>>2350917

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>>2350932

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garden center got mantis eggs in finally, time to release a bazillion into my yard again this year

>>2350941
Garden centers sell mantises?

I knew they sold ladybugs, but not mantids.

>>2350917
whats the brown liquid?

>>2350968
basically vomit

>>2350974
is it corrossive or poisonous

>>2350976
Neither. Just really bitter to the taste, which deters predators.

>>2350948
the alspaugh's here does both! it's a really small store. i wouldn't be surprised if someone local requested them and they just kept ordering them year after year.

>>2350941
I've heard that a constant orientation is important for ootheca development. How does shipping affect hatching/how many mantises per sac?

>>2351018
well, the container says 50-200 babies per sac, so maybe that's accounted for. i never counted the kids when i let them go though. i also don't raise them outside of just buying these containers so i have no basis of comparison.

they come packaged in the wad of woody shreds that are in the picture, so unless they're really roughly handled during shipping, they might not actually change orientation at all.

here's a tiny clip from opening the first pint in the backyard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEYWnhQuPuU

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>>2350917
that weta isn't evil. it's being provoked and having its legs tugged on by a giant alien, poor thing is terrified! leave it alone!

>>2351086
>insects
>experiencing pain
I fart in your general direction

>>2351188
>*experiencing fear
Fucking hell
I no longer fart in your general direction

>>2350941
Are mantids even a viable pest control? They aren't specialized on any pests and will anything they get, including other helpful insects.

Or are they rather sold simply for the coolness of having them in your garden?

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anyone knows what kind of bugs are these?

>>2351377
Location?

>>2351400
Mexico

>>2351377
some thing from the genus Thasus, maybe Thasus neocalifornicus

they are fucking beautiful, I would love to keep some as pets

>>2351377
Some kind of Nezara
they're mating I think

>>2351454
wow yeah you got it right it's a Thasus neocalifornicus or Giant Mesquite Bug Nymphs,I just searched them and It seem that they are edible

>>2351440
sorry, dude.

>>2351440
why?

>>2351459
A lot of things are "edible". The real question is do they taste good?

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>>2351470
from what i been reading they have a good taste but if you cook them to much they get bitter and also it's a good source of protein

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>>2351476

"The most common edible beetle is the chahui, which feeds on the bean pods of the desert-growing mesquite tree (as do coyotes). The chahui has a bitter flavour that disappears when roasted well, giving way to an almost fishy flavour."

https://www.lonelyplanet.com/mexico/oaxaca-state/travel-tips-and-articles/the-10-tastiest-insects-and-bugs-in-mexico

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>>2351480

>>2351487
What? They look tasty desu

>>2351213
admittedly i've never really researched it, but i don't have a garden. we just like having them around and there are a shit ton of mosquitoes since it never gets cold enough here to actually kill bugs (southeast texas), so if they eat them we're happy.

>>2351480
>beetle

So I've had my 2" b. albo for a few days, she has been pretty skittish, just staying in her hide once she found it. Had a lot of bald spots on her abdomen when I got her and seemed dis interested in the roaches I offered(though she did eat two I prekilled and left in overnight). Today it seems like she has barricaded herself in her hide with substrate- this means she is about to molt right?

>>2351575
My B. smithi did the exact same thing before he molted the first time so yeah it seems pretty likely.

>>2351577
Cool, I figured thats what she was doing. Its hard not to worry about it constantly though, my first T. Should I increase the humidity? I've got a bottle cap filled with water that I keep refilling but she is in a kritter keeper that is probably too big for her.

>>2351480
theyre not beetles, theyre clearly hemipterans

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Alright, got her the new enclosure today. Substrate is 6 inches deep and the height is about six inches as well. Should I add more substrate?

I also got her the LED arrangement.

>>2351685
>height from the substrate up

whoops

>>2351583
>Should I increase the humidity
Nah. Humidity is a meme. Very few species actually require that. The only thing humidity does is slow the evaporation of water from the booklungs. As long as there's always a source of water humidity is irrelevant.

>>2351685
That should be enough substrate. What you can do is make a slope towards one side and put the hide there or pre dig a hole for her. If she decides to burrow there it will be deeper.

Also there is always a chance you could just have a spider that doesn't like to burrow. Happens quite often, even whith sibling from the same eggsack, in the same substrate and conditions some dig and some just don't.

Also have fun with the LEDs and let us know if you can actually see her at night.

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This P. guineensis female is gonna eat me out of house and home. It took two adult locusts and two fat superworms to fill that fat butt of hers. And in three days she'll be super slim again and I can repeat that procedure.

And why the fuck was my image upside down gook moot?

>>2352022
How do you care for a mantis? What's an easy species to start with and what are some basic no-no's?

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How do T's react to sound. I regularly play music from speakers and play guitar fairly loudly. Should I move my amp to another room or move the T across the room?

>>2351845
>uguu~

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>>2352065
>How do you care for a mantis?
A box at least 3x (better 4x) the height of the mantis with good airflow, which means at least the top and one side made of mesh.
Very little decoration (1 or two twigs or one small plant) that leaves a big open space in the middle. Kitchen paper as substrate, or maybe sphagnum moss for species that require high humidity.
10W halogen desk lamp that's on for 10 to 12 hours a day to get the proper temperature and heat gradient for quick development and good appetite (lots of online care sheets say no heating required, this leads to a lethargic, slow growing mantis and possibly fatal molting problems).
Regularly spray water for humidity and for drops the mantis can drink from. How often depends on the species, once a day to once a week usually.
Feed regularly (once a week to daily) with small prey like fruit flies, flightless houseflies, green and blue bottle flies. Roaches, superworms and locusts for the more rugged species occasionally as a treat, or for adult females as "power food".

And that's it.

>What's an easy species to start with
Any Sphodromantis or Hierodula species. Phyllocrania paradoxa for something fancy looking but small.

>what are some basic no-no's?
No stuffy enclosures, good airflow is a must.
No metal mesh for ventilation, they burn their feet on it.
No excessive decoration that limits the space they need to molt.
No crickets.

>>2352069
They are extremely sensitive to vibrations. They are sensitive enough to notice footsteps when someone walks around the same room. Loud and sudden vibrations send them darting into their hides in an instant and they will often remain there for hours even after the disturbance has cleared.

>Should I move my amp to another room or move the T across the room?
Would be easier to move the T, wouldn't it? Just putting the enclosure in another room would be less work than moving an amp.

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Here they are. And they are cute as fuck. There's a lot more in there btw, these aren't the only ones.

Does anyone have any idea when they're gonna start eating and/or leaving the eggsack? The internet seems to have no information.

>>2352015
I actually caught her trying to dig in her old enclosure, which is why I bought her the new one, otherwise it would've been the same.

But yeah, it looks like she's just getting acclimated to her new surroundings. She still hasn't eaten though. She's cuddling with the dubia I gave her yesterday as we speak.

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>>2351480
>beetles

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>>2350948
The nurseries here sell the egg sacks. But they're strange bulbous sacks unlike the neat geometric egg sacks of the Mantids native to California.

Turns out their Chinese mantids and thank God they find our habitat harsh so it's not going to become invasive... for once.

>pic related: big boss Cali mantis.

>>2350941
See
>>2352840

Enjoy your chink mantids.

>>2351086
It looked pretty stressed, what I'm wondering is why the handler let themself get bitten so many times before putting the agitated animal down at some point after the clip? That shit looked like it hurt.

>>2352840
>pic related: big boss Cali mantis
>posts a Mantis religiosa, which is also just an invasive species

>>2351487
I hear terrestrial and freshwater arthropods taste similarly to marine crustaceans, only they are often eaten whole and have what people describe as a 'nutty' flavor. When prepared correctly, the carapace usually crumbles like a crisp.

>>2352116
If there's no mother present, they are usually ready to spread out immediately before they begin to get hungry around one another. They'll find a tall perch outdoors and cast ionized silk threads which "grab" the air and lift them on the wind, sometimes travelling for miles.

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These little bastards are some of the only arthropods that give me pause and make me jump when they start flying.

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>>2352847
exactly what I thought

>>2352849
I ate a whole lot of different inverts, they all tested different. The most disgusting ones were Acheta domestica, unlike Gryllus bimaculatus, they tasted like shit

the best ones were tarantulas and silk moth pupae, giant waterbugs are also not bad.
Absolutely edible when consumed on their own, but delicious in a complete dish, like they eat it in SE asia with noodles, vegetables etc.
The carapace was only a problem with the big Heterometrus, the shards even hurt a bit (while chewing and down the throat)

also, does anybody know when Rhombodera cf. megaera can be sexed?
Some species are really easy to sex early on, but this lil guy/girl makes me wonder if I'm just too dumb..

it is L4 btw

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>>2352857
I suspect it's a male, but I'm not too sure

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well, it's finally happened.
this one had a bad molt, one rear leg fucked up, wounded coxa, and his mouthparts still have shed on it.
Thing is, he molted around an hour ago, and is pretty active. it's trying to groom its face, and I'm wondering what I can do to help, if anything.

Should I try tweezering off the loose skin?

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>>2352859
Yeah, should be male. Here's a direct comparison with my L7 R. cf. megaera male.

>>2352846
Obviously a stunt.

>>2352870
ah shit, was hoping for a female
But thank you for your help!

>>2352116
comfy

>>2351377
Are you from Chile?

i saw some tv news about a new bug eating cauliflower plantations , and they said those were african thumbtacks, wich look similar to the photo

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>>2351377
Those look like the bugs we had all over where I live with different coloration. We called ours maple bugs.

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>out taking a walk in back bay
>figure its still a bit too chilly to find any good leps so i dont take any collecting equipment
>see a few swallowtails,
Ha-h-a ill have all summer to get some swallowtails.
>see a fucking snowberry clearwing
FUCK FUCK FUCK

>>2352862
>Should I try tweezering off the loose skin?

That would be best, but I suppose it goes without saying that you ought to be very, very delicate with them

>>2352924
Look like box elder bugs to me

>>2353055
yeah, I might just freeze him if he can't eat tonight, its antenna cam off with the molt too.

I went bug hunting today and I'll share my best once I get them pinned

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Got my Camponotus rufipes founding colony yesterday. 1 Queen and 7 Workers with a small larva pack.

Gave them a bit of egg yolk, you can see them working on it in the background. Hope the Queen starts laying eggs soon.

Heard that this species has a fast brood cycle so I think I'll have a sizable colony in a few months.

Are silverfish worth keeping as pets? I found a few living under my floorboards and I put them in a little container, deciding whether to toss them or keep them

>>2353068
Thermobia domestica make good feeders.

>>2352940
d'aww, it's adorable

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Does my enclosure look alright? New avic avic, my first arboreal.

>>2353128
>wood tube isn't longer and standing upright

Cmon dude.

>>2353128
Personally I'd make even more air holes but that's just my autism. Also that water bowl is gonna be a pain in the ass to get out and clean. Try gluing some sort of holder for it on the side and then putting it on there.

>>2353133
doesn't need to be longer, they will expand their nets to both sides anyway but yes, it should be upright or better yet glued to the side so both ends are free

>>2353133
Do they prefer it standing up right? She was a gift so I had to throw something together real quick. I'm going to get some better stuff but that was the longest tube I could find locally.

>>2353134
Yeah I know, what do you use for water dishes? I can't find anything the right size. I'll try gluing it to the side, maybe with a few more pieces of cork for anchor points.

>>2353140
The size is alright but don't glue the dish directly, you can't take it out to clean it like that. Glue some sort of support that you can put it on.

More cork also isn't really necessary, they'll do their own thing with their nets anyway.

>Do they prefer it standing up right?
Yes, with both ends open.

>>2353141
>>2353139
Thanks for all the feedback, I'll try gluing it to the side tomorrow, don't want to take her out and stress her out more today.

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alright, look what I found for my collection yesterday

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>>2353447
(yes I straitened out that antennae)
I also found a polypod larvae inside a rotten log, will it become a moth?

>>2353447
>>2353449
Those look noice. You find em dead already or do you freeze them or are they alive and just camera friendly?

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God damn it.
Why are caterpillars SO BAD at staying alive?

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finally, after two years of searching for this species...
I hoped they were available more regularly, they are apparently rarer than I thought

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>>2353552
they are so tiny and fast, hard to take a pic

>>2353458
I carry a kill jar when I'm collecting

>>2353552
>>2353553
Humbertiella?

>>2353563
Theopompa servillei

>>2353552
>>2353553
>>2353572
Nice dude.

How many did you get? Are you planning to breed them?

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>>2350932
thats a ground beetle, love em
pic related, also a ground beetle

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>>2351558
>>2351610
>>2352579
thank god there are normal people in this board

>>2353447
>>2353449
location?

>>2352940
Are those that rare? I saw them twice and both sightings were last summer. Fuck it was comfy in summer.

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>>2353601
thanks
I got only six, but I hope I'll be able to breed them, sure

They apparantly fucking love springtails
The lil' rascals are shooting around on their bark pieces, catching springtail after springtail

>>2353735
>The lil' rascals are shooting around on their bark pieces, catching springtail after springtail

Cute. Just like my Metallyticus violaceus, they run around all the time unlike the M. splendidus, though I suspect that is because of how much food they have, the fat little bastards.

How small are they, like actual size and instar?

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>>2351480
STOP

>>2353659
Not him but I see these fuckers in suriname

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>>2353759
I can imagine, are the Metallyticus active during the day, or are they nocturnal?
Also, do they Jump around alot too?

>How small are they, like actual size and instar?
They are apparently instar 2-3 but I guess the bigger ones are just instar 2, not sure tho
They are about 4-5mm long, will try to measure them tomorrow
here is a pic I took while unpacking them, you can see (more like guess) their size a bit better

>>2353787
>are the Metallyticus active during the day, or are they nocturnal

They should be diurnal but mine barely move due to the overabundance of food. I want to make absolutely sure I don't lose any since they were a wee bit expensive so they sit, fat and happy, on their little territory and barely move. It has worked great so far. Haven't lost a single one, even though the L. violaceus were L2 when I got them.

>>2353559
why do you go out to kill bugs you psycho?

>>2353559
Where did you get your supplies?
What times do you go out collecting?
Do you travel to different places or just whats nearby?

I've wanted to start pinning for a while but I have no fucking clue how to start.

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Went to the Central Kansas Reptile expo this weekend, picked up some new T's and a scorp
1 Acanthoscurria Geniculata
1 Lasiodora Parahybana
1 Vaejovis Spinnigerus

Pic related, A Genic

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L. Parahybana

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V. Spinnigerus

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Changed Vaejovis to a more suitable container and substrate btw

>>2353659
central US.

>>2353775
do you have these guys in suriname?
Meloidia of some sort

6/8 of my chinese mantises have molted, one died shortly after

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>>2354231
whoops

>>2350917
Any Torontofags know a place to get inverts?

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>>2352106

I assume you commented on this video last time.

>>2352065

Couple things to consider is temperature, humidity, and feeders. If you have a pet mantis room temperature is usually fine, because you want them to live longer. Increasing the temperature will make them eat and grow much faster, reducing their lifespan.

Serious breeders and keepers will say flies only, usually bluebottle or houseflies. I feed mine crickets, which from a nutrition perspective are comparable, but they're a more aggressive animal, less clean, and more prone to diseases. Some mantis species will reject or run away from crickets.

Here's everything I know about keeping them as a non-expert hobbyist.

https://youtu.be/tIwxxrgS-kk

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>>2354241
>room temperature is usually fine
except with pretty much all Empusidae, as well as Eremephila sp. and other heat loving species

>I feed mine crickets, which from a nutrition perspective are comparable, but they're a more aggressive animal, less clean, and more prone to diseases
crickets are shit tier, and they pretty much all have gregarines, which in turn kill mantids

Also, many species are specialized to eat flying insects, they only catch them mid flight and will ignore everything that crawls next to them, like Gongylus and Idolomantis or Schizocephala, but these are not for beginners anyway

>>2354288

Yeah, I agree with you. I've have a small heat lamp for my B Mendica, but my ghosts didn't seem to have a problem.

I think crickets are considered a bad feeder for a lot of reasons, but to me, the biggest issue is people buy them at the store, then immediately feed them to their insects.

You really need to hold on to them for a while, feed them a better diet than whatever the pet store was giving them, and monitor their health. Whatever goes into them will end up going into your mantis. So hopefully its something more nutritious than egg crate. My girlfriend would kill me if I kept fly pupae in the fridge, so until I actually want to breed mantids, crickets will have to do.

I have heard some species, specifically the Gongylus you mentioned, won't eat them. I've avoided getting them because I worry about the more difficult species, as having anything die prematurely would bum me out. So far all of my mantis have lived well into adulthood.

I have some orchids coming whenever my breeder decides to send them, and that will be a new challenge for me.

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So I heard you can keep these in groups.
Is that true?

>>2354173
>1 Acanthoscurria Geniculata
>1 Lasiodora Parahybana

Gunning for the big ones I see. Good choices mang

>>2354329
Generally yes, they do work well in groups. However, they aren't completely opposed to cannibalism if they are really hungry or against consiberably smaller individuals.

Just seperate by genders and don't have bigger differences than one molt between them and there should be no problems.

>>2352116
plot twist: they are inside someone's ear canal

>>2354294
>orchids
you have to get flies then, no way around it with Hymenopus
maybe the occasional roach, but don't feed them anything else, they WILL die

source: I also breed H. coronatus

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>>2354047
Not that guy, but I do a bit of pinning myself.
Bioquip is a lot of people's go-to for supplies. Carolina science supply also comes to mind.

I'm personally not a big fan of kill jars, since I don't like having to sort through everything later and I usually collect some stuff I want alive and others I want to pin. I just keep a backpack with a ton of small plastic vials on me and store each specimen alive individually, then when I get home I freeze anything I want to kill, and also keep them in the freezer until I'm ready to pin.

The most important tool for insect collection is a good net, though. I use a relatively cheap muslin fabric net and it's worked out great for me. I picked it up on ebay for like $20. You want a "sweep" style fabric net rather than a thin "butterfly" net, since those will rip on the first bit of thorns you bush against.

As for time and place, that's all up to you. You'll find all kinds of different species in different areas, in different seasons, and different times of day. There's a great deal of exploration involved to find interesting new areas.

Here's a pic of an insect collection I put together for an entomology class last year.

>>2350941
Releasing non native species willy nilly is always a bad idea. They won't even help your garden noticably.

>>2351188
Insects definitely experience pain, but not fear or dread or any of the negative things we associate with it. Pain is necessary to keep any living thing alive.
think

EXOSKELETON BREACH AT ABDOMEN SEGMENT 7, INITIATE AVOIDANCE SEQUENCE.
instead of
OH GOD JESUS MY I CAN SEE MY ORGANS WHO WILL FEED MY SMALL VILLAGE OF CATS NOW

>>2354341
Yee mang, currently at six T's after starting with four a few months ago

>>2354407
Nice collection, I made a nice one like that for an entomology class and it has been falling apart in my closet for years. Maintain it!
Need to get nets myself and fet back in the collection game. I see cool insects all the time and am never prepared.

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I really want to try eating insects and see it as the same thing as eating shrimp or other crustaceans, but when you eat decapods you're only eating muscle generally. I have no interest in eating insect entrains and wings and heads. I imagine grubs are best for this? I have a bunch of excess honeybee drone comb and have hears the larva/pupa is tasty. How do I cook this shit?

>>2354463
excuse my typing on broken phone typos

>>2354232
looks like a meloidae male

>>2354231
is your tiger beetle Cicindela sexguttata per chance?

>>2354463
in a frying pan with a little bit of oil, season with some salt and enjoy.

you can cook crickets or grasshoppers in the same way and they taste just like potato crisps.

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>>2354407
Hey anon, I checked out Bioquip and saw this. If I bought this, would I pretty much have everything I needed to start collecting?

I want to pin some insects and get competent at it soon, I don't know if this is morbid or not but I have a beautiful t. sinensis that's nearing the end of her natural life cycle, and I'd like to pin her. She's my first mantis and I fear I've gotten too attached to her to just bury her in the soil. I've always been interested in pinning though, I guess this just pushed me to actually start doing it.

>>2354407
do you have any tips on how to catch belostomatids? i cant seem to find anything in local creeks/ponds

>>2352924
yours are boxelder bugs, idk about the ones in the post you replied to

Anyone else get attached to their feeders? I feel bad having to kill my little dubia colony, it's fun watching them grow and forage. Spiders gotta eat though

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>tfw you hit the jackpot
Bess beetles are cute, I'm glad that I caught a spare one to keep on my own

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looks like he's gonna molt soon
hopefully he'll survive until his females are adult

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>>2354407
Nice collection. I really want to go out and collect locally but I just don't have the time at the moment. Until then it's stuff I bring back from the tropics or order online or the inverts I keep.

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P. bolivari babies are growing pretty fast

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I also finally found some joung P. expansus, I thoughz they were still too small to reproduce

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I want one of these, but as I understand they're endangered.

Platerodrilus or Sumerian Trilobite Beetle.

Anyone ever had a velvet worm? I just want to touch one.

I just tried feeding my A. avicularia a small dubia. She grabbed it like she was going to eat it then just dropped it. Should I try crickets? Or just leave her alone for a few days?

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>find what I believe to be a cockroach ooth
>neat, I'll hatch it and have another food source for my mantises
>put it in a plastic bag with a live beetle
>beetle rams the fuck out of the corner of the bag and tears a hole
>when I check my pocket the ooth is gone
>have to check every crevice in my wallet N+1 times to avoid haveing roaches hatch in my pockets

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I thought flower beetles and their larvae get along just fine. Looks like I was wrong.

Just got myself a big new shelf where I'll be able to place a ton of invert tanks. I'm trying to figure out what would be the best way to light/heat a larger number of tanks. I guess for species that don't really need heating fluorescent tubes could easily cover several tanks, but what should I do for those who need it? Should I just install several halogen lamps above the tanks or could a heat mat work?

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>>2356160
Heat mats/cables are kinda shit. Just get lights and an air heater if you need to bring you room temp even further up.

For humidity either get an humidifier or ?Sprayer? (don't know what they are called in english)

Pic related is my setup. I usually only keep desert/steppe species so I don't really bother with humidity that much.

I have lots of lights and a small air heater though. Always keeping my daytime room temp at around 30°C (85 f) with the heatspot even higher.

Also on a sidenote anyone got an idea what I could keep in a 42 litre (11 gallon) tank? The one at the bottom with the background.

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>>2356186
Also my Camponotus nicobarensis were hungry today. The queen is preparing to lay her new batch of eggs.

>>2355674
How recently did you get her?

I'd just leave her alone for a few days. Alternatively try feeding flies. Mine go absolutely nuts for flies, probably because they're aboreal.

>>2356277
3 days ago, she has been webbing like crazy since yesterday. I'll be out of town for easter weekend so I'll just make sure her water bowl is full and let her settle. Much more entertaining than my juvie b. albo at least, that thing is a pet hole. Hopefully its just molting and will come out soon.

>>2356277
I agree with the fly thing. My A. avic will refuse food for annoying amounts of time, but never if I offer it something with wings.

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>>2356160
>fluorescent tubes
Use LEDs, it's cheaper in the long run.

Also yes, use halogen lamps if at all possible. Heat mats and cables are just shit overall. Hard to remove if they fail (and they do fail, often). Hard to adjust without buying extra shit like thermostats and of course completely unnatural as heat sources which may be fatal for species that try to burrow to escape the heat.

>>2356186
>anyone got an idea what I could keep in a 42 litre (11 gallon) tank? The one at the bottom with the background.

It's a really nice tank so I'd suggest my current favorite "display" animals, whip spiders. Of course you'll never ever see them during the day but with the red LEDs at night they are extremely entertaining and come out literally every night. You can probably even put 2 females and a male in there and watch their social behavior.

>>2356288
what wattage are you using?

>>2356298
For the LEDs? They're 18W.

>>2352852

as they should. My toe-biter bite was without a doubt the most painful experience of my life. Worse than a sea nettle sting, worse than a Juvi Mississauga bite on my foot, and worse than having knee surgery and my mom throwing the pain pills away as soon as we got home.

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Are these bad boys the only insects native to Britain worth caring for? They look cool and are predatory aggressive little bastards

https://youtu.be/kmteYovpkD8

>tfw all your animals are fed, happy and healthy and you've got nothing to do

So... what do I do now?

>>2356452
order some more

>>2356452
Have another hobby. It helps that animal husbandry is my secondary hobby.

>>2353110
That's pretty cute yo.

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>>2356452
I dunno. Watch them? I find every invertebrate without any interesting social behaviour boring as shit. Once you get into ant keeping all other invertebrate seem like retards anyway.

>>2356288
What social behavior do whip spiders exhibit?
I mean they look pretty cool but they seem pretty rare. Not even sure where I would get them or what species.

Any of you /an/ons know good sites to buy centipedes from? Im looking to buy one but all my local pet shops dont sell them.

>>2356495
location?

>>2356470
Not that guy but amblypygi are remarkably social and even have kin selection skills. Young siblings tend to explore environment together, maintaining whip contact the whole time, and they even seem to communicate certain degree. There's a YouTube video of a male and female d. Diadema given a cricket and the female taps the male a bunch and he just sits there and lets her get the prey

>>2356548
also they memorize their environment and get really confused when you change something, it's kinda cute

>>2356496
Illinois

>>2356440
>a fucking rove beetle
I guess. Do you not have any native carabidae

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>>2356439
>my mom throwing the pain pills away as soon as we got home.
what?

Also, if we are talking about toebiters already:
Does anyone of you have any experience with keeping/breeding Lethocerus sp.?
Thinking about getting some

Honest question:

I'm not a spooder guy. In fact, I'd say my arachnophobia's an 3/10ish. However, I've always found them interesting inverts.

What is the appeal of having a pet spider, exactly? I myself really enjoy dogs because I can pet and hug them to death -- it seems to me that spiders are kind of the opposite.

What do you do with them? Do you primarily watch them, kinda like fish?

>>2356807
Tarantulas and scorptions are mostly visual pets yeah. They don't have the brain capacity to show affection but they're very easy to take care of so that balances it out I guess. I personally keep them because I like the way they look and behave, and because of their low care requirements it's fun to collect a big variety of species.

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I like to give my guys free reign while I work. Here's Julius after flying around the room

>>2356895
Gorgeous

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>>2356548
Jumping spiders are pretty intelligent, too. Along with tailless whip scorpions, like you said, these are some of the only arthropods that can be said to have true cognizance. Most arthropods work off of a simple binary response system; X stimulus generates Y response.

I wonder how intelligent arthropods can become if they developed a more-effective means of collecting oxygen for their bodies. It actually surprises me that true pulmonary breathing was never developed in any species, considering how arthropods' breeding habits generally allow them to evolve faster than vertebrates.

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>>2354739
That looks like a pretty alright starter kit. I'd check on the specifics of the net though, it looks like the material may be a little thin.

>>2354844
I tend to find them moreso in the slowest, shallowest water, be it ponds, swamps, and large puddles, especially in and around vegetation. Where are you located?

>>2355261
>>2354458
Thanks

>>2355469
>>2355471
Awesome! Are you in the US? I know a couple of people have managed to get those species imported recently. Waiting for a friend of mine to get babies from his to share with me.

>>2356495
Bugs in Cyberspace is usually my go-to. They don't always have the largest variety, but good prices and the owner Peter is a great guy. Ken the Bug guy tends to have more variety but higher prices. Swift's inverts also comes to mind. If none work out, you can ways poke around the classifieds on arachnoboards.

>>2356730
>Does anyone of you have any experience with keeping/breeding Lethocerus sp.?

No but I know their bite is apparently one of the most painful things you can experience.

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>>2356947
Hemiptera that can bite are the spawn of evil

>>2356807
Don't think of them as "pets" in the traditional sense, there is no interaction.

It's mostly visual. Some just look absolutely amazing on their own and you get to watch their interesting behavior occasionally. Also it's a bit of a collectors hobby, especially with spiders and watching things grow up is also fun. Also they're basically zero effort, when compared to something like a dog so you can have a shitton without investing much time. It's also pretty cheap.

>>2356908
>Most arthropods work off of a simple binary response system; X stimulus generates Y response.

That is both often not true and doesn't mean it's primitive in any way. Arthropods make very complex decisions like any other macroscopic animal living in a complex environment all the time but it's integrated basically at "hardware" level instead of in the "software". There is some extremely clever wiring and processing in their nervous systems that allows them to make very intelligent decisions lightning fast, much faster than vertebrates.
Arthropods as simple "reflex machines" fucking triggers me pretty hard. Something like that can not survive in such a sensory complex world.

I'd suggest reading this excellent collection of studies on the topic: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/complex-worlds-simpler-nervous-systems

>>2356895
It's actually warm enough for them to start flying in your room? Does not sound comfy desu

>>2356470
>Not even sure where I would get them or what species.
They're offered occasionally online by tarantula guys that also have some spiders/inverts (Yes, I know they're not spiders). If you tell me where you're at I could point you in the right direction.

As for species, the only ones offered on any regular basis are Damon. Specifically Damon diademe and Damon medius. Phrynus is similar but rarer and everything else is basically pure luck.

>>2356957
*Damon diadema

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>>2356952
Ah, ok. I've misinterpreted what I've read, then. Thank you for the clarification. I've forgotten that protostomes have non-centralized intelligences. Even limbs can be semi-autonomous.

>>2356895
>danganronpa 2 stickers
My nigga

I breed large exotic bugs and insects just to watch them fight one another to the death

>>2357312
cool

>>2356914
Thanks anon will look into those two sites

>>2352840

ALL mantids are invasive species

the only reason they don't fuck the native wildlife is because they are cannibalistic, and keep their population under control naturally.

>>2357421
>ALL mantids are invasive species
what

>>2357421
Stagmomantis carolina is the only mantis species native to the US iirc, all others are introduced

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>>2357421
>>2357561
5 species of Stagmomantis, Brunneria borealis, Gonatista grisea, 2 species in Vatinae, 4 species in family Amelinaes, and 3 species in family Thespidae are all native to the US. Granted, the bulk of these are only found in the more southern parts of the country.
There is a handful of introduced ones, though, the European, Asian, Narrow-winged, and Mediterranean mantids.

Also, the cannibalism thing doesn't happen nearly as much in the wild as you would think. The reason the invasives aren't too bad is because plenty of other predators will eat them too.

>>2356954
It's chilly here but I keep the living room (beetle room) heated. I freeze in my bedroom but the bugs are happy so I'm happy.

>>2357158
Hell yeah

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My mom is chill and likes my beetles. Even Spike, who is a mean bastard

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>my P. metallica, L. violaceopes and A. purpurea slings just arrived, all healthy after 4 days of shipping

Thank god, I was so worried but the packaging was 10/10.

I might have a blue spider addiction though, help.

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This girl is gonna give me a damn heart attack.

Tried taking her out of the enclosure for maintenance and she skittered out the Tupperware and took a 10 inch fall. Examined her thoroughly for a good ten minutes and I see no sign of bleeding and her abdomen is totally intact. What's the risk of internal damage? What signs should i look out for if she's hurt?

>>2358002
Does such a small fall really do that much damage to tarantulas? I'm surprised, I would think they'd fall further in the wild.

>>2358086
Only if they're arboreal. Terrestrial species are built for ground dwelling, they're not made to sustain any kind of fall.

>>2358002
Why did you take her out for maintenance? They don't usually require anything more than spot cleaning, which can be done with long tweezers.

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>>2358149
Ironically, it was because I didn't want to spook her into running over the edge of teh enclosure and falling

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Things your inverts do that you find cute/funny/charming?

My dorcus alcides is a monster with his jelly cups, he eats the whole thing and walks around with it on his head. He's not stuck, it seems like he wants to get his tongue past his mandibles to the good shit

Here he is on his back like a glutton til I rescued him with a freah cup

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>>2358425
In addition to her frightening mood swings, she goes crazy for her fake plants. They seem to have a calming effect on her. If she's not in her hide, she's dicking around with/sleeping in the plants.

Ok, how the fuck does something like this happen?

My little Rhombodera cf. megaera was eating green and even blue bottles when it was L4 without any trouble..
It is L5 since last sunday and is now afraid of everything that's bigger than Drosophila melanogaster

I never had this happen to any of my Mantids, and I'm breeding different species since more than 10 years (never this species tho)

What did I do to create such a pussy?

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>>2350917
That's an angry bug...
Here, have a mandatory post

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It's been nearly two months, but my Armadillidium nasatum finally had some babies. Not sure how many, but it might be time to move them to a bigger container.

>>2358425
I had a Parasphendale female that loved fucking pounding flies across her enclosure. Now I know that many mantids punch their food away when they're not hungry, but this one took it to a new level. She fucking smashed them as hard as she could and actually killed them by striking them so hard. Her enclosure walls were full of exploded flies.

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>>2358650
>What did I do to create such a pussy?

I have no idea but that's pretty funny.

I guess she will eat the bigger flies eventually if she gets hungry enough.

>>2358665
If that is mandatory then so is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efyufhtO7VU

Actual angry moth noises.

>>2357421
>>2357559
>>2357561
>>2357605
If they're non-native but not causing problems they're just called exotic species, not invasive

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>We require more minerals

>>2358909
Are these things omnivores or something?

>>2358971
Of course.

>>2358909
You're making me curious about isopods. How are they to keep? Do they show themselves frequently enough? I'm surprised at the amount of species in the pet trade.

>>2359047
uh, that's my cleanup crew that just kinda lives with my big centipede, I don't take care of them at all

>>2359085
doesn't the pede go after them?

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Is my 2" b albo in premolt? She has had these bald spots and dark shapes on her abdomen since I got her a few weeks ago. Apologies for shit pic, hopefully you can tell what I'm talking about.

>>2359152
Looks like she's getting there, yeah.

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>>2359171
Cool, that's what I figured. She was nice enough to come out of her hide for a better pic. Should I even bother trying to feed her?

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>>2359047
I enjoy keeping them. They're low maintenance and don't require much more than dirt, leaves, and water. A few vegetables don't hurt either. They tend to hide, but there's usually a few out and about when I check on them. It's also kind of fun to just watch the leaf litter move while they're doing their thing. Also the babies are pretty cute. They start out smaller than a grain of rice.

>>2359197
Maybe try once and if she hasn't chowed down in 24 hours, let be until she's done her business

>>2359129
No she ignores them, they're way too small for her.

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I'm unfamiliar about keeping insects, but I get a lot of these glowing click beetles during the summer, and I want to know if they're easy to keep or not.

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Speaking of premolt, how long do you guys think until this one molts?

The butt has been getting fatter without me feeding it and now there are the beginnings of a net, which I assume is going to be the one it will molt on. Will the molt be tonight or is it still more days away?

Also one of my "Ybyrapora" diversipes molted yesteday, successfully as far as I can tell. Hopefully its gonna throw the molt out soon so I can sex it.

>>2359284
Straight from Wikipedia
>Adults feed on pollen, fermenting fruit and sometimes small insects, while the larvae live in the soil and feed on various plant materials and invertebrates, as well on the larvae of other beetles.

Also throw in a water dish and you should be good.

>>2359322
I thought the larva feed on decaying wood but I probably confused them with something else.

>>2359284
If that >>2359322 is true it should be quite easy to keep and even breed them. If you plan to actually breed them (which would be awesome, please post results) I would first find out how to determine their gender and then have an excess of females. Too many males might lead to a lot of stress for the females.

>>2359322
>>2359327
Would I be concerned with humidity levels or something? Should I use a screen top for air circulation, or a glass lid to keep in humidity?

>>2359379
Humidity is very often overrated, as long as you have a water bowl where they can replace the water they loose they should be totally fine. I'd go with the screen top. Good ventilation prevents mold and other nasty things.

>>2359316
Well the question just answered itself as its lying on its back on the net now. Hopefully everything goes well.

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Who has owned a Grammostola pulchra? Have you noticed any special quirks about them or things you have to do differently with them than other T's?

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>>2360147
S H O R T S T A C K

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>>2360147
I have one but it's still a juvenile, I haven't noticed any quirks yet since she's pretty shy, but it'll probably get better once she gets bigger.

>>2360147
mine doesnt go in a hide, or burrow. I dont know why. Ive tried several different hides and left her alone for weeks but she refuses to actually hide. she just sits there out in the open, without even bothering to conceal herself in any way.

this is fine, and its nice to actually see a tarantula in its enclosure, but it still bothered the shit out of me for a while.

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>>2360259
Mine gets this way too, though she alternates between hibernating in her hide and scurrying out in her tank

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anyone know where i can get a Cyriocosmus ritae in the uk?, all the usual places are out of stock.

>>2360883
Does it have to be ritae? I haven't seen any of those for sale in quite a while. Other species are far more commonly available.

http://www.thespidershop.co.uk/thrigmopoeus-psychedelicus-p-3276.html

>first batch of Thrigmopoeus psychedelicus slings are now being sold
>for around 100€ each
>I kinda want one


Anyone else here want to jump on the meme spider train? I'm holding out because I suspect this may be a fast growing species so prices could come down in as few as 2 to 3 years.

>>2360883
dawwwww

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>>2360907
baby tarantulas are pretty cute

>>2360892
WOW that's gorgeous but I agree with the comments, too much for a sling. Hopefully they go down.

>>2360922
Thrigmopoeus psychedelicus is old news by this point, as is Chilobrachys electric blue. It's all about that Typhochlaena seladonia now. I'm expecting slings late this year or early next year and the prices will be fucking astronomical.

But seriously, what's with all the meme spiders recently?

>>2360924
>prices will be fucking astronomical
that's what I'm thinking too..
makes me a bit sad desu, don't even know why


does anyone of you know what's an acceptable price range for Sinomantis denticulata nymphs?

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They grow so fast. L6 or 7 now, I'm not sure. Also there's no info on the internet how many molts they actually go through but judging by those wing stubs there can only be 1 or 2 left.

>>2360932
>does anyone of you know what's an acceptable price range for Sinomantis denticulata nymphs?

The only place I've ever seen these is precarius 333s channel on youtube. I've never seen them offered anywhere so I think they are priceless.

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>feeding my 7 chinese mantises
>fresh jar of fruit flies because the first one crapped out due to inexperience
>dumping more than usual because there are so many
>get to the second to last one and it is hanging next to it's own skin
>pic related because worried about disturbing my collection in pre-molt
>the rest are all actively hunting and eating
???
this is/will be only their third molt, does the phenology spread out that quickly?

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Can anyone help me ID this?
Found several of them on a plant indoors in the UK.
They were about 3/4 mm long

>>2360888
Doesnt have to be, if you know of any other dwarf species that look as nice as them and can live communally that would be great

>>2361070
One of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mealybug

Identifying species is difficult but it might be Pseudococcus longispinus.

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>>2361096
Thanks, Anon.
I'll probably get some ladybirds to deal with them and a few other pests.

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I'm new to the mantid hobby, do you pretty much just have to wait and pounce when you see a species you want being for sale? There's several species I'm looking at keeping but I can't find them for sale or even mentioned anywhere.

I'm looking for h. venosa, r. megaera, r. basalis, and m. splendidus specifically, but I don't know if those are not really sold in this hobby or what.

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Can anyone ID this crayfish? I've asked /an/ before and got the answer of 'marbled crayfish' but the colors just seem too off. It's about 2.5/3 inches long.

Some background, this crayfish came from a feeder goldfish shipment which came from a farm in Arkansas. Marbleds aren't supposed to be wild, but all the native crays I tried googling don't really match this one.

>>2354407
>>2355469
Impressive.

Somewhat off-topic, but since I'm a /co/ regular, you collector guys know about Ladislas Starevich, right? If not, you might want to. He made some pretty cool stop-motion animation with insects over a century ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U424m8utJnA

>>2361159
You have to be aware that colors in general are a very unreliable method of species determination as they appear different under different lights and, especially in crayfish, are highly individual. They are also influenced by things like the food, recent molts and even the mood of the animal.

Literature for determining crayfish species ignore colors almost completely, so going by pictures is next to useless.
I can't tell you anything from that picture apart from "it might be a Procambarus". Since you can examine the animal in detail I'd suggest you take a look at this: http://iz.carnegiemnh.org/crayfish/Keys/SectionII.htm

>>2361151
>do you pretty much just have to wait and pounce when you see a species you want being for sale?
If you're going for rarer species, yes. Also try looking though classifieds and forum advertisements instead of relying on internet shops to have them available. There are many more species in the hobby but they are almost exclusively privately traded

It also depends on where you're from. The US simply doesn't have Metallyticus, afaik.

>Hierodula venosa
Private breeders, should be relatively easy to get.

>both Rhomboderas
Regularly in shops but expect them later in the year, mantids in general are somewhat seasonal.

>M. splendidus
>I'm new to the mantid hobby
Don't bother, it will be a rather expensive waste of money.

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What kind of Caterpillar is this?
Found it crawling on me an hour ago

>>2361236
Location?

>>2361221
>classifieds and forum advertisements

I go on mantidforum, is there other popular ones? I'm in the US.

>mantids in general are somewhat seasonal

Cool, I kinda figured but wasn't sure what season was when most were sold besides knowing that it wasn't winter.

>Don't bother, it will be a rather expensive waste of money.

I've only heard that they're extremely particular with food, but I haven't looked into keeping them in depth. I like to pin them when they're too old to keep going on, expensive doesn't bother me if I can get a neat pinned specimen.

I wan't planning on buying any right away, just a "maybe eventually" sort of thing.

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>>2361237
>>2361236
San Francisco Bay Area
San Mateo

>>2361240
>>2361236
Some kind of tussock moth caterpillar
Maybe a white-marked one

The hairs can make you itch for a while, so please do not touch it.

>>2361243
>>2361240
Actually its more likely a Western Tussock moth
I'm not too up on american ones, im sorry

https://discord.gg/t8PCxv5

/an/ discord just opened an invert channel.

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>>2361264
This board and general are pretty damn slow. I'm not sure a discord is needed

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Anyone want to try sexing my Avicularia avicularia Petco sp? I'm leaning female.

>>2361296
>adorable tarantula paws
I'm leaning female too, but it's hard to tell since the cute paws are in focus and not the abdomen

>>2361239
>they're extremely particular with food
Among other things, but yes you need a thriving Thermobia culture, which takes at least half a year to set up.


>I like to pin them when they're too old to keep going on, expensive doesn't bother me if I can get a neat pinned specimen.

You can get them dried for (relatively cheap), for example here: http://www.thebugmaniac.com/index.cfm/page:shop/shopcategory:284/shopproduct:6037

Actually, I have to pin and sell mine once they get too old now that I see the price. Thanks for giving me that idea.

>>2361343
wait a sec, M. violaceus are for some reason even more rare and expensive, and I have MORE of those and they were cheaper

I smell profit. Grow up and fuck, you little shits so I can kill you.

I'm kidding, they'll get to life a full and enjoyable life, since mantids don't really break of fall apart as they get older and the colors don't fade on these, so I have no reason to kill them early.

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What kind of caterpillar is this?

>>2361343
Oh I didn't know you could ship dried insects internationally, interesting. Thanks for all this info! I've considered starting a thermobia culture before because my partner is allergic to roaches, I had no idea some mantids preferred them specifically.

>>2360955

I love mantids, but the metalics all look like roaches to me and I don't like it. I need that classic mantis posture.

Sit up you lazy slag!

>>2361464
the pictures don't do them justice, for some reason cameras always make them look grainy and washed out, as if they're dirty

trust me, they are absolutely brilliant in real life

I remember when I was young there was an unusual migration of foreign I think it was African wasps to the uk and I caught two in my garden and kept them in a jar

They were long and slender with a ridiculous sized stinger (maybe two inches?) but I cannot identify them. Can anyone help?

>>2361630
ichneumon wasp

>>2361639
I don't think so. This wasp had a distinct black and white pattern, you got the stinger size right though.

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>>2361644
like this?

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>>2361646
Excuse me I meant to say yellow and black. Similar to this.

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>>2354421
Don't pretend to speak for the insect. I 100% guarantee you that all insects have a great disdain for all things human and if they had there way they'd decimate us all

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>>2361660
>Don't pretend to speak for the insect
>speaks for the insect

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>>2361654
One of these perhaps?

Definitely an Ichneumonid wasp though, they are the only ones with ovipositors that long.

>>2361686
Yeah, I think it might of been that

Cheers lad

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>>2360955
Holy shit, I love your Metallyticus!
I'm amazed that they grow so fast
All the "bark mantids" I know grow relatively slow. Well, I guess they are just special overall

can you please post more pictures?
I always like to look at pics of rare mantids


>I've never seen them offered anywhere so I think they are priceless.
I was just asking, because I'll most likely have some ooths hatch out soon again. So I'll have a few available then

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>>2361693
>I'm amazed that they grow so fast
They don't really gain much size with each molt though, at least not as much as more normal mantids.

>can you please post more pictures?
I took one out to take some proper images but I don't want to spam the thread so I'm just gonna post the link to my flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/frupus/

>I'll most likely have some ooths hatch out soon again. So I'll have a few available then
Holy shit, really? Where did you get them from? If you are in europe I would definitely buy some from you.

>>2361751
Also I tried getting pictures of the violaceus but the fuckers are still too small and too fast. And they jump a lot more than the splendidus so I don't want to risk anything.

Also they are not very spectacular yet, just tiny and black.

>>2361654
That's a siricidae, a horntail

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>>2361751
>Where did you get them from?
via a friend, he caught them in Hong Kong

>If you are in europe I would definitely buy some from you.
yes, I'm from Europe. I will let you know when they hatch. I'm expecting more Ooths to be laid soon, so I think I'll have enough nymphs to give some away.
Oh, they are absolutely tiny as L1, they often don't like D. melanogaster at this stage. Springtails are better.

will post pics of the S. denticulata next week or the following one, when I'm home again. I currently have no pics of them on my phone.

>I'm just gonna post the link to my flickr:
Holy fuck, your pics are absolutely stunning! What camera/lens are you using?
I still have no new cam yet, as you can see from the shit-tier phone pics I post...

>the fuckers are still too small and too fast. And they jump a lot
I know what you mean...
I guess they are even smaller than my teleporting T. servillei

>>2361791
>via a friend, he caught them in Hong Kong
That's awesome dude, I had no idea anyone even had them.

>I will let you know when they hatch
Thank you so much. If you actually want this species to get established in the hobby you shouldn't sell the nymphs to just about anyone but only people that will actually breed them and that you can stay in contact with. That's how Metallyticus are handled at the moment (and why the prices are so high). I'd love to be one of those people.

>Oh, they are absolutely tiny as L1, they often don't like D. melanogaster at this stage. Springtails are better.
If there's one thing I'm not short of its springtails. I have them in pretty much every enclosure at this point. The ones in the Metallyticus enclosures I actually feed too, because I plan to hatch the ooths without removing them and remove the adults instead, so once they hatch they have thousands of springtails as a food source immediatly.

>Holy fuck, your pics are absolutely stunning!
Thank you.

>What camera/lens are you using?
Canon Eos 7D with a Tokina 100mm ATX Pro D and a Walimex ring flash with home made diffuser for light.

>I guess they are even smaller than my teleporting T. servillei
The L1s were about the size of the one in your picture, they're L3 now, so they're getting there. About 7mm long at the moment I'd guess.

How big do the S. denticulata actually get? And is it true they need a diapause?

>>2361855
>I had no idea anyone even had them.
I heard everyone else that had them here in Europe lost their culture, not sure if it´s true tho
I´m sure some people still keep them

>you shouldn't sell the nymphs to just about anyone only people that will actually breed them and that you can stay in contact with.
I never planned on selling them to just anyone. I think the "rarer species" should stay in the hands of real enthusiasts, like you said.. at least in the beginning

But I think Sinomantis will never be too popular, because they do not look as "spectacular" to most people

>hatch the ooths without removing them and remove the adults instead
good Idea

>Canon Eos 7D with a Tokina 100mm ATX Pro D and a Walimex ring flash with home made diffuser for light.
Thanks

>How big do the S. denticulata actually get?
About 3-4cm I´d say, I´ll measure them when I´m home

>And is it true they need a diapause?
Apparently not, but I´ll try it this year and see if it makes a difference
Maybe because these ones are from Hong Kong, where the winters are pretty warm

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>>2361880
>Sinomantis
>not spectacular

are you cereal m8?

who doesn't want a see through mantis with purple spots?

>>2351476
>tfw chitin lacerates my intestines and comes out in my poos
>tfw it feels like passing a brillo pad

I think my lineage didn't eat insects and lost chitinase production.

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>>2353449
Cicindela sexguttata

I love watching them fly from rock to rock, hunting. Here's one I got a pic of some years ago.

>>2356564
try the all animal expo if you're near dupage. They have some nice ones.

>>2362036
Keeping some tiger beetles right now actually, neat beetles

>>2361913
well, I love them

but to most (non-mantid enthusiastic) people they are just tiny yellowish bugs, compared to I. diabolica for example

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Letting my stag wander, and realized,

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>>2362165
He's watching

>>2362165
Whats it like owning beetles like this?
I've always thought about it, but the incredibly short lifespans always turn me off
Do you attempt to breed them before they die
or do you have a like a conveyor belt of pupae in jars of dirt

>tfw super want a giant african millipede
>tfw california

So whats the best hissing cockroach species in your opinion?

also side question does anyone own opilliones? I think I'd be interested in some of the larger tropical varieties

>>2362197
keeping beetles without breeding them has no sense

at least in my opinion, if you keep inverts, the goal dhould always be breeding them

not the anon you replied to btw

>>2362204
>So whats the best hissing cockroach species in your opinion?
Princisia vanwarebeki "big" in my opinion

>anyone own opilliones?
I know that a few species are in the hobby, Metagyndes sp. for example

>>2362217
forgot to mention, I accidentally raised a bunch of our native ones in my millipede enclosures.
that's when I learned that they are omnivores

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>>2362197
I've only owned beetles since January of last year, and I'm living in Japan for a but, so no breeding yet. I want to once I'm back in the US and settled.

Also, they can live a surprisingly long time depending on species. Recently learned that dorcus titanus can live up to five years as an adult.

For my beetles that I know the breeder/the month they pupated:

Japanese rhino beetle: 3 months (summer only)
Fabricei takakuwai: 11 months (pic related, rip)
Dorcus curvidens curvidens: 16 months and still kicking
Rainbow stag: 16 months and still kicking

>>2362226
>Rainbow stag: 16 months and still kicking
didn´t know Phalas could get THIS old, wow

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And of course the new roomies would unwittingly nark on me.

>"nurf hurf" it's hot in his room, I'm mocing in the other one."
>"Oh! Why so?"
>"Deet dur, he's got a tarantula in there and she needs heat."
>"Well, what do you have to say for yourself anon?"

Apparently in this dry-ass Idaho weather, the 75 fucking degree heat will cause mold and damage the apartment. Now I have to talk to the school about getting her a new home in one of the science buildings. Hopefully the entomology department will take her under their wing.

Fuck this, man.

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>>2362495
>75 fucking degree heat
>hot

Normies are truly retarded.

>>2362547
If it's indoors, 75 is actually really uncomfortable. It's great outside weather, but inside, you're literally the asshole roommate who wants it hotter than anyone else likes it.

>>2362495
Guess you should have lived off campus if you wanted a pet. Or maybe you should have thought before you went and got a pet on a whim. Hell, a heat lamp and some courtesy would have worked. Basically the fault is with you and your lack of planning, don't blame your roommates.

>>2362613
>Guess you should have lived off campus if you wanted a pet.
That just it though. I talked too the school and they said I could have her.

>Or maybe you should have thought before you went and got a pet on a whim
I've been wanting her for 14 years.

>Basically the fault is with you and your lack of planning, don't blame your roommates.
I've planned this over the course of the entire semester. All my roommates promised not to nark because they know the landlord is a stickler.

>If it's indoors, 75 is actually really uncomfortable. It's great outside weather, but inside, you're literally the asshole roommate who wants it hotter than anyone else likes it.
My previous roommate was just fine with it.

>>2362613
>>2362860
And besides, if 75 is really that bad to you, you've never lived in Florida.

>>2362861
Why the fuck would I ever want to live in Florida?

That would require... living in Florida lmfao

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>>2362867
>Why the fuck would I ever want to live in Florida?
>That would require... living in Florida lmfao

Well, if your're in Osceola/Orange counties, you always have something to do because of the attractions and all the tourist traps on 192 that heavily discount Florida citizens.

There's also the beaches if you're in the coastal areas, especially in Pinellas (Clearwater, Howard beach, Tarpon Springs, etc)

But other than that, yeah, it's pretty much just heat humidity and sadness.

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>>2362867
Why would you want to live in America?

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>>2350917
god fucking dammit this is disturbing, why the fuck does this thing exist? why would you wnat to hold it? fuck sake why would you let it bite you?!?!?!
all of this is wrong, fucking wrong

ya'll know if i can buy mantids from other countries ?
in australia

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>>2362483
I read a care sheet once that said 12-18 months, so we'll see how he does. He's still perky, they're a great species.

>>2362923
try it, m8

>>2362877
wetas are actually pretty cool. i used to find them when i was poking around in the garden as a kid, and the general rule of thumb is the bigger they are the neater they are

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>>2362933
Did you ever feed them?

>>2362929
Has he ever attempted to bite you?

Would it hurt?

>>2362861
Good god, you're forcing them to live at 75 in Florida. No wonder they ratted you out.

>>2362979
>75 in Florida

It's in Idaho and it hasn't gotten above 40 here

>>2362929
is that a super-green or does it just look like that because of the pic?

>>2362981
I live in Minnesota, 75 is still an uncomfortable indoor temperature.

>>2362985
welp

>>2361880
Oh by the way, I'd be more than happy to give you some Metallyticus in exchange, if I have some offspring until then.

How come the general for the most autistic pets is also the least autistic general?

I guess fish might be on the same level but that general fits the hobby, as it is literally the most autistic shitposting hellhole on this entire board.

>>2363097
How are pet rocks autistic? Autistic people like lots of stimulation and animals they can interact with. Ours just sit there a lot of the time and don't really like being handled.

If anything, cats and dogs seem like the best kind of autistic pet.