Is a coyote a wolf or a dog?

>>2316149
usually

>>2316149
looks like a doge

2316149
looks like a wolf

it's the step in between being a dog from being a wolf. if you could catch a coyote you could teach it to play fetch etc. much like a gorilla. you can't teach a wolf because it's too stupid to learn, like a dumber type of monkey like a spider monkey or something that's far away from being a human

>>2316162
t. retard

wolves are significantly more intelligent than domestic dogs.

>>2316169
? no lol

>smarter than a dog
>lives outside in the cold and has to hunt for food

an wolf is a dumbass compared to a dog

>>2316176
>has to hunt for food
that is precisely why it is, and in fact has to be, smarter

>>2316179
its why its stupid

>>2316173
Trainable =/= intelligent

>>2316173
They're better at problem solving but worse at theory of mind and reading human social cues

Neither. It's a canine, but it is not canis lupus or canis lupus familiaris, it's canis latrans. The slightly more primitive cousin to the wolf. However, coyotes can breed with both dogs and wolves.

>>2316208
>worse at theory of mind
understanding attention isn't ToM.

since dogs don't have theory of mind, wolves can't do any worse than that.

>>2316218
>since dogs don't have theory of mind
yes they do

>>2316219
>understanding attention isn't ToM

read more, talk less.

>>2316220
They can figure out and predict human desire, emotion and communication without direct visual cues

>>2316222
yes, that is called understanding intention, which is also not ToM.

Understanding attention and intention are precursors to ToM, not equal to it.

>>2316179
Work smarter, not harder. Dumb wolfposter.

Dolf

>>2316162
You can teach wolves to fetch.
The intelligence gap between domestic dogs and wolves is completely insignificant.

>>2316169

Doubt they are as smart as border collies.

>>2316208
If you put it like that, it sounds as if wolves have autism desu
Of course we know such a thing it is not

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>>2316149
I hope everyone in this thread is just playing along with a joke and at least some of you have a basic grasp of taxonomy and phylogeny.

coyotes evolved from dogs that escaped from their owners in western canada, so i would say they're dogs

>>2316162
>>2316169
Neither are particularly intelligent. Canids are not intelligent mammals and none of the carnivora are noted for intelligence either.

Bump ftw

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>>2316225
Bad b8 m8

>>2316210
Thanks.

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>>2316149
>Neither
Dogs are domestic breeds of canine, typically derived from a wolf ancestor at some point.

Coyotes are wild canines that are not derived from actual wolves, but instead derived from the same common ancestor to true wolves.

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>>2316169
>tfw to intelligent too be domestic

>>2316176
This post made me smile.

>>2316394
they only teach that at universities

>>2316149
I guess you can say the coyote, the gray, red and golden wolf, the golden "jackal" and the ethiopian wolf are all species of wolf. The mane wolf and the aardwolf are not wolves.

>>2317466
Is a coyote a wolf?

>>2317534
If you define 'wolf' as a member of the 'Canis' genus (except for C. mesomelas and C. adustus which shouldn't be Canis BTW) then yes, coyotes are wolves.

>>2317576
Thank you. What about a bear?

>>2317577
What about it?

>>2317583
Is it like a wolf or a dog moreso?

>>2317603
Neither. Bears are actually more related to seals and weasels.

>>2316458
No. Coyotes original came from the American Midwest and their range expanded after wolves were wiped out in most of the US, leaving them with no competition. They didn't come from domestic dogs either.

>>2316162
>>2316173
>>2316189
>>2316458
>>2317534
>>2317603
You are the most insufferably autistic faggot I have ever encountered on this website in almost a decade.

>>2316149
In some places niehter, in others coyotes are a small percentage of both dogs and wolves

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Coyotes are walking pieces of shit.

>>2316149
It's a goddamn pitbull. Get over it.

>>2316149
Coyote

>>2319665
what

>>2319806
he said "Coyote"

>>2320069
i don't know why he's just reiterating the topic though. the question was what a coyote is

The coyote (canis latrans) falls into its own species unique of both dogs (canis lupus familiaris) and wolves (canis lupus).

>>2320166
That's an interesting theory. Thanks for your input

>>2316162
Wolves aren't stupid, they just haven't been domesticated, and therefore, have no reason to do what the human wants them to do. Unless of course the reward for doing it is of great value.

There was a good video on YouTube showing this a while back, in which both a wolf and a dog were given a puzzle to solve. The wolf eventually solved it on it's own, but the dog stopped and looked to it's handler for help when it couldn't figure it out.

The intelligence is just different in each, because wolves must survive on their own, whereas, we feed the dog, so the dog knows to look to us for help.

Neither is 'stupid', one is just domesticated.

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The Eastern Coyote is a mix of coyote, wolf, and dog.

>The Eastern coyote (Canis latrans var.), also known as the Tweed Wolf,[2] is a wild North American canine of mixed coyote-wolf and dog parentage that is present in New England, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania,[3] Ohio,[4] West Virginia,[5] Maryland,[6] Delaware and Virginia.[7] They also range in the eastern Canadian provinces of Ontario, Quebec, New Brunswick,[8] Nova Scotia,[9] Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland and Labrador.[10]

>It was first noticed during the early 1930s to the late 1940s, and likely originated in the aftermath of the extirpation of the eastern wolf in southeastern Ontario as well as the Labrador wolf in Labrador and Quebec, thus allowing coyotes to colonize the former wolf ranges and mix with the remnant wolf populations.[11][12] This hybrid is smaller than the eastern wolf and holds smaller territories, but is larger and holds more extensive home ranges than the typical western coyote.[11]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_coyote

>>2317613

The Eastern Coyote actually does have both dog and wolf ancestry.

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Wolfs and dogs are more closely related to each other than to coyotes.

>>2320710
Worth noting that the golden jackal is not a jackal

>>2316149
It's its own thing.

>>2316394
What the fuck is up with the last four on the list

>>2321015
Outgroups?

>>2316169

get a load of the wolfaboo

>>2321015

Pinnipeds and ursines are the distant relatives of the canines.

Kind of like how the rodents and lagomorphs are our distant relatives.