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Floof edition

This is the invertebrate general. If you have any questions about invertebrates, want to look into owning one or more, or want to simply discuss them, this is the thread to do so, whether its

>Tarantulas and other spiders
>Myriapods
>Mollusks
>Crustaceans
>Or anything without a backbone

Feel free to post it.

old thread >>2350917
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/invert/ channel
https://discord.gg/Dfyt3nF
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The P. metallica slings I got have finally started to eat, thank god.

I know I shouldn't be worried, I only got them a week ago but they were kinda slim looking and from what I've seen they haven't webbed anything up yet, but I'm still relieved, even if they weren't that expensive.
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>>2363825
noice

OP here. Should we compile a list of resources to put into the next OP?
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>>2363843
sounds good
what should be included in this list?
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>>2363898
I'm mostly into tarantulas, so I only know so much.

I know that arachnoboards is essential, as well as either the British or American Tarantula societies, depending on where you live. Vogelspinnen is also good.

We should also find some basic guides on one of those sites to kind of act as a primer for basic questions/FAQ
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>>2363843
>>2363898
yeah

the discord server is also looking good and the owner's kept it from being a 110+ user circlejerk so far, so i'd welcome discord invites being in the OP.
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>>2363900
I like tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com
His beginners guides are some of the best and his husbandry notes are great. We should include that for basic tarantula care advice.
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>>2363908
noted
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>>2363908
>>2363909
Forgot to add

That's tarantulas down. We'll need some FAQ resources for other inverts too. I'd begin with centipedes and other myriapods. Hopefully centipede guy will be here soon enough to fill us in on that.

We should also cover basic insects and crustaceans as well
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>>2363910
>Hopefully centipede guy will be here soon enough to fill us in on that.
I am already here. And in the Discord actually.

There really aren't any great online resources on pedes as far as I know. I could write something up but that might take a while and be a shitty read.
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>>2363913
hmm

well ,that's a shame
Seriously, there isn't any good stuff online? Not even a single thread or a forum?
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>>2363914
I just looked through the first 3 pages of what comes up when you type in "centipede care", most of it is utter horseshit.

Honestly I'd recommend just buying a book.
Giant Centipedes, The Enthusiast's Handbook by Orin McMonigle for english speakers, though it's only a rather short overview and needs an update badly.

Hundertfüßer by Christian Kronmüller for german speakers. It's an excellent book that goes into a lot of detail but sadly it's only in german.
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>>2363940
Hmm

well, if there are PDFs, we'll have to make do with URLs. If not, we'll just have to list them
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My 2 Colonies are doing pretty well. My Camponotus nicobarensis are done with their current brood cycle so the queen has started laying a new batch of eggs. They're about 40-50 Workers strong now. I expect their population to explode once they hit around 100-200.

My Camponotus rufipes are taking it a bit slower and currently only have 3 pupa and like 2-3 larva.
I expect the Queen to start laying in like 1-2 weeks though.

Got of few new pics of them foraging though.

1/3
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3/3

Getting water for the colony and transporting it back to the nest.
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My rose hair hasn't eaten since January.
wat do
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>>2363976
Rose hairs are infamous for fasting like crazy, even when not in premolt.
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>>2363976
come back when it's been a year, then you can slowly start to get slightly concerned
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>>2363843
Make a pastebin and let everyone use it.

I'll probably shill pic related. I see it cited errywere.

>>2363957
>>2363958
>>2363960
Neat.jpg
Any pics of the rufipes?
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>>2364016
>Any pics of the rufipes?

Only from when I got them on the 8th this month.
Their brood has developed a lot since then and they have been feeding nicely.
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>>2363957
what a massacre

how much do they eat on average?
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>>2363947
I started thinking about how I would structure a general guide and this is what I came up with. This might be more extensive than I thought.
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>>2364039
1-2 roaches every 2 days for this small founding colony.

Bigger colonies with a couple thousand workers eat as much as a small dog.
Mature supercolonies with about a million workers eat as much as a big dog.
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>>2364060
>Mature supercolonies with about a million workers eat as much as a big dog.

You can't actually keep a colony that big though, right? I mean just the logistics behind it would be insane.
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I have only had one pet spider. A large Tan male jumping spider that was stuck in my room for awhile. I got him a tank and fed him bugs for awhile and holding him. He was a bit old and wouldn't jump much, so it wasn't hard. After awhile i let him go outside in the sunshine so he could hopely live the rest of his life where he belongs.
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>>2364048
Looks like you're on the right track though

>>2364016
Maybe the pastebin can be for the "misc" stuff (crustaceans, myriapods, etc) that don't have a real extensive guide.

As for more mainstream stuff like tarantulas and scorpions, we can site certain caresheets/info sheets, as >>2363913 suggested.
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>>2364109
Eh they'd need as much space as your average big lizard like Bearded Dragons etc.. At least for big ant species like Camponotus.
Ants are very space efficient and usually very clean animals too. They even create garbage dumps for their waste and dead so cleaning their enclosure is pretty easy.

Also ants being so small you can just connect multiple enclosures with TUBES, seriously Ants love those TUBES, they really like to hang out in them.

Also the logistics aren't that bad. You only need to feed them carbs and proteins.Proteins they take whatever they can get. For carbs just give them sugar water.
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Do you guys think this is enough leg space for an Arizona Blonde Aphonopelma chalcodes? I got the plants and soil from west Texas near its range. He has a good sized hide that he's been using everyday.

Also I am not leaving that water bowl in there, waiting to get a porcelain rock bowl to replace my "sealed" bowl I made that leaks. The rest of the background build went great if anyone wants pics/materials list.
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>>2364175
Top view. I ran a water line to the circled water bowl. It leaks so I'm putting in a porcelain bowl but I'll still have the water line to add water with.


On another note, my brother in law thought his pink toe died (it was upside down, I asked him "why would it flip itself upside down to die?") and was actually molting. He put it outside overnight until I told him to go get it, it isn't dead. It was low 50's (F) last night, is there a chance it survived the low temps during molt? Should I be worried he throws my sister out while she is sleeping too because he thinks she's dead?
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>>2364183
>On another note, my brother in law thought his pink toe died (it was upside down, I asked him "why would it flip itself upside down to die?") and was actually molting. He put it outside overnight until I told him to go get it, it isn't dead. It was low 50's (F) last night, is there a chance it survived the low temps during molt?

I might throw up
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>>2364175
Half of that would be fine as well. That's quite the luxury enclosure your T is enjoying.

The background looks great, whats it made of?

>>2364183
>On another note, my brother in law thought his pink toe died (it was upside down, I asked him "why would it flip itself upside down to die?") and was actually molting. He put it outside overnight until I told him to go get it, it isn't dead.

What the fuck? Did he not inform himself at all?

>It was low 50's (F) last night, is there a chance it survived the low temps during molt?
I'm not sure. On the one hand inverts handle too low temperatures better than too high ones on the other hands this was during a molt and Avics are tropical spiders. I'd guess that spider is dead.
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Always had a bit of an interest in spiderbros, but that got jumped up a bit when I heard that jumping spiders apparently exhibit different behaviour when they're aware that they're being watched? Can anyone tell me more about this? Did a quick search and generally all I get is "they act differently."
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>>2364175
Also I spent $5 total on that tank interior for the grout to cover the foam. Hand carved out of shit I had laying around.

>>2364191
This isn't the first time he's killed something and he put a ton of money into a 3ft by 3ft tall terrarium that looks fantastic but his sheer lack of knowledge about his animals has been disastrous.
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>>2364202
My friend, I only have this to tell you.

Walk up to you brother in law and tell him you love him, then, knock him unconscious with a big copy of the tarantula keepers guide so that when he wakes up, he'll get a chance to read it.

Then, if that poor thing is still alive, take it, go on Arachnoboards, Fauna listings, or whatever and get its ass to a new home.

I mean, I'll be honest, I'm just kind of exaggerating for comedic effect here, but still, holy shit dude.
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>>2364195
>The background looks great, whats it made of?

Thanks, I carved out individual flat foam rock layers from some packing styrofoam that was in an old tv box, glued them together onto a piece of mdf baord, and coated it with grout several times. It took a few hours but cost relatively nothing and turned out nice. I have RGB LEDs to glue to the top of the hood to add more color than the white/blue option that hood light has. I originally planned to make my own topper with the rgb strips but I (my other housemates) felt more secure with a manufactured top.

Here's a progress photo after the first grouting.

I'd also like to thank my brother in law for ordering my current T by mistake and gifting it to me. Hope his survives. I don't think you can write $100 off on your taxes as a loss.
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How can I get over my fear of insects and arachnids. Just one glance of a medium sized bug in my house is enough to make my skin crawl and double my heart rate for 30 minutes
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>>2364279
found this dude in my yard, Just start going outside and working on stuff in your free time. Do some yard work and the more you come across stuff and realize that there are monster bugs everywhere you will start to not give a fuck.
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>>2364279
this>>2364284
Also, learn to interact with some of them (whenever it's safe, of course.) Take some time to observe them and watch them live their lives.
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>>2364279
Are you afraid of all sorts of bugs or only specific ones?
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P. guineensis female is finally old enough to mate. She's been releasing hormones the past few nights, so here we go.

Wish this brave little guy luck, he needs it. She's a feisty one.
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>>2364577
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I've been thinking about getting a set up for a tarantula in future and styling it like a dollhouse (stairs, table, cabinet, chairs, etc.) but I'm afraid it won't be conducive to a adequate given their need for places to hide and nest. Is there any way I can keep my motif without sacrificing the comfort of the rancho?
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>>2364662
personally, stairwells and anything multi-level can and will lead to injury.

This just my be my personal taste intruding, but if you wanna make things look comfy, I'd go more for the al naturale route, what with carved wood and stuff like >>2364175
>>2364183
Just not as high up of course.
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>>2364662
I just printed out some pictures of the roman coliseum and taped them on the outside of the terrarium. Simple, but it will look great when I add a tiny gladiator figure. Maybe a lion too.
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>>2364662
I mean as long as the tarantula still has a proper hide and a water bowl and/or substrate to dig in it couldn't care less about how you decorate. Just make sure there are no sharp edges where it could hurt itself when it falls.
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>>2364698
>yeee-haw
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what's the best tarantula tank available to buy?
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>>2364744
depends on the species, an arboreal need a different tank than a terrestrial needs a different tank than a burrowing species
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>>2364183
We'll they are know to go months without food or water but there is a 40/60 percent chance that it lived
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Cute af
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My friend is giving me a terrarium, (she had millipedes, now she doesn't). What should I put in this round mofo?
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>>2364698
nice!
Congrats, my heart stopped for a second when she punched him.
I like breeding mantids, but with agressive species, this is always the moment I´m most afraid of
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>>2364837
Yeah, he got lucky. She wasn't hungry at all but that girl has a death grip, she could easily kill him.

Their copulation lasts about 12 to 18 hours but I think he's safe now.

Now I just have to figure out what I'm going to do with the 500+ babies.
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>>2364831
I have no idea how big that is but you can probably put many terrestrial tarantula species into that thunderdome of ugliness.
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>>2364854
>how big
About 1.5' x 6"
Not sure if pic related is the same exact one, but it's round and has the mesh top.
>terrestrial tarantula
That's the plan. I'm just trying to decide which species I want in there.
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>>2364868
That's a lot bigger diameter than I thought, and the height is really low compared to that. Are you sure those are the right dimensions?
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>>2364871
Just by eyeballing it from memory. Seemed wider than a foot, less than two. Seemed around 6" tall give or take 2"
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>>2364879
>>2364871
Guess I was way off. Official dimensions look to be 10 3/8" x 5 1/2"

God I fucking hate imperial measurements.
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>>2364868
I'd advise you to go for a species that doesn't need much moisture. Since petboxes have such big ventilation holes it makes keeping any moisture impossible.
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>>2364884
It's actually taped up ATM from the previous owner. I was still thinking of something that likes it rather dry though, it's quite dry where I live during the winter.

Do you think it's large enough for a g Pulchripes?
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>>2364889
It would be big enough for a juvie/subadult but the depth seriously limits substrate and hide size. I'd say keep a smaller species or buy a juvie and then upgrade its enclosure when it gets too big.
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>>2364899
I was thinking I could put my Rosie in there too, and put something bigger in my 20 gallon that she's currently in. She's a subadult now, but do you think a full size Rosie would fit in there?
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>>2364909
Yeah, they are a more appropriate size. As long as it has a hide and a water dish it'll be just fine.
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>>2364914
Gotcha. Do you think a 20 gallon would be good for something the size of g Pulchripes?

Also, since you're here, and seem to be quite knowledgeable, what size of terrarium would be good for a t Blondi?
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>>2364917
Im not quite good with the imperial system but a 12x12 inch enclosure with enough depth for some substrate and a hide shoild be fine for a G.pulchripes.
T.blondi on the other hand would need something bigger, honestly i would say get a 20×40 plastic storage box or "very useful box" since a proper terrarium/viviarium is just not worth it at that point. Again. Depth should be enough for substrate and hide and since they get pretty big i'd get something deep and fill it up with a lot of substrate.
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>>2364927
Cool, thanks. I don't plan to have a T blondi anytime soon, but it's always been in the back of my mind.
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>>2364438
I'm mostly fearful of beetles, grasshopper looking things, spiders, and cockroaches.
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>>2364931
if you ever do think of getting a Theraphosa, get a stirmi. Much better behaved and much more forgiving to take care of.
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>>2364942
Alrighty, I will probably consult this thread anyways when I finally want to get a gigantic fuck-you-and-your-arachnophobia
spider
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>>2364951
good on ya, m8y
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>>2364941
I'd tell you to just...go outside. And wander around a bit. Don't stick to paths either (if that isn't too dangerous where you are). Pick a place and just stay still, or sit down and wait for 20, 30 minutes and just watch. I promise you no bug will even care if you're there, unless you sat down on some poor bumblebees nest.

I get some of my best images that way.

I think if you see them as just animals that do their own thing and really don't realize you exist instead of scary "invaders" the fear should go away.

Alternatively, get a tarantula. Yes, seriously.
As long as your arachnophobia isn't totally crippling (which I assume it isn't) this works 90% of the time from my limited observation. You wouldn't believe the amount of people that got into tarantulas because they initially wanted to cure their fear of spiders.
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>>2364956
mantids a lewd
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>>2364967
very
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>>2364956
Could you just stop spamming your shit video every thread?
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>>2364983
I've been OPing every one of these threads and I have not seen his vid once. What are you sperging about.
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>>2364983
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>>2364831
>they put a picture of an aquatic turtle on the cover
>implying
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>>2364941
Incremental process
start with pictures on the internet, learn about their anatomy and ecology
see if anyone you know own inverts or go see them in a petstore
own one, once you make it to that point its really easy to get over it
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So I was putzing around on bugs in cyberspace and I came across the little deco cube habitats he's selling
I saw you could stack them and thats pretty cool
I was thinking hissing cockroaches in the bottom (maybe, i know they dont need a lot of space but they're pretty big)
assassin bugs in the middle
and if I could get my hands on some opiliones that would be pretty neat

so I know about hissers, but anyone own assassins or opiliones? what kinds are common in the hobby/cool to own/where to get them
that sort of stuff
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>>2365144
I think the cubes are too tiny for everything you mentioned
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>>2365258
I mean i kind of figured as much, but I dont really know anything about keeping inverts

I do have an empty 10gallon though so Im looking for suggestions
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>>2365260
well, what are the dimensions of the 10 gallon?
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>>2365269
whatever a standard 10 gallon tank is
uh
20x10x12.5?
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Anyone in the field of entomology? Whats it like? I imagine its a lot of taxonomy work. I'm getting disillusioned with my major and robots will take everyones jobs in 10 years anyways.
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>>2365287
i briefly pursued it but ultimately didn't because:
1 most jobs are in ag and pest control and involve killing bugs and i like bugs

2 it was during the recession and there weren't a lot of jobs, period. seemed silly to limit myself to arthropods. kinda want to go back just for fun, now...get a master's in buggology
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>>2365311

From what I understand a huge amount of funding is in studying chemical properties of bugs for medicinal uses.

That seems kinda cool.
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>>2365271
Go and actually measure it. With inverts the dimensions are the important part, not the volume.

If the ones you wrote are correct you have a lot of options though. Anything you want in particular?
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>>2365287
You will get disillusioned with entomology too.
Straight up entomology is not really a thing anymore. If you want to work with insects you will have to do phylogeny, population genetics, bioinformatics and so on but ON insects, and that is something you can only specialize on much later.

Also you won't be hacking your way through dense jungles for 6 months a year. If you're lucky you can do that for maybe 2 months each year, the rest is standing in the lab or desk work.
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>>2365442
>If you want to work with insects you will have to do phylogeny, population genetics, bioinformatics and so on but ON insects, and that is something you can only specialize on much later.

i can still dig that
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>didn't properly seal the P. regius moms terrarium
>now there's tiny jumpers everywhere
>mfw
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>>2365477
Oh boy

Wish you luck capturing those, my man. Sounds like it's gonna be a pain in the ass
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>>2365481
I already got most of them.

They all run to the ceiling and they're really easy to spot because they're basically completely black but every time I look up there's one or two more.
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>>2364848
He didn't get away, she got him (._.)

He did his part I guess.
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>>2363817
Can anyone identify this little guy?
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>>2365665
Some sort of orb-weaver (family Araneidae), but that is a family of spiders with 3000+ species.

Your location would help.
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>>2365665
location pls
>>2365644
F
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>>2365644
Live by the D
Die by the V
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>>2365441
I was probably going to with hissers, they seem simple and fairly handleable
looking at P. Vanwaerbeki or G. Oblogonota
mmmaybe G. Grandidieri

otherwise I just kind of lurk the thread to see what might catch my eye
I also have a bit of interest in assassins or opiliones but I know that those probably shouldn't be held ever unless I can potentially find one of the larger opiliones species
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>>2365732
>>2365733
Jujuy, Argentina.
Sorry.
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Any of you guys own a vietnamese centipede? Didn't even think of ever having one but the one at the store I was browsing through was really beautiful. I've been reading up on them and was curious about experiences with them and how you manage them for cage cleaning and whatnot since they're supposed to be aggressive and neurotic.
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>>2365811
As an addendum I'm not intending to jump into owning one or anything since I'm extremely inexperienced with inverts in general but it's something I'd like to own at a future date when I'm less green. They just never struck me as a something to keep like spiders or scorpions and I'm one of those people that obsessively looks into anything and everything that I take an interest to.
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Question for any of you guys who may be able to help
I've got a few black and blue death feigning beetles, but one of them recently has stopped moving entirely. He's not dead, every so often he twitches his legs. It's just freaking me out because he won't walk or move around at all for the past few days. Does anyone know why this could be? I can't think of anything that would have hurt it, and the rest of the beetles are all fine. Thanks if anyone can help, I'm worried about my babu
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>>2365749
Good choice, hissers are easy and fun.
I don't know of any species of Opiliones that really gets very large, and there are none in the hobby that I know of that get much larger than 1cm in body length.
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>>2365811
>>2365814
1. Keep enclosure moist and warm
2. Throw in springtails or woodlice to avoid mold
3. Make sure the enclosure is escape proof because they're escape artists
4. Get some red LED lights so you can see them at night
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>>2365975
yo pede guy, have you gotten your first T yet?
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>>2365811
>Any of you guys own a vietnamese centipede?
Several. As far as centipedes go they're one of the most vicious, nervous species you can get.

> and how you manage them for cage cleaning and whatnot since they're supposed to be aggressive and neurotic.
Isopods and springtails in the substrate do 99% off my cleanup work. I only take out the large leftover bits after they've been stripped clean because I don't like the look.

>>2365814
They are not hard to keep at all as long as you are appropriately careful. Never put your hand in there. Buy two pairs off long pincettes (they like to run up them so you have to drop it, so you need a 2nd pair to retrieve them).

Or just start with a less aggressive and fast species, something like Ethmostigmus trigonopodus, Scolopendra hermosa or Alipes grandidieri/multicostis.

>>2365975
>1. Keep enclosure moist and warm
Not too warm though, above 27C/80F can quickly be fatal for most species. They're bottowm dwellers, they like it cool.

Other than that, spot on.

>>2366349
That wasn't me but yes! Several. I did get my Avics and now have a Poecilotheria too. Very cute desu
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>>2366380
and here, just as proof that they aren't all like S. subspinipes

I would still strongly advise against doing this unless you know your animals very well. I've had this guy for over 3 years now, there are others of the same species where I wouldn't do this.
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>>2366391
It's funny how animals with central nervous systems this simple somehow still manage to have their own individual personalities, rudimentary as they are.

This little girl for example won't leave her fake plants alone. I think she likes them more than her actual hide. She has the stupidest mood swings too.

She also seems to recognize my touch, if I'm not utterly mistaken/delusional. When I pet her legs and hold her, she's passive as can be, but the last time someone else wanted to hold her, she just wouldn't have it. Maybe it's just coincidence, I dunno.
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>>2366380
>Poecilotheria too

Fooken noice. What species?
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>>2366407
formosa

about 5cm body length now, I think she should be adult, right?`

I don't see much of her, she has her little cork tube and generally only comes out to shit on the freshly cleaned glass. Maybe I shouldn't have fed her just days after I got her, but I couldn't resist and wanted to see if she was feeling well enough to eat. Well, she did and now she's fat and happy and not going anywhere.

But man, pokies are cool. I already want more.
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I've been keeping a grasshopper for a couple of days or so and I came across this foamy stuff this morning in its cage. There is also some white foam coming out of its abdomen. Anybody know what it is?
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>>2366434
Cum party
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>>2366434
is it hard or soft?
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>>2366434
I don't know if grasshoppers produce ootheca, but that is what it looks like.
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>>2366434
>>2366439
>>2366440
I think it might be spermetaphores.. idk a lot about grasshoppers but thats kind of what a centipede's sperm looks like
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>>2366440
I prodded it with a toothpick and it seemed soft and hollow.

>>2366446
I think you might be right. Thought it might have been eggs at first but this seems more likely. Thanks everybody for all the insight.
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>>2366455
>>2366446
Holy fuck, I didn't actually think I (>>2366439) was right
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>>2366455
What kind of grasshopper? what are you keeping him in?

>>2366463
lol good job
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>>2366428
At least you get to see her eat. Felicia here is unbelievably picky and the only reason I know she's eaten is that I've seen her crap all over the enclosure walls.

Maybe she's scared of the dubias I'm giving her? They're all about an inch long and her legspan is around 4.5'. Are they too big for her?
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>>2364744
Not a tank usually
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>>2366557
>At least you get to see her eat.
Yeah, once.

Since then I've only seen her feet (which are adorable) and her butt.
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>>2366606
forgot to add: I try to feed nothing that is larger than the body of the spider, preferably about the size of the prosoma

how big are those dubias in relation to her body?

also you should always experiment with different foods, they have preferences too
try crickets, locusts, worms, whatever and see if she likes something in particular
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>>2366608
>how big are those dubias in relation to her body?
They're about half her body size, about as big as her opithosoma.

>
also you should always experiment with different foods, they have preferences too
try crickets, locusts, worms, whatever and see if she likes something in particular

K, I'll try it, I just tried dubias first because they have such high protein content.
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>>2366612
>I just tried dubias first because they have such high protein content.
Yeah but they also fight like hell and take ages to die. Could be kinda scary for a spider desu.

The locusts just kinda...give up.
Crickets seem more like a snack to them.
And worms are some sort of curiosity that they have to really "think" about before trying to eat it.

It's kinda fun watching them figure out different sorts of food. At least with my centipedes that is, but from what I've seen so far spiders seem very similar.


Also did I ever tell you what a beautiful spider you have? She looks so fluffy and soft.
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>>2366618
>Also did I ever tell you what a beautiful spider you have? She looks so fluffy and soft.

Oh you have no idea. She's just about the softest thing you've ever felt. And it seems she's mellowing out with every day I spend with her. Shame she's gotta be housed at the school now, but according to my agreement with the facilities head, I still own her. It's just for sake of housing manager BS that she's not going to live with me in the apartment.

On my way to talk to him (facilities head) about it, I brought her in a small critter keeper to show him what she looked like. She made a ton of friends on the way and people couldn't get enough of her velvety legs (if they were brave enough to touch her). She was surprisingly calm and relaxed for what was going on (being transported in a small enclosure and being touched by at least six other people). If it weren't for the fact that she was so calm during the enclosure transfer, I would've made sure no one would have touched her.
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I found these in the tub I had put a few pupae in to eclose in peace.
I have been trying to breed moths for ages with no success and it finally happens by chance
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Are these worth the price? They're on jamiestarantulas.com.
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>>2366755
They're good or all around observation and specializing ventilation. Too bad they cost an arm and a leg.

It's a shame because if you want ventilation that suits an animal who needs it a certain way (For example, a T. Stirmi needs cross ventilation so that the air circulates, but thehumidity does not escape), your only other alternative is a plastic storage tote, and then you can't see you spider as easily.
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>>2366755
If you have the money they're great.

That's something you really only put your favorite animals in, together with a nice habitat appropriate setup with live plants and nice LED lighting. A real display piece for the living room imo.

Also beware, acrylic scratches very easily.
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>>2365644
Nigger this is why you keep her preoccupied with food so he can do his thing with less risk. Even if she doesn't take it right away having something substantial to eat on standby when she makes a move for the male does a world of wonders.
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Alright, it's been fun watching her crawl around and be cute, but I've got a bad feeling about how she sticks to the edges and tries going for the top.

I just changed out her substrate and all her surroundings have been re-arranged. Is she just scared? unsure of what to do?

Her tank reads 775/70" F. That doesn't seem too tepid. What's making her want to escape so much?
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>>2366959
75%/70"

whoops
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as promised, here are a few S. denticulata ooths

pics of the female later
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Hey guys I currently have two snails that live in a 1 gallon teeny lil fish tank that's shaped like a triangle and probably a foot tall. They have a cuttlefish bone, some kind of grass actually ingrowing inside the tank, some branches with leaves on it for decoration (looks like tiny trees). And new fruits and veggies whenever the old ones start to go bad. I water them about every day or two or whenever they seem a bit inactive. They seem to be doing fine and they've laid eggs that I'm going to release into an area I know already has snails and animals to control the snail population as well as limited snailly resources ect so I know I won't fuck anything up. Could any of you please tell me if there's anything else I could do to enrich my snails lives? I was thinking about moving them into a huge cheese puff jar once the babies hatch and maybe switching from regular dirt to coconut fibers (I need a second opinion on that one too)and adding more climbing branches and some rocks to improve. Does anyone else have any regular garden snails? Any good snail products? I love snails so much /an/.
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>>2366838
Do you think I didn't do that?

Besides I can't watch them for 24+ hours. That's how long the copulation takes in that species. I can't anticipate the exacts moment they separate.
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I thought P. metallica was supposed to be rather shy and don't come out much?

The two slings I have both come out regularly and even sit outside duing the day sometimes. Are they feeling unwell, am I doing something wrong?

They're not wandering around so I think they conditions are ok.
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>>2366959
If I were you I'd ditch the screen tip and get an acrylic one. Is also ditch the hygrometer and just have a thermometer nearby. Then put it in the dark and forget about it.
What sp?
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>>2367156
Aphonopelma seemanni
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Are there any tanks suited for assassin bugs or is it better to custom build one with like super tight flyscreen to avoid freshly hatched nymphs escaping?
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>>2367035
Wow they're tiny. How many eggs do you think are in there?
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>>2363817
I want a horseshoe crab, a couple of them. I think they're adorable and they remind me of trilobites
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>>2367170
The nymphs aren't that small actually. A normal terrarium is just fine. Standard fly screen is also completely sufficient.
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>>2367174
they get huge though, imagine the aquarium you'd need
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They eat small Drosophila, thank fuck.

I was kinda worried but I should know by now that jumpers not only go for prey larger than themselves, they actually seem to prefer it.
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>>2367197
I know, but it'll totally be worth it.
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>>2367171
I'd guess about 5 to 10, maybe 15 max
they should hatch in the next few weeks
I'm expecting more to be laid soon

Also, are you the guy who wanted to know how big they get?
pic is an adult female

sorry for the shitty pic, but I still have no new camera (fucking student life, always short on money)
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>>2367216
>>2367174
They need a marine species tank with only sand.
No reef or anything like that.

Sounds pretty boring desu.
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>>2367341
Might as well just get a 5 gal triops tank instead of a couple hundred gal saltwater for horseshoes.
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>>2367341
Plenty of pretty looking floating macroalgae out there, and species to inhabit it.
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>>2367341
You can take em out of water tho and try and play with it
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>>2365925
>my babu
Sally Brown pls
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>>2367226
>I'd guess about 5 to 10, maybe 15 max
Interesting. So they're like Metallyticus in that regard. With so few offspring prices might stay quite high if they ever make it into the hobby

>they should hatch in the next few weeks
>I'm expecting more to be laid soon
Keep us updated on them.

In other news: All my M. splendidus are now L6 and the P. guineensis female looks about ready to lay her first ooth.

>Also, are you the guy who wanted to know how big they get?
Yes

>pic is an adult female
So about 3cm? Smaller than I thought desu, but that just means they need less space.

Do yours have the pink/purple spots? From the pictures I've seen it seems like some have them and some don't.
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>>2363817
I got 3 little strawberry hermit crabs today, so far they seem pretty happy in their habitat.
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>>2367524
>So about 3cm?
yes, without wings about 26mm

>that just means they need less space
They need even less space than you think, because you can keep them in groups
Level of cannibalism is a bit higher than with P. paradoxa tho, but it gets lower, the bigger they get

>Keep us updated on them.
will do

>Do yours have the pink/purple spots? From the pictures I've seen it seems like some have them and some don't.
yes, but my stupid phone isn't able to pick the colors up properly..
you can see the dots a bit better in this pic, but the color is way off

>All my M. splendidus are now L6 and the P. guineensis female looks about ready to lay her first ooth.
nice
I was told that M. splendidus are adult in "L7", is that true?
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>>2367634
did you have other Coenobita sp. before?
because C. perlatus are pretty hard to keep
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>>2367634

thats a fine looking crab. And look at that fancy shell
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>>2367670
No, I've been reading guides on them though. What makes them so difficult?
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>use sweep net on some tall grass by a lake
>bag dozens of smallish diptera of various species
>pop any predators though the bag
>???
>free mantis food
This is the first food they've gotten that's larger than a fruit fly, amd as expected: they went psycho.

These things are such good first inverts
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>>2367741
*through
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>>2367704
they do not tolerate sudden swings in humidity and it should NEVER drop below 75% (as with all terrestrial hermit crabs)
They also need REALLY deep substrate, because they bury even deeper than the othe species.
they also prefer the playsand to moult in, not coco coir, as the other species.

They also need more fish in their diet and the saltwaterbowl should be deep enough for them to fully submerge in the water (like all Coenobita)

they also often just die after a few months, and noone knows why
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My Camponotus rufipes Queen has started laying her new batch of eggs. Guessed it would be this week or the next. Those are a lot of eggs and all those larva are gonna be hungry once they hatch.

I expect the pupa to hatch soon too putting the colony at 1 Queen and 12 Workers.

Anyway not bad progress at all considering I only have this colony for 20 days now.
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>>2367922
>they also often just die after a few months, and noone knows why
Aren't hermit crabs really hard/a lot of effort to breed in captivity? If most of them are wild caught that'd explain sudden deaths.
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>>2367944
yep, but it's especially a problem with C. perlatus
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>>2367158
I'd just make sure she has some deep slight moist sub arou d 8 inches and a hide. Maybe a starter burrow. Once she is settled in (could be a week, could be a month) she will calm down a lot. With my burrowers my philosophy is that if I can't see them then they are happy.

I've heard horror stories about Ts losing legs in screen tops like that though
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>>2367663
>They need even less space than you think, because you can keep them in groups
Wow, nice. That cuts down on space and maintenance extremely.
>Level of cannibalism is a bit higher than with P. paradoxa tho, but it gets lower, the bigger they get
I wouldn't take my chances like that but I don't know how many you actually have.

>yes, but my stupid phone isn't able to pick the colors up properly..
>you can see the dots a bit better in this pic, but the color is way off
I would love to take some pictures of them with my macro setup, I bet you could do all sorts of interesting things with the transparency

>I was told that M. splendidus are adult in "L7", is that true?
I was about to say no but I just came home, checked up on them and found my first adult male. So yes, that's totally true. This also means I'll have babies a lot sooner than expected. I was counting on L8/9. Oh boy, I'm excited now.
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>>2368095
quick correction: males of course have one molt less than females, so he was L5 and became adult at "L6", which means the females will be "L7", in about a month or so I guess
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>>2367741
anything that moves really fast and jerky makes them go nuts

also try some stuff that tries to fly away, like hoverflies, they're gonna love that
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>>2368031
>I'd just make sure she has some deep slight moist sub arou d 8 inches and a hide. Maybe a starter burrow.

She's got all that, though she seems to alternate between using her hide and hanging out by her fake plants. That's just her normal behavior though.

So yeah, I'll wait it out. See if she calms down. She's still retaining her mellowness which has taken weeks to develop, and he fact that she's still docile around me and my touch is admirable. Here's hoping she'll settle in nicely.
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Thinking of getting my first t soon, I'm well versed in husbandry(have 4 snakes).

Was thinking of either a P. Regalis or a Avic Versicolor.
Which should I get first?
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>>2368366
Arboreal Ts are shit desu.
Also not good for beginners.
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>>2368366
>Was thinking of either a P. Regalis or a Avic Versicolor.
>Which should I get first?

if you're generally inexperienced with inverts, I'd go with the Avic.

If you do have experience, pull a pede guy and get the Poky.
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>L4 praying mantis posted up on lid of container, upside down
>oh cool must be molting
>leave him there
>two days pass, still in same spot. Getting a little worried
>come home from work and hes on the bottom of container, motionless, still alive
What happened? Is my little buddy dying? Is he stuck in a molt? Did i do something wrong? Im so sad i dont wanna lose him
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I just got my first b smithi on thursday 27th and the guy in the store told me to use half of the substrate in the package but this renders a depth of only 4 cm (1.6 inches). The cage is 30x30x30cm (11.8inches) and the tarantula is about 4 cm long. Should I use the rest of the substrate right now or should i wait for it to get used to its new home first?

pic is the cage i have
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>>2368551
This is what my cage looks now. The tarantula is between the bottom of the cup and the wall, will it hide in the jar if i make the distance from ground to roof in it smaller?
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>>2368127
Dont count on it always being docile. Sometimes Ts are docile and sometimes they aren't. It has nothing to do with how much you handle them. I recommend not touching your spiders but you do you. Hope you enjoy the the hobby:)
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>>2368556
It will hide wherever once it settles In.theres not really much to do to convince it where to go aside from just offering it a hide. It's good practice to only allow 1.5-2x the spiders leg span between the substrate and the top of the cage. This eliminates the chance of a fall. those types of enclosures are shitty for terrestrials desu. Also it is better to offer a hide without a bottom so that the have to opportunity to dig and make it just how they want it. Lights are not recommended and if that's a heat lamp it will probs kill your spider. If you're comfy without a blanket they will be fine. What species?
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>>2368636 nvm, B.smithi got it
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>>2368634
>Dont count on it always being docile
Oh no, I know. I only touch her if she's in a good mood. What I'm saying is that she seems to alternate between being passive and sweet/skittish nervous, as is true to form for her species. It's just that when I first got her it was 70/30 skittish/docile. now it's nearly 80/20, docile's favor, hence why I'm starting to think she might be getting used to the big lipid covered thing that likes to stroke her legs.

But yeah, either way I know the risks, and I don;t try touching her more than twice a week. I just love how velvety she is
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I want a pet leggy boy but I've never had inverts before. Which is the easiest to take care of and how can I get one if I'm not in the US and most of the bug sites don't ship to me?
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>>2368368
Second
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>>2368636
ok thanks, it appears I got ripped off at the pet shop then. It's 20*C in my appartment. I guess I will hunt cages that arent as high online then
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>>2368650
Unfortunately a lot if pet store employees don't know about spiders and just follow what the in store care sheets say...and they typically say sell everything you can lol. If you're not super into aesthetics you can put them in just about any clear container that's 3x their leg span. Can be larger but smaller is nice for ease of food monitoring and maintenance
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>>2366380
Thanks anon. Only reason I specified vietnamese was that was the only species the store had. Weird they would keep such an aggressive species when there's easier ones, especially for a general pet store and not a niche one.
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>>2368544
Are you the guy with the 10 Tenodera sinensis?

We told you m8, it just happens. That's why you start with 10 or more.
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>>2368368
>Arboreal Ts are shit desu.
You're shit. You filthy dirt munching terrestrial fanboy.

>>2368556
What >>2368636 said. And yeah, you just experienced the sort of "advice" you get at pet stores. Unless it's some local specialist shop that's run by an actual enthusiast do not EVER buy animals or get advice about animals at pet stores.

If you want to keep it, fill that terrarium up with substrate as far as the little doors allow and get a hide that is open at the bottom. A piece of bark also does it. Also I suspect you will choose one that's way too big, lots of beginners do that. The tarantulas wants to fit in there as snugly as possible, so get one where she can just squeeze her body into. Just high enough that she can feel the ceiling. I promise you that will make her feel safe and comfortable and she'll get a huge "confidence" boost. Also lower container, as already pointed out.

>>2368650
Well if you're short on money now after getting ripped off any plastic box with a secure lid will do. You probably don't want that if that's your only spider though. There are really cheap and nice so called "spider cubes" if you're in europe, 20, 30 or 40cm cubic glass terrariums with a high lip for substrate. They should cost exactly as much as their length is, so 20 bucks for the 20x20x20 and so on. I don't know how big your spider is but I'd get a 30 or 40 cube.
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>>2368732
Also, yes a high powered heat lamp like that will roast your spider in no time. They're not good at regulating their own temperature in captitivity. In nature they just dig down when it gets too hot but your substrate will pretty much just be the same temperature as the air in the terrarium.

20C is a bit low imo though. I mean it's fine, your spider will be ok but she will eat very little and be rather passive. I'd say around 25C is ideal but you can achieve that with a shitty 10 or 15W halogen desk lamp. That also won't heat up the entire air so much that your spider can't get away from the heat if she wants to.

And lastly: It would be a shame to let that nice terrarium go to waste. Once you have her rehoused you can put a lot of other cool stuff in there that also won't be expensive or need much maintenance.
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>>2368677
>Weird they would keep such an aggressive species when there's easier ones, especially for a general pet store and not a niche one.

S. subspinipes are almost always wild caught and there simply are a shitton of them, and not only in Asia. They've invaded pretty much every rainforest on earth at this point, they're almost like bycatch when people are going for tarantulas. Also they sometimes get them from food markets in Asia. The other species are collected more specifically and not very often.

>>2368640
Certain species of terrestrial old world tarantulas, phasmids, mantids, hissing roaches, scorpions are all super easy and beginner friendly. You have a ton of options, you're gonna need to specify.

>how can I get one if I'm not in the US and most of the bug sites don't ship to me?
Well, where are you? Maybe someone from here can help.

Also the best place to get inverts is local conventions. Even if they're advertised for reptiles there will be inverts there too. Next best place is forums and classifieds.
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Anybody go to the Minnesota Reptile Show and Sale?

Or any other reptile show run by Cold Blooded expos?

They have a May 7 expo and I'm wondering if it's worth the 90 minute drive.
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>>2368737
I meant centipedes. They're the invert that interests me the most.

I'm in South Africa. People have told me to go out and catch a wild one because we have a few centipede species over here that are kept in the hobby, but that would be cruel.
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>>2368095
>I would love to take some pictures of them with my macro setup, I bet you could do all sorts of interesting things with the transparency
I bet
Damn, I need a new cam as soon as possible

>found my first adult male
nice, congratulations, m8
hopefully you'll get an adult female in time.
Do you know how long Metallyticus live, once they are adult?
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>>2368773
No idea, but the guy I got them from said there'd be no problem with males not living long enough. I believe him too, the females are now one molt away from being adult and the genders are of about equal size.

Also what a gorgeus lady you have there. Got any plans to breed them? Prices for H. coronatus have for some reason gone up in the past few years.
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>>2368764
South Africa has a few big guys, yes. I don't know if their range extends that far but you might get Ethmostigmus species there.

Easiest pede to take care of is probably Scolopendra subspinipes. Sorry for my ignorance but does SA have any tropical areas? If so there's a good chance you have S. subspinipes there. They are very aggressive and fast though, probably not good for a beginner.

Ethmostigmus are slow and more docile, as are Scolopendra hermosa, both are super easy as well. Alipes species are also total cowards but they require a bit more attention.

Also shouldn't most sellers in europe also ship to you? I'm not sure a centipede is gonna survive a week long trip though. It might actually be better to go outside and collect them yourself. I don't see how it is cruel either. Pretty much all pedes you can get at the moment are wild caught anyway and I'm not aware of any that are endangered.
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>>2368820
Wait, does that chigger have parasites of its own on it?
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>>2368820
Looks very hungry, or dehydrated. Normally they're round and plump.

>>2368832
Everything has parasites m8.
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>>2368834
that's still odd.

It's like thinking one's lice have lice.
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>>2368951
Most parasites do have parasites of their own, and some of those have parasites too.
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>>2368961
That's disgusting but intriguing.
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>>2368962
Look up epiparasites, the rabbit tunnel goes pretty far.
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>>2368966
isn't hyperparasites the correct term?
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>>2368732
>You're shit. You filthy dirt munching terrestrial fanboy.

Found the mad tree nigger.

Burrowers > Terrestrials > Arboreals
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>>2368970
t. mad "oh look, this one is a slightly different shade of brown" sandraker
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>>2368806
Shit really? I had no idea they were wild caught. I thought there was established breeding stock worldwide or something.

I've seen Ethmostigmus once or twice while out mushroom picking. We don't have subspines though, those inhabit Asia and Oceania if I'm correct. I've heard Ethmostigmus is a good pede, but I have no idea how long the local subspecies will grow so I'm a bit scared of bringing home something that will outgrow my tank.

Thanks for your help, anon!
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>>2368991
Heard you talking shit about sand.
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>All this shitposting based on fuzzy spooder preferences
All we need is some insufferable tripfags and we'll have a real general.
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>>2368997
>b-but look, if you squint real hard you can almost see some color

o i am laffin

>>2369025
We're just having some fun m8. There is no actualy shitposting in this thread, yet.
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>>2369042
Step it up treefag
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>>2369049
Your turn.
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>>2369042
>can handle the bantz
I know that m808, I'm actually complimenting how well invert General is coming together.
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>>2369052
We're going for maximum aesthetics now.
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>>2369058
Now you fucked up.

Arboreals are just naturally more aesthetic with their shapely legs and elegant posture. You've got nothing.
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>>2369063
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>>2369064
>>2369063
lmao gay ass weak posture legs.

bet they can't even dig with those.
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>>2369077
>bet they can't even dig with those.
Why would superior arboreals want to dig in the dirt?

They watch from above as your peasant spiders dig in the dirt, where they belong.

You ain't got shit on these A E S T H E T I C S
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>>2369118
step it up spiderfags
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lol someone's jealous
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>>2368991
>>2368997
>>2369042
>>2369049
>>2369052
>>2369058
>>2369063
>>2369064
>>2369077
>>2369118

I'm a mycology guy so I don't really know shit about spiders but these are all breathtaking. Thanks for the pics.
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>>2369147
can you ID some fungus pics for my college assignment?

fungi are technically invertebrates, so it fits in the thread
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>>2369147

I am writing a screenplay about an obsessed foreign villain who kidnaps a well educated mycologist and forces him to find a way to breed morels in mass quantities.

To invite you I would like in my basement for some coffee to talk about it. My studio contract has a non-disclosure clause so you must tell no one.
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>>2369179
I'll need some pictures of the top of the pileus (cap), the entire stipe (i.e. dig it up, don't cut it at the base), the hymenium (underside of the pileus), and the spore print colors. If you have access to a microscope, some pictures of the spores would be ideal. Even then, mushroom identification via pictures is kind of a shit show, since some details like smell, taste, stickiness, etc. are important when identifying the species. But I'll take a look, sure.

>>2369180
>morels

Good fucking luck m8. Your best bet would be to plant some apple trees in your front yard, then set your house on fire, then pray that some spores float your way.
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>>2368726
Nah i dont usually post in here. I ordered two about a month ago
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>>2369184
>>2369180
Hey, I am another mycologist, and am researching morels right now. Specifically growing them.
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>>2369213
How are you treating them in terms of ecology? My knowledge on them is pretty shit compared to agarics and boletes, but as I understand it their mycorrhizal associations are all over the place depending on the species, and sometimes they decide to say fuck it and just go for burn sites as saprobes.
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>>2369184
I really don't think I need it down to the species species level..

This was found in an oak forest under a downed oak (or elm) log (missouri)
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>>2369217
Those are the basics. Ecology-wise it is best to drop species classifications and move towards clades, esculenta (yellow), elata(black), and rufobrunnea(blushing). The elata clade are the most saprobic and the only ones people have had any success with in the context of controlled repeatable cultivation. The chinese have pioneered an outdoor growing method using their local strain of Morchella importuna, and they get (are claiming) 3000kg per acre yields. Shit is ridiculous.

The burn morels are really weird, and go through pretty intense environmental triggers like swings in pH from ash, and the other effects of the fire. I have been working with our local PNW strain of importuna, and the hope is to get indoor cultivation going. No-one has done that yet. It exists on woodchips in my region, so it is a pretty pure saprobe.
I am using field work mostly to establish the variables I need to control, and cross-referencing with existing culture studies. I would post photos of some agar plates I have going, but the files are too large
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>>2369229
Oh, that's a neat one. Looks like some species of Xylaria, though it looks substantially thicker than any xylaria species I've ever seen. I'm not too experienced with club fungi, so maybe the other mycobro can get a better bead on it.
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>>2369229
Xylaria species, perhaps Xylaria polymorpha.
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>>2368801
>no problem with males not living long enough
sounds great, I love species where I don't have to worry about that

>what a gorgeus lady you have there. Got any plans to breed them?
thanks
Yes, I'desperately trying to find males for her ever since I got her in L4
god damnit, I usually always have far too many males (e.g. currently Gongylus 11:3, Phyllocrania 6:2)

Why the hell are Hymenopus so rare nowadays? A few years ago they were all over the place.

also, the dark blotch on the last Sinomantis female worries me.. I hope she lays a few more ooths before dying.
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>>2369135
fucking kek

that actually made me laugh pretty hard, thanks anon

>>2369253
Yeah, they were all over the place and super cheap, now they're quite expensive again. I have no idea why that is either.

Is the dark spot on the wing or on the abdomen? I wouldn't worry if it's on the wing.
Also that mantis somehow actually looks asian. Look at its sly visage.
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>>2369209
How big were they when you ordered them? At L5 or so the random death stuff is usually over, but if you get them smaller than that I would always get at least 5.
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Found this in my soil sample.

1 to 2 mm long.

New Zealand.

Pseudoscorpion?
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>>2369401
Yes.
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>>2369401
Yes. Turn it over on the other side and you might be able to see the venom canal in the pedipalps.
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>>2369402
>>2369403
Nice, thank you for the confirmation.
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>>2369147
And to think we both held back the best ones in case we needed them for later.
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>>2369408
I mean I didn't even have to post P. metallica
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>>2369408
>>2369409
What gorgeous creatures.
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Both my """Ybyrapora""" diversipes slings have molted now. One is turquoise, one is blue.

How come?
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>>2369420
I've had people ask me if some of my tarantulas are real while standing right in front of them.

There are some incredibly pretty spiders. I still don't get how people can be afraid of these fuzzballs. I totally get the fear of other spiders that can look quite spooky, but tarantulas? Nah, just look at them.
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>>2369435
I guess people let ignorant fear rule over what they see with their eyes. Even while many at the uni have told me that my T is beautiful, they still fear her terribly.

Then, you have the guys who buy Ts to help with their arachnophobia, only to find they've cured their fear of tarantulas, but not all spiders at large.

On a side note, she's been shedding hairs in her hide, guys, this might be it....
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>>2369435
I get asked the same, it doesn't helps that this jumping spiders are only few milimeters and almost impossible to see.
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>>2369600
It's so unfair that they're so tiny.

Imagine if we had jumpers as big as tarantulas.
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>>2369776
nah 'cause then they would be eating my dog instead of annoying things like roaches and flies.
Jumpers are 10/10 pest control crew as is.
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>>2369776
Some jumpers get to pretty comfy sizes though.
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Does anyone know how often isopods molt? I started a small colony of A. nasatum about a month ago. They just had some babies, so I added crushed eggshells for calcium. They all swarmed the eggshells like crazy, even the babies. I'm wondering if that month was too long for them go without a good calcium source.
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>notice that one of my mantises is ignoring his fruit flies this afternoon
>disturb him a bit to scoop them out
>three hours later
how did he even fit in his previous skin
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>>2369400
Aw man that explains it. I think it was about to be L5
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>>2363817
Found some freshwater shrimp in a nearby lake, I've kidnapped some and made them my pets.
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>>2370094
afaik they don't need particularly high water quality to live, but temperature and aeration might be an issue
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>>2370094
nice amphipods
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And there it is. She has to be hungry after that.

>>2369973
Wow, they grow fast. What instar are they now?
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>>2369884
I don't know how often but I'd just give them a constant source of calcium at all times. I mean if anyone knows when and how much calcium they need its themselves, so I'd just let them regulate their own intake.
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Who /millipede/ here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud-bV9kkyso
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>>2370200
Not I
thanks california wildlife regulations
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>>2370212
Aren't you allowed to own ANY millipede or just the A. gigas?
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>>2370212
Where I live I could literally just walk outside, pick up an adult A. gigas and keep it as a pet. Too bad I have a crippling phobia of them. It's weird, I love watching videos of them but I can't be around one without wanting to piss myself.

>inb4 how come you have internet in Africa
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>>2370095
I don't have any tank supplies, so I'll probably have to do daily water changes until I get paid. I'm going to use lake water due to how close it is. I also have a leech in there but he's shy
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>>2370192
I'm not sure how instars are counted (I read something about how they molt while hatching or something), but this is the fourth time I've seen it molt.
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>>2370200
I do
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>>2370267
so L5 then
The one time while hatching is usually not counted
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>>2370267
There's a bit of a debate if the first one should be counted or not. I don't, which means the mantis you actually see after hatching would be L1.

So you're are L5 then.
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>>2370277
That's a cool millipede! Species/size?
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>>2370243
>Too bad I have a crippling phobia of them
what about the little leggy turds freaks you out? I think they're super cute, also it feels funny when they walk on you

>>2370277
wow that's pretty

what species?
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>>2370300
>>2370302
Aphistogoniulus hova (often sold as A. corallipes)
about 12cm

pretty hard to breed, but I hope I'll be able to do it
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>>2370192
Congrats! What's the incubation time on them eggs?
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>>2370359
6 to 8 weeks at 30C apparently. She has placed the ooth where it is pretty much exactly 25 though, she totally had the option to go for a warmer spot but she didn't, so I'm wondering if I should incubate at 25 instead.
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>>2370302
I have no idea man. I think it's the legs or the segments but I doubt that because I have no problem with caterpillars, earthworms or even centipedes. It's one of those bizarre phobias that you have since birth, the way people are afraid of cotton balls and shit. I look at photos to desensitise myself but it does nothing.

Also only certain sizes set me off. If it's shorter than 1.5 inches I'll happily pick it up. If it's even a few millimeters longer I'll have an instant panic attack.

It's a pity though, because they are cute and really cool inverts in general.
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is honey good for sick mantises? While hanging upside-down the abdomen was so deflated and flat that it crimped over. It was straight and cylindrical only a few days ago!

I sprayed the enclosure, but it doesn't seems to recognize food or water.
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My new tarantula (b smithi, 4cm/1.7 inches long) sits on the glass all the time, is it going through a phase or is something wrong? I have had it for 4 days

i am this guy >>2368556
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>>2370671
don't give straight up honey, dilute it a bit, but yes, it's good for them to regain their appetite

post pictures of the mantis, turned up abdomen is normal for many species

also it might just be molting soon, it's not gonna eat until after that's done
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>>2370727
have you changed anything about the enclosure yet?

is the substrate wet?

also it's Brachypelma hamorii now, they just revised the genus: http://www.publish.csiro.au/IS/IS16023
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>>2370733
The substrate was wet so i put it in a cloth and squeezed a lot of water out of it, now the surface layer of it is very dry but not like sand"dust. I threw more substrate in the cup"cave" so it would be more like "squeeze to get in" for the spider. I spray the walls and ground with water like three times a day for moisture. The heat lamp is 25watt. I also have the possibility of changing to a terrarium with the opening on top, should I change as soon as possible or should I wait until it eats before changing??
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>>2370736
the dimensions for the new terrarium is 28*28*25cm/~11*11*10 inches
https://www.7h-zoo.se/product.html/terrarium-topp-20-liter?category_id=110
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>>2363817
holy shit look at what I found
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>>2370739
I would not advocate placing fuzzy spider on your canine. Bad results for both parties.
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>>2370736
>I threw more substrate in the cup"cave" so it would be more like "squeeze to get in" for the spider.
That's good but don't make the opening too small, she still needs to find it.

>I spray the walls and ground with water like three times a day for moisture
Don't. They like it dry. Spraying once a week is more than enough. Just make sure the water bowl is full and clean at all times.

>The heat lamp is 25watt.
Have you actually measured the temperatures inside? They really don't need or want it very warm. They might come from an arid biotope but there they can burrow and hide to avoid the heat. Also it actually gets pretty cold at night in the desert, they can handle low temps much better than high temps. More than 25C is overkill.

>I also have the possibility of changing to a terrarium with the opening on top, should I change as soon as possible or should I wait until it eats before changing??
I'm sure she would appreciate more substrate but it's not critical as long as she has some place to retreat to.
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>>2370746
>temperature
should i meassure in the shadow or in the light?

>moisture
i know that adoult spiders like it dry but i also read that spiderlings are bad at containing their mosture, i just want to be sure it is old enough

>change terrarium
I can save about 30$ by changing, i still can return the one i have now and get my money back
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>gave my P. formosa a nice cork tube, cleaned it thoroughly (or so I thought) from the inside with a brush
>keep catching her throwing out more dirt from inside
>tfw your spider is a neat freak

So that's the way it is, huh? Not good enough for you, huh?
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>>2370729
It got done molting two days ago, early instar so it doesn't need all that much time to dry out. The concerning thing is how quickly it went from a well fed look about it exiting its molt to anemic and shriveled.

I acted before reading your comment, and repeatedly dabbed (regrettably) undiluted honey on its mouth and forelimbs. It's no longer folded over, and it's not one of the mantis that do that
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>>2370755
They always have their preferences.

Mine hasn't liked using her hide unless I bury it deep enough for her liking.
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>>2370214
I think there's a few on the list, but A. Gigas especially
go big or go home
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How do i get spider? No one sells them in my area and i am interested. Is there any tutorials how i can get into this type of pet?
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>>2370094
How big would you say they are? They look huge from the photo.

The amphipods we have here max out at about .5 inches.
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>>2370764
SUCCESS!
I think the problem is that fruit flies are too small for it to recognize as prey. This is a little scary because I don't know where I can get house flies aside from sweep netting.

Aaaand crap, it dropped the fly after a few bites. I don't know what to do
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>>2370891
I'm too tired to write up a reply to that right now but I'm sure someone else will. If not I'm gonna reply tomorrow.

It would help knowing where you are.
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>>2370918
ask for maggots in a pet or angling supply store

alternatively, well, go outside and catch something
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>>2370923
also that's good to hear, at least its eating now

have you tried giving it a little more water as well?
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>>2370923
I've definitely been catching my own, but idk how long that can last
>>2370925
I'm spraying it pretty often now, but I just don't know. I'm totally willing to accept that even with good conditions that 1/8th of mantises die per molt is acceptable, but I wish I could have a little more control, especially considering that this is the first of the 5th instars I have.
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>>2371020
Well, deaths just happen sometimes. You can try killing something, cutting it open so it can taste all the tasty juices and then shoving it into its mouth (gently). They usually start eating automatically.
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Currently deciding between getting a Brachypelma emilia or Acanthoscurria geniculata for a nice 40x30x30 cm glass terrarium. I want this to be kind of a showpiece, so which one do you think will show herself more? Or which one would you prefer in general?
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>>2371232
that's width by depth by hight btw
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The male finally came out after molting. Nice.
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>>2370891
>No one sells them in my area and i am interested
I highly doubt that. Where are you at?

>Is there any tutorials how i can get into this type of pet?
Tons, but few good ones. I like these, you should read all of them: https://tomsbigspiders.wordpress.com/beginner-guides/

Also you gotta realize that being interested in their biology is hald the appeal of owning one, because they generally don't DO stuff very often and you can't really do anything with them. So if the thought of merely observing one bores you it's probably not for you.
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>>2370918
just got pupae on amazon, best deal i could find https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B9QI3Q6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
pic related, my mantis viv
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>>2371311
pic also related, its my mantis
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>>2371311
>>2371312
That's quite the luxury enclosure for the little guy lol

also be aware, 10 grams may not sound like a lot but that's a shitton of flies
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>>2371339
thank you, I've been working on the viv since october, initially just to keep plants in. a few months back i decided it needed a little bit of life, and a mantis would be a perfect fit

also yeah 10gs of pupae is around 500 flies so ill be sure not to sneeze lol
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And thus begins the descent.
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Anyone here have experience with trapdoor spiders? I've always wanted to keep a Liphistid, being that they are some of the most-basal spiders still around. How likely are they to make a burrow against a glass-walled enclosure so I can peer inside?
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>>2371485
A Theraposa? Did you just buy her? If so, congrats, it will only go downhill from here.
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>>2371732
*Theraphosa

also, which one?
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>>2371732
>>2371737
Oh no It's not mine. Just got the pic off arachnoboards

It's a stirmi, seeing as how the femur and patella aren't all bristly.
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>>2371284
Asker here. I live in Ronaoke, Va. Thanks for the information. Like seriously.
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>>2363817
can any one here confirm what spider this? It was on my shirt I was about to put on.

I live in north eastern part of the US

second opinion pls
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>>2371981
Hacklemesh weaver. Completely harmless.
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Bay of Crabs Invasion
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>>2371905
So you're in the US, which means you should have no problem getting a spider. Inverts are something you either buy at local conventions or online, as strange as that sounds. You have shops like kenthebugguy, jamiestarantulas, fearnottarantulas, bugsincyberspace just to name a few.

Make sure to inform yourself properly beforehand, pick a nice beginner friendly species and don't get memed by pet store employees. You shouldn't have to spend more than 100 bucks TOTAL (including spider) for a proper setup.
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We're past bump limit btw, we're gonna need a new thread tomorrow or so.
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>>2371265
holy fuck, that's a nice looking guy
keep us updated on how they're doing

any subadult females yet?
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>>2372226
I'm pretty sure all 3 of my females are subadult. The males are not an entire molt ahead, so I should get adult females pretty soon. If they aren't the females would be quite a bit larger than I thought.

Also yours are beautiful as well. Without the bark to hide against the pattern really stands out, wow. I bet they completely disappear if you let them sit on some cork bark though.
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>>2363825
What is this. It's got bongo drums for mandibles and was repelling on some web.
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>>2372611
Oh hey dubs. That's cool.
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>>2372149
Shipping was the single most expensive thing when I started TBQH
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>>2372611
Holy shit, isn't that a pirate spider? Something in Mimetus, I think. I've always wanted to see one of those fuckers, lucky you.
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>>2372632
Here's another picture from the back.
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>>2372636
Pirate spider for sure. These guys are super cool, one of my favorite families. He's completely harmless if you were wondering.
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>>2372637
Are they common in the South Eastern areas of america {Georgia to be soecific}? I haven't seen one before.
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>>2372645
They live all over the world but aren't very commonly seen. If you look at their spindly front legs, they use those to shake other spiders' webs so they can bait them and eat them. Give this a read.

http://bugeric.blogspot.com/2011/09/spider-sunday-pirate-spiders.html
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New thread when?
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>>2372960
coming right up

>>2373403
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