's been fine for 3 months, he's probably doing just fine. just because you feel that he feels lonely doesnt make him lonely. i dont think fish have the capability to feel emotions

>>2430082
first thing you should understand is that guppies don't school, they shoal which is very different

you can have a male and a pair of females if you want while they're small but throw them in a bigger tank later. if you give it to the LFS there's a 99% chance it will go in the feeder tank, or if they're concerned it will track disease in then straight into a predator tank or sink drain

>>2430091
>>2430085
I don't have a bigger warm water tank to throw them in. All I have is this and a 50gal with goldfish.

I guess I'll just keep the guppy by itself. Thanks for the advice.

Hey guys, I have piranhas and a pleco, but I was wondering what other fish go together with these? I'm guessing something that also has an armor-like skin like the pleco, so what kind should I get?
Oh and how do you guys grow seeds for in the aquarium, do you just put it in a heated bucket with a lamp above it?

>>2430112
put an oscar in with them

>>2430118
Would that be alright? It seems like an Oscar would outgrow my piranhas(~7 - ~10cm) and hunt them, but I might be wrong as wikipedia states that it claim it's own territorium and just protects that.

>>2430139
pretty sure he was trolling... piranha will gang up on other fish if you neglect to feed them often enough. or if the other fish gets sick they will also gang up on it.

>>2430148
So does that mean I shouldn't put an oscar in or that I could put anything in, as long as they all get fed properly?

>>2430112
Seeds for what?????

>>2430158
I just bought some bags with 'aquarium plant seeds' and so far they aren't growing that well in my bucket heated by LEDs that also provide their light.
Just asking for the best way to grow seeds underwater I guess.

>>2430155
every tank is an individual

piranha are only opportunistic, a healthy oscar will probably be fine. they don't particularly want food that puts up a fight. they might gang up on it though, that's the best answer you're gonna get

>>2430163
wat

can't say without knowing what you've got. there are very few aquatic plants that seed and the vast majority propagate from rhizomes, bud, or bulbs

if it's in a bucket of water with a light I almost guarantee nothing will grow since you don't have gas exchange, flow, nitrates, minerals, or anything

>>2430168
Okay, thanks. Then I'll probably get an oscar as they seem pretty chill when not eating. Ganging up wont be an issue as there are (sadly) only 2 piranhas and I don't suspect the pleco of doing anything other than shitting everywhere.

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>>2430171
I'm sorry anon, got them from aliexpress as something cheap to grow, but it doesn't list any names. However, I do have this picture that was on the listing and maybe you could recognise them.
I was hoping to get something like the middle three and the bottom middle one.
Anything that works for every plant in general is appreciated, too.

>>2430172
I can attest to that. My oscar lives with two pairs of angelfish, and if anything he's the one at risk. If the angelfish bother him he'll swim at them to chase them off, but I've never seen him bite or even shove. The angels on the other hand won't hesitate to nip at each other or even him, when they're mating.

>>2430179
throw them away and buy plants
https://aquaticarts.com/collections/freshwater-plants

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>>2430180
Okay that's great, will look around for one in the coming days. Anything specific I should have before getting one?

>>2430186
Well gee, sorry anon, I know this isn't /diy/, but I'd rather not spend alot of money on rather normal plants.
I'd get something like a banana plant though, regardless of cost, but that's not what I need for now.

>>2430193
if you buy plants that arent going to grow youre just throwing your money away anyway lol
learn how to buy plants before being tricked into buying seeds like an idiot lol cya

>>2430193
i found the seller you bought from and theyre literally selling "moss seeds" LOL why would you buy from someone with 50% negative reviews

>>2430228
>>2430225
It's like 50 cents for 1000 seeds and even if half of them don't grow I wouldn't mind. It's just that the ones I have right now that are growing don't seem to grow as well as they should and that's what I wanted some advice on.

>>2430234
but u dont even know what plants are growing lol, thats a bad idea.

>>2430234
He sold you normal grass seeds or some shit like that, you idiot.

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>>2430048

>>2430244
>>2430249
Well as long as it grows and looks half decent I'm fine with it for now, but when I decide to redecorate my aquarium to look nice instead of making it comfortable to live in for the fish, I'll probably buy seeds from a reputable seller. Might even buy grown plants if I can find them somewhere cheap.

>>2430266
ur a fuckin idiot, are u trolling rn? u dont buy fucking plant seeds, how many times do we have to say it in this thread before you catch on

>>2430271
Not trolling, just retarded. I only just now found out why you guys were critisizing me so much on buying 'aquarium plant seeds' and I'm sorry for still being this stupid, but shouldn't it be fine even if it really is just grass?

>>2430274
Do you see much grass growing on the bottom of lakes?

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>>2430274
Grass won't fucking grow underwater you dumb dingus

>>2430274
u can buy underwater grasses but thats probably not one of them lol, just a scammer online..............................
https://www.amazon.com/Dwarf-Hairgrass-Aquarium-Plant-Aquatic/dp/B00JZYDPS6

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>>2430277
No I don't, guess I'll have to actually buy some actual plants then.

>>2430282
I guess not, lol.
Was thinking all a plant needed was oxygen, light and a way to 'feed' it and that it wouldn't matter if this was under or above water.


So I guess that brings me to my next question; what plant should I get that grows underwater, isn't too expensive and would be easy to fill my aquarium with.

>>2430284
are u trying to make a carpet or do u want stemmed plants or a matt?

>>2430284
Do you realize how much cool shit could be done with aquascaping if the world worked the way you think it does? I honestly don't fucking understand how you could not be aware of the fact that land plants don't grow underwater. You ever see roses growing in a koi pond?

Anyway, I'll stop mocking you and answer your question.
>Java fern
>Java moss
>Anubias species
All three are easy to grow, don't require specialized lighting and cover a tank quickly.

>>2430284
>what plant should I get that grows underwater, isn't too expensive and would be easy to fill my aquarium with
Anacharis. Get a few plants, cut them down to a decimetre each, and just stick them into the gravel. When they get tall enough, cut them off at the middle and stick the top in the gravel to create a new plant.

>>2430284
>>2430288
This. Stick to those plants. You're not mentally equipped to handle taking care of anything else, to be honest. Most of your ignorance is excusable, but seriously, who the fuck thinks you can just put any plant underwater? Where the fuck were you raised?

>>2430034
Buying starter bacteria doesn't circumvent the need to cycle an aquarium correctly. If you don't understand the nitrogen cycle and the need for a cycled tank, you should NOT own fish. Period.

>>2430286
A carpet would be nice, but I think my pleco will wreck it.

>>2430288
Yeah, sorry about that, should've realised sooner.

>>2430290
Oh thanks anon, actually had those in the past and had them growing all over, but forgot about them.

>>2430292
Guess you're right about that, but in my defense, I was referring to the more resilient plants. Though even then, I feel like a retard thinking about it now.

Anyway, thanks guys, for taking me seriously when all I did was be retarded and I suppose I should read a book about plants now or something, so that I won't mess up the plants you guys reccomended.

>>2430305
I don't have the attention span to check all your posts, but if you don't already, get a good quality LED light, preferably finnex brand if you've got loads of cash to shell out. Beamswork if you don't. Without a good light, you're unlikely to grow shit, even the hardiest plants.
I'd also recommend adding a liquid fertilizer like excel and using root tabs. This will help your plants a lot and would help you keep anything beyond java moss alive. By the way, don't bury the rhizome of java moss or anubias or it may rot.
Also, do not even bother trying to carpet shit without co2 injection. I've tried plenty of "no co2 needed" carpet plants and they all die, look awful, or take actual years to carpet. I don't think a pleco would ruin one, but it is impractical for your tank.

>>2430320
Okay thanks for the advice, don't have any decent growing lights, just the standard tl-tubes in my aquarium and a LED-strip I'm using temporarily as I don't get much sun.
Too bad the carpeting won't work without a lot of effort and/or money.

Also, most of my posts are about me thinking the €0,50/1000 seeds I got from China were legit and that grass and similair above water plants could grow underwater aswell.

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>>2426727
Hey /aq/ I have a slight problem.

I have a 60 gallon fresh water planted.

The air supply machine I have is really loud, even under the cabinet with closed doors.

And the airstone shooting out bubbles is loud as well - even if I disconnect one of the lines on the dual air supply.

All this humming is horrible for people who have to listen to my very delicate microphone that picks up everything.

I really just want a quiet tank/room, how do I achieve this?

>>2430338
I don't have this problem myself, so I can't say how well it works, but an easy solution should be putting it inside of a box filled with sand. Do keep in mind to provide a clear path for air to come in.

>>2430342
I don't think that will work for me.

The airstone itself shooting out bubbles makes half of the humming noise.

How 2 buy a Betta without supporting the Betta torture industry? Where is a responsible source for Bettas?

>>2430389
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEqns2C5eQR4PZfQvqn7tOQ

She's getting ready to sell her first batch very soon, and they're pretty fucking nice as they are spawned from some top tier koi betta. You can see how she raises the bettas as she posts weekly videos of them.

>>2430360

>>2430338
Yeah, I just jumped on the sponge filter bandwagon as I'm setting up another tank for shrimp and holy shit I had forgotten how annoying air pumps are.

Keep us posted if you find a good solution.

>>2430328
Dude's Finnex suggestion is pretty much your quality-tier go-to solution if you got some cash. There are some crazy expensive options above that but generally Finnex is considered great for the vast majority of people.

Beamswork is also popular among super budget people. I and a few others here have had great success with Green Element EVO (their 3W LED series is pretty fucking intense).

>>2429429
They aren't as big as you are wanting, but you could keep a pair of dwarf/pea pufferfish in a ten gallon tank.

>>2430104
He's fine if he's not showing any signs of stress. People WAAAAY over exaggerate the need for some microfish to shoal. Under a lot of very low stress situations, these shoaling or even schooling fish will stop shoaling/schooling naturally even if there's 100 others in the tank with them. There's lots of youtube examples of this where people have a species tank of cardinals or neons with dozens or hundreds and very few, if any, school.

>>2430431
I'm pretty tight on money right now, so maybe the finnex planted+ as that is only $40 more than the one you recommended at $130 and has some nice features, but not the more expensive stuff.
Anyway, how bright is the lunar mode on the Green Element Evo? I've got the aquarium standing not too far from my bed and don't want to hang curtains or something.

>>2430470
>Anyway, how bright is the lunar mode on the Green Element Evo?
To human eyes it's not that bright, but the PAR it puts out is stupid and will cause algae blooms at full power.

THis is for the 3W LED versions. The 1 and 1.5W LED versions will differ significantly.

100% of us that have the 3W LED versions use a dimmer. I may convert this tank to a CO2 dosed tank and put it back up to 100% though.

Cory over on Aquarium Co-Op has a really good review on a whole slew of lights including Finnex, Beamworks, and Green Element. He uses an actual PAR meter.

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>>2430338
bumping this question

Do I even need an air supply for the fish?

Or am I just looking for water agitation?

Because I have an under water propeller thing that pushes the water around, not sure if that would work in place of air supply.

Has anyone tried putting freshwater clams in their aquarium?

Was considering throwing 1 or 2 into my 10 gallon.

>>2430590
All you need is the surface agitation. Bubbles are good for that because they spread out. In my 100 gallon tank I have my filter outflow pointed upwards at an angle to agitate that half of the tank, and a powerhead on the other side. It creates a current my river fish like, but more importantly it agitates around half the surface of the water. I've never had oxygen problems, even before I got the powerhead.

>>2430294
Pretty much does tho.

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>>2430594
Thank you so much!

I uninstalled my air supply and installed the circulator.

I'm now hearing my computer hum for the first time in at least half a year!

I can't believe I put up with that humming for so long!

And the fish really seem to be enjoying the fast current.

>>2430634
Just make sure the tank also has some areas with still water. If the fish can't find some place to relax they'll get stressed.

Anyone ever try housing Betta with emperor tetra?

>>2430913
I had my betta with neon tetra and they got along just fine.

I woke up this morning to find 3 clutches of (presumably) snail eggs. How can I guarantee their survival?

>>2430935
Whatr type of snail? In general you'll want to eep fish away from them.

>>2430952
I have 1 mystery snail and 2 pond snails, so I am going to assume it is from the pond snail.

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>>2430958
I'm just going to put one of these over the plant with the egg clutches and see what happens.

>>2430958
>>2430976
Yeah, just make sure the eggs are left alone and they should hatch on their own.

>>2430980
I can't wait for them to hatch and get big! After that, I'm going to get some assassin snails.

What makes plecos so cute?

>>2430997
Their teardrop shape.

Hey I'm gonna stock a heavily planted 36g with shrimp snails cories tetras and maybe women hatchetfish, is there any kind of centerpiece fish i could Put in that won't eat the shrimps and snails?

& what site do you guys buy plants from my lfs has nothing

>>2429429
>Livebearers
Molly, platy, swordtail
>Gourami
Licorice, sparkling, honey, dwarf, Betta albimarginata (technically a betta, but it doesn't look like one)
>Killifish
Fundulopanchax and Nothobranchius species, many others (most annuals)
>Other
Scarlet badis, peacock gudgeon

>>2429588
I've found it's actually easier and less stressful to shrimp to simply pick them up by the base of their antennae.
They can survive until their gills dry out. Between several minutes and a couple hours.

If you have a lot of plants, you don't need to vacuum. Otherwise just do it slowly and carefully, and use something that doesn't have any kind of catch in it so that if you do accidentally suck up a shrimp, it just passes through into the bucket and you can net it out afterward. I like using a piece of airline tubing with a drinking straw attached to the end.

>>2429807
Buy a grindal worm culture on eBay. You'll have high quality live food forever and the only running cost is a bit of oatmeal and yeast when you propagate or transfer the culture.
Daphnia, fruit flies, and vinegar eels are other options, but they're more difficult to keep a running culture of.

>>2429836
leave them in for 2-3 days, then take them out. If the shrimp haven't eaten them by then there's a chance that small fleshy bits stuck to the exoskeleton will start to rot in the water (though if it's a larger tank it'll have a negligible effect).

>>2430592
Don't waste your time with them. Just get snails or shrimp instead.

>>2430997
Their prehistoric survival instincts coupled with those gosh darn whiskers.

>>2430913
It's probably fine, but's going to depend on the Betta. Emperor tetras are peaceful and shouldn't give him much trouble, but they have longer trailing fins than more commonly kept tetras like glowlights or neons, and there's no way to be 100% sure whether or not the Betta will try nipping at them.
So go ahead and try it if you want them, but have a backup plan just in case.

>>2431007
>women hatchetfish
No men? That's lame.

If you're doing larger shrimp like amano, I'm keeping some pearl gourami and Bolivian rams with mine without issue.
If you want cherry shrimp you'll just have to provide a lot of cover so they can hide well, as even the tetras could eat young ones.

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>>2429021
>>2429942
Looks like the peanut butter jar I keep on my kitchen windowsill and stuff spare plants into (I moved it to take the picture).

1.5 gallons is large enough to keep a few cherry shrimp without much issue, but they'll almost certainly never breed. Also, that container is rather tall, which means it's more at risk of low oxygen levels, especially in the lower regions. I'd definitely suggest some faster-growing plants like najas or hornwort, and some floating or emersed plants. You could hang a small hydroponics pot into the tank with some foam in it and plant a pothos or Spathiphyllum in it.

>>2429951
MTS can clone themselves and give live birth, so they can propagate very, very quickly. I try to keep them out of small containers for that reason. A single, young ramshorn or pond snail would be better IMO. Single and young because they're hermaphroditic and any two can impregnate each other, and they can lay multiple egg sacs after a single mating.
A small nerite might work, but you'd have to worry about it climbing out of the container.

>>2430913
Yes, I had six emporer tetras with a betta once upon a time
Now post your emporer tetras

I need to euthanize a bucket of fish.

Most of them have already died.

Please don't moral me. The LFS won't take them. Rebbit won't take them. I don't have a tank for them anymore. They're in a 5 gallon bucket and they've all been dying slowly for a couple months now.

I need to just end all of their lives in one fell swoop, if not quickly and/or painlessly.

It's neon tetra and a few dwarf cory. I'm surprised they lasted this long at all to be honest.

I don't even have a count of how many are left. Please tell me what I can dump in the bucket that will end their collective misery.

I'm sorry and I will own have fish again.

>>2431067
Clove Oil. Or stick them in smaller containers and pop them in a freezer.

>>2431067
>I'm sorry and I will own have fish again.
I could have sworn I typed "I will never own fish again". Anyway, may god have mercy on my soul.

>>2431067
>Please don't moral me
you should stick your head in that bucket

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What's wrong with this snail? I bought him since he looked desperate

>>2431084
It already smells pretty foul because there's like five neon tetra corpses floating on the surface.

>>2431088
you obviously dont give two shits about the fish
just flush them and never come back to this thread

>>2431090
I give at least two shits or I would have flushed their living bodies down the toilet already instead of trying to give them away.

But yes to be fair they didn't rank that highly on my priority list or they wouldn't be dead.

>>2431094
>boil water
>add 2 cups salt
>drop in bucket
>give a good stir
>flush
maybe that will kill them

>>2431086
Low calcium in his past? Looks like he used to have trouble with his shell but doesn't anymore.

>>2431067
Freeze them or clove oil.
Sounds like you should stay away from keeping pets that have a a brain and/or a nervous system in general. Get a tamogatchi. Leaving a dog to die in a shed over a period of months will look much, much worse for you when you get arrested for it.

>>2431029
Why does your peanut butter jar look better than my entire tank?

>>2431021
Thanks anon, I'll look into grindal worms.
Would you guys recommend dubia roach nymphs or other insects? Figured it could feel more natural to the betta to catch a moving bug and be recreational for it

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>>2426727
I picked up a dozen kuhlis today and for the past 7 hours they've done nothing but swim in circles against the class in a big group. None of them stop to rest for more than a few moments. They've been doing it in the same spot since I put them in the tank. It's getting maddening to watch. Is this normal and will they chill the fuck out eventually?

>>2431187
Yes, they are doing two things
A. Swimming with their new buddies (Their own reflections)
B. Discovering the invisible boundries of their new home

>>2431187
Those things do two things
They hide
They have giant wrestling orgies

They're fun to watch

Just killed all of my shrimp with ivermectin while trying to kill off my infestation of planaria. Planaria didnt even die but now I think I just might

Not going to go out immediately to buy more shrimp but when I do I think i'll either go with Blue Jellies or a shitton of Opae Ula

>>2431187
they react to changes in weather by dancing around the tank like idiots. They'll do it whenever it's about to rain near you or an earthquake is about to hit

If you dont have a hide for them, they may be stressed out by your light. Turn it off and they'll chill a bit

>>2431177
Sorry, I simply don't put neon tetra in the same category as dogs. I could go into the whys, such as the absence of a cerebral cortex in the former, but I feel like it should be fairly obvious why the two aren't really comparable. But thanks anyway for being a bleeding heart faggot.

>>2431086
It was previously kept in acidic water that dissolved its shell.

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>>2431179
Lol, thanks.
Small container means less plants to make it look full.

>>2431184
I assume dubia nymphs are really soft? They should be fine, but I imagine they'll grow too big for the betta really quickly. It's convenient if you also have a lizard or something, though.
Worms wiggle a lot as they fall through the water. Fish are usually very strongly attracted to them.

>>2431236
Just woke up. It's four AM and it's been totally dark in my room for at least 6 hours. Turned on a light and these fuckers are STILL at it. Holy shit. No dent in their activity level at all. There's now a noticeable hole in the sand where they're doing it.
They have some stuff to hide in, but I guess not enough. I'll work on getting them something that they can wiggle into.
>>2431221
I'm really ready to observe the "hiding" part of their personalities right about now.
>>2431211
I noticed they weren't doing it at the store, and I did just realize that the tanks were much less reflective because of the way they're set up. I guess they're just having a wild party with their new homies.

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>>2431039

>>2431605
Nice
The Emperor Tetras were probably the best fish I've ever kept. It was painful watching them die one by one from neurological parasite. Good times.

>>2431647
they're v nice and interactive but i actually got them by accident and ended up setting up a second tank for them. they're also really dumb though, like they would swim into my net while i was moving them out of my tank

>>2431367
An update: Their wiggly orgy has not slowed down in the slightest. My betta has taken measures to try to shut the party down, but to no avail. The wiggling continues.

>>2431670
post video

i have a freshly cycled 20 gallon tank with live plants that's never had fish in it before. what would you guys recommend to start it out with? keep in mind i'm a total beginner and it's a freshwater tank. i was thinking of just getting a small school of 8-10 neon tetras, do you think that would be good?

>tfw you feed your guppy a freshly slapped mosquito
>"now some of me is inside you"

>>2431821
Long or tall? You could put more than twice that many neons in there if that is the only kind of fish that you want in there. I prefer rummy nose tetras myself, but a big school of neons in a planted tank is a really beautiful sight.

If you want things to go with the neons, you could go with 10 neons, a dwarf gourami, (Great centerpiece fish for smaller tanks and has lots of color morphs!) And maybe 6-8 otos. You could probably throw in a mystery snail in there too. They are actually really nice to have around.

You could replace the dwarf gourami with a betta or maybe a paradise fish. You could also switch the otos with 6 smaller Cory cats (peppered, jullie, panda, etc. Just not the aeneus aka bronze or albino Cory) or a group of ghost shrimp or maybe a large swarm of cherry shrimp. (Cherry shrimp only if your tank has lots of places to hide) Cool thing about cherry shrimp is that they will breed in the tank so as long as they can hide, you should never run out of them.

>>2426727
Can anyone recommend me a light fixture? I have an aqueon 36 gallon bow front so preferably a light that I can put over the glass panel already there but if i have to change hoods thats okay too. Looking for a high light solution for my plants, preferably with a timer && or nightmode?

The aquarium has a length of 30

>>2431821
Neon tetras can be really iffy. They're highly susceptible to stress death from being moved around or from unstable water parameters. If you want to go that route, I'd say familiarize yourself with your LFS's guarantee policy.
Glowlight and black neon tetras are easier to deal with. Zebra danios, white cloud mountain minnows, and harlequin rasboras are also very hardy and easy to take care of, and IMO they're quite a lot more entertaining than neons. Celestial pearl danios and emerald dwarf rasboras are some very, very nice nano fish that can be either very hardy or incredibly delicate, depending on where they were sourced from and how they were raised.

Starting with 8-10 small, mid-dwelling fish and working your way up from there is a good way to start. It's good to give 3-7 days between adding groups of fish, but not completely necessary as long as you keep good track of the water parameters. It's also very useful to have a quarantine tank for newly purchased fish.

I'd suggest eventually getting a group of bottom dwelling fish like dwarf cories or khuli loaches. Otocinclus are also very nice, but they have trouble adjusting to new tanks. Peacock gudgeons are easy and make interesting oddball fish for the bottom level.

If you'd like a centerpiece fish, Bolivian rams are peaceful and easy. Swordtails are kind of considered plebian here, but they come in a lot of very nice colors (I really like the tricolor koi ones), and they're very hardy fish. You probably want just one or two males, to avoid being overrun with babies. Several small gourami would also be good for the mid-level, such as dwarf, sparkling, and honey gourami.

>>2431907
The Finnex fixtures are very nice, but expensive. I haven't looked at Odyssea fixtures in a while, but they used to have really affordable T5HO fixtures, granted the ballasts weren't the most reliable things. I currently have the "Quad" version of the Beamswork LED fixture with 1W LEDs and I'm very happy with it.

>>2431920
thank u!! checking out the lights

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How many cherry barbs can be kept in 30g? Alongside 8 panda cories.
Currently i have 10 in the tank.

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How do i get my freaking cherry shrimp to breed more. I've got like 20 in a 20 gallon hex with some trumpet snails I've had for like 2 years now but the bastards never increase in number, what the hell do I have to do to have a bunch of them? I'd like at least double that amount.

My water temp is like 82 and I've tried feeding them hikari shrimp cuisine and new life spectrum small fish food and it makes no difference. The tank is planted with a bunch of crypticorns and some anubias nana plus 2 small rocks.

>>2429836
leave them so they dissolve in the water

>>2432048
post kh and gh along with ph
are you sure you dont have 20 of one gender anon

>>2432048
Your snails are eating the eggs.

>>2432189
Shrimp don't lay eggs.

>>2432233
Cherry shrimp lay eggs. And the shrimp that don't "lay eggs" are ovoviviparous.

>>2432048

You should measure your water hardness. Cherry shrimp like harder waters, otherwise they tend to have problems moulting as they get older.

>>2432263
>Cherry shrimp lay eggs.
No they don't. They carry them on their pleopods until they hatch. The snails sure as hell aren't eating the eggs out from under the shrimp's tail.

>>2432326
sneaky snails with ranks in pickpocketing

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I gave my shrimp an algae wafer and my fucking guppy ate about 80% of it and now its belly is swollen to twice its usual size.

How do I stop this from happening again?

>>2432392
Flush the guppy?

>>2432420
I don't want to, I feel affection for it.

>>2432423
>feeling affection for an animal

>>2432468
>feeling affection at all

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>>2432472
>feeling at all

>>2432392
Trap the guppy in a net when you feed the shrimp or feed zucchini instead of wafers.

I'm trying to get dwarf hairgrass to carpet and I've seen people say that trimming it makes it spread out more, but how big of a difference does that make? I've had it in my tank for maybe a month or two and it doesn't seem to have grown much. Is trimming it the key to success and how low should it be trimmed? I don't want to kill it.

>>2432482
If you dont trim it it will only grow up

>>2432504
That said I can't get mine to spread out either. Im thikning i might need to upgrade my lighting... but everyone says its a low to moderate plant

When you're testing the water for hardness, are the "neutralized minerals" included in the count? If so, how much will it affect my tank? Thanks.

>>2432536
depends on the test and the minerals. There are many types of each.

hardness doesn't matter for most tanks. It really only matters if you're raising tons of inverts with shells.

>>2432553
Oh ok, thanks.

>>2432509
They are a moderate to high light plant.

>>2431235
update

so it turns out not ALL of my shrimp died. Just the cherry shrimp. All of my Ghost shrimp tanked the ivermectin. SO did the FUCKING PLANARIA.

I didnt realize cherries were so sensitive its ridiculous

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>>2431235
>>2432692
Fenbendazole works very well at killing planaria without affecting shrimp. You can use 0.1 grams per 10 gallons of Safeguard canine dewormer.

>>2432480
I've been feeding zucchini for months before I got the wafers. But then people told me that shrimp need protein and won't be healthy unless I get wafers with protein.

>>2433172
They do need protein. Zucchini itself actually does have a small amount, but you can just feed them bloodworms or regular sinking fish pellets for additional protein.

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Any suggestions on how I should rearrange my plants? Tried Java moss as a carpet but am pretty unhappy with it.

>>2434165
Java moss kinda sucks compared to say, phoenix or flame moss.

Any species of Marsilea looks great when it spreads and is easy to keep. Go with M. crenata or minuta for ezmode glosso-like carpet, or M. quadrifolia for larger sometimes 4-lobed leaves.

Scoot the small plants together forming a nice cluster instead of having odds and ends strewn about. Pockets of bare substrate at the front of the tank can balance out and enhance the look of the greenery behind them.

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I have a 30 gallon with a few live plants, two Columbian tetras, two clown loaches, and a crayfish. What else can I put in there? preferably something that would get along with the Columbian tetras.

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>>2434497
>two clown loaches

bruh

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>>2434192
Removed the Java moss and wrapped it around the spray bar. Moved the small red plants to the right and some in front of caves on left. I'm thinking of getting marselia hirsuta. Also removed the water Sprite and placed it in a separate container so the roots can grow out some. They are too small and won't stay anchored, just going everywhere and making a mess. I'll move them back in and place them behind the spray bar I've they've grown out a bit. Got some plants at Petco from the sale they're having. Not sure if they're even aquatic though. Worried about that fern on the left and that tall green stem plant on the right.