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I couldn't find a birb general to post but I wanted to share this anyway.

My parents have just finished turning their garden sun seat into an aviary for their 2 budgies, because they said it was cruel to keep them in a cage as the younger one was always trying to fly.

Thought it looked pretty good.
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This one is like... Bastard old. 10 years? All his other budgie buddies have passed so my parents got him a friend. Now they have he aviary they're thinking of buying a couple more.
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>>2373626
This is his younger friend
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And this is doggo enjoying the sun in front of the cage
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Which bird is the coolest and why is it the hill mynah?
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>>2373713
that's a weird way to spell secretary bird
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>>2373862
Can your bird even imitate stuff? Step up
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>>2373887
Mimicry is the most overrated bird ability
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>>2373625
>>2373626
>>2373630
>>2373632
>>2373633
looks nice, i'm sure they appreciate the extra space
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My cockatiel finally likes the family to the point he flies to find us if we all leave the room. Basically teaching him the house by hiding in different rooms, he finds us, then we plop him in the cage after long enough.
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>>2373625
hey can anyone id this bird?
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>>2373633
comfy as fuck bruh
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When should I help my tiel with pin feathers on his head? Looks like he stopped molting recently.
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Assortment of finches. Couple of fledglings in the bottom row
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>/tg/ kinda guy
>there's a little birb who nests above the comic store and screams at anyone who parks there
>find out he's a chickadee and screaming at threats is a major part of their life
Bird watching is neat.
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>>2374279
It's a finch but I'm not digging further, sorry.
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>>2374279
Western teenager
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>hates when I'm not in the room with him
>spends all his time and energy into trying to get my attention
>doens't want to play with toys, nor reacts to anything interesting in the room
>doesn't give a fuck about tricks, and overall won't do shit unless you give him seeds
>while I'm out he destroys everything in the room
>can't keep him caged because he refuses to go into the cage or get handled
>still wants to be with me every day, all the time and won't shut up if we're not in the same room

I don't know what to do with him. Help.
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>>2373633
>full belly, sunbathing, perfect spot in the soft grass, birds chirping nearby
What a life.
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>>2377739
get a cat for him to play with :^)
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>>2377739
get another one for him to hang out with
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>>2377739
give him head scritches
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>>2377982
Actually, this is the second one that I got to make to the first one, but he doesn't give a fuck about his mate.

>>2377997
Doesn't like them.
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>>2377739
Get bitter apple spray, it's used to keep dogs from chewing on shit and apparently works just as well for birds
Determine what he likes to chew on the most, if it's wires make him a toy that's similar, spray what you want to keep with the spray, and leave the toy that's ok to chew on nearby and I imagine he'll get the picture
To get him more accepting of going in his cage, don't give him his regular food anywhere outside of the cage, you don't even necessarily have to close him in, just make him ok with being in there and go from there
Look up stick and/or clicker training and give it a shot, even just for simple things like stepping up
If you don't have any, get some fibrous toys that he can really tear up (hanging stuff, woven mats, whatever)
I have a patch of artificial grass made for an indoor dog potty, and I sprinkle seeds/pellets in it and my cockatiel loves to root through it (It stays outside of his cage though)
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>>2378081
>Get bitter apple spray
Tried that, didn't work at all.

>Determine what he likes to chew on the most, if it's wires make him a toy that's similar
I actually got a few wires for him to avoid things like the pic above, but apparently if they're not connected to my PC they're just not good enough for him, because he doesn't even look at them.

>don't give him his regular food anywhere outside of the cage
His regular food is and has always been inside the cage. He goes in, eats and quickly flies away upon finishing or if he sees me getting close to the cage. Actually, there's some treats I keep to give him only inside the cage and is the only way for me to get him inside of it long enough to close it.

>Look up stick and/or clicker training and give it a shot
Yeah, I didn't explain myself properly before: he has learned some tricks. I can ask him to go to different places in the room, make him "beg" for a treat with his leg or by chirping, and he knows his name and comes when called. He learned all of those really fucking quickly. The problem is, if he doesn't see the treats already in my hand, he just won't do any of those things, even though he absolutely knows what to do.

>If you don't have any, get some fibrous toys that he can really tear up
He has ropes, bells, ladders, bridges, branches and a ball. I change their location every two weeks or so because I was told this helps keep the bird entertained. He simply refuses to play with them 90% of the time.

Thanks for the tips, though.
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>>2378093
Damn, that's nuts
Can't come up with any other suggestions, though it might be worth saying that I never see my cockatiel play with his toys either, but he'll get after them if he thinks there's no one around
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>>2377739
>>2378093
He might view you as his mate. That's not a good or healthy thing for birbs and a lot of people don't see the signs of a bird trying to court them and instead, accidentally encourage it. I'm not sure about breaking that habit once they already view you as a mate though.

Try getting another bird.
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>>2373625

Yup, better than a small cage but still basically a cage.
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Just put some money down on a newborn cockatiel at the shop today bois. Just born yesterday. They're gonna hand feed him/her until he/she's ready to be taken home.
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My lovebird Hobbs died. She had an egg stuck in her. I had no idea she was trying to lay because we've had this female pair of lovebirds for four years and they never laid. They still mount each other despite being females(vet confirmed ). She was acting completely normal yesterday and last night, even flying around and sitting on me but I found her dead today with a half laid egg.
RIP Hobbs, you silly one legged birb.

Now I have a lone lovebird. Is it easy to introduce her to a new lovebird? They were my first and I know they can bully other birds, I'm just not sure how well she will take to a new one.
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>>2379176

I'm guessing it'd be like introducing any other bird to a new companion. Separate cages for a time, keep them close by, let them interact on neutral ground, see how they react to one another.
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>>2379162
Nice, are you planning to visit a few times before taking it home? I feel like my doing that for my cockatiel really helped him get attached to me so quickly
In other news, I gave bitter apple spray a try to see if it would keep him from trying to remove the moles on my neck

The good news is he doesn't seem to like the taste
Unfortunately, he feels as though anything that tastes bad must be destroyed
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>>2379688

Oh yeah, I'll probably visit him at least once a week, maybe more often than that. Also, are you sure he's a he?

The smokey coloring makes it look more like a she.
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>>2379748
Very sure, DNA sexed as male and this conversation comes up a lot
The breeder said he's a pied coloration and males and females look almost identical for that mutation
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Are your birds cuddly?

I'm considering a bird companion (once I get my shit together) and would like a friendly pet.

Cuddly toucan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTjiPgSuCDg
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>>2373633
Is this in australia?
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>>2377739
who's mans is this?
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>>2377739
Your details are rough but >>2378232 is probably right. He sees you as a potential mate and is trying to get you to fuck him and lay his eggs. Getting another bird is probably the fastest way to stop this. Without someone else to keep him occupied he's just going to keep trying to court you, and will only get more and more frustrated with it.
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>>2379952
The only cuddly pet birds are pair bonded pet birds. Birds show affection primarily to their mates. One in a mated pair may let you stroke it a bit without biting but there's a reason why you see all of these cuddly bird youtube videos as single birds... who tend to have a habit of preening their owner's face. Most bird owners don't realize their pet making calls to them and trying to snuggle into their chest, trying to preen them is their way of saying they want sum fuk. The owner in that video is encouraging it by stroking the toucan's spine. That channel has never shown another toucan with that bird, who was a rescue from a zoo.

Mated birds do not make particularly affectionate pets. Even U2s in a pair bond will not try to cuddle you like people want from U2s. That is mating behavior, and the fact that people don't realize this before getting into bird ownership means they're slated for a course that ends with them married to a bird (that very well may outlive them). Bird pair bonds are a pain in the ass to break once they're established, ESPECIALLY with the higher parrot species like cockatoos and macaws who tend to form very strong pair bonds for life. I see it all of the time in old single captive parrots. They like ONE person, and despise literally everyone else they interact with. To that one person, they will lavish all their attention and love and everyone else gets ignored or bit. Well, guess what? That's what pair bonding is. Birds aren't very social to random members of the flock. They're social with their mate. Any attempt to pet, stroke, or cuddle a bird will be seen as allopreening behavior by them... and if they're in isolation from other members of their species, humans are the next best thing. Your options are:

>never interacting with your bird beyond replacing food/water
>buying a mate and dealing with eggs like every other month (and don't forget the calcium supp)
>having a qt bird girlfriend for life
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>>2376542
What did you say about me you
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>>2379952
My old beeb was extremely social and cuddly, he would drop cheerios on people if they sat near his cage. Ended up claiming my mom as his waifu which caused behavioral problems.
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>>2381344
>having a qt bird girlfriend for life
Is that okay for the bird?
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What's a good entry level bird? I was thinking about getting a budgie.
also how do you keep birds in general from just shitting all over your house, are they litter trainable?
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i need some help
I bought two cockatiels from local breeders, just an old grandma and grandpa, and within a couple of weeks they both died. I contacted them and they said they had no clue. Up until they died, they were playful, eating fine. Got a quaker from them afterwards, and the same thing happened.

I have two lovebirds, and they're perfect, no health issues whatsoever. They were next to eachother in the living room, no non-stick cookware or any fabric cleaners. Is this potentially something from the breeders, or does it sound like I made some form of mistake?
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Going to get a couple of canaries any tips?
Theyre from a breeder and are very healthy
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>>2382086
If you want the healthiest bird the best option is setting it in a sizable flock in a large outdoor aviary. The bigger the better.
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>>2377739
If he's a natural ground forager, then change the way you're feeding him. Parrots spend most of their waking hours looking for food and eating, and when we provide their food all at once in one convenient location, we're denying them the ability to work off their energy, explore, and use their brains the way they evolved to do so in the wild.

Think of ways you can more closely replicate the hunting and foraging activities they use to get food in the wild. For ground foragers that eat a lot of seed, mix their daily ration in a box with a bunch of cut up paper, or cotton towels, or whatever, and give them the opportunity to forage through all that stuff to find their seed. Think of ways you can hide high payoff foods that will give him the opportunity to use his brain to figure out how to get them, like making him pull something to release it, or pull out a twig or something.

The bottom line is that most behavioral problems take place largely due to boredom. These are smart animals, and if they aren't given something constructive to do by us, then they'll find something to do on their own...which we might not like.
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>>2382089


Were they fully weaned ? It's possible that they can regress after being weaned. Did you notice any change in their eating habits/ weight ?
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>>2382468
That's what I was thinking as well. With my love birds, the little fat asses eat all day, but with the quaker I was still giving him "comfort feedings" of formula once a day
not buying any more birds from mom and pop breeders
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>>2382233
>>Flock in a massive outdoor aviary
>Hardmode caretaking.
>Larger pop means more bird deaths to break your heart.
>More worries about parasites and predation.
Rating: 24/7 cuddle cucking

>>Single wiafu bird
>Easy to care for.
>Have a pleasantly demanding little cuddle creature.
>Probably less cute when your feather skeleton tries to get sum fuk with your hand
Rating: That weird guy that likes birds, a lot.
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>>2382369
Your post reminded me that I had a bird that autistically sorted his seeds into yellow ones and brown ones before eating, and carefully lined up all the brightly coloured seeds on the edge of the container without eating them.
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sup guys,

i had 2 budgies for 5 months. one of them died a few days ago because of an illness (r.i.p.). today i got a new one (pic related). my concern is that my ill bird was in this exact position just before he got ill.
so is this one ill too?
i'm a bit worried
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Do people here do birdwatching/'birding' or is it more about pet birbs?

I bought some binoculars recently and have been sitting on the back porch watching them. It's quite relaxing but I really can't tell one from the other other than the hordes of robins/pigeons/blackbirds. How does one go about identifying wild birds?
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>>2383197
I do birding. I do it to take pictures of them, I love bird photography.

I bought a book about all the birds native to my state and I've made it a goal to photograph all of them, or at least as many as I can.
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>>2383212

I live in Montana just outside a large city. I've seen a few blue jays around and it has made me really want to see more but they hardly come around. I've only seen about two. Is there any particular way to attract them?
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I've wanted for a some years now to try and keep a couple of birbs and now my uncle is going to give me two of his finches. I've already done some research and he's going to give me some more advice when I go to pick them up, but I have some questions.
I don't want to breed and I've asked him for two males, but he says that's probably not a good idea. If I do get a male and a female, and remove her eggs when she lays, will that give her behavior problems, or worse, ovary illness?
Also, I trust my uncle, but will two lone males really fight each other, or will that only happen if there's a female on the same cage as well?
Thanks in advance.
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Is it okay to keep a female and a male canary together after the breeding season ?
And if i have to keep them apart is one of those grate separators enough?

Pic related my birbs, i've had them for quite a while but was recently told they maybe shouldn't be together
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>>2384496

That cage is seriously lacking stimuli, like what the hell.
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I was given a cockatiel by the guy who was renting my apartment. The problem is, I never had a bird before. I've been trying my best to keep him happy, but he won't come out of his cage and tries to beak me if I put my finger next to him.
He hops on my father's fingers though, and he has no problem staying for hours on my shoulders or in my room. How do I make him get used to me?

tl;dr my bird doesn't like me and I have no idea what the fuck I should do to change this.
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>>2383197
Option C: falconry. It so happens falconry gets you good at ID-ing raptors.

The trick is to do it a damn lot. I can ID a red-tail by only looking at the way it flaps its wings, and I've gotten a lot better at ID -ing passage vs haggard without having to get binoculars on its tail (which is often not something you will get to see well enough without bumping it). I got much better after the first time I went out trapping, where it took 2 weeks to find a passage; I got better because it was massive practice. Had to have seen at least 250 red-tails, incl. at least 100 over one weekend. All hags, the little fucks.

Also having someone with you who knows more than you to point out the species and such helps.
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Do chickens count as birbs?
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>>2385043
>he has no problem staying for hours on my shoulders
how do you keep him from shitting down your torso constantly
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>>2385058
I wear an old shirt and wash it after I'm done playing with him.
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>>2384829
what should i put in there?
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>>2385392
Shreddables, bird safe bells and mirrors, regular stuff so they don't lose their minds
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>>2385613
Alright then thank you
You got any insight into my original question you could help me with
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>>2385053
really more of a fish than a birb
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>>2385043
>if I put my finger next to him.

so don't do that. give him head scritches
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>>2385684
He tries to beak me when I do that. Like, he gets closer, lowers his head, and tries to beak me when my finger gets too close. And he was kinda letting me pet him, which only leaves me more confused.
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>>2385705
mutual preening and attacking are very related actions in the psychology of some birds (idk about cockatiels specifically though). If you don't have confidence and try to flee, then the bird will be more inclined to follow through and attack.
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>>2385053
>>2385681
>really more of a fish than a birb

this desu, have you tasted chicken?
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>>2385705
let him beak you a little bit and dont pull away, my cockatiel beaks my finger too and then accepts scritches and nuzzles on me
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>>2379952
youtube toucans can be addictive. careful!
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>driving home
>see bird in middle of road
>park and walk over to it
>young robin begins making "gibe food pls" motions and noises
>look around for the most likely tree it came from
>put him in a spot where he is sheltered
>wait a bit
>decide I'm scaring off the parents and drive home
Did I do ok?
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>>2384125
What is the kind on the left?
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How likely am I to disturb a robin into abandoning a nest in my tree? I'm obviously not touching the nest or shaking the tree around, but I was pointing it out to someone (we were maybe 5-6 feet away) and a robin was there and flew off near the back door, where we spooked it again on the way in. I also have to mow around the tree about once a week. The nest is only about 6-7 feet off the ground.

Are they likely to abandon nests for such mild agitation or should it be okay?
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Am I taming my new budgie right? I can put my finger right up against him and he will stay calm for a few seconds, then beak my finger and start flying around the cage really fast. Like is it normal?
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>>2386340

yes that is exactly what you should do. Fledglings fall out of their nest and bounce around until figuring out how to fly. The parents hang around and bring it food still, and will hide if something big approaches. so you did good
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>>2385053
Don't listen to the haters. Chickens are good birds and will love you very much in their simple yet bizarre chicken way.
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My new bird shit on my arm for the first time. We're bonding so quickly.
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>>2386340
Idiot. You got your smell on it and now the parents will abandon it.
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Cedar Waxwing is my favorite bird <3

Unfortunately they only come through my area once a year for a short time. I'm always listening for their scree-ing
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I love birds. Currently raising

>pheasants
Pair of red golden

>turkeys
2 broad breasted whites
One royal palm x eastern wild turkey

>ducks
2 pair of grey calls
1 pair of white calls
2 blue fawn call hens
4 pekins

>chickens
17 barred rock hens
12 hampshire hens
2 welsumer hens
2 Rhode Island red cocks
15 buff orpington chicks
2 white laced red Cornish hens
3 brown leghorn hens
5 silver laced wyandotte hens
1 partridge rock cock

>geese
4 grey toluse

In the incubator I have almost 200 chicken eggs, all hens bred to the rock cock except the barreds who where bred to the RI cocks for sexlinks. Also have 14 pheasant eggs and 27 duck eggs all from calls bred to their respective varieties.

This year I am planning on cutting adding black Sumatra's, partridge cochins, and Jersey giants to the chicken flock, lady Amherst to the pheasants, and any and every rare type of turkey I can find.

I started off showing call ducks and selling eggs. I also used to sell turkeys for thanksgiving, but dogs killed my flock so I'm currently only raising two for me to eat while I rebuild. I've still sell eggs, but I have decided to focus more on breeding. The plan is to keep any desirable crossbreds I produce and keep crossing until they breed true. My turkeys are on a similar breeding program were I just let them all cross because I have found that when people pick them out they prefer turkeys with unique color patterns over broad breasted whites. When my numbers get back to where they should be, I will be breeding for colorful toms to throw over Narragansett hens.
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>>2387331
pics?
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>>2387365

What would you like to see? My camera is broken, but I may be able to barrow one before tomorrow.
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>>2386489
sounds like your bird is not staying calm to me, though it does sound like normal behaviour.

>>2387104
(you)
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>>2374279
Western Tanager
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>>2387426
not him but id like to see the pheasants
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>>2387551

Here's the hen on the roost with the cock hidden somewhere in the rafters. They are staying in the chick rearing pen while I build them a proper cage.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of bird this is? I live in west tennessee.
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>>2387886
It's worth two in the bush.
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When I live in Dallas my neighbor was selling birds
He got a birdfeeder wire up to the power
He was electrocuting them with a button to get the pretty ones
Then he was selling them to chinese people on ebay he said
The cop call me a derogatory name and didnt believe when I tell them and even mail pictures to teh station they said never say again
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Are there any birds that aren't too messy that could stand apartment life? I've wanted a bird for a while, but I don't want anything that's super loud or messy.
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>>2387973
>Dallas
>Pajeet
There's your problem. If you meant business then you would have been taking pot shots at him with an air rifle. Nobody will take you seriously in Texas if you just whine, especially if you're foreign.
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>>2377739
off he goes in a craigslist ad

better yet to the local animal shelter

what an insufferable bird
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>>2388002
I actually kept my budgie in an apartment for a couple of weeks when things were unstable. He was upset enough at the foreign environment that he became quite timid with his vocalizations. Still loud as shit in the mornings, but then so are the birds outside the window.

Birds are loud man. Maybe hold off until you graduate from apartment life?
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I saw a bird in a petstore today that I didn't know, and I didn't think to ask the owners what it was. It was about the size of a zebra finch, except thinner and maybe a bit longer. It was a sort of greenish/grey/light brown, with and orange beak and slightly orange feathers around the beak, and it's eyes were sort of topaz I think. It was very small, very fast, and seemed nervous. What was it?
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how do i get a pet crow
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I got given 2 canaries for my birthday and id like to ask a few questions if you guys wouldnt mind answering me:
1 - Is it ok to ler them uave baths everyday?

2 - How often should i give them fresh fruits and vegetables? And what kinds?

3 - I was told to keep them separate since they are male and female, why is it that i have to do this? I was given the birds with a large cage that has a divider.

4- should i feed them seeds or those pettle foods i find in pet shops?.

5- what is the most effective way of getting rid of spent seeds and keeping the whole ones from the birds food tray thing
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>>2388446
>1 - Is it ok to ler them uave baths everyday?

Yes, it's normal.

>2 - How often should i give them fresh fruits and vegetables? And what kinds?

I give mine a little lettuce and apple every once in a while. Tbh, they get by just fine on the seed mix I give them.

>3 - I was told to keep them separate since they are male and female, why is it that i have to do this? I was given the birds with a large cage that has a divider.

In spring, they'll mate and she'll lay eggs.

>4- should i feed them seeds or those pettle foods i find in pet shops?.

I just do seeds, but that may not be ideal.

>5- what is the most effective way of getting rid of spent seeds and keeping the whole ones from the birds food tray thing

My seed tray is wide and shallow, this way they never miss any and the spent seeds get flicked out. Every couple months I clean the cage. Not sure if that's what you meant.

Canaries are very low maintenance birds. Feed everyday (takes like 5 seconds), new water every couple days (everyday is ideal), clean cage every couple months, cut long nails like every season or so.
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>>2377739
I wish something cared about me this much
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>>2388431
Have $3000, you own house, and no job, a work from home job, or someone else to raise it. Crows are like small children and need constant socialization. Don't buy a crow thinking it'll be a cool pet you can wheel out to say "never more" to guests.
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How do you feel about shipping birds?

I posted >>2379176
I've been having trouble finding a lovebird breeder in the New England area. Found someone who ships via United Airlines, Delta Airlines or USPS. I didn't think USPS allowed shipping live birds but I was wrong.

I've worked for UPS in the past and I feel really uncomfortable shipping live animals. From loaders, unloaders and package handlers
in general - we are seriously shitty about handling packages and I can only imagine it's the same for others and its easy to accidentally overlook "LIVE ANIMALS" on a box. I almost broke a boxed tank full of fish and only thing that made me look was that it was heavy as shit and I heard sloshing around.
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>>2388002
diamond dove
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Hi I'm not sure if this is the right place or not, but I was wondering if any of you own/raise/hunt with birds of prey, if yes I had some questions since I'm interested in getting my permit. That means getting or trapping a American Kestrel. Also first time on this specific board. Thank you.
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>>2390776
What state m8? NH checking in.

The airline options are pretty legit for animal shipping. I wouldn't use any typical package service. Really though I can't see how you aren't within a few hours of a breeder. Lovebirds are fairly popular.
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Birds are gay.
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>>2388002
a pigeon
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>>2391244
the flouride in the water and chemtrails and HAARP are even turning the birds gay
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>>2391240
NH as well. Im not native but I must be retarded because I'm just finding every other parrot breeder except lovebirds. Id be down for a lutino or pied but doesn't really matter.

Also what's up with Quakers here? I'm always coming across people openly selling them and articles talking about how they are illegal or someone's Quakers getting confiscated.
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>>2391245
Pigeons while pretty quiet won't fit in an apartment. Either they need a huge flight cage or they need to be out like all day, and if they're out all day they can make a mess. Just try diamond dove(s). They're small and do make some noise but not often and it's just quiet cooing.
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>>2391586
pigeons fit just fine in an apartment. humans have been keeping rock doves in small spaces for about five thousand years.

and smaller doves need a lot more cage space + free flight time than you want to believe, about as much as the pigeon desu. collared + diamond doves were domesticated much later than the pigeon and retain more "wild-type" behaviors, this includes aggression if they're forced into too small a space. in addition, pigeons tolerate harnesses/pigeon pants much better than doves do in my experience and they're easier to manage with dense populations. they will also home if tragedy strikes and the bird is accidentally let out, whereas the smaller doves will not.
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>>2391534
5 minutes of Googling gave me a place capled Cooocoo's nest in Derry. Their Facebook page is fairly active and their birds look healthy. I didn't see any lovebirds, but they have advertisments for them. I'd give them a call. Good luck fellow 603er.
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