/herp/ Reptile & Amphibian General

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Posting lizard

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>mfw new /herp/ thread

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>>2255087

DELET THISSSSSS!

>>2255089
thats not an email you dummy

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Some dingus put this ornament in the BP cage at work. I was going to move it to a 5 gal critter tote along with a small cave and wait for him to come out, but is there anything else I should/can do to help?

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>>2255175
Nvm he came out.

>>2255190
>>2255175
What a guy

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This is my 8 year old beardie, Smaug (I thought it was a super original name as a teenager). I've had him since he could barely stand. He was the only non-standard coloration at the pet shop, and was also the most active one. Some asshole had bought him for his girlfriend, but she turned him into the pet store when they broke up 2 weeks later. When I heard his story, I knew he was the one I wanted.

I frequently took him to school, and he has his own entry in my senior yearbook. He's a tough bastard too; in '09 there was a terrible ice storm in my area and we lost power for 2 weeks. He lived under my hoodie for that time and survived off of body heat like a badass.

These days I occasionally use him as a live model for the art classes I teach on the side (when I'm not at my "real" job). He really is the chillest dude ever.

>>2255256
to your credit Smaug probably was pretty original 8 years ago
sounds like a cool lizard anon, i hope i have a lizard bro like that someday but finding space for another 50+ gallon tank is a bitch

>>2255256
>I frequently took him to school
good training for
>we lost power for 2 weeks. He lived under my hoodie for that time and survived off of body heat like a badass.
and other forms of abuse and mistreatment.

>>2255278
He used his own bodyheat to keep his beloved pet alive when he was a kid.
If thats not a devoted owner nothing is.
Fuck off

>>2255282
Still is mistreatment. Not his fault though

>>2255287
No, that's absolute best case treatment given the situation.
He knew he needed to stay warm and he did everything he could.

>>2255256
I like Smaug, he seems like a bro.

>>2255071
Dude sells one of them burn victim looking fucks at my pet shop

PAGING JIMBO FOSHER

PAGING JIMBO FOSHER

YOU WILL BE CONTACTED ON TUESDAY OR WEDNESDAY

[spoiler] Are there spoilers on /an/? I don't know. Sorry. Just figured this is the most reliable means of contact. Lo and behold I was right! But yes, my service will be back Tuesday or Wednesday. I was contemplating calling you with the house phone but I thought that would be weird. Not trying to derail stuff, that's all, carry on

>>2255256
I don't like Smaug, he seems smug.

>>2255282
he brought the thing to school a bunch and that's abuse

>>2255071
>Folrence.jpg

Fucking niggers

>>2255087
don't compare her to ussss

>>2255443
Florence.
It's a typo, not ebonics.

>>2255439
Noted, Izzo

>>2255389
She's a leatherback, not a silkie

>>2255564
>>2255570
one more time

>>2255571
I fucked a few things and I attempted to hide my shame.

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>>2255570
Oh okay, good!
Also, if I may add one more irrelevant post to this thread, please reinstall kik. I know you don't like it much but I've sort of gone away from using Skype, due to its invasive nature but would like to communicate with you despite the current lack of mobile service. Since, it works with wifi and what not. That's a given. Rambling now! Sorry.

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>>2255074
Objectively bad jackolantern, can't even tell what it is upon first glance

>>2255087
Kek

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Look at this fuckin mutant leachie

>>2255661
why

>>2255668
because nature is a cruel mistress

>>2255661
I really doubt that hatched alive.

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>>2255066
My corn snake Malice

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>>2256078

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>>2256079
Sssssspooky

>>2256080
Cute snek but oh geeze is that carefresh? Yuck. Any reason you don't like shredded aspen?

I don't have pictures but I need help with identifying some weird turtle I found a few years ago. Can't find anything. This was in northern Kentucky on the Ohio river. Went to get my camera and my brother let it get away. Anyway thing was about 10 inches long and had actual flippers. Didn't look like a sea turtle at all. It had flippers and no claws. I remember it being a dark green almost black hard shell.

>>2256204
softshell turtle maybe?

>>2256259
I don't know. It had flippers like a sea turtle. My dad has pictures with his brothers of them catching a turtle just like it. Maybe some mutation?

Mutations don't work like that.
It was a softshell probably.

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>>2256270
Here's what the shell looked like

>>2256272
dont know what to tell you anon, i guess someone threw a fuckin baby leatherback sea turtle into the ohio river

Anyway, should my Royal Python still be very active even when digesting its food? It's my first time feeding her.

>>2256078
Your corn looks obese.

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Hey guys.

I owned a bearded dragon for 13 years and she passed about one year ago. I've always been interested in snakes, but didn't want one at the same time as my lizard.

I have a friend who is moving away and is trying to give me her albino Gopher Snake for free and was wondering what you guys thought about that species? I've only really interacted with corn snakes and rosy boas in a pet setting and they were very chill and docile.

Thanks for any tips or experience.

>>2256289
Not him but that's a normal female tail shape you retard

What kind a Christmas present do I get my friend? He breeds bearded dragons and western hognoses and is really into them. He likes artwork of them but everything I have found so far is DeviantArt worthy.

>>2256316
it's like a beefy corn that's a little more likely to bite you and less interested in being up high. they're similar enough to interbreed

>>2256334
comission someone
see if you can find a beardie or hognose skeleton, I'd be pretty jazzed about something like that
buy him another tank or a rack if he's got the space for more

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>>2256204
This is the only fresh water turtle with flippers. Its a fly river turtle which i can tell you 99% probably isnt what you saw considering the are endangered and cant be exported and are pretty damn rare in captivity aswell.

>>2256319
Scale separation and "hips" say it's obese. In the second photo it looks better but the other two it looks obese. Not morbidly, but it will get there if its being overfed.

Even females should have a squareish shape to them.

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Guys I want a green frog that looks like pepe

Any suggestions?

Does anyone else here french kiss their boa?

>>2256645
Thats how you get salmonella

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>>2256624

>>2256624
if you're being serious
either whites treefrogs like >>2256653

or a pixie frog

>>2256653
Kek strikes back

>>2256652
10 years and no salmonella get on my level fag

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>>2256653
Fantastic. And booping finger had it coming.

>>2256654
>pixie from

I'd say pacman froggy over a pixie. Or at least a dwarf pyxie so anon doesn't have to deal with fuck huge fat bastard frog eating them out of house and home.

>>2256653
I like how the other frog is just watching

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Didn't feel this needed its own thread so I'm posting here. ID this snake please? I assumed it was venomous. Northeast Texas.

>>2256822
cottonmouth?

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Posting boa
This guy is just getting better with age. After his last shed he's got orange popping everywhere. This spot on his head is my favorite though.

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>>2256983
So tame too.
Probably the worlds best snake.

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found this old picture on my phone
are snakes retarded?

>>2256822
yeah im pretty sure that one is actually a cottonmouth
they're pretty easy to confuse with water snakes though

that being said killing it was probably unnecessary. they're pretty nonagressive as far as venomous snakes go

>>2256996
No, frogs squish down a lot. He probably didn't have an issue eating that once 86th was dead

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>tfw shitter snake I sent back to bhb is in an episode of snakebytes
I kind of miss her and her bitchiness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWVwB_XXhJw 17:20

>>2257134
lol 10-15 rats for that retic is way overboard, good way to feed it into obesity, though. 2-3 colossal rats are more than enough for a snake that size. Of course, that's still multiples, so rabbits are better, but 10-15? Maybe if you were feeding a bunch of small-sized rats. Also, weekly? Haha no, that's barely enough time to digest the food let alone for its organs to go back to normal size. An adult retic should be eating a decent-sized meal monthly.

>>2256996
The toad is inflating itself in the hopes of not being swallowed.

>>2257314
Would that actually work

>>2257523
not really. it's a shitty defense mechanism

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any recommendation names for my tortoise? its a girl btw

>>2256822
Black tail usually indicates cottonmouth.

>>2257850
Tort-tella.

Like tortilla because pun.

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Got this little guy about a week or two ago, it's hard to believe he's a 6 year old ghost, he's so light and clean. I've got an adult jungle female coming in so I wanted a really nice anery or ghost to pair her with to make 100% hets, and he fits the bill for sure.

Can leopard geckos see the "infrared" light these ceramic heat emitters have or is it invisible to them? My UTH doesn't get quite the right temperature all on its own for daytime temps so I want something I can use with it for mostly days or cold nights in the house without disturbing her.

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>>2257940
Forgot the pic of the exact one in question

>>2257940
Nope. Gecko's visible spectrum does not extend to that wavelength. You can use it 24 hours no problem.

>>2257955
Neato, anyone have any recommendations on general lighting to use for daytime? Anything I can use in the dark as well that won't disturb her too much so I can see her when she's most active?

>>2257983
For checking on my geckos at night i use a red light on a dimmer. Those things are pretty bright at full power (for my eyes) so i only turn them on at 30% or so. Lights only get turned on when i'm checking on them and off when i'm done. The geckos can't see the entire spectrum of red light that we can but they can see some part of it, which is why it's not a good idea to have them on all night.

>>2257992
Do you think a 25w red halogen would be fine just to check on it?

>>2257884
>>2257884
What locality is that? It seems really small for 6 years

>>2258006
Sure.

>>2258104
No idea, but males can stay quite small if fed a little less, so I assume that's what happened here, some breeders keep their males 3'-4'. He's about 4' long. His owner was feeding him small rats every 2-3 weeks which is appropriate, though, so he may also just be small male, which happens. I'll probably stick to 3 weeks, I don't think he's big enough for mediums unfortunately.

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Thinking about getting a veiled chameleon.

Have never owned a reptile before but I'm absolutely in love with chameleons.

Have done a lot of research on them. Haven't got any personal opinions on them from people who have owned them tho. Can anyone tell me what it's like?

>>2258475
You're going to kill it.

>>2258476

Oh yea m8?

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>>2255066
hello /herp/ I come from the far distant land of /aq/ are there any snakes that can live in my aquarium?

>>2255440
Smug Smaug, may look smug, but is actually smug dude, my man.

>>2258481
tentacled snakes and elephant trunk snakes are really only things I can think of

Not sure if ocean snakes in captivity are a thing
Also hope you dont mind fish being eaten

>>2258475

I've heard you can't handle them much, or at all.

Something about stress fucking killing them really easily.

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>>2258481
like a full of fish and water aquarium?
yes actually
I have no idea how much you'd have to pay for one, but look up tentacled snakes and elephant trunk snakes

on the other hand there are of course sea snakes but most are highly venomous so I doubt they're readily available for captivity

tentacled snakes are super cute though

>>2258475
I took care of them at a petsmart that was ill equipped for them.

They stress extremely easy and have been known to die from it so handling is not an option most of the time. They also require an open air cage with high humidity and decent heat which can be tricky especially to someone who has no experience with reptiles which is amplified since its not an enclosed box you can tinker with.

They are really cool but if you are considering getting one read as much as you can on them and if you are still sure get everything for it first make sure it runs stable for a week before you get the animal. It really isnt what would be considered a beginner reptile.

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>>2258500
omg is that a photo of one? Look is it's little sniffer noodles! Do you know how large they get?
>>2258497
if the snake was to my liking, I'd have no problem feeding it.

>>2258500
check this out
http://www.reptilesmagazine.com/Care-Sheets/Snakes/Tentacled-Snake/

a little to much work for me but are they pretty wow !

>>2258497
>>2258500
Not him but wow, I had no idea there were aquatic snakes that weren't the sea snakes

>>2258510
They seem to be pretty small for snake standards, growing a little more than a foot to less than 3 feet (while that's huge for fish standards, take in mind that they aren't much of active swimmers like fish and are content in being stationary, so a tank longer than them and enough for them to turn around easily would suffice.)

Seems like if you're gonna put it in an established aquarium, it's gonna eat all of your livestock. (Though if you have a tank full of live bearers, a population explosion is actually really good for once)

If I bob my head at an iguana, will it think I'm being aggressive?

One of my two leos (both female, had them for approx 2 years now) currently always hides in the cold spot, while the other stays warm... I'm pretty worried. The temps are fine on the warm side, 32degrees directly under a stone hide, about 26-28 in the other warm hides and moist hides.
Cold side should have the same temp as my appartment, so like 23-ish degrees.
It's currently winter here, but over the last 2 years the leos did not give a shit, and continued on normally. Should I try moving her back to the warm spot, or let her be and reduce her food intake...? Or maybe should I just continue feeding them normally? Please give me some advice.

>>2258577
You should have 2 sets of hiding places

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>>2258577
Jup, I do. Got only 1 moist atm, but besides that 3 warm hides, 1 medium warm hide (mid of tank), and 2 cold ones. The other leo is currently in the moist hide, so all 3 warm are free. I moved her from the cold to her basking stone, but first she went hiding under the medium hide, and then back to the cold...
Reason why I currently only have 1 moist is that both leos used their moist hide way too often a while back, so i converted one moist to a normal warm spot.
Pic rel is tank
Both eat normal, that's no issue, but I'm still a bit worried because this happened from one day to another

>>2258629
meant for
>>2258602

Is it true that babby beardies shouldn't be fed with insects longer than the space between their eyes?
I'd like to know the science behind this statement.
I've been feeding my 4 months old with massive crickets and superworms for about a month now, because that's all they have in my local petshop.
He's been pooping just fine and seems happy.

>>2258676
pls respond

>>2258676
as long as they are at max the size of his head but preferably smaller he will be ok

Honestly at 4 months its less of a baby and more of a juvenile and fully grown crickets should be just fine

Id probably go with smaller mealworms though.

>>2258718
He usually eats 2-3 large crickets, 1-2 superworms, or 10-13 mealworms, depending what I have. 2 times that per day. Is this okay?

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If only I could be so grossly incandescent

Waffle is praising the sun

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>>2258726
Eek. That's an ugly lizard m8.

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Pepe laffin his ass off.

>>2258475
Worst herp out there.
They hate you and will never want to be handled.
A pet rock>>>>chameleon.

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>>2258728
I think he's cute for a uromastyx

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An upset banana king snake

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Sonny the corn noming.

I promised my son i would get a chameleon for us both to look after lads

Ive seen some nice looking yemeni ones, would preferably like to get a pair
Any advice?
Are they a good species to go for ?

Ive never had a reptile before but ive had some success with mudskippers and have kept plenty of fishtanks in my times

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>canceled denver reptile show
I haven't come to /an/ in a while, but came to see if anyone knew about this.

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>>2258806
Get a bearded dragon or a corn snake. If you don't have much experience you are setting him up to fail as chameleons are a bitch to create for. It will crush him.

Horned frogs aka pacman frogs are nice also. I prefer African bullfrogs

Pic here is of my Pepe.

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>>2258813
Care for*

Fucking phone posting.

Gecko bros are also a good easy starter

>>2258806
Get a beardie, they actually like people.
Chameleon would kill you if it could.
They don't like to be toutched at all. Great for the kids right?
Beardies are like lapdogs. They enjoy being pet, you don't need to be a masterful engineer to build a viv and they don't bite.
Just give the babby beardie a week to settle in before you start handling it.
Thanks for not buying a chameleon.

>>2258806
chameleons are notoriously difficult to care for properly
depending on how old your son is, you're also going to have to explain to him that he can't touch or hold them

also if you get two and they are both males, you'll end up with a fight on your hands

>>2258827
Even with a male and female after they are adults chameleons are solitary.

They should only ever be enclosed together for mating and not for very long.

>>2258760
C U T E
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Dino.

>>2258813
Hmm yeah maybe some nice jungle frogs will be better for us, geckos sound good too. Just read these posts >>2258502
>>2258499 and am pretty gutted

Im not really interested in sneks and bearded dragons desu

Such a shame because chameleons look so fucking cool, and he likes Sting Chameleon out of megaman x

>>2258827
>>2258824
Thanks for the replies

Beardies dont appeal to me at all, ive been round too many scumbags houses with smelly lizards in them. is it possible to trim their horrible long claws?
I'll talk to him and see if he will like a beardie or a cool pair of frogs or geckos

Hes 10 btw but very mature

>>2258837
>not being interested in beardies

Are you fucking stupid?
You're never going to find a better lizard for the kids.
You're going to look your kid in the eye with a straight face and give him a fucking frog?
The kid wanted a lizard and you're going to buy him a bearded dragon you fucking joke of a parent.
Fuck you.

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>>2258837
If you are out there for looks beardies are some of the prettiest lizards around dude.

If I had the money I would get a female SandfirexGermanGiant

But I can't afford to house/feed that beast atm.

>>2258812
It says it's under new ownership. It's likely Repticon bought it, they do that a lot, and they do have a Denver show scheduled for April 2017.

>>2258841
Yes you can trim their nails.

Care not to go too far up the nail as you will nick a blood vessal.

>>2258841
>ive been round too many scumbags houses with smelly lizards in them. is it possible to trim their horrible long claws?

That sounds like you've been around druggies who own green iguanas. Beardies don't have long claws and they don't smell at all.

>>2258848
They can smell. But only if you let their veggies rot or shit pile up.

All you need to do is be responsible.

It isn't hard.

>>2258845
What the fuck?
You're supposed to have climbing material in the viv. The claws of a beardie don't need trimming as they wear out when they climb.

>>2258852
I never had to trim.

And I had some pretty active climbers with some still rather sharp nails.

Nothing wrong with dulling a little more so they don't scratch up the little ones.

>>2258850
Well then it's the veggies smelling and not the lizard
Their poop smells pretty bad due to high protein diet tho. I clean them up immediately when I see one.

>>2258842
Beardies suck dick and are common pleb shit, literally the staffordshire bull terrier of the reptile world
If they could hold money in their disgusting long claws you would see them hanging around outside paki shops drinking 35p cans of euroshopper energy drink and fighting over who gets twos on their mates ciggie
Give me some classy red eyed tree frogs any day lad

Im going to get them just to spite you and my kids gonna fucking love them

>>2258843
Eh i just dont like the shape of their flattened body. It looks like a horseshoe crab has mutated and the tumours resemble a head and legs

How much would it cost a month to keep what you posted there?

>>2258845
Cool thats what i figured

>>2258854
Have your beardies ever scratched anyone?
Mine sure haven't.
I think it's wrong to dull them, since they aren't even big and they need them for climbing and climbing is their favourite sport.

>>2258856
Well enjoy growing pike food with your kid, I'm sure he couldn't hate you more than he already does pleb.

>>2258859
Im gonna get some badboy poison dart frogs, stick your shit beardies up your cunt m8

>>2258858
Mine have left marks on me but I do not mind.

I never clip.

Just saying that you can do it if you want.

>>2258866
I hope your kid eats one of your faggot frogs fag.

>>2258866
Have fun having them all die.

>>2258868
It wont matter unless they eat the native ants.

That is what makes them toxic.

>>2258856
>Eh i just dont like the shape of their flattened body

They stand on all four when they are on the move and active.
Most of the picks of bearded dragons are them chilling.

>>2258841
>I've been around people who mistreat their pets
>clearly it's the lizards fault

Just how fucking stupid are you exactly?

I don't even give a fuck if beardie is the most common herp. It's that for a reason.
They are bro as fuck and no other lizard will ever sit on your shoulder and watch Armageddon from start to finish.

>>2258806
see earlier post here>>2258502
If you get a chameleon it will 100% be your responsibility a 10 year old is not reliable enough
And it is not a pet to hold or strut around with its like 1 or 2 tiers above fish in interactivity

>>2258856
>beardies suck dick
you best be joking just because they are common and on the easier side of husbandry doesnt mean anything they should be given the same seriousness with care as even the most delicate herp
and most beardies dont have long claws really unless you also think dogs and torioses have long claw

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herro,

Who do you guys think breeds good retics? I've browsed some classifieds and it seems like there's only a few who do, is that the case?

>>2258897
>there are people who care that their herp has be uncommon

Yea fuck them. Common or not, all that should matter is how the owner cares for them

>>2258956
What the fuck is an uncommon?

>>2258866

They're not poisonous in captivity, faggot. Good work getting a color frog because your son wanted a lizard.

>>2258967
Anything that you don't find in Petsmart

>>2258967
I'm guessing things that aren't extremely common herps, like beardies, leos, cresties, BPs, corns and such.

>>2258925
Depends on the country you live in. If you live in the US, keep in mind you can only buy from breeders who are members of USARK and have special permission to ship them, or a breeder from your state.

If you live outside the US I can't help you at all, not sure of any breeders outside the US.

>>2258990
I'm in colorado.

Regarding the state lines, is that a function of residency? Or can I drive/fly somewhere to buy in person

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>>2258841
Also consider blue tongue skink. they are very relaxed and fairly comfortable with occasional handling. not difficult to care for.

>>2258994
No it's a federal law stating they cannot cross state borders, or be exported out of/imported in the US. You cannot ship, drive, or fly a snake into a different state without becoming a felon if you're caught without having proof you were a member of USARK on/before September 2014 I think it was. They're no longer giving out any of those exceptions, as of sometime last year.

With any luck, the recent additions to the Lacey Act will be overturned, or USARK will be able to reduce the reach the Lacey Act has and allow all the listed species to be transported across state lines again without having to remove them from the list. I wouldn't look forward to that for another several years at least though. Until then, it's in-state or a breeder wo is allowed to ship.

>>2258913
honestly im going to rank chameleons below some fish
my betta is a total attentionwhore

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Is this cage okay for a crested, or two mourning geckos? It's 16x16x24. I realize the vented sides and top aren't ideal, but I figured they'd be easy enough to block off.

>>2259086
that should be large enough for a single adult crestie iirc

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peekin

> beadie fags

>>2259013
My friend used to have them, they were chill
I'll add them to the shortlist

>>2258968
He would obviously choose them for the colours, not the poison silly

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Just got her today, I'm going to have a hell of a time finding a male. Probably the rarest snake I have though which is neat.

Bonus points if you guys know what she is.

>>2258856
>getting kids frogs instead of a beardie
yeah, children definitely love animals they can't touch that range in exciting attention span holding behavior such as "sleeping hidden all day" to possibly "sitting there in the open"

>>2259136
Its obviously a lesser reticulated Turdsnake

>>2259137
Women dont let you touch them but you still want one dont you?

>>2259136
well it looks like some kind of king snake, but beyond that im not sure

>>2259136
Looks like a Viper to me.

Quick question regarding the use of ceramic tiles and heat mats. Do I put the mat under the tile, or would the heat go through the glass + tile as well?

>>2259136
I got excited form your words and the thumbnail wanting it to be a egg eater and it's just a damn mole king

how do i get my beardie to puff out her beard, she's never done it to me, what do

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found this little shit in my backyard. does anyone know the species?

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>>2259268

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>>2259269

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My ball python, about 2 ft or so. Have him on frozen thawed small rats atm

>>2259177
Put it beneath the tank. The heat transfers through easily.

>>2259262
Beard going black and puffed up is a stress and fight response. It's not something you want to see, let alone deliberately provoke.

>>2259268
>>2259269
>>2259271
where's your backyard?

>>2259151
>>2259205
>>2259174

I mean egg eater is technically correct, but it isn'tt the kind people usually think of. It's a kukri snake

>>2259384
Southern Nevada, specifically the Henderson-Las Vegas area.

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>this guy trying to justify getting a chameleon or dart frogs for a kid
I feel bad for those animals

>>2259576
I'm thinking its a juvenile something in the genus Urosaurus
its head is quite large in comparison to its body, and it pattern is similar to some urosaurus species

>>2259582
> i cannot read
I feel bad for your family

How high maintenance is a beardie anyways? I've been looking at getting some kind of reptile/amphibian ever since I got rid of my tarantula, but I don't want to get something I can't care for in the best possible way

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how much pushback would one receive from the reptile community if they were looking to raise snakes for skins and potentially meat?

>>2259993
so long as you have a human way to kill them and don't treat them like dirt, only retards will be up in arms about it

shit depending on what you got, I'd probably be willing to buy snake skins from you

Anyone here own cuban knight anoles?
We have a couple of them in the store, and they're very interesting. Always watching and waiting for a chance to get out
Also they drink out of the misting bottle and its super cute

>>2259993
Breeding your own for that purpose? I don't really care. I would have a trouble if you were poaching wild snakes to do it but captive breeding is fine. Keep in mind all snake owners are completely cool with the idea of breeding rodents specifically to feed to their snakes so...

>>2259941
Not bad. Maybe 3/10 work load and difficulty. More work than geckos or most snakes but not that much more.

Is it normal for a ball python to eat during shedding days? Mine just ate when his eyes are murky, his eyes are normal now, but he still hasn't shed.

Also, if they refused a thawed rat, do you just put it back in the freezer or should you just get rid of it?

>>2260491
Dont feed when he is shedding.

Also pythons are known to be cunts and not eat for months at a time for no reason.

So look out for that.

>>2260491
Don't refreeze/rethaw rodents. Feeding a rethawed one can potentially make your snake sick. Toss it.

>>2260494
>>2260501
Thanks.

Gordon Ramsnek is currently in his humidity box.

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>>2260502

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Kid with young iguana checking back in, still to early to know gender? Will reply a better pic in a minute

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>>2260512

>>2260514
Probable male.

More pronounced femoral pours.

>>2260512
>>2260514
You're going to need to wait a couple months or so before you can really be sure

>>2255256
Sup Jenna

>>2258475
If you are really serious about keeping chameleons , despite how much cheaper veiled are I much prefer panthers.

>>2258736
>>2258499
They do stress easily but if you take the time and go slow you can "tame" them and they can actually enjoy handling / out time. It starts with hand feeding and just having them shoot their tongues at the food in your hand is fun. That being said it depends on the individual and takes a lot of time.

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So... Every ITT does adopt rather than buy at a pet store, right?

>>2260664
if by adopt you mean get them from people who breed them on purpose and aren't a soulless corporation
then sure

>>2260666
>aren't a soulless corporation
>666

idk man

>>2260666
This. Adopting isn't even a choice if you want a reptile unless you want like a red eared slider, or MAYBE a bearded dragon or a beaten up iguana.

>>2260071
Speaking of, what kind of snake is usually used for snakeskin? I don't imagine they're captive-bred, so anon would be taking a step in the right direction if there's presumably always going to be a market for snakeskin.

>>2260674
I don't agree with skinning snakes because they are all wild caught and raising snakes for it makes no sense monetarily.

>>2260674
rattlesnakes probably
people kill them just for existing

the problem i can see with raising snakes for skins and meat is that not all snakes reproduce a whole lot, and they take a while to reach an adult size appropriate for harvesting

>>2260675
Because there's no demand for captive-bred snakeskin, because there's no supply to create a demand.
In the very long term, with enough participants, it could potentially sway the market. It's no worse than giving up.

How flighty are mourning geckos? I don't really care about holding them, I just don't want something that's going to fly under my TV stand and die the second I open the cage door.

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I don't know anything about potty training reptiles, but my ball python would always coil around this rock and so far unloads the goods exactly besides the rock. This is good news, but I'm not sure if he would do the same thing once he's outgrown the rock. Hopefully he would do the same thing in future enclosures and on a bigger rock/object.

Does /an/ have any related stories?

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Guys look at my little baby

>>2260695
Some of my geckos have a particular spot they like to use, others just go wherever. One is especially fond of using her water dish as a toilet so I have to be on the ball about checking that every day to see if it needs to be changed out and cleaned.

>>2260739
I love him much
what is name

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>>2260504
Gordon successfully shedded! I was just in time when I spotted him rubbing his snoot against his bod.

So when my beardies lights turn on she doesnt get under the warmer side of the tank / bask.

I say shes not a morning beardie and simply will not move all day, i have to grab her and put her under the bulb to get her active.
What do :(

>>2255190

Aww that's a really cute snek

>>2255256

Can you post a pic of you holding him?~

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Posting pictures of assorted animals

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>>2261344
Just 2 actually

>>2261223
Balls are always cute.

Are 3D printed plastics harmful to herps?

>>2261378
Should be safe after they off-gas. so give it a couple weeks after printing before putting in tank.

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Hi I just got my first ball python today. Do they calm down after getting to "know you"(your scent and routine) better? He's extremely jumpy towards me he doesn't try to bite me in any way but if I touch him at all he starts rocketing around his tank and it makes me jump sometimes even though I know it's coming.
Ps his tank isn't that bare that's when I first put him in to get him warm it looks better now

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>>2261390
Unrelated to him but I'm the same person
Is my corn snake overweight? I was looking at pictures of overweight corns and he has a similar bump on his tail and I'm wondering if I should slow down his mouse intake and get him exercising more

I just got my first Bearded Dragon about a month ago off of craigslist, haven't held him yet since not sure how to even when I look up pictures online, he is nice and chilled out though, I've pet him a couple times but get too scared to hold him, this is my first reptile pet

>>2260944
Charlie

>>2261390
Yes, they'll calm down. Give him 1-2 weeks untouched without even offering any food. After 1-2 weeks offer him his first meal with you. Then 7 days later give him another meal. If he takes both of these meals first try, then you can begin handling 48 hours after the second meal.

Ball pythons are very shy, so they should be given plenty of time to settle in before you start handling them. If the snake refuses, do not handle at all until they start eating regularly again. If you need to take them out for whatever reason, out they go straight into a holding container and straight back in.

Some snakes lose their defensiveness or jumpiness after a few weeks, some after a few months, and some after a few years. Just handle regularly and make the sessions positive.

>>2261392
Looks good to me, no scale separation and no "hips." Has a nice squarish look to him.

>>2261390
leave your snake alone for at least one week to acclimate to new tank and surroundings.

>>2261437

Slowly slide your hand under his chin and under his chest. They often climb right on from there. If he decides he wants to move off your arm or to a place you don't want, just hold your hand in front of his face and he will stop. Reptiles can be funny like that. Like if you were to do that with a mammal they mostly just go straight over or around the hand. Lizards though, it's like a stop sign to many species. There are exceptions to that of course, like monitors don't give a damn about you or your hand and they're going where they're headed regardless.

>>2261645
>>2261646
Okay thank you guys
My corn is way more chilled out and doesn't care what you do with him even touch his head (I don't do that on purpose but if I do he just moved away slowly) so it was a big difference for me to see is all

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Anyone know much about gecko breeding? I have 6 hatched babies from 3 clutches and all of them look like their mother. I'm wondering if this is some sort of dominant pattern? Hang on, I have a few pictures coming. This one is the parents ...

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>>2261852

first 4 babies, 2 clutches

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>>2261853

Well, here's another just for fun. I had 2 hatch last night that had the same pattern. Some are more red, some are more gray, but all have that pattern. None of them look like the father - which I think that pattern is called 'Chocolate chip', it's gray with black speckles.

Is this just bad luck?

>>2261854
I wouldn't call it bad luck. Those geckos look a lot better than dad

>>2261861

I thought the same thing, too, when I got them a few years ago. The dad was the only one left, so I accepted it. These days I think he is the sharper looking of the two. I really wish I could get a kid that looks like him. It kind'a grew on me.

>>2261854
>>2261854
cute gecko footprints.

Yes, say the mother is a harlequin and perhaps father is het for harlequin as well = high probability of that appearance. There are a few books on this subject you may wish to look in to. It's difficult to be precise if you don't know the genealogy of the parents though. Both may have other hets and maybe some recessive genes in the mix as well, so hard to say.

>>2261904
>>2261871

I would say the father is a Buckskin Dalmation Bicolor and the mother is a "Mocha & Cream" Harlequin.

Unlike some reptiles, Crested geckos are a lot like humans. they're just gonna mix their shit all up. You will not find a baby that looks identical to the mother or father specifically. Mother's eyes, dad's nose, aunt's hair, etc. I agree with that other guy - the father probably has some harlequin in him.

I bought a Zoo Med heating pad that I intend to use with a Rubbermaid plastic bin for a corn snake. Is it better to attack the heating pad, say, to a ceramic tile rather than just slap it onto the plastic? And can any of you recommend a good thermostat to control the temp of the heating pad with?

>>2262033
I didnt take the paper off mine and just slid it under
It wont get hot enough to matter especially if you use a thermostat
The jump start brand is a good choice but i have a zoomed dial one that works just fine also

>>2262033
>Rubbermaid plastic bin
>how do I use a heating pad
Just give the snake to someone who will take care of it

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>>2262046
Seriously? I'd rather keep my snake in a plastic bin than drop it in an aquarium. Plastic bins keep moisture and heat far better than any glass enclosure.

>>2262037
Thanks for the advice.

>>2262046
Under tank heating with plastic tub is a well established method with excellent safety record. That is how snakes are raised in every breeding facility i have ever seen or heard of; heat tape on rack system with plastic tubs. Using a thermostat (which should always be used regardless of tank material) the heating will never get near the melting point of plastic. Not even close.

>>2262070
Yes, I rate the various snake housing methods from best to worst as:

zoo habitat > PVC tank > sealed wood tank > plastic tub/rack system > insulated and aluminum foiled aquarium to get desired ventilation and humidity stable > unmodified screen top aquarium.

>>2262073
Thanks for the information.

>>2262073
i mean they can but only if it short circuits and all the safety measure fail
but if you're using a thermostat like you're supposed to there should be no problems

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snatched this guy today because petco doesn't know what they got
I hope he oranges up real good

what kind of salads do you make for yours? I know what greens are good for them, but what else do you mix in there and how much do you add?
Also I'm thinking about starting a dubia colony to help alleviate feeding costs, what size colony am I looking at here to feed a single bearded dragon?

>>2262162
also taking name suggestions
currently considering Winston and Elias

Do any physical stores sell something similar to CHE's but without the stupid amount of markup that petstores have?
I can order one online, but I'd like to have it sooner rather than later

HELP!!!!

my ball python momo got a new roommate cause i went to petco and bought a cornsnake who i named mini. momo and mini, cute right? omg i love them but since i put mini in momo's tank momo has not eaten since 2 months ago and he had a shred too i know they are hungry after they do that. whats wrong with my momo?

HELP!!!!

>>2262209
I would just suck it up and pay the price. The thing is going to last you 3-6 years minimum, and probably 10+. $25 for one bulb is a steal for that.

Plus, if you order online, they tend to explode in transit, so I wouldn't advise buying online anyway. They're very delicate in that regard.

>>2262249
25? I'm pretty sure the ones we have are about 40
I could suck it up for 25 bucks
I have one thats 150W and I got it for eight dollary doos on amazon

In any case, what wattage should I use for a ten gallon tank?
I have one thats 150W buts thats way too much power. Is 50W enough? Its just got to keep it warm enough through the nights for a beardie

>>2262338
Prices probably differ on location, then. I got my 100 watt CHE bulbs for somewhere around $25-30 each at Petsmart. That was 3 years ago, and prices of a lot of stuff has risen since, so maybe it's more expensive. I used to get 3 packs of EcoEarth for $7 now it's almost $11, the small rat packs used to $12-13 now they're $17 (last I checked - been a few months).

Still, $40 isn't all that much to complain about when you're getting a product that will last at least half your reptiles' life if cared for.

>>2262214
You cannot cohab a corn and a BP. Their requirements are different. Get a new tank immediately.

>>2262346
could use a 150 on a thermostat (which is heavily recommended) so you dont need to upgrade the bulb when you get a new tank/enclosure of 40+ gallons

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Have you folks heard about this?

>According to a Facebook post that recently went viral, a man devastated by the death of his girlfriend grew very attached to a 10-foot cobra which he believes is his lost partner reincarnated. For the last couple of years, the two have been inseparable, doing everything together, from watching TV to going to the gym.

http://www.odditycentral.com/news/man-allegedly-lives-with-snake-he-thinks-is-his-dead-girlfriend-reincarnated.html

>>2262411
10/10 top tier cobro I'm slightly jealous and want one but also mortified at having a loose cobra
Hope this lasts for whatever reason it has this long and that the snake doesnt pop him "out of the blue"

>>2262409
I actually have a 150 right now, but its being used by my BP
I'm trying to sort her into a tub with some heat tape so that way its vacant for this guy later

>>2262411
Godamn does the snake follow him everywhere? Jelly

Anyone know a good online shop to buy live moss in the UK?

My local reptile shop doesn't have any, only like dead stuff. But I want to have a nice green moss carpet on the ground for my snails.

Could I like treat moss from outside somehow and use it?

>>2255291
>>2255282
This

We do the best we can for our animals. I spend whatever I need to to keep my Beardie happy and if I lose power, I'm going to do the same as this poster did, that's not mistreatment anymore than having captive animals in general is and if you think that then fine but given that these animals can lead long, healthy (seemingly happy) lives in the care of us ugly ass primates.... I think I'm going to keep keeping them

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>>2262670
Pic related is Spyro

>>2262606
I don't know about online but check at gardening centres.

>>2262162
Holy shit I bought that piece of wood was someone's arm

>>2262162
update
I've named him Fritz
and he's settling in pretty nicely, took some collard greens from my hand
he's not too keen on these wax worms, they dont move a whole lot so I dont think they're stimulating his appetite

>>2262798
huh, it really does doesn't it

Any special tips to keep my beardies salad from shriveling up during the day?

>>2263319

this is a lord of cinder

>>2263304
dont put it on the warm side of the tank is really the only option
Its gonna shrivel up and need to be thrown out by the end of the day/next morning if your lazy anyway.
Im just glad my iguana is a pig and will eat everything within a few hours

>>2263330
i figured as much, it just feels wasteful because my beardie is still young and only eats salad sparingly

I was kind of forcibly given a leopard gecko. Moved to a new state and am lovong with family for a bit. From what i understand, she was hardly ever given water before. How is she still alive? Im talking days or even weeks with barely any water, maybe even none at all. Theres a small water bowl in there that i fill up, and she drinks it. Sometimes she runs out and spends a minute or two drinking. Did she just get used to not having water or what?

>>2263496
they are desert species so water is kind of a luxury anyway
if they've been feeding it, it probably had enough water to get by just on crickets

>>2263330
my uro is the same i will leave him a heap of salad and greens and lentils and it'll mostly be gone by the end of the day

his lamp makes it so fucking hot even on the cool side of the tank that shit shrivels up after a few hours

>>2263334
thats fairly normal they tend to care more for the insects as they are young but its good to provide them with salad aswell

Can also mix in some mealworms with a salad if it likes them and it will most likely eat some by proxy

>>2263586
I'll probably end up doing that anyway, but he doesn't seem to interested in worms right now
I don't think they move enough.

About when can I sex them though?

My beardie is agressive as hell. He just bites me and starts shakin his head to really tear at my hand. I'm afraid he'll never want to chill with me and watch Jurassic Park like my old iguana.

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My Pacman frog will not eat anything other than mice. This is a relatively new issue, and it's not like I feed him mice all that often (just 1 fuzzy one time a month). Other than that, he usually eats once or twice a month, typically either mealworms or crickets. However, about the last 3 or 4 times I've tried to feed him something other than a mouse, he's wanted none of it. He'll suck down a mouse without a second thought, but he just tries to get away when there are bugs crawling around.

He hasn't really lost weight, he's a little deflated because he never eats, physically he looks absolutely fine, believe me, I check all the time. He can't be impacted because he only gets fed out of his enclosure, and is passing regular stools, no sign of internal or external parasites.

Is he just a picky little jew or am I missing something?

>>2263719
>Other than that, he usually eats once or twice a month

I meant once or twice a week. He gets fed weekly or bi-weekly, depending on how busy I am that week

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I work at a pet store and someone dumped their boa constrictor with us. It looks to be really emaciated. I can feel its ribs when I pick it up and the spine is clearly visible when it bends. It's about 2 years old.

I took it home to fatten it up but I'm not sure if it has IBD or something like that. Haven't noticed any neurological signs but I'm taking it to the vet for a check up on Thursday.
Right now it's in hard quarantine in a bin that's roughly 36 inches long by 13 inches wide. Got a heating pad on one side that's about 90-93 degrees and I have a heater in the room keeping it about 80.

My main question is what is the best way to transport this snake to the vet? In a pillowcase? Or a rubbermaid bin? Or what?

Also if he comes back clear, what's the best way to fatten it up? Apparently it'd been on a hunger strike for 2 months but seems like it must have been really underfed before that.

Any advice welcome.

Pic is of snake.

>>2263693
go a couple weeks just resting your hand in his tank every other day, 15 minutes each time. even flighty cage aggressive beardies tame down a lot with time and patience.

>>2263880
honestly I would just recommend you take it slow and steady. Don't try to overfeed it to make it gain weight faster, it'll probably just end up hurting it.

>>2263719
try mealworms/waxworms/phoenix worms/hornworms in a smooth sided dish they can't climb out of and leave the dish in there every other night. you may have to wait him out for a while until he realizes the rodent gravy train has dried up and he needs to eat something.

/herp/? more like /herpes/ lmao

>>2263887
we had shirts made for our herpetology class
on the back in big letters it reads
WE GOT HERPS
I've gotten many a laugh out of people for it

>>2263880
re; transport

Pillowcase or snake bag tied closed and put in a cardboard box with some crumpled newspaper for padding. If you use a pillowcase, wash it and dry without any fabric softener or dryer sheets first.

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My new curly tail lizard is doing fine.
He looked pretty fucked up and thin when I got him but now he's THICC and colorful.

>>2262214
When you say the "cute" names before that it's not eating you show how much you care. Learn how to keep a herp. If you want something with a silly name with no experienced required try to have a baby.

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Corn cuteness SUPREME!
/watch?v=tKB0T1eEvvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLES7MpE2DE
F 4:30

>>2263947

Looking great!

how many small crickets should I be going through a week with my juvenile beardie? he's about 5-6 inches long right now
He only eats about three of them at each feeding session

also any tips for removing uneaten crickets? these little shits are a pain in the ass to catch again especially when they get under the paper towels

>>2264077
Poor guy, rip Sunshine
F

Seeing such a huge snake lifeless is really creepy

>>2264077
damn that's awful
rip

>>2263880
I've never seen anyone manage to underfeed a boa.

>>2264352
are you saying it looks healthy? I don't own any boas, personally. Only smaller snakes.

>>2264360
No, it doesnt at all.
Boas always have a crazy appetite, that snake is seriously neglected. Just a matter of neglect and likely bad husbandry to make it stop eating. Boas are really easy to care for, it's sad to see someone managed to fuck that up.

>>2264364
Oh. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. The pet store I work at is pretty bad in terms of reptile care. The invoice from 2 years ago showed a 29 gallon tank that was bought with it, so they probably didn't upgrade, were probably only feeding live mice (no rats) for its entire life, and I'm sure the heating was nowhere near adequate.

That's why I took it home. I know it'd have died there in a heartbeat.

>>2264385
my baby red tail eats 2 fuzzys a week and he swallows the 2nd as soon as he possibly can
he eats f/t and live, he really just doesn't care
one of my balls is the same way, and the other is a bit more picky
my adult ball will catch the rat in the air when I put it in the feeding tank, he ate two last week a day apart

retic checking in, no pics but I'll grab some later
she's a qt

How do you guys deal with the electricity bill? Is there any way to tune it down?
I'v been using a 75 watt heat lamp bulb, is a ceramic heat emitter with the same wattage drain less energy?
I heard too much risks involving UTTH like burns and burnouts even with the best thermostats, but how good of a substitute is it conpared to a heat lamp? I covered most of the lid with a paper foam board so heat remains inside.

>>2264532
That will add an insignificant amount to your electric bill

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Heres my corn https://youtu.be/MYGASyRMcb4

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>>2264625
Get a better camera
Good snek though.

>>2264532
CHE's are a bit more efficient than heat lamps, yes. Probably wouldn't make a big difference with your bill though.

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Is there any information on ranking the effectiveness of different brands and models of terrarium hoods are as far as reflectivity for UV and heat? Or, if not, a ranking by style (un/polished aluminum, white paint, steel, shallow/deep dome, etc)?

>>2255256
what a cutie

Any way to get my beardie more interested in hunting crickets?
I know this is probably just new parent syndrome, but im concerned he's not eating enough
he doesn't really have interest in the crickets unless they climb up on his basking stick

he'll occasionally take one from me if I offer it by hand, same with pieces of veggies

NEW THREAD TIME

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>>2264689

hi anon, I reposted this question in the new thread because i'm curious too.

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>>2263880
Do you have any better, closer photos? It doesn't look emaciated or even underweight here.

There's literally no reason to suspect IBD unless it's showing symptoms. If you live in the US, IBD is extremely rare.

>>2264434
That's overfeeding. You need to be feeding a single feeder at a time, and are those fuzzy rats or mice?

>>2264532
I have 2 120 watt panels, 2 100 watt CHEs, 2 80 watt panels, 5 flexwatt sheets, and 2 75 watt bulbs plus a quartz space heater. That all adds maybe $20 to my monthly bill.

>>2264754
Responded to you in the next thread
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