Why were racoons never domesticated?

>>2341358

Too THICC

They are our pets already without us knowing, why make it complicated?

theyre really cute !

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they're the autismos of the animal world

>>2341358

I dont know this, but I would assume their is some risk for cross-contagion.

You have the teeth and claws like a cat or ferret, but the dexterity of a primate, the irrationality of a squirrel and the varied diet of a rat.

Combined, this means it can make the irrational decision to chew on bio-hazardous waste because it suspects it might be food, get the substance into its claws and teeth and then want to 'play' by clawing at you.

A cat is less likely to fixate on wastes because it has a distinct narrow sense of food, a dog will investigate anything but doesnt have the dexterity to manipulate it with claws. If its not food, it moves on.

That is just my theory. Squirrels make chaotic pets if attempted; I imagine its only worse if the animal is more given to curiosity and thinking garbage is a buffet.

Perhaps the one word that makes or breaks the audition to the pet world is 'house breaking'. A racoon is not a candidate for a cage, and I dont suspect it can be housebroken either.

In the co-habitation of animals and humans, what to do with poop is sort of a big deal.

>>2341418
>and I dont suspect it can be housebroken either.
Ive known a few people who have kept them as pets, and every one of them were house trained and used litter boxes like a cat.

too bad they take "house-breaking" way too literally

>>2341407
canines shred shit too if they can't make an easy quick kill.

The reason raccoons haven't been domesticated is because theres no reason to, they don't have a use outside of being a pet like the other domesticated animals. Maybe in another 5000 years. Also stop making these fucking threads

>>2341407
Yeah like nobody ever killed a chicken.
Koonies r kool

>>2341418
> the varied diet of a rat
Huh? The varied diet of Humanity
Raccoons just like people will eat anything.........
>>2341485

In my state I can get a raccoon for a pet. I'd need to go through Fish & Wildlife to get a permit first though, but I heard those are only like five bucks. How they get you is it may or may not be legal to purchase or import a raccoon here. I know with skunks I can legally own one, but am banned from buying them. It's a cruel catch-22. People have to go to other states and drive them back home (can't ship them in) and then I don't know all the red tape you have to go through to bring an out-of-state animal across the border. But if you succeed you can keep it.

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what about tanukis?

>>2341508
Make a thread faggot this is 4 koonies

>>2341358
>... never domesticated
if medium sized dogs were the best in mouse catching, we wouldn't even have our cats or they would be as niche in use as medieval ferrets. Now the real cat selection breeding is just about 100 years old, so you can say domestication for the purpose of domestication is of about the same age. So, give it 100-200 more years

>>2341418
>>2341419
you can teach them to shit in the toilet as well.

Because they are native to the new world, where the agricultural revolution took longer to take hold.

>>2341497
That picture is obviously shopped. Also, just because racoons (and humans) CAN eat something doesn't mean they SHOULD. Giving a properly balanced diet is one of the most important jobs of owners

>>2341358
I hear they're mean when they get older and I'm inclined to believe that

>>2341549
This is the real answer

On a related note, I've been thinking of adopting a coatimundi. Just like raccoons they supposedly can get aggressive with age, but I don't know if people take into account neutering.

>>2341358
>thicc

>>2341648
>fluffy

Enjoy your roundworms

>>2341508
Do they actually have giant balls?

>>2341652
>nuu

We all know they are nature's ninjas...

>>2341492
It's just the method that I find horrifying.

>>2341671
no. The reason being is tanuki is a duality word and it relates to anything around the size of a raccoon dog. Japanese badgers are also known as tanuki in some precinct areas, more than likely this is where that large scrotum thing came from too as badgers tend to have above average testicles to body scale

They're just difficult to rear in captivity. They have hands that can operate most basic latches and wreck havoc on any switches or buttons you have around your house. You have to put covers on all your exposed wiring like you have a parrot in the house. They're too smart, they get bored and you have to litter your house with toys for stimulation. Their diet is finicky, and requires a wide array of nutrients from both plant and animal matter. They'll take shit from you and hide it in odd ends of your house, they'll pull out your drawers and cupboards and scatter shit all over the place looking for food. They will always be a small risk to anyone who isn't the owner (and health authorities will put down pet raccoons if anyone gets hospitalized - they don't give a fuck about your feelings).

>>2341508
Tanukis are actually really fucking friendly and don't go crazy once they reach sexual maturity like racoons. The main problem is they're nocturnal, need a lot of space and are hard to own outside of Japan. Plus dogs and many other animals are mistreated by the average retard so it's for the best they're not domesticated.

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>>2341743
>japanese badger
badger ferret

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raccoons are cool

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>>2341976

>>2341400
pretty sure he's trying to suck his own dick

>>2341983
sniffin his koonie sphincter

>>2341358
because they never did anything good for people

pretty sure we used to use coons for labor and domestic chores.

It's illegal now, I think.

When I was very young I used to trick or treat at a house that had a pet raccoon. Thing was fat as shit waddling around. They had a gumball machine with some kind of treat in there and the coon would put a quarter in and turn it and get the treats to come out. As a eight year-old that was pretty damn impressive.

>>2342343

>now I can get fat

直接話法と間接話法

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>>2342343
finally a reason to post this

>>2341400
ROLLIN' AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

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Praise the raccoon god!

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Why do the Florida Keys have the cutest deer and cutest racoons? They're as cute as the people there are crazy (Florida man anyone?)

The fuck is up with that place

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>>2342619

It is deceptive. They run a clever tourist industry, but in reality, the entire southeast tip of Florida is one long city stretching from Key Largo all the way up the coast. The further south you go, the more its like some sort of surreal modern colony among a third world. You can drive 3 miles without turning and see ghettos, luxury condos, wasteland and McMansions. And thats the civilized part.

Then there is the everglades. If you go more than 25 miles inland, you are in something out of a LOTR movie. Even scarier than the landscape and animals is that people actually live in there.

Ive seen grasshoppers that were neon colors. Plants that appeared like something from the Jurassic era. Once I thought I got buzzed by a small bird once only to realize it was a beetle half the size of my fist.

Like they say, the nice thing about Florida is that it is so close to the United States. Thats the flattering side. I'll shut up before I start describing the locals. Floridans are to Americans how Americans appear to non-Americans.

>>2342662
>the nice thing about Florida is that it is so close to the United States
The fuck are you on about? Florida is part of the US.

This is all why they are my #1 favorite animal. But they are probably too clever, and they have thumbs so it's not in our best interest to make them more intelligent...

>>2341508
They are dirty. As in, you can have one and keep it clean, but it is a carrier of many things like a bat.

Unless wherever I read that was entirely wrong.

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>>2342691

If you say so.

>>2342691
Must be a Floridian

>>2342691
No it isn't, are you retarded? The name of the country is the panhandle of florida.

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what's on TV today, buddy

>>2342662
That looks like a good place to live my /k/ fantasies.

Florida real estate is insane though.

>>2343051
If you're a mook who can't clear land or dig a well, sure.

>>2341358
They are cunts. They eat and steal everything that is put in their path. They are the niggers of the animal kingdom.

>>2342367
lol

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Hey guize

can I get free shit now? I'm totally not a dog

>>2341958
There's apparently wild Tanuki in the black forest in Germany and in the forests of Illinois.

You could you know, head out there with a trap and catch a pup or two if you live close enough to either area.

>>2343534
HOLY FUCK I COULD ACTUALLY SEE A WILD TANUKI THEN.
>a new life goal: achieved

>>2341358
I think it would be cool if some families all over the word create domesticated species over a long time. like these russian people do with foxes. We could have all kinds of cool pets like larger more intelligent ravens, racoons and so on

I raised three as pets, they are fun until they aren't. Their jaw might as well be a vise grip and they can basically turn around in their skin to bite you when it comes time for shots and nail trimmings. They also have real weight problems and get fat very very easily. They get into everything, and will hide your stuff if they take a liking to it.

Definitely not a good pet for people who have a job, or kids, or other pets, or anything that takes up any of their time at all.

>>2343792
So basically only old women should collect raccoons instead of 50 cats?

>>2341358
It takes many years to fully domesticate a species. There was no need to do so with coons.
They're also gigantic cunts, my grandparents rescued a baby years back.

https://youtu.be/REIoVYFtCho

Cause they wilin

>>2343534
>>2343537
minor correction, they're all over europe, russia and china as well.

mostly russia's fault apparently, and the ones in illinois are also found throughout canada and spreading throughout the great lakes area as well. it seems that one was canada's fault.

>>2343951
I live in the US and while I have an exotic animals license, I don't fuck with importing though.

>>2341400
>VERY fast coon rolling at incredible high speed

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>>2343534
>mfw it's entirely and 100% legal to kidnap invasive sp. from the wild and do whatever you like with them provided they never see the outside again

Time to go to Illinois and kidnap myself a racoon dog

>>2341358
They were always viewed as pests and garbage eaters, thus nobody ever wanted them around due to being pissed off and repulsed at them already.

>>2341358
They're a fairly common pet in Siberian towns

>>2344316
>in Siberian towns

Racoons can still move at -50°C?

People can barely handle dogs and many people hate cats. There's no way they could appreciate an animal that is smarter than them.

Also that fucker has hands. He can do anything

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>>2344533
there are cats with evolved thumbs but you're right, they lack the brain power to make use of it.

>>2341358
For the same reason monkeys aren't popular pets. Very high maintenance and potentially disastrous.

Because people who want intelligent animals that destroy your house just buy parrots.

>>2343486
seconded

>>2343534
>and in the forests of Illinois.

Source? I've lived on the Indiana Illinois line my entire life and I didn't know we had forests or raccoon dogs.

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dun dun dun dunnnnnn

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not racoons but probably similarly inappropriate as pet

>>2344585
> I didn't know we had forests
Hoosier here. WTF are you smoking man?

is it true that if you see wild raccoons during the day they have rabies?

>>2341400
That's chimpanzees anon.

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>>2344585

>>2344609
Do you know if we have any in Indiana? I feel like this is such a flyover state we wouldn't even get an invasive species.

>>2344672
There is plenty of woodlands and apparently they can survive the winters if they are in Illinois.
I'm very uneducated about these animals, and this is the first I've ever heard of them being that close, so by no means would I be considered an authority on the subject.

>>2344609

The only "forest" we have worthy of the name is the Hoosier national forest, and even then is a joke compared to what they have up north.

>>2344657

>manicured parks you can walk through(but only on approved trails) in a day

Hardly counts to be honest.

>>2344672

I work at a fairly large park in northern central Indiana over the summers and I have never heard of anyone seeing them around. Grew up in Newton County and spent a large percentage of my time outdoors and never saw one or even heard of one until this thread.

>>2344718
Indiana has lots of farm ground. It's understandable that we don't have large swaths of old growth forests,especially up north. We do have places, just on a smaller scale.
To say we have none is not correct when state parks, wildlife sanctuaries, and other public access sites can be found within a 1-2 hour drive of anywhere in the state.

>>2344736

Three trees and a bike path is not a forest, it's not even a woods.

>>2344672
The ones that made it to the US are usually escapees from Canadian fur farming operations - or simply were dumped into the wild whenever environmental groups get such a place shut down.

They cover an incredibly large amount of land and can swim long distances when seeking out new territory.

>>2342691
THE CONCH REPUBLIC WILL RISE AGAIN

>>2341358
WTF WHY IS IT TO THICC?

When i was a kid we used to fish at this private lake near my house. One time i had a loaf of bread that i was trying to catch carp with and a racoon came over and sat near me watching. After one time of watching me open the bread and get a slice out the racoon waited until i was a few feet away then walked over opened the plastic bag with his hands, reached in, took one slice out, then pushed the plastic back down like he was closing it. Then he went over and dunked the bread in the water and ate it. He kept coming back, like 5 times he came over opened the bag took out one slice and closed the bag again. He was just like hey don't mind me bro just eating a little lunch lol. I'd see him down there all the time when i was fishing after that looking for a free meal. Sometimes he would sit there and just watch us like he was studying things. They are smart little fuckers.

>>2341358

You're an idiot if you keep an adult racoon as a pet

>>2345028
they get fat easily

>>2341400
xxxx is on tge run
sonic had lots of fun
sonic is coming next so
WATCH.OUT for son8c x

>>2341400
>makin' my way downtown..

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>>2342524
finally a reason to post this

>>2342513
I can read Japanese and your post still doesn't make sense.

>>2344604

I mean if you want a pet that dumpster-tier, you might as well keep Canadian geese at that point.

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>>2341400
that explains why I love them so much

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araisan's thread nanoda!

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>>2345364

The amount of enthusiasm an animal gets from the act of eating is interesting. As with sex, theres no reason to assume the creature has an understanding of what the function of a drive is. Not all animals may interpret it the same way.

So I wonder where the relish comes from, simply filling the stomach, hormonal relief, or is there an association of joy with particular tastes.

>>2342691
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>>2344604
Possums don't live long enough to be that good of pets.

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>>2343051

Indeed. Make sure you check the Florida Man twitter though, they are all true (and terrifying) stories of the criminally weird.

The reason people like to associate Florida with its beaches is because if you aren't near a beach, you are either in a swamp, in a former swamp, or in a swamp waiting to happen. You dont have to be right on a coast, but you dont want to be far from one.

The "Everglades" makes it sound nice. But when you have man-eating lizards roaming around and -literally- a growing python infestation problem spreading like wildfire, you dont want to plant roots in a rural area and then parse the scholarly argument of whether your home is more in a swamp or in a jungle.

You dont need beach-front, but stay close to the coast. If you do find quasi-civilization in the north interior like Orange county, you are surrounded by ponds absolutely everywhere, and instead of dangerous animals, you have the people.

But yeah the real estate can be high. There are many less glamorous, highly underated areas in the north of the state also, both coastal and inland. But beware, summers can be utterly brutal.

>>2345969
I'd be more worried of mosquitoes and fire ants, than alligators and pythons. Don't they have botflies down south too?

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>>2345973

Those are legitimate issues. I recall a kid in the south being killed by fire ants, and the mosquito danger is well known. The zika issue is pretty much under control, for now.

There is also the weather to consider, it isnt all nice.

Regarding botflies- I am not aware of any presence in the US/Florida of the type you are probably thinking of.

I think there have been freak cases, but they were excpetional. The type you are probably thinking of was almost certainly introduced to Florida at some point because every damn creature from the hemisphere seems to arrive there eventually because of shipping, smuggling etc. But it would appear that the human parasitic variety has never been able to get a footing in the ecosystem. The cattle and northern variety in other areas of the US are a different story.

On the bright side, if you ever did get a botfly problem, you are a human in the modern US and it can be quickly treated, unlike the advanced horrors you may have seen in animals and in less fortunate parts of the world. They are easily prevented, and easily removed with a bit of iodine. The real danger would be not noticing, and that would more likely someone of age or other medical conditions who may not be as sensitive to wounds, like diabetics.

>>2342367
Racoons seem to be more civilized.

>>2345364
why do they chew so weird?

Ahhhh tanuki Mario......

>>2345793
It has to be the taste. There's no way that grape has hit his stomach yet let alone sent out signals of feeling full. It's like when you have a real good strong coffee first thing in the morning and that first sip makes you shudder. Tongues are marvelous things.

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>tfw to intelligent to be a pet

>>2345793
Well my cat loves yogurt, but she hates the flavors that are more tart, like blueberry

>>2346189
I wonder if those cats think he's just another cat or if they recognize he's a different species.

>>2346280
There's evidence that implies that cats see humans as big weird versions of cats, there's a webm that explains this. So maybe they think it's just a weird cat.

>>2343883
If she has a cement room for them to play in, yes. Koonies need their own rooms. (Preferably not one where they can dig into the walls.)

>>2346293
/r/ing said webm

>>2346189

lol, how he looks away in fear the cat might bash him but he still does it

>>2346296
>cement room

So basically a prison cell?

domesticated? no.

pets? yes

there are a lot of old b&w photos with peoples pet racoons.

>>2346293
I've heard dogs do the same shit with humans, as well. Just a super smart, bipedal, immortal pack leader dog.

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They're kikes.

>>2341506
>banned from buying skunk

What did you DO?

>>2346305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLb9EIiSyG8

>>2347557
Not me personally, I just meant banned as a citizen of the state from buying one, no one here can. The purchase/sale of them is forbidden, but not the ownership.

>government logic

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>2347771
>government logic

It makes it legal for people to 'rescue' and rear them, but prevents the selling/breeding/capturing to sell. think deeper.

>>2347867
In order to quote someone you click on thier post number at the top right of the post. This will highlight that post number in your reply, making it far easier to see than just some numbers in green text.
Think deeper.

>>2347652
When did /x/ started making videos about animals?

>>2345160
Kek

>>2341358
Too THICC to be domesticated.

>>2343951
From fur farming right?

>>2345973
There's animal botflies known as cuterebra found in the continental US, my aunt in Michigan got a cat with some, but I'm not sure if it was a rescue from down south somewhere

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>>2347937

I dont use run scripts on this page, so I sometimes forget to use the right markups.

You however, attempted to counter a lack of logical and analytic thinking on your part by calling out my incorrect syntax grammar. laughable.

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>>2343792

After some digging I found pic related.

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>>2348815

I'm trying find pictures of when they got older, but I'm not having much luck.

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I love raccoons so much. I have a giant birdhouse in my backyard for owls and this one raccoon has been living in it for a couple years now.

It even had babies one time and seeing them made my days a little bit better.

Fuck opossums though they're no as cute in real life as some pictures make them. Also they're super mean unlike raccoons who will be bros for the most part.

>>2348739
That's a lot of words for "I fucked up, but I somehow think I'm smarter than you"

>>2344562
Or make babies.

>>2348382
yeah - some of them are even from attacks from eco-terrorists who then just let the things scramble into the woods

I can't imagine it would be too hard to train a cub

>>2341971
delete

cause they fucking have hands and that makes me (and im sure plenty of other humans) super unconfortable

>>2348822
Opossums aren't mean, this meme needs to die. They just hiss at everything and look ugly.

>>2347652
kek what a load of crap

>>2349639
Dream of racoon handjobs and your disconfort will be gone

>>2349433
>attacks from eco-terrorists who then just let the things scramble into the woods
That's a good way to fuck an entire ecosystem

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>>2341743
That's not the reason. Tanuki scrotums are good for making gold leaf, the leather is perfectly pliable and stretchy.

Tofugu explains it:

>How did tanuki come by this unique magic? It's got nothing to do with sexual >prowess (this is never a feature of tanuki legends). The generally accepted >?>explanation is a lot less fun for the tanuki. In the old days, metal workers in >Kanazawa would wrap gold in the skin of tanuki testicles when making gold leaf. >You want to hammer your gold to the thinnest sheet possible. So you need a skin >that can stretch a long way without breaking. It was said a tanuki scrotum could >reach the size of eight tatami.

>What clinched it, though, was probably the pun: kin no tama "small ball of gold" >and kintama, slang for testicles. Tanuki scrotums began to be sold as wallets and >lucky charms, said to stretch your money the way they stretched the gold.

I live in Japan and absolutely adore tanuki.

>>2341358
FUCKING THICC

>>2351286
No wonder the country is so perverse if this is what they teach their little kids.

>>2345793
there is this place near my house that does Tennessee style BBQ and I swear I get that reaction whenever I eat there

maybe I'm just fat but god it's one of the few pleasures I've had this year and the last year

>>2341358
Probably because most domestication back then was based off of need. Which is why cats and dogs were domesticated.

>>2341400
Jesus fuck, I nearly pissed myself.

>>2342619
>>2342662
I lived on sugarloaf key (19miles from key west) and the deer are awesome. The raccoons are disgusting though and would always throw trash everywhere. I just got into the Ant keeping hobby and really wish I could go back down there and get a queen from this one species, I can't remember what it was but man they were big. I miss Florida.

>>2342691
People as dumb as you are the reason the world is in the mess it is right now.

>>2341358
They need to serve a use for humans to be domesticated. See the definition of domesticated

>>2351763

I think you better look it up first bucko.

>>2351745
That's mean :(

>>2341358
Well they're omnivores so they don't have the hunting instincts of a canine or feline. If they had a more meat based diet I'm sure the native americans would have put forth the effort.

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>>2351631
>The raccoons are disgusting though and would always throw trash everywhere.
do they look like this?

>>2351784
>coon trying to steal from average hardworking citizen
>man defends himself and his property
>hurr durr that's mean

>>2351909
Nigs aren't domesticated either

>>2352006
We did for a while but then a bunch of activists break them free and now they run in the wild.

>>2341508
god damn he cute.

>>2346280
Not sure, but I have a couple of cats, and there's a raccoon that lives under my shed. I'll look outside and see them all eating the cat food I left out together. They're certainly all friendly with each other.

>>2351745
>>2351784
>>2351988
it was attacking his tiny shit tier rat dog, so he picked it up and threw it

>>2343051
on the plus side once you own your property you don't have to pay shit for it ever again

>>2352258
i mean it's easy to cast blame on the conservationists, but the real blame is on the people who introduced them in the first place. they're an invasive species that add close to nothing to their environments. some people find them cute i guess but i'd just as soon see them culled for good

I did some research for these people that want to keep raccoons as pets, the rabiës and disease transferring is no big deal as you can shot against that.
The problem is that raccoons are too curious and strong willed to be pets. From what I read they will plunder all the cabinets, scratch up your furniture and throw a hissy fit at you if you get angry at them for it. We need more domestic generations until we have a breed that is low maintenance and safe.
If you really need to take a pest animal in your home, consider these. They are already safe and docile enough to keep as pets.
Offshore Georgian ones got a gene that makes thme live 50% longer, so your pet Possum can become 6.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnhTO30VY-M

>>2341400
Sonic has really let himself go.

>>2341487
wat.

>>2341487
My dogs also hug like this.

>>2352631
Should've just thrown the rat tbqh

>>2341549
+1

>>2342524
Kek'd & saved. Thx anon!

>>2352006
>>2352258
>>2352641
I love you /an/

>>2341358
They don't make good house pets. They make holes in your walls and ceilings. They pass everywhere.

>>2349433
Didn´t them let some minks run away and the minks started killing everything in the area?

>>2341751
That sounds awesome.

>>2341358
THICCOON

>>2351620
Exactly I was going to comment that. Domesticating animals for being companions (pets) is a modern trend, in the past people domesticated animals out of necessity and usefulness

>>2342193
Lmfao i almost didnt catch that

>>2342416
>>2342416
It would probably be the easiest way to collect all the change around your house. Have some fat raccoon searching constantly

>>2343534
My gf is from rural illinois I from mo ill get to the bottom of the tanukis being in IL. Ive never seen anything like it personally

>>2344294
Your pic looks really familiar do i know you? Im from stl

>>2344814
Preach

>>2345133
Thats almost creepy i like my animals dumber than my friends. Its an ego thing lol

>>2344603
There's something wrong with that cat.

>>2351745
>that little piece of dog fur that comes out of its hand

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>>2342691

>>2351745
GET BACK TO WORK RIGBY

>>2346113
No salivary glands.

>>2341400
Expert stealth infiltrator!

>>2344324
With enough vodka, yes

Cats eat the grain-stealing mice and rats that infest ships and barns.

Dogs hunted alongside us, ate our scraps, and guarded our backs.

Horses, donkeys, and camels are beasts of burden.

Ferrets could also be used to hunt rats and run cables through tunnels.

What use is a raccoon? They aren't pretty and they are too big to keep in cages or tanks like birds or fishes.

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Better get some pepecash instead of racoons and try to domestic the famous pepecash if you can, it will bring you more health to your body as well.

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Raccoons have domesticated, in the past. In the first half of the twentieth century, raccoons and skunks were actually pretty popular as household pets, and were sold in pet stores.

But around the 1960s, cities started enacting zoning and animal husbandry laws that made it difficult to keep them as pets, and the fashion kind of died out.

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>>2355996
They can recycle our garbage.

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>>2342662
Y'know, the Everglades would be a good location for Survivor.

>>2342367
That's because the raccoons are afraid of the human. The key is to make sure the dunecoons are afraid of the Europeans.

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>>2341526
Is that where they got their nickname?

>>2341358
>They're intelligent, love to live where people are and actually push really hard to become pets.
You described them, but you never gave a reason for them to be domesticated.

>>2354324
I'm the president of the United States.

>>2355996
Raccoons could have been used as spies in times of war because they are sneaky and clever.

>>2356148
I think they are too independent to be trusted, they aren't pack animals the way dogs are. There is nothing we can reward them with that they can't steal themselves, other than vet care, but I don't think they have the IQ to understand that.

>>2342805
>I thought you said you were getting a job.

>>2356075
Play lump

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You guys just keep this thread alive because you don't want to let go of the THICCNESS

>>2357586
I tried, no one's hiring.

>>2351745
Fucking cunt. I hope it gave him some kind of blood disease in the fight.

My grandma had one ~10 years ago. Super smart animal, they actually potty trained it. It wouldn't flush but it shit in the toilet and that's pretty cool. They kept it for a few years and one day it freaked out and "attacked" grandma, which I'm sure was because she was fucking with it, so they let it go.

>>2358193

no, didn't someone say earlier they just become total assholes at some point?

>>2358193
>steal animal from the wild
>imprint it onto humans with no survival skills
>throw it out to die slowly via nature when it bites you

Why don't retards just buy a fucking dog?

>>2341358
cuz they are mean as fuck when they get older
few raccoons are totally mellow and they love to burrow into walls and ceilings.

>>2358277
Anon, why do you think there's a coon population in Japan?

A bunch of people imported them as pets and when they got old enough they started acting up like that anon's grandma's, so they set them free in the wild.

>>2344545
Bah, just cross breed that punk with a Siamese, and promptly start sweating bullets, monkey!

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>>2358351

START SWEATING THEN.

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>>2358371

>>2341400
Excellent dubs

>>2341358
look at that thicccc racoon

The rabies shots don't always work on racoon.

Also why does spellcheck say racoons is wrong? Is it like moose?

>>2359100
Whoa, shit!

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Raccoons are cute and not Tanuki's, Tanuki's are canines.

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>>2345722
>>>/a/

>>2359100
Because there's 2 c's in raccoons.

>>2341358
Most animals were domesticated for specific reasons. Ie. Dogs for hunting/guarding, cats for pest control, and even Guinea Pigs for meat. It's only relatively recently domestics have been kept as pets, which is why some dog breeds have trouble adapting to pethood and not doing what they were bred for.

The issue with domesticating raccoons is simply there's no fucking reason to do it. I guess now you could do it if you wanted to have one as a pet, by why waste the effort? The recent domestication of the fox is still not profitable or widespread, so what incentive is there to repeat the process with an animal most consider pests?

>>2359484
minor point - domesticated guinea pigs are still humungous assholes, though not nearly as much as a wild one. the same can be said for dog breeds that are still raised for meat - they is no real need for extended interaction for them so they aren't nearly as tame as working dogs or cats.

Animals that have been farmed for their fur are even less tame - which would be the practical purpose for a raccoon.

>>2359484
>>2359491
minor correction - the domesticated guinea pigs I was referring to are Cuy - specifically the ones kept for meat who are considerably larger and have more violent dispositions than pet store guinea pigs.

>>2341358
Because they lived on north america.

Before the Indians could advance to the point of a settled agricultural based existence Europeans showed up.

I do agree with this >>2359484 anon, not sure if they would bother to tame raccoons as they are seemingly useless to primitive peoples.

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Hey!! What about Cozumel Raccoons? They're somewhat smaller, and maybe less conniving.

I'm not sure if they should be taken in though, considering that they're critically endangered, and if there was a seemingly-established domestic population, tourism-developers would treat this as an excuse to roll over the last bit of their habitat proudly.

>>2346280
Probably not.

You'd think they should, I mean, different smell, plus different size.

But, I had a cat and dog that were the same size, and they seemed to pick up considerable behaviours from each other. So no wonder that grubby one there slips under the radar.

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>>2359497
But if they had advanced that far, they presumably would have travelled to Japan and just pick up some dogges.

Or acquired some Eskimo Dogs. Or they could have domesticated wolves.

Raccoons wouldn't be particularly useful in place of cats because they're too omnivorous.

>>2346189
i just can't look at that running pose and not laugh

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>>2342524
>arai-san...

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>>2362127
That anime made me interested in animals again.

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>>2362421

Should check out Murenase! Shiiton Gakuen as well

https://rapemanscans.wordpress.com/

>>2341358
>wanting something with hands to be your pet
Enjoy stuff being thrown at you.

For such cute animals, it's surprising they are not common mascots

I hate raccoons and find them repulsive personally. They're the worst wildlife to have visit your backyard, they'd destructive cunts like someone else said, and I don't think they're cute at all.

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>>2356028
It's not toilet bears, it's trash pandas.

Also do not domesticate raccoons. They are vicious.

>>2364246
Wouldn't domesticating them will make them less vicious?

>>2364269
That would be extremely painful

>>2345133
Q T
i never had an up close interaction with a racoon before i wish i was blessed

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>>2341358
>Be me.
>Family is a bunch of hicks, but in a lovable way.
>They convince me to go four wheel riding with them
>On the trail we find a baby racoon by itself on the ground, middle of the day, rooting around a tree.
>it's definitely not old enough to be away from its mother.
>Dad picks it up, throws it in the trunk of the fourwheeler
>Wtf are you doing this is a bad idea
>End up keeping it in an old ferret cage.
>Gave it baby formula in a bottle
>It was very viscous until it realized we were giving it food, then it immediately calmed down.
>Name him Pico
>Within 24 hours it was one of the most affectionate pets I'd ever had, would start whining any time you put him down.
>None of us know what the fuck we're doing.
>I kept saying we should take him to a vet, no one listens.
>A few days later he just gets sick and dies.
>Most likely either because we fed it while it was dehydrated, or we were leaving it alone in its cage overnight and apparently they can't make their own body heat at that age.

It's probably the worst I've ever felt about a pet dying. The only thing that makes me feel better about it is the fact that it almost definitely wouldn't have survived if we'd left it alone.

Wouldn't let me upload the webm here so I linked it.
https://webmshare.com/KEz0V

>>2364948
Actually hurt a little to read that, poor coon bro

>>2343534
I live in northern suburbs of Illinois How do I find one, Id love to kidnap one and like go through drive throughs and shit

>>2347652
Sweet mother of fuck! I've never seen anything in my life that can accurately be described as "nightmare fuel" until now.

>>2347652
I'd pet that cat.

>>2359497
Native Americans were all farmers on the east coast from above Maine to northern Florida by the time Europeans showed up.

>>2364948
RIP Pico <3

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>>2359497
If anything Europeans destroyed the settled, agrarian way of life for the North American native, unintentionally though diseases. Many tribes like the Cherokee and Muscogee adopted horses (a European import) and horse-based nomadism after smallpox. Very few tribes continued the ancient traditions, like the Natchez.

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The racoon and the fennec are the best friends forever.

>>2341418
You sound like a massive autistic faggot

>>2341705
OOOOOooooh sheeeIIIIIT!

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>>2341358
>wanting a 'coon in your house

>>2364364
You're a big guy

>>2341358
"ring-tailed cats" were used as pets and they are raccoons by blood, only smaller and even more frightened-looking.

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>>2342696
>so it's not in our best interest to make them more intelligent

Or is it?

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>>2347652

>>2356016
People might actually die

>>2359654
If somebody invested in domesticating them, they would invest in repopulation. It's longterm but the results could revolutionize the pet industry.

>>2347652
That scientist is such a qt

>>2347652
Jesus fuck that was scary.

I wish I was a Neurobiology Major. :/

They're inquisitive, can climb high, fit in small places, and they have strong jaws and very dexterous hands. The moment one gets bored, your house gets ripped apart.

>>2342367
It slays me how they all take the chips with their hands, not their mouths.

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>>2349950


I think so too. I have to call bullshit on that. There is absolutely no way to reconstruct imagery from nerve impulses. People like to make analogies from brains to computers, but the comparisons are limited.

Five people looking at an apple are going to 'see' and construct the 'image' in their heads five different ways.

If I showed you a picture of a hotel room, or a city street corner, or a kitchen corner, you are going to 'see' things differently than others. Different things will stick out to you more than others. And thats before you even account for associations framing the experience.

It would be nice, and it does follow that brains must have some common factors or we would never agree on what a color is. Most of the real physics happens before the light ever gets from eyeball to brain.

The organic construction of nerve impulses of any kind simply doesnt allow easy 'decoding'. Im not saying shes attempting fraud, but the experiment is flawed somewhere.

Imagine trying that with any other sense. It doesnt work, but then it would be obvious.

I could believe that you could isolate factors, like light and dark, or maybe motion, and just maybe color and the perception of scale in degrees of perspective. But actual pictures is just folly.

This is how and why we have language, because thought impulses are not directly transferable, and even language is exceedingly inefficient and prone to mistakes more often than not.

If I use the word dog, everyone imagines a different thing. Whats amazing is that if I show you a picture or even a real one, your imagination is still filling in tons of what you assume is information about what you are actually 'seeing'. Vision is a surprisingly abstract, passive experience. We only assume that because we can isolate and notice common aspects (once pointed out) that we are 'seeing' the same thing. Much of that is conclusion. Our eyes are remarkably the same. Its what happens in the interpretation thats so different.

>>2342662
>You can drive 3 miles without turning and see ghettos, luxury condos, wasteland and McMansions.
Sounds like Argentina

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>tfw I saw a raccoon today

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>check /an/ to see if there's a wolf thread
>get distracted by the racoon thread instead

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>>2341400
CHECK 'EM!