Underrated Pets

Because they control the banks and diamonds.

>>2364665
Because wild rats are a constant pest, they spread diseases and damage buildings and ruin food.

>>2364669
(((Kek)))

>>2364674
Cats have devastated nature and made several species extinct
Dogs have mauled millions of people to death
Rabbits have destroyed entire ecosystems
Mice have ruined just as much food as rats
Your point?

>>2364724
Look, I'm not saying it's logical or what I believe, but it's a large factor in why they have a bad reputation.
Most people's first or only experience with rats is them as pests, but most people have at least met a dog or cat.

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Because they're pests in the wild and people are constantly seeing them portrayed as filthy and/or villainous creatures in media.

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>>2364756
Yeah, I can't think of many fictional rats that are good. Pic related is one of the few.
You raise a kid on rats as villains and they never see how a real domestic rat is different and they won't like rats.

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i wish i had one.

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>>2364756
>>2364760
*blocks your path*

>>2364769
Even here, doesn't the restaurant close down in the end? Ive only seen this once.

Its like sneks.

>>2364771
Yeah, they shut down the Gusteau restaurant but they manage to create another one where Remmy can prepare his meals in peace.

The people who survived the black plague probably did so in part because of an inborn aversion to carriers like rats and mice. It might just be an evolutionary thing.

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>>2364760
>>2364769
Secret of NIMH (which also features a rat as a villain), Ratatouille and Flushed Away are some of the few kids movies I can come up with where rat characters are showed in a positive light.

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>>2364787
*stands in the middle of your path*

>>2364665
Because people don't do caresheets. It's a common pet, so must be easy!
Like my friend, for example, complained on hysterical activities of their childhood pet rat, while they swore they "took care of them". "Never ever, what a shit pet, I had bites, pee all over my hands and overall they are so ungrateful".
I searched a bit and apparently if you love oranges and eat them a lot in your room, with the cage, rats will slowly go literally crazy because they hate the scent. I wouldn't know. And hell yea there are tons of mandarines and tanngerines around every winter here. This is a clunky explanation, but here you go.

>>2364816
Jerry is a mouse.

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>>2364665
I ask myself that all the time..

>>2364816
Anon that's a mouse... Mice are often protagonists and good-guy characters. Which makes rats the villains, because rats kill mice in the wild.

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>>2364787
>>2364826
>>2364832

*stands in the way you were going to, blocking you*

They're kinda stinky and have weak bladders.

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>>2364756
Pretty much this. Kids who might never have seen a real rat are shown in cartoons and movies that rats are sneaky and evil animals. There are some exceptions like the ones provided in this thread, but rats are mostly used as villains.

>>2364727
Ok yeah I do agree with you there.

>>2364859
I think your rat's sick, friend. My rats didn't piss on me once after a few months of owning them and getting them accustomed to what was and what wasn't their territory.

>>2364891
A combination of fat and sugar. Not just one or the other.

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>>2364891
plsbebaitplsbbebait
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I CANT TAKE THE CHANCE
D O N O T D O THI S RERERERERE ANON PLSL

>>2364891
You do realise that your rat is going to live half its normal lifespan, right?

>>2364932
No they don't you idiot. With a healthy lifestyle, they can live up to 4. They should live up to 2 AT THE VERY LEAST. A severely obese rat will live to about 1-1.5. You really want to shave that many years off your rat's life?

>>2364932
So your rat's quality of life isn't a factor at all? It won't be very comfortable being heavily obese.

>>2364947
>hurrrrrr I don't experience sadness over pet deaths
>hurrrrr look at me and my cigs I'm so fucking cool and edgy *tips fedora*

You're a dumb cunt and I'd simply laugh at your le edgy 4channer schtick if you weren't hurting animals in the process.

>>2364964
let me guess-
you discipline your rat with beatings?

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>>2364964
>All animals die
>In an H-G societ
>I'm not even willing to argue anyway

It's like the 2017 e-nihilist's checklist!

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>>2364964
>>2364947

Lmao is this real?

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>>2364964
>your human inclination for compassion towards living things is oversensitive. In a hunter-gatherer society, you would be one of the gatherers while I'd be one of the hunters

Been a long time since I've read such a hilarious fedora-faggot-esque response on this board.

>>2364665

MY SNEKS ARE HANGARY

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>>2364984
>As I know nothing of you, I _think_ nothing of you.

>>2364984
Amazing way of disciplining it!

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>>2364977
>mfw imagined the Fedora tipper in your picture saying that

>>2364984
Superb rat keeping! Do tell what you feed him/her.

>>2364997
Hard not to.

I miss my rat bros and gals.

I'm a fool though and I always take in Rescue Rats as a foster. Since the ones I get are basically pet-shop / factory / back yard bred they always develop cancers or come to me in shit condition / end of life cause no one wants them.

The worst instance of this is I had a terribly underweight black-eyed white. She had a blown out eye, respiratory infection and was tiny for her age. I got to spend one day with her...just one fucking day. The day I picked her and her two sisters up. It was probably the best day of her life. She had hugs and scritches, spaghetti and yoggy treats. She boggled and fell asleep in my hoodie on her own and she and her sisters got to sleep in a decked out cage. I came down next morning and she'd died during the night in her sleep curled up with her sisters.

Her rex sister later died of Mico infection and "old age" as it was for her breeding of just over 2.

Her other sister lasted a year and a half more and was near 2 1./2 and developed a Zymbals tumour. Google that shit

I've had rats with heart conditions, obesity, malnutirition, blindness, deafness, dementia. Dealt with pituitary tumours, mammary tumours, ear infections, urinary tract infections, mico infections etc etc. Name it and I've faced it, thrown all the cash I have at it and been fucked over by it.

I've probably thrown £5K+ easily in rat care on rats that technically weren't even mine.

I still love em and miss them to this day. I wish I could trade years of my life into theirs. I've been told a month in human time is the equivalent to around three years of Rat life. Meaning after a year your rats are basically entering middle-aged and by 4 years are venerable ancients of their kind.

I hate it sometimes though. I really want NFRS certified breeder rats bred for longevity. But they aren't the ones who need my help. I'm currently rat free atm, but fml If I could tomorrow i'd set up a rescue and live like a derranged rat-man.

>>2365005
Oh fuck off you pretentious ass bag

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>>2365005
>>2364984
This gotta be bait.

>>2365025
>Some third world Cyrillic shit-hole
>Bait

Nah mate, best we can do is hope their shit hole country gets lit up like a roman candle and they starve to death in the ruins.

>>2364724
Because we dont care about the ecosystem or people dying (people die a lot anyway and dogs are useful bros)

However something that carries diseases for us and hurts our food is gonna get a bad rap
Mice are only slightly less hated, due to their small and less threatening size

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Guessing they make for better villains since they're bigger 'scarier' mice and can do actual damage to a person/small child. Some in the city can grow fucking huge.

>>2364816
>Making some sort of weird argument that rats aren't usually portrayed as bad characters
>Posts a mouse

You think it's a coincidence mice are seen as fairly common/acceptable pets for kids while rats aren't? Or why Ratatouille, a movie with a rat main character, is about not judging a book by its cover? How come Mickey Mouse or Jerry aren't rats instead of mice? People don't like them, even though both mice and rats fuck up homes and eat your food/carry disease.

It's a shame, because domesticated rats are very good pets for people who don't have much space and still want something smart.

>>2364947
listen, nobody gives a shit about your feelings. I came here to laugh at ratfags, but they don't deserve an owner like you

>>2364964
I bet you voted trump

>>2365025
yes that video of him blowing his smoke in his rat's face was just bait. the lung cancer is ironic don't worry haha

>>2365005
oh no, not pop culture references!

>>2364964
>In a hunter-gatherer society

But it's not anymore, you colossal fucking faggot. Unless you're in some 3rd world shithole which in that case how the fuck you have internet to shitpost?

>>2364947
>>2365022
>Keeps rat alone in small glass tank
>Blows smoke in its face as 'discipline'
>Complains about being insulted on animal board for posting an animal being mistreated.

Someone ban this idiot.

>>2365005
Please become a namefag the character is amazing and we need more happenings on /an/

>>2364964
I think Data Hoarder is a more appropriate word for me considering the era we're living in, but you call it whatever you want.

>>2365142
Yes please anon!

>>2365038
Ignorance is bliss?

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>>2364817
Huh, that's fascinating actually. Do males hate the scent more than females, because I know male rats are susceptible to kidney cancer if you feed them oranges. That'd be an interesting relation.

>>2364669
fpbp

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their tails are unsettling to a lot of people

>>2364665
>tfw want rats
>cant get them because my roommate has a very loud dog
>would be too stressful for rats to live with

feels bad desu

>>2365361
Why are rat tails more unsettling than human body?

>>2364774
Thanks for spoiling faggot

>>2364665
Should I get a rat?

>>2365114
You're a retard and need to fuck off of /an/

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>>2365480
The rat's fucking face at being surrounded with bread

>>2365480
Please get a tripcode

>>2364760
I fell in love with this guy
Was so dissapointed that the mouse didnt fuck him

>>2365480
Your rat probably crawls under the bed because he dislikes his cage and doesnt feel safe there. You need a larger wire cage with a hiding place and hammocks.

>>2364665
So.. Is this about underrated pets or how underrated rats are? I had one who killed my gecko and tortoise and bit me within the span of 2 days. Never again.

As far as underrated let's, I'd say snails or pigeons. Snails are so fun to watch eat and hold and pigeons are so much better than parrots.

>>2365507
Why did you let the rat anywhere near a gecko?!
Rats prey on smaller animals. They kill anything from mice to pigeons

>>2365514
And your turtle too?! Turtles have a shell that must have taken long, how did you not see it?. Did you just lock all your pets in the same tank?

>>2365507
>Puts lone rat with gecko and tortoise
>Surprised when the rat, an opportunistic prey animal, kills them

Never been bitten by any of my rats, and have had 10+. Your rat was probably from a shit breeder/petstore, and if you kept it alone with no other rats it's no wonder it felt unsafe and bit you.

>>2365479
twiggered drumpfybaby

>>2365507
how in the world did you let that happen you awful shit onwer

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>>2365114
>everyone i don't like is a trump supporter

>>2365536
Not anon, but maybe they let the rat free roam? I know mine would stick his hands through the bars of his cage to snatch house geckos off the wall.

>>2365543
Still it is their responsibility to supervise the pets. I had 2 rats one was very kind and gentle the other had a massive prey drive he chased a paper on a string like a cat would.

You need to think of them as very agile predators.

>>2365480
>Lone rat
>Tiny glass tank
>Hay
>White bread and rabbit food
>Vaping in animal's face

Why do you even have an animal? Seems like you hate them. Or maybe that answers the question. Being a deliberate dick to a tiny creature gets you hard I bet.

>>2365585
>implying the zoosadists don't post here specifically to trigger you

stop feeding them fucking idiot, report and hide

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>>2365480
Fucking kek

>>2365114
This. Non animal-abusers all voted for Hillary. But in all seriousness, we can't let this man get a hold of the rat food.

>>2365672
If you really do want to take nicely care of it, please switch to the cage. Even if the budgie cage is as small, it's better. They like to crawl and explore things.

Seriously consider getting it a friend. Keeping rats alone is cruel.

>>2365672
The rat doesn't seem to understand what the fuck is going on. Wait until he is nearly dying of hunger and he will learn how to eat the fat bread

>>2365672
What are your intentions then? Why are you keeping it alone in a small glass tank and recording yourself vaping in its face?

To shitpost or what?

>>2365672
Fat AND sugar, anon. Bread is just complex sugar, not good for making obese rat.

>>2365540
>everyone who doesn't understand the value of life is a trump supporter
ftfy

>>2365543
>let the rat free roam
AND WHY WOULD YOU LET YOUR GECKO AND TORTOISE FREE ROAM? my point still stands

>>2366004
>tfw I apparently don't support life and jihadists suicide bombers support trump

>>2364665
because people can't handle tails that aren't furry

side not I was glad to see Petco won their case against the family blaming them for their kid dying to a rat bite

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>>2366022
>jihadist suicide bombers support trump
exactly. that's why he helped ISIS gain ground in syria

Anyone have a hedgehog? Been thinking of getting one because they are good alone so I can put all my attention into one

>>2365053
Most people I know can't tell the difference between rats and mice and use the words interchangeably.

>>2366214
>Mice are just big rats, right?

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Rat got under the fucking kitchen cupboards and I can't get it out. I tried using a stick to encourage it out but it found a nook that I can't reach with the stick. Help.

>>2364724
>Cats have devastated nature and made several species extinct
>said the ratfag

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>>2366188
Pretty gud. Not a particularly sociable animal, but they're alright to handle. If you get a young one, prepare for endless gigantic shits and frequent foot cleaning as they grow up. Thank fucking god mine became cleaner as an adult. The smell would sometimes get so fucking awful within a day or two when he was a babb. I'd have to totally dump the bedding three times a week back then. Now I can actually spot clean instead of dumping it all every time.

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>>2366471
Never mind, I figured out how to get it out. It went under a shallower cupboard so I stuffed the other one with bread bags. Used a stick it encourage it out and when it tried to run under the original cupboard I caught it. I outsmarted the fucking rat. He won't be getting any treats today.

>>2364665
>Why in the Hell do these cute little guys get such a bad rap??
THIS is exactly why they get a bad rap. You never get a cat or dog escaping from you by hiding under the cupboard.

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I don't like rodent pets because they have such short lifespans. If it's only going to live for like 4 years, I don't want to get attached to it. Pic related is more my speed.

>>2364665
>Why in the Hell do these cute little guys get such a bad rap??

Thousands of years of stealing our food, chewing up our shit, and spreading disease to us?

>>2366484
If you listened to me and made him a comfier cage, he would just return to the cage when he had enough exploring time.

>>2366482
How hard is to pet one of this? Any particular weather they need to live in?

>>2366496
I'll do that tomorrow morning. How would you rate me as a rat owner?

>>2366527
depends on the comfy level of the finished cage

>>2366471
>>2366484
Teach him to come when you call. That's how I get mine to come out if they've crawled under the bed. Also your place looks nasty af.

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>>2366518
They're fine to pet when the spines are down. And no particular weather as long as it doesn't get cold; they can go into hibernation and die. Just keep them indoors at room temp.

Rats and pigeons, bats and coyotes get a bad rap because they're successful human-colonizers. Out in the wild, animals can shit and fart in the streams without interrupting man's endless romanticizing. It's hard to romanticize about an animal when it's shitting in your cupboard spoiling your food.

In reality, if these morons paid attention to their NATURRRRRRRRR spiel they spew whenever they let their cat or dog run outside, they'd worship the rat and the pigeon. After all, they adapted to us. They fulfill your survival of the fittest bullshit arguments more than any other creatures, and yet, you despise them. Must be because you don't actually give a shit about nature or darwinism beyond a shallow excuse to be a cocksucker and shitpost about niggers.

>>2364665
I always had rats as a kid. There were great pets and always very friendly. When they bread (often) I sold the babies to a local pet store.

Love me some rats.

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>>2366751
>when they bread

>>2365514
Whoa whoa whoa there.
The rat was in a cage and the gecko and tortoise lived together their whole lives in a separate cage. The tortoise and gecko moved into my room because i was lonely. I got the rat for my birthday with a nice cage and everything it needed so I had my own pet instead of my dad's. I fell asleep after my birthday party all Tuckered out. They were only together for one night. I woke up the next morning and pieces of gecko and a rat were in the corner of my closet. I tried to pick up rat full on panic mode and it bit me. But yeah. My fault. Nowadays I just don't get shit animals that would eat me and my other pets. Why the hell would you want something that would kill anything it got to anyways?

>>2365516
The turtle actually died from sadness or some shit. After the gecko was killed that he spent his entire life with he stopped eating and drinking and passed away. I told my dad about it afterwards and he insisted he'd be fine. Again it was his tortoise. We both cried for days after he passed. No one really gave a shit about the gecko aside from me tho.

(I was like 13)

Don't get me wrong. Every once and a while you get a smart rat, but never again for me, those little fucks.

>>2366478
the difference is that ratfags, as pathetic as they may be, don't let their rats roam outside freely

>>2365425
How the fuck have you not seen Ratatouille yet by 2017

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>>2364665

My admittedly limited understanding is that there is a wide disparity in personality between rats bred for companionship and wild rats.

Whats funny is that there are other animals more deserving of such a mix up; dog breeds, mice. I suppose it is explainable; rats are exceptionally intelligent, and there seems to be some concordance with intelligence and wider variations in personality. That floating variable in decision patterns apparently roams more when there is more capacity for memory and association to influence the decision pattern, which we ultimately perceive as the quirks constituting 'personality'.

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>>2366496
>>2366591
Ok, done. Old jeans + paper clips are now the hammock you said to make. Budgie cage is on the ground now instead of on kitchen table.

>>2366592
>Teach him to come when you call.
Tried that a couple times. I don't know how to teach an animal its name.
>Also your place looks nasty af.
It sure is. Doing remodeling on it atm. Scraping off old wallpaper (junk you see on the carpet), getting rid of old flooring, cabinets, etc. Found a date written of 1976 under the wallpaper yesterday. Probably hasn't been remodeled since it was built in the soviet era.

>>2367336
Man thats a small cage you will need a bigger one and a hiding hut but its progress.

>>2364769
REMI!

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>>2365535

i was hanging out with one earlier today. pretty chill dudes. its cool if you can get them to ride on your shoulder

>>2367336
>I don't know how to teach an animal its name.

With its favourite food and lots of repetition/reward and patience. They'll get it... those critters are food-motivated and catch on.

Friend learned that unsalted cashews were her rats favourites. But she also had a special bond with each one so they knew when their name was called it meant a possible treat, affection, or some kind of interaction.

>>2366902
Sure

>>2364674
dogs and cats spread more diseases tho

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I want a rat anons... but I can't find any on my local stores... so I got a guinea pig instead

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>>2364860
>real rat
Dunno, when I think 'real rat' I think wild black rat, not domesticated brown rat

>>2369666
still cute

>>2364970
>e-nihlist

Was about to say in a nihilist and don't act like a shitty edgelord and treat my animals well. But yeah he's probably an edgy teen or someone rebelling against religion after reading some basic Nietzsche.

>>2369650
Hope your guinea pig is friendly. They aren't mean but they're pretty skittish and take awhile to trust you. Even when they get used to you they're not the cuddliest but they can be fun.

>>2364760
You cant think of splinter?

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>>2367778
Don't know what the rat’s “favorite“ food is as I only feed it rabbit food and these colorful stick treats, but alright I'll try.

Not sure if you're the same anon who suggested the cage instead of tank to get him to stop going under the couch, but it actually freaking worked. He seems more playful, didn't hide under the couch, and after about 3 hours of playing actually went back into his cage by himself. I let him explore new parts of the apartment now. So, thanks for that. You're like a rat whisperer or something.

>>2369685
>he's probably an edgy teen or someone rebelling against religion after reading some basic Nietzsche.
Incorrect in all 3 regards. 28, Christian, haven't read Nietzsche. Your skill of reading people needs some serious work.

>>2369886
No, it's perfectly fine. I'm just posting on a Hungarian cheese pizza sharing board after all. But nice to know you're just an uneducated moron instead.

Somebody gave me some rats a few years ago. They were great pets, and shockingly intelligent. They had more personality than any animal I've known before or since.

But I wouldn't keep them again.

Their lives are short and domestic rats have a ton of health problems. They were literally bred to be used in research, to be extremely prone to developing cancers, and to drop dead after
a maximum of two years. They are little bundles of heartbreak waiting to happen.

Secondly, they smell bad, and there is no getting around that. They spend all day grooming themselves, but still have a musky odor.

And lastly, I turned out to be allergic to them. Even though I broke out into a rash every time I cleaned the cage or handled them, I still loved my pet rats and kept them until they died.

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>>2364665
How are horseshoe crabs as pets? Can they stay out of the water for a time? I think they're cute, but I want to make sure I know what I'm getting into.

>>2371658
They need a fairly large aquarium. They're pretty alright they can be out of the water but not for long and not very often. Cool pets that are an interesting conversation piece.

I had two female rats once. One was all white and the other was naked. They lived ok with each other for a few months. Then the white rat started being shitty to the naked one, not letting her eat and biting her and just being a horrible bitch.

One day, I came in and the white rat had killed the naked rat. She had ripped her open.

I reached in, grabbed the white rat, and threw her out of the 4th story window onto the parking lot below. Fuck that bitch

>>2371712

LOL, NICE!

>>2371712

I know Im supposed to feel bad for the white rat too, yet I admit I can completely understand. Its hard thing, to reconcile cruelty by one pet towards another. I wanna say that I would be above such a rage, but I know thats not true.

Im very sorry for the loss of both your pets.

>>2371763
Hey, I appreciate your kind words. I felt bad right after posting, thinking myself an awful person, but then I remembered how much sadness and anger I felt when I had those rats 12 years ago.

I don't think I would've been able to look at or interact with the white rat ever again after she murdered and partially cannibalized her "friend".

>>2371777
>>2371763
But that that's kind of a very childish reaction innit? Not saying anon was an awful person for doing it, but that sort of reaction is what you might get from a child (where you a child/teenager?) who doesn't understand their pets aren't small disney creatures. Rats cannibalize each other in the wild when one dies, it keeps away predators.

>>2367336
that's a very small cage for such a big rat anon, he needs more space

>>2371777
Sorry but why did you keep them in the same enclosure when they clearly weren't getting along?

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I don't have one, BUT...

>>2364817

That's interesting. My cat absolutely despises the scent of citrus fruits too. Looks at me with utter revulsion if I go to stroke her after eating an orange.

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>>2364665
how about kangaroos or wallabies? assuming someone had the land and acreage for them?

why does Australia have the coolest animals yet the shittiest of laws

>>2371763
see the real cruelty was keeping those two rats together when he knew they didn't get along

>>2373738
the shitty pet laws are to protect the cool animals you dunce

>>2373778
I just mean like laws in general, Cant own any decent hunting rifles out there, also I think they can raid your house just for visiting exhentai

if it weren't for those laws Id move to Australia, trumps bullshit is starting to get annoying really quick anon.

I mean I love the states because Right to bear arms. Also just the fact that we put a man on the moon, and that we helped win WWII with Russia, really gets the freedom in my blood going. but modern American materialism depresses me working as a cashier at a big name store and seeing all of the plastic and useless shit people buy just makes me feel like there is no hope for this country or planet.

if i were to get a pet ratto would my cat be forever trying to eat him or would they eventually get used to each other?

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>>2367336
Anon if you want your rat to thrive and be more responsive, a cage like pic related would be a lot more appropriate. Also rats are social animals and enjoy each other's company. In captivity they usually do better kept in pairs or more.

If you can't afford a better cage, try DIYing something, even a temporary home's probably better than your current set up in all honesty.

It's not the best but you can get the 'You & Me Rat Manor Habitat' on amazon for under $70 with free shipping, it's big enough for two rats.

>>2374810
Depends on the age/kind of cat. If you get a kitten accustomed to the presence of a rat then it might not see it as prey, but that's a huge if. The rat too might not even want to interact with the cat.

That's when you give it the toxo.

>>2364859
Their bladders aren't weak, they're intentionally dribbling piss on you because they like you.

>>2364665

Because they have a long history as pests and spreaders of disease.

Which is unfortunate, because they're wonderful pets. Way better than a hamster or a gerbil. Their only real shortcoming is their tragically short lives.

My oldest rat is very ill, with two tumours on her belly. Poor thing won't even leave her bed to eat anymore. She's probably not long in this world.

rats smeel bad

>>2376223
poor ratto. :-(

>>2376223
may she not suffer long

my rats died recently and i'm still not over it a month later

>>2366789
You're literally blaming your own juvenile negligence on the animal.

Also turtles and tortoises are two different animals, not just two different terms for one animal.

>>2364669

Well why don't they share with their owners then?

>>2371777
Anon, rats will sometimes eat the corpses of their cagemates. It's a natural survival instinct so the body won't attract predators. Since hairless rats are fragile, there's a good chance she'd just died of natural causes and you found the white rat scavenging.

Also, you're an absolute fucking dick. Rats having dominance fights is a natural thing. You should have been a responsible pet owner and done something about it, instead of killing your pet in a tantrum.

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>>2371712
>Be white rat
>Rat friend dies
>Cruel god is nowhere to be found
>There has been no real sustenance for ages!
>Slowly begin to consume my one and only friend, tears in my eyes as I tear flesh from her cold dead body just because I have to in order to survive
>Door swings open
>OGODNO.JPEG
>God looks at me in horror screaming like an autist
>Gets picked up
>Thank god he's taking me away, maybe I'll get some real fo-
>Tfw autistic throws me out a four story
window
>Final thoughts are of my friend and the cruel master who failed to feed us before my body splatters on the concrete below

Really, you did good anon.

How do you ratfags feel about hamsters?

>>2369685
>>2369886
why the fuck would you rebel against Christianity after reading Nietzsche? It actually makes no sense

>>2364724
three of those animals look cute

>>2364665
I heard they piss everywhere. Isn't that extremely annoying to deal with

look cool otherwise

Rats getting a lot of hate itt, my only experience with them was a childhood friend of mine who had two of them, they were friendly and climbed all over you when you visited.

If I remember correctly they had rebuilt an old closet that they lived in. I guess the biggest pro/con is their lifespan which is quite short.

>>2378785
They are lame.

At least guinea pigs are amusingly large.

>>2367336
oh shit this guy again.
>>2367342
>>2373631
>>2374849
theres literally no point, this guy refuses to accept that he treats his pet like crap (that he should have a bigger cage and another rat) he's either entirely delusional or satisfied with keeping his pet in subpar conditions

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>>2374849
>spacepod
MYMAN

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>>2364665
Rats are illegal to own here except for lab experiments

>>2379120
not even the rats go to Alberta

>>2365010
this made me sad and I'm not even super into rats. you're a good man anon

>>2365010
You cared for them when nobody else would and gave them a good life with whatever time they had left. That means something and you're a good person for it.

ive got three hooded males i got a couple of weeks ago, 5 weeks and weened off of moms milk.

they are adorable, but still skittish,how can i better get them used to handling?

>>2365010
your a saint.

>>2365010
>I'm a fool

>It was probably the best day of her life.
cant have it both ways anon, youre a good guy. need more people like you

Any rat peeps had rats that just don't run in wheels? I've tried 4 different types upright or the flat saucer type & my 3 current rats just completely ignore em except to poop on em. I feel like they are gonna end up super fat but if they aren't going to use em anyway giving em more cage space seems like the better idea

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>Got sold a """female pair""" of rats
>Was not a female pair
>I now have 12 rats
>Happened when I was gone on vacation, did not arrive in time to remove the male
>Rats go into heat 12-24 hours after giving birth, AKA there's likely another litter on the way
>Female is likely pregnant again
>Male is blind and refuses to be grabbed, having a fucking hell of a time getting him into the carrier so he can go get fixed
>Room is loud as fuck and I spend way too much time cleaning up rat shit+piss but they love me and jump into my hood/pockets when I open the cage

At least they're cheap to feed. Soon my girlfriend is coming to help me corner the male and get his nuts removed.

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>>2364665

>>2380209
Just put the babies on craigslist.

>>2364665
>>2364830

Let loose the little shit and see what it would do to your house.

>>2378841
Cause they didn't understand the "god is dead" phrase and basically everything else.

>>2378968
And delicious when fried.

>>2380209
so you were sold a female (male)

>>2364674
Rats can't transfer anything to a human other than salmonella. All reptiles carry salmonella and it's MUCH more common to get it somewhere else considering it kills rats EXTREMELY fast if they catch it. They spread almost zero disease to humans. That's a myth.

>>2380375
Having done this at one point: they climb on stuff and try to eat your cereal.
That was about it.
It was funny watching them try to get up my wood stairs, desu.

>>2382583
Wrong.
https://www.cdc.gov/rodents/diseases/direct.html

>>2364724
>Dogs have mauled millions of people to death
>millions
Citation definitely needed

I'd say snakes are pretty underrated too. My red tail boa is 8 feet of pure cuddliness.

Snakes are just one of those animals that people have an irrational fear of. People think they always bite, that they're slimy, and that they'll eat you or kill you when they get big for some reason. Meanwhile I've never been bitten once and the cute bastard has fallen asleep on me many times

>>2384580
Meh. Snakes certainly don't "cuddle".. you're just a convenient source of heat.

Snek was just giving free hugs, unfairly maligned:

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2016/11/03/new-brunswick-brothers-killed-by-python-were-blue-court-told.html

>>2364665
You never saw a street rat before?

>>2364665
Also look up rat infestation. Next thing you're gonna ask the same dumb question about roaches because there's a hissing cockroach pet. They're globally known to be vermin.

>>2367336
Your place looks fucking disgusting, clean it up once in a while

>>2379057
>this guy refuses to accept that he treats his pet like crap (that he should have a bigger cage and another rat) he's either entirely delusional or satisfied with keeping his pet in subpar conditions

look at his dirty ass house, if he's perfectly content with living in such garbage, you can't expect him to provite anything more to an animal

>>2380128

they don't all run but you're good to provide them with the option. they may also run when you are not around

>>2380209

mother will wean them at like 4-4.5 weeks. make sure you separate all males from all females (including sons from mom) at 5 weeks. if dad is cranky, watch and make sure he doesn't attack the boys. look up a chart to see how to tell the sexes. I mean obvs males will get nuts. also only female rats have nipples. sounds fake but I promise it is true

when you adopt them out, make sure they go in groups of 2-4 same sex rats, even if the adopter already has rats. might as well keep a boy to live with dad so he isn't alone for his whole life

good luck!!

RATS ARE THE FUCKING BEST

Clean themselves like cats, play like dogs, prance around like deer, and can climb like monkeys. Really underrated. I think they get a bad rep from media and probably just general phobia of small things. Many of my friends say it's their tail that's the turn off, but I think it's cool almost reptilian.

I'm on my 5th so far and they've all been a blast, so much personality in such a little creature. Really made me look at life differently in a humbling kind of way. I think if any animal deserves to inherit the earth after a nuclear disaster, it's rats...and maybe crabs. I can't recommend enough.

>>2364817
That's real curious. My girls (who I'm sure are safe from the damage) like oranges. I do know they hate the scent of mint though. I'd use it to keep them away from our vents.

>>2364859
They shouldn't stink as they're very critical about cleaning and scent. Other rodents tend to stink way more in comparison, mine kind of smell a little like flour tortillas up close or like no smell at all. And if they're peeing a lot they're either sick or marking if it's male. My boy peed a lot until he was fixed now he never does anymore.

Axolotls

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Aside from rats, I had a short tailed opossum. Was a neat little guy. Probably as active and affectionate as sugar gliders. Which isn't a lot but he was really nice and liked to crawl around me and sleep in my clothes. Their lifespan is worse than rats though. At least rats have a chance to live 2+ years.

I hear degus are really good pets.

>>2364665
Those with rats established in their homes know that they piss everywhere and gnaw on everything. As much as I've tried to tame the rats in my laundry room they're still very different from fancy rats.

>>2385188
Roaches are not vermin. They are small, biteless, stingless, animals who do not spread disease, and that's true of all cockroaches regardless of species.

That image freaks me the fuck out. Is it so low quality to hide the bad shop or what?

>>2364665
I love the sound that rats make when they are in pain. Sometimes when mine climb up the bars of the cage, i'll squish their toes and they freak out. The sound is lovely.