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The Plant General - Amorphophallus edition
>" うわー、あなたはとてもアジア男性よりもはるかに長大です!"

Welcome to /plant/, the magical green place on this blue board. ITT: We shill my Nepenthes collection, uncover plont's birth certificate and continue to ogle sexy pots full of Dionaea.

/Plant/ is for the discussion of plants (obviously). Horticulturists, hobbyists and botanists welcome! Questions about plants? Want to show off your two inch dick-I mean plant? Maybe you want to start growing something new and exciting? Well come on over to /plant/!

Introducing a new basic caresheet with every thread: easy Amorphophallus species
>first and foremost, these are seasonal plants with tuberous dormancy periods over autumn(fall)/winter
>big deep pot for stability and plenty of room below the surface for the tuber
>loose, aerated, well-draining soil (keep moist at all times during growth)
>rich organic content and frequent high-phosphate fertilising, depending on species (A. titanum and tropical species might need more trace elements)
>partially-shaded light is best, full sun if you're in the UK or other low-light Sharia zones
>20-25°c works for most species during growing season, increase it for the harder tropical stuff
>dormancy - once the leaf wilts and begins to die, stop watering. Leave the soil to dry, then carefully dig up the tubers. Depending on the species, store for 3-7 months in a sealed ziplock bag full of their old dry soil (cooler temps of around 15°c are ideal) until it's time for the cycle to begin again
>many species produce copious amounts of bulbs and/or bulbils so make sure you don't accidentally bin any
>towering, rotten cock flowers will only appear several years in, so don't get your hopes up

For our carnivorous plant newbies:
Approved forums:
Terraforums.com
flytrapcare.com
CPUKforum.com

Good place(s) for newbie carnivorous plant growers:
sarracenia.com
nepenthesaroundthehouse.com

Previous thread: >>2230320
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muh strawberry is still producing flowers.
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knautia arvensis seedlings.
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fallopia baldschuanica.
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>>2239829
Solid stuff bugguy, you've got some nice stuff to add when you're not shitposting. You've reminded me actually, I need to go rescue my strawberry plant from my old house.
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Help. I think my cactus is sick. Could it be plague? How do I treat it?
It's a new cactus. It already had those marks when I bought It.
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>>2239829
You let invasive knotweeds grow in your garden? Wew, would kill asap if I saw one here, even the native ones are a pain
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I'm a forester in the midwest. I like to answer tree questions. Ask me tree questions

>pic is an especially red cedar I removed when my saw was new-ish
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>>2239955
why do you call yourself treefriend if you cut them down

more like treenemy >:(
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>>2239956
There will always be more cedars. The landowner wanted to open up the understory and get some oak regen. I dont think he kept up on it though so there's probably more cedars where I dropped that one.
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I'd like to make leaf preserves. My Ctenitis sloanei is definitely on that list, but I'm also wanting to do common tree species like
Red Mangrove
Live Oak
Sea Grape
West Indian Mahogany
Gumbo Limbo
Slash Pine
Bald Cypress
What should I do to make the look nice and flat? Most of these leaves don't get very big, but it's nice to have stuff like this because they come in handy and look pretty.
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>>2239955
How much sudden oak death (mold) have you seen?
I believe it took out a few of my neighbors oaks.
He sold out to another neighbor and I believe they're going to track it back to their main oak grove.

I luckily don't have any serious oaks after my land was long, but I have live oaks that I've transplanted from a friends property and some bur oaks and sawtooth oaks I've grown from acorns- does SOD affect live oaks or the others? I'd like to protect them if possible.
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>>2239988
>*I don't have many oaks left after my land was logged.
Stupid autocorrect.
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>>2239988
I had to do alittle reading because I haven't had any direct experience with SOD and it was only briefly mentioned in my pathogens class.

Live oaks are susceptible, as are bur and sawtooth. As for prevention, it's primarily spread by rain splash, so if these are planted in your yard or something away from other trees they're probably fine. If they're out in the woods, you might have some trouble. If all the oaks were logged off the land you're probably in better shape, but it can infect some other tree species enough to spread. Apparently its spores can also survive in the litter layer, so maybe rake the brush away from the base of your trees.

Again, this is all my interpretation from briefly reading about it. I could be incorrect, I don't have a good feel for how really SOD spreads.
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>>2239461
You are welcome m8
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I'll just finish my rating from last thread

>>2239810
>>2239825
>>2239904
>>2240128
Cute

>>2239829
Beautiful

>>2239955
Conflicted

Comfy general you guys have here
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You bitches mirin my dorm plants? Better be
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>>2240143
thanks anon

Btw the fly escaped
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>>2240158
A shot and a miss
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Can anyone tell me what the fern looking thing in the background is? Bought it in a garden center for some enclosures and it seems to be doing really well in constant 90% humidity so I want some more but they don't seem to have it anymore.
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>>2240175
Here is a close up.
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>>2240175
Asparagus fern
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>>2240183
Thank you.
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I posted this I. The old thread, but by then it hit the bump limit.

I recently bought a succulent, which wasn't in too good of a condition to begin with, but it looks like it's rotting at the roots. What do?

I also have a jade plant that I water at most once a week. The soil is hard as fuck when it's dry. Should I change the soil out? I bought this one two months ago, so I'm not sure when the soil was changed last.
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>>2239913
fallopia baldschuanica isn't that invasive.

it doesn't produce seeds or root suckers, it grows 30+ feet a year though.
>>2239955
birch trees all over my country are dying.

they don't have any clear symptoms (no spots on their leaves, no canker), it just looks similar to what you'd expect during a drought and takes about 2-3 years to kill a tree.

any idea what's causing it? I figured it's just a result of global warming.
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>>2240225
as a pioneer species birches don't get very old

Didn't the netherlads only start planting forest not too long ago? Like 150 years or so? Maybe they're just old and dieing off and there aren't many new ones because they can't pioneer any new or recently damaged forest.
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Orchid friend here
For some reason, of all orchid types, I'm struggling most with making a cambria mix/odontoglossum cross flower. I mean, despite half murdering it by forgetting to water it when it was new to my collection, my husbandry (is it called that if it isn't animals?) Has changed a lot and I have 2 phals in flower/about to flower, a dendrobium happily flowering away and an odontoglossum currently sending out a lot of stems.

What the fuck could I be doing wrong? Pic related
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>>2240242
Hfff okay that posted the wrong way round. Posting my odontoglossum instead then...
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>>2240225
Are you talking about B. pubescens? A couple threads back I had reported issues with mine too if you remember, while my B. pendula is still fine
(Both 30 years old at the very max)
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So uh
Does anyone want some spooderplants?
>pic related, smallest of my ten plants
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>>2240229
they're not much older than 50 and it's not in forests, they're just random trees that stand in solidarity.

we don't plant birch forests.

>>2240248
both, and combinations of both since they cross-breed a lot.
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This might sound stupid, but I've been considering buying a plant fossil for a while (closest I have rn are amber fossils), is there anything you guys would reccomend? Ferns are pretty common and stuff, but you guys might know better than me.
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>>2240363
most plant fossils are ugly or too valuable to sell. get trilobites
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>>2239802
Is nepenthesaroundthehouse your website?
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collected a fuck ton of Solidago gigantea roots today.

I'll take some pictures tomorrow, it's too dark now.
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>>2240376
No but it's got photos and a brief outline of many many Nep species and hybrids (by far the best carnivorous genus by anyone's standards). When I was starting out it was a nice site to explore, a little old-school and corny, but I added it to the list anyway.
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How do I grow plants if I live in a climate too warm for them? I want to grow Tamarack in zone 6b but Tamarack is hardy from 2-5. What limits the Tamarack's hardiness on the warmer end of the scale?
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>>2240464
What I do for my plants is bring them indoors when its too hot. Some plants I grow are hardy to zone 6 or 7 but they do fine in 9b, provided I keep an eye on them
>disclaimer: will only work for potted plants9
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>>2240464
just grow Larix decidua instead.
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>>2240476
Meh, isn't the point of growing conifers in oceanic climates to have something green to look at during winter? That's at least why here, pines, cypresses, thujas and cedars are grown a lot in gardens, to reduce a bit the grey/brown depressing winter landscape
Here a really nice Cedrus atlantica I came across back in March
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Where can I buy generic (non-cultivar) versions of plants? Most of the nurseries around me only carry weird cultivars of stuff because it is more lucrative. Pretty annoying having to drive two and a half hours to get to someplace which has a normal acer buergerianum, and even then to buy it as rootstock.
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>>2240491
online is probably your best bet
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What's a good book on Botany? What about an all around gardening book?
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>>2240375
I don't really like them much. Right now I have:
Amber in Stonefly
Raw amber
Spino tooth
Coprolite
Orthoceras
Orthoceras Plate
Megaloceros Leg
Fish vertebra
Fish fossils

I'm thinking a plant fossil would be cool, if not I might get a tapir vertebra.
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>>2240549
But then you get raped by shipping costs reeeee
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Muh yam
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Question: how do i get my pitcher plant to start making pitchers again?
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>>2240629
Sarracenia or Nepenthes?
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>>2240225
>Global warming

You don't actually believe in that shit do you?
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>>2240668
pls go pol
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>>2240484
tamarack isn't green during the winter, they're deciduous.

nothing grows underneath evergreen conifers, you'll effectively waste garden space.
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>>2240681
Correction, US/pol/. The rest are considerably less retarded.
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post your favorite tree
I contribute populus tremuloides, quaking aspen. cool ass leaves, white bark. heaviest known single organism is a stand of these in Utah.
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>>2240859
Laburnum anagyroides is the only tree species that I like.
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>>2240143
Sometimes you have to take out trees to see progress.

>>2240225
If the foresters in your country don't know then I'm not going to pretend I can figure it out. If your climate has changed noticeably that could certainly be it. I think certain birches have a pretty specialized climate range.

>>2240859
Cottonwood, Eastern Redcedar, Silver Maple
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>>2240881
Betula pendula is native to zone 2-7.

the netherlands is 8a, but the winters haven't gotten much colder than what you'd expect from 9a in the past 5 years.
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>>2239956
shooo, dirty hippe, shooo
don't make me get the soap and water
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>>2240225
>I figured it's just a result of global warming.

Genius. Can't wait for your paper in nature.
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>>2240628
nice
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>>2239802
>Amorphophallus edition
Best edition.

I have A. nepalensis, konjac and bulbifer for now.
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>>2240947
I was asked to write an article for my local newspaper a few weeks ago, wrote an article about how shit cats and their owners are and attached a fake email to it, got 9k+ hate mail.
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>>2240693
Less needle drop per time though with evergreens, thus less annoying sweeping work in autumn plus less soil acidification
Also in comparison you'd just lose some place to put early blooming flowers because not much else grows in winter anyway when the deciduous tree would be naked (other than weeds such as veronica, lamiums and chickweed - in a time of the year where you want to have a break from constant weeding, so might as well suppress them in the first place)
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>>2240956
wow, just like a real scientist
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>>2240877
Meh, they're quite nice in March because they flower early, but otherwise you have to keep them in shape actively else they form shrubby thickets
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Ey plantfags I got an empty 60x30x30 (14 gallons) tank and thought about using it for plants.

Problem is I can't give it that much light and it's always about 26-29c (78,8 - 84,2 F) in my room because I keep exotic insects.

What would actually thrive in it?
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>>2240960
deciduous conifers aren't as dense as evergreens, even during the growing season.

you forgot helleborus.
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>>2240967
you're thinking of Forsythia or Cornus mas, L. anagyroides doesn't flower until may.
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>>2240968
A pothos but that's like cheating anyway.

Korean Melody and Triton cuttings prepared for in vitro.
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>>2240459
do you have bladder problems, Bugguy?

But seriously, what do you do with these roots?
There are a fuckton of these growing near where I live.
Are these neophytes any good (besides beiing diuretic)?

>>2240560
I know a few pretty good scientific ones
Which language?

>>2240956
kek
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>>2240952
Nice choices, A. konjac in particular is quite glorious. Unfortunately I've still only got A. yuloensis, basically a smaller A. bulbifer but with explosive reproductive capabilities. Started with one tiny bulb 3 growth seasons ago, now I have at least 30 bulbs, and about 80+ bulbils, extra bulbils which form in addition to the central one, then ones on the leaves above those. Shit's crazy.
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>>2240994
I'm going to plant them once I stop falling asleep right after work.

they look nice and they're hardy, the only downside is that they're invasive as fuck but you can control that if you trim them right after they're done flowering.

they flower during the after summer, not a whole lot of plants do so that's nice.
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>>2241052
>Nice choices
It's just what I could get my hands on from local sellers.

A. konjac and Typhonium venosum also reproduce like crazy.
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>>2240973
Are you sure? Pic related is from March 2 this year. I don't know any other shrub flowering yellow so early in the year here at 50°N
...but wiki-hopping a bit, it might indeed be Forsythia europaea instead
Then again this "winter" was really not representative at all, we had Prunus dulcis and P. cerasifera beginning to flower in late January
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Is it unethical to divide my purp and doom the divisions to die by giving them away to clueless amateurs just because they're my friends?
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>>2241239
I'd say so... although it is a purp, it'll bounce right back on your end. Just tell them they're cunts and all-round morons if they let something as easy as a purp die.
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>>2241239
We all had to start somewhere.
Do you really need the justification? If you can sleep at night then fuck it.
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Any advice on what to do with lotus seeds and water lily ?sprouts? The parent plants tend to over shade them, so I'm wondering if I should take them out and move them. Would an aquarium be sufficient? If so, could I use substrate meant for aquarium plants.
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I'd also like some advice on planting tree ferns in a 20 gallon terrarium until they grow larger. It's mostly immersed aquarium plants and a type of bog fern. Do they require a good amount of air movement like orchids? They've been sealed in the plastic bag I've bought them in for a while, and some fronds are starting to try and push through.
http://www.growhawaii.com/hawaiian_hapuu_tree_fern_plant_cuttings_more_info.htm
is the product.
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>>2240243
Because winter is coming, open the window just a little during that season. See if the lower night temps helps to get it to flower.
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>>2240968
See if you can find Drosera of the Petiolaris complex. They like it moist and hot.
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Hey /plant/, I posted my own thread about the issue but I figured you guys might be able to help me.

>>2241234

Any ideas on what's happening to my tomato plant? Thanks.
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>>2241327
What the fuck
It looks infected with something. Why are so many sick plants posted in this thread it's sad :-(
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>>2241202
yeah that's Forsythia, it's normal for them to flower early.

L. anagyroides is a tree, it's not going to look like a shrub no matter how much you abuse it.
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>>2241358
We're competing with our best buds r/SavageGarden
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>>2241327
Heh, and I thought I was the only one to have a tricot tomato
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Was gifted these plant but have no idea what they are. Could anyone help me identify them?
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>>2241693
lol you're fucked
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>>2241698
How bad is it?
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Aralia balfouriana, started from a cutting about a third of this size
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>>2239983
There's a lot of stuff online which i think makes pressing over difficult, I have to do a collection for my woody ID class and i just throw them in a phonebook and stack stuff on top of it. Seems to work, pic related
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Hey, what is this?
Will it kill my plant?
I think it's a fungus.
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>>2241749
no, it's just some harmless mold.
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>>2241751
>harmless
My sinuses say otherwise.
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>>2241712
From the same family, I planted a Fatsia japonica in a semi-shady spot of my garden in September in zone 8a, so let's hope for another mild winter... (once established, stronger frosts may kill the above-ground parts and the plant can re-shoot, but in the first year they're apparently a bit more sensitive)
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Anyone got an idea what's wrong with one of my Euonymus fortunei? Planted two of them back in May and both are expose to same conditions and maybe 50cm apart, but one of them is barely growing and turning red - shroom infection?
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Do you guys do terrariums?

Can you give me any tips or point me in the direction of a good book for them?
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>>2242102
Use good lights.
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>>2240681
>>2240742
Humans haven't been around long enough to affect the environment that significantly.
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>>2242382
Try telling that to the hundreds of extinct species of the last couple centuries, and just about every megafauna species in the Americas.
>also nobody said it's entirely anthropogenic - but it's unquestionable that plenty of climates ARE changing
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Anyone here with bonsai experience? Got a juniper bonsai, they repotted it on a normal pot, bit deep will post photo later. Is there any problem with that?
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>>2242480
depends on whether you disturbed the roots.

if you removed the old soil from around the roots it's a goner.
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>>2242480
Most trees resent root disturbance. They generally only tolerate it coming out of winter dormancy. If you slip-potted it (pulled it out by rootball, leaving rootball undisturbed) then you'll be fine but if you bare-rooted it, it's dead.
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>>2242697
most trees survive being bare-rooted just fine.

conifers however do not.
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>>2242708
Most trees will die if you fuck with the roots, including bare-rooting, if they are not dormant. Right now is iffy depending on the peson's location.
Source: experience

I'm not sure if Junipers have symbiotic relationships with mycelium colonies in the soil, I do know you should never replace more than 1/3-1/2 of a juniper's soil in a year.
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>>2242758
trees have been semi-dormant for a while now.

after the summer solstice their sap stream slows down.

you can get away with bare rooting most trees as long as you water them constantly.
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>>2240628
oh god it's preparing to attack!
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i got some of those chinese lucky "bamboos" which are not bamboos for free. Do they stay short or is there any chance itll grow sky-high like i seem some of them on sale?
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>>2242807
Lucky 'bamboo' is just Dracaena braunii, not bamboo at all. I'm not sure just how big they get, but some Dracaena can get very, very big
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>>2242897
The top seems to be capped with wax. Will that inhibit growth?
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How would one go about improving soil?
I have a shady spot the previous home owners planted some hostas and hellebore, but it looks a little shit.
Slowly add compost throughout the year and hope for the best?
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>>2242923

It will inhibit it from going a nice stalk like it would naturally, but it can have some pretty large leave bunches.
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>>2242967
Any way to revert this? Peeling off the wax shows a dried out top
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>>2242402
>hundreds of extinct species
Over 99 percent of all species that ever existed on earth have gone extinct.

The planet will be fine. The only thing we should be worrying about is if we can adapt after the weather has changed significantly.
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>>2242959
Cook a pot of oatmeal, add water till its basically soup, add some used coffee grinds, sprinkle over the ground and water every day.
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>>2243046
I thought we told you to go away pol
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>>2243050
I'm not from pol, I'm from here.

I'm also not shit posting, just making comments. Unwind your panties.
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>>2243056
>>unwind my panties
>feels the need to use faulty logic to deny anthropogenic global climate change
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>>2243046
Yeah, 99% of shit that's ever existed - you seem to be overlooking the sheer timescale of that. What's currently going on is considered an extinction event now, just look at the geologically-short-term irreversible effects humans have made through habitat destruction, deforestation etc., none of that is 'fine'.
>weather will change
Yeah, and over the next couple centuries seas will also rise and wipe out many coastal areas of shit countries - are you fine with billions of third-world people swarming up out of tropics into your country because they can't swim?
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Found this in the middle of nowhere all alone in the sandy wasteland, I took it home with me and tried to give it the same environment it was in. It is still alive. What is it's name and how do I take care of it?
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This plant I bought a month ago looks like the fused version of a cultivar I just discovered that exists.
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>>2243101
>attempting to understand VFT cultivars
Wew, good luck with that. VFTs are so terribly organised in cultivation, doesn't help when every fucker who makes any seeds wants to name their own personal cultivar. Your fused red thing probably isn't the shit in the book though... don't see much of a resemblance.
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>>2243097
Does it exude white sap when the leaves are bent/torn?
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>>2243103
Yes, it does from the ovals on the stem.
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>>2243102
Well it has the red line in the petioles and the extended color on the "lips"...
Anyway what I meant is what you just said, dionaea cultivars are mostly retarded.

Btw have a pic of my S. X readii, that grows its better pitchers when the rest of sarracenia are going to sleep.
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>>2243105
Whatever you do DONT PUT IT IN YOUR EYE
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ordered Teucrium chamaedrys and Perovskia atriplicifolia blue spire for my new border.

trying to figure out why T. chamaedrys isn´t used more often since it's nice and hardy.
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Cydonia oblonga.

aka the most useless fruit known to man.
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garden looking empty as fuck and I accidently torched my grass a while ago but it´s recovering nicely.
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frontyard looking pretty good.
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>>2243169
>>2243170
Looks nice as usual.
>haven't touched mine since early July, and it shows
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>>2243205
I knew I should have thinned these marigolds out.
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>>2243205
needs more blue.
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So how much can you cut off of a grape vine and still have it live? Can you trim it all the way down to rootstock? The grapes I have are pretty big now and their little support thing, which is built like an overhead arch is starting to waiver, so I'm thinking of trimming the vines down, and rebuilding the support.
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>>2243093
>are you fine with billions of third-world people swarming up out of tropics into your country because they can't swim?

Yes, actually. It will force people to fucking adapt.
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Stopped at parents', dumping stuff from their backyard
1. Seed grown fan palm, 7 years old
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Sorry about orientation
2. Burst pomegranate.
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3. Random cactus
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4. 2 dormant grapevines
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5. Perpetually stunted apple tree. This tree makes apples that are larger than my fist, but it's like 5' tall
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6. closeup of a random tree. It attracts a shitton of hummingbirds and butterflies though. ID pls?
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7. My purp. Doing great, just seems to really like clumping
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>>2243394
The fly did not make it.
8. 1/3 aloe varieties
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9. 2/3 aloe varieties
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10. 3/3 aloe varieties
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>>2243393
a sad looking Duranta erecta.
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11. 10 year old seed grown stone pine
This fucker is like 12ft tall
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>>2243403
It does look pretty sad right now, it's emerald green during the summer though
12. 12 year old mystery pine from yosemite. This thing grows outwards, not up, like the average american
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13? Chlorophytum, ~16 years old?
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14. A very, very sad fig tree. Got it as rootstock from Lowes and planted it on the hill we have, but the soil's pH was way out of tolerance and it nearly died. I think it might be permanently stunted, but it does produce some nice figs
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15. Christmas cactus flower
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16. Anthurium sp.
The poor man's peace lily
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18? Jujubee tree. 1/10 would not recommend. Roots grow everywhere, runners can punch through brick, overeager fruit producer, spiny.
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17. One more after this. Eschscholzia californica rekt by wind
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19. Crassula ovata that aspires to be a tree. Dream big little plant.
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>>2243384
What kind of cactus is that? Are those spider webs?
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>>2243426
jades get pretty fucking big.
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>>2243432
Holy jesus christ. Well I think this little guy>>2243426 still has a ways to go, it's like a 2 year old rooted cutting
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>>2243435
that tree is only 27 years old.
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>>2243437
wew lad. I always thought they were tiny little shrub-like things
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>>2243451
they usually look like shit when they get bigger and end up being cut down, hence why there's so many pictures of huge slabs of trimmed jade on google.

I've seen a few nice ones, I've been trying to buy a big one for a while but they're either overpriced or ugly.
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>>2243455
Doesnt seem that logical to grow them without supports when they get big, since they're not woody and big plants probably have shit structural integrity
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>>2243456
from what I've seen it looks like all the nice big ones are grown from a straight branch cutting of another large tree.
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>>2243461
Oh. I've never seen them propogated from whole branches. But i guess the cells would have grown in such a way thst they can support a lot of weight
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>>2243397
>>2243398
>>2243401
I'll leave most of mine outside this winter. I need space for better stuff.
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>>2243456
Only indoor crassulas look like shit (like in this pic >>2243455).
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>>2243471
they can't be grown outdoors year-round here and I've seen plenty of good looking ones.


sadly most of them have multiple trunks, that's a turn-off.
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>>2243482
If they're at 5°C during dormancy it shouldn't be a problem.
Most people tend to take care of them. That's a bad idea. Put them in some shitty sandy-gritty soil, repot once per decade and never water (rain is enough). Keeps them nice and compact.

>sadly most of them have multiple trunks
Yeah, seems like not much can be done about that
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>>2243456
what? they clearly have a woody stem when they're larger.
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>>2243485
Yeah, they do. My bad. I thought they have a wood-like texture on the outside but have the internal structure of an herbaceous plant
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>>2243484
can I throw them in my basement in the winter like my brugmansias or do they need light during their dormancy.
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>>2243493
I used to have them in the dark. Doesn't matter as long as it's cold. They even flowered in there.
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>>2243497
it's not exactly cold in my basement, my brugmansias started sprouting way before they were able to go outside, maybe like 10-13C.

but my shed gets way too cold and my house has like 3 feet of insulation so that's out of the question too.
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>>2243499
>10-13C
I think that could work, just keep them dry.
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>>2243388
Where do you grow? From your other stuff I assume it's some hot subtropical steppe climate, apples are more a temperate thing, so maybe you have to water it some more
>>2243484
I've already brought in mine, as nighttime lows are down to around 5-8°C here right now (put them on the window sill of the sleeping room, temps being mostly 13-18°C in there, should simulate South African winter quite well). They're all cuttings started from a bigger shrub back in January, and spent the summer outside.
Left two are from tiny head cuttings, right one from a leaf I got to root (was experimenting both methods)
I want to give the leftmost one a more tree-like appearance so I'm regularly pruning lower leaves and wannabe side shoots, while the other 2 I let grow naturally and bushy
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>>2243484
>>2243561
Oh and during summer, despite being succulents, they guzzle water like there's no tomorrow, they're sucking their pot soil dry much faster than most other stuff, even quicker than the also thirsty Canarian date palms
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>>2243561
Parents are in 9b, I'm more 9a-ish. I figured it was water, but it doesn't seem to help, and the tree still makes really nice apples so it's whatever
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>>2243566
Yeah just 8a here, would never risk planting a Washingtonia palm in the ground, even Trachycarpus is kinda borderline here
But it's also important how much rain you get and when it falls (hereabout 500mm/year and mostly during summer months), as well as the soil (heavy clay here which retains moisture well)
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>>2243575
>clay
>rain
as a californiafag, ur ability to have water is waterist and oppressing my plants and i. i suggest u chexk ur privilege.
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>>2243589
my plants are drowning because it's been raining for days straight, you can have some of my water if u want?
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>>2243589
It has its downsides, for example when your rosemary dies over winter not because of cold temperature, but because it's overwatered by nature, so you need to amend soil in the "opposite direction" for certain plants here too (and then comes a dry summer which also kills them because you mixed in sand, REEEEEE)
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>>2243593
When I was growing flytraps, I lost some small ones because they would dry out in a day without watering. It's almost impossible to transplant anything outside of during the wintertime because of the level of transpiration. I will gladly take your water
>>2243595
>pic related
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>>2243595
water is fucking shit, everything here drowns in the winter.
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>>2243563
>they guzzle water like there's no tomorrow
Yeah, but that doesn't mean they can't go without. They're succulents after all.
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Everybody is having problems with jade and here I ak with this plant that was just a cutting I stole from some pot that was in front of a store.
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I have to post this dionaea salad bowl every thread. It's tradition.
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Also yesterday I visited a friend who owns a nursery and these are his Drosophyllum. They smell like honey, quite noticeable.
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>>2243917
>Everybody is having problems with jade
How retarded do you have to be to have problems with a plant that requires little to almost no care?
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>>2243917
>problems with jade
Growing jade and growing a large plant that is aesthetically pleasing are two different things friendo.
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>>2243919
Sleep tight snapper
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>>2244001
They still have a month to go. I'll give them their last snack on Wednesday.
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My Myrmecodia is producing fruits apparently
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Why is the foliage of my Lantana camara turning all purple?
At first I thought it's some sort of cold protection as the thyme and oregano I planted out a little early (late February) did the same, but then again I had the Lantana outside for much longer in 2014 and 15 (December and November repectively), and despite being exposed to colder temps for much longer, it didn't do that. Currently highs are around 11-15, lows 5-8°C (coldest it got so far +4.8)
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>>2243401
what species is this? Also,
ow big is your fucking yard what the fuck
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>>2242481
>>2242697
no problem. im thinking about being a deep pot and i always see bonsais in small pots. Im new at this this is my first plant and i dont want to see it die :'(
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>>2244845
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Late May and mid October
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>>2244076
Very nice.
Do you grow it in a greenhouse?
Are they self fertile?
I've been wanting to grow a couple but I'm not sure how easy it'd be to grow since I don't have a greenhouse.
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new plonts arrived.
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fern-wall still going stronk.
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hydrangea paniculata
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one of my shitty bonsai attempts.
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I don't even know what this is supposed to be.
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one of the nicest looking asplenium trichomanes.
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B52 already has bigger traps than Sawtooth and it's not even a young adult
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B52 x B52 seedlings
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What do you think this is? Had it growing in the garden for a few years before someone uprooted it and nearly threw it away. Its got no roots and I was wondering what best to plant it in
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>>2245701
lil closeup
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>>2245701
looks like Aeonium.
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>>2245701
>>2245702
It's an Echeveria or some hybrid containing it (like Graptoveria or Sedeveria)
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>>2245702
>>2245737
Could be Echeveria agavoides "Romeo"
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>>2245527
I´m growing it in a windowsill, because I needed the Terrarium it was in before

Apparently it is self fertile, because it produces fruits despite being the only one in my collection.
But let´s see it the fruits bear viable seeds
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>>2245701
probably some kind of plant
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I've got 2 hanging baskets for each of my rooms, one for each window. On top of potted plants that are already in front of the window. Any recommendations for hanging plants? Only need 3; I have a sider plant that is going in one.

Apparently my spider plant originated from my grandmother's spider plant, who snipped off buds for her kids. And my mother snipped off parts for her kids. 2 are dead and gone already. My brother and I have the two remaining plants.
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>>2245888
Ceropegia woodii is nice.
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>>2245888

I'm a fan of wandering jew and purple passion.
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>>2246114
I didnt know that smoke could be regarded as a plant
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>>2246124
1/10
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>>2245737
>>2245741
Thanks, after looking a bit there are quiet a few Echeveria hybrids that look similar popular in my area. Going to just wait until its grown a bit to figure out the specifics.

>>2245869
Ah! That explains that, I thought it was a form of mineral.
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There go my psittacina seeds...
Let's see if I can get a refund from the seller or Amazon
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I found this plant next to a building and I have no idea what it is, but I want to plant it at my house too. Can anyone tell me what it is?
Long stalks, around six feet tall, Flowers huge and fragrant, smell strongly like honeysuckle.
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>>2246243
brugmansia.

you can take cuttings from it.
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>>2246246
Thank you so much. It's very attractive and smells amazing.
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>>2246248

they're delicious too
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>>2246251
Very funny.
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>>2246251
>when the brugmansia hits you.
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>>2245869
Wait are you sure? That looks a bit like a cat to me
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Is it true that I can break off a leaf of a snake plant, replant it and it'll grow into a new plant?
My mom has one and I was thinking of trying that out.
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>>2246350
Apparently possible but might lose variegation that way
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What are some good indoor plants for my bedroom, something green and pretty but doesn't need a lotta sunlight? because I just have one small window
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>>2246418

I always recommend snake plants, which happen to be directly above your post.

I've gone through a lot of plants, and snake plants are robust as hell, and there are many varieties.
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Has anybody grown this cultivar? Seems to be pretty stronk despite its deformity
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>>2243168
Why is this fruit particularly useless?
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>>2246418
Some figs do well with relatively little light, such as F. benjamina or F. elastica (but not the very common F. carica)
Also lots in the ivy family, such as, well, ivy, Fatsia and Schefflera
Another one that's been doing well for >10 years in a very shady, North-East facing room a couple metres away from the windows is Chlorophytum comosum
What will NOT look nice but is often done in shady indoor places are Yucca and Dracaena specia, so many poor things I've seen totally leggy and spindly, exhausted and hungering for light in dark corners of office rooms...
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>>2246426
>>2246484
Thanks for the info I'll definitely looking into those
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Just got these three glasses as a gift. I need ideas for what to put into them.

Im thinking of moving my small Philodendron into one and moss in another.

South Arizona is a hot bitch year round.
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Drosera admirabilis 'floating' from Baineskloof SA
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>>2243097
I might be wrong but it sorta looks like some sort of brassica?
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Hey guys, I really need your help.
Two weeks ago I bought a Mimosa Pudica. It had two "branches" where the leaves were yellow. The leaves dropped the next day so I cut the branch.
I didn't think much of it and tried my best to keep it hydrated but not overwater it. However the next week another branch turned yellow and died. Now two more are to go. The plant doesn't have much leaves left, it will die and I don't know what to do. It's been 5 days since I humidified the soil, it looks pretty dry yet those are symptoms of overwatering.
I keep the plant on a sunny closed window. Direct sunlight for maybe 1 hour and then cloudy sun for 6.
It's starting to get a bit cold, 14-20 degrees outside.
I will post a photo today.
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>>2246462
it's disgusting, filled with tannoids, carbolic acid and sugar and they're so hard you'll break your teeth on them.

if you put them in a bowl inside they'll smell nice, that's pretty much the only thing you can do with them besides making jam.
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>>2246871
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>>2246875
much like your wrists, so go ahead and trim them ;^)
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>>2246871
What are you talking about, this thing it's glorious.

Go eat some fermented fish that you can't carry in a plane.
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>>2246880
>processing food to the point where it's unrecognizable.
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>>2246784

Pudica likes direct sunlight all day, warmth and a lot of root space. It's a weed in Belize.

It also germinates really well, so I'd buy seeds rather than live plants in the future.
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>>2244076
Fuggin' nice one mate, I hear the seeds are really easy to germinate
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>>2246891
>>2246784
Here they are. The pot seems pretty small now that you say it. I wonder if it will die during repotting. Ive already harvested some seeds for the next spring. I just hope for it to at least live long enough for the other seeds to mature.
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>>2246875
i'd like to see your garden, shitlord
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Tfw they don't make decent hanging pots anymore

>>2245903
I think my friend has some of that, maybe I can grab a clipping.

>>2246114
I may just need to get wandering Jew out of principle
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>>2246728
That plant sucks.
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>>2246995
Makem them yourself. Macrame them. My mom has some she made 30 years ago. My new puppy has taken to jumping up at them to get the danglies.
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could someone identify this plant?
would fit perfect in my room
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>>2247599
you must have a very small room then


but it is Ficus lyrata
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>>2247599
that's a tree that gets >40 feet tall
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>>2247604
>>2247610
but a lot of people use it as a house plant.
Isn't it possible to just cut it at some point?
by now you might get that i have no idea.
just looking for a plant that is rather narrow and goes up to 2m (6.5 feet).
also i can only provide half-shade
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>>2246918
thanks
I just doesn't stop blooming

let's hope the seeds are viable
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>>2239904
That's an apple.
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found myself some fat malvas.
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t h i c c c c c c c c c
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>>2247610
Not if anon root binds it
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Thanksgiving is coming quickly, so dormancy is too. What should I do for my purp when the time comes? Should I leave it outside, in the pot? Or remove it from the pot and place into the fridge with some most media?
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>>2246921
Now my fucking moringa is getting yellow.
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>>2247803
I'd just leave it outside.

Btw, giant dionaea, B52, Giant Rosetted and DC XL. I don't know if DC XL is gonna make it through winter.
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guys? what is this shit? mold? What can do about it? My friend told me I should "spray it with a deodorant". Im not sure if shes serious or just fucking with me....
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>>2247888
That's mold. Fungicide
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>>2247888

your friend is maybe at hinting you need to use deodorant because your plants are in stinky ass wet soil all the time with shitty lighting
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>>2247974
that kind of mold doesn't really smell.
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Will this work to propagate Fittonia?
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>>2247888
Mold isn't necessarily bad, had it appear too when germinating seeds that take a long time in soil with high organic content, while covering the planter with plastic to intentionally ensure high humidity (winter radiator air is pretty dry)
But if it appears like that even on pots like that, it might be an indicator of too much water and too little air circulation
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Huelander here.
Any tips for buying seeds online? I was looking for some alpine strawberry seeds on eBay and 5dvg5 had a big variety of them. I decided to try the Baron Von Solemacher and the rugen varieties since they are pretty different from the ones I have seen here and even put them in the cart but before finishing I decided to check if the seller had other interesting varieties in stock when I noticed things like black strawberry or blue watermelon photoshop images being sold as real products. Immediatelly I removed those seeds from the cart and now I found another seller ksenishulg without apparent scams. But I'm afraid as it is also from Ukraine, have a 100% positive but only 219 score.
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>>2248244
>ebay
have fun being scammed
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>>2247759
how do i manage this?
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>>2248453
put it in some sort of pot.

you could just trim it instead though.
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>>2248454
doesn't it have some negative effects when the growth of roots is limited by the pot?
what would be more sensitive root bounding or trimming?
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>>2248460
ofcourse.

trimming doesn't harm plants, atleast not their overall health.
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>>2248463
thanks

then i just stick with trimming.
i read that a sharp cut and waxing the wound does the best job.
Any opinion on this?
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does anyone know when and how to harvest myrmecodia seeds?
the fruits look the same since about 2 weeks now
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>>2248244
>strawberries
>tropical climate
Don't they need some cold period to induce flowering?
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>>2248465
just chop off the heads every now and then, it'll be growing indoors in a pot anyway so it's growth is going to be stunted, even if it isn't rootbound.

you don't need wax indoors, they only use it outside so the wound doesn't get moldy.
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Does anyone here know about plant hybridisation? My plants keep self pollinating, the children are clones of the parent, they haven't been pollinated by any of their neighbours.

Looking at this image. I should just cut the stamen off to stop it from self pollinating? Then rub the pollen of another flower onto the stigma?
Is that generally how it's done? Will it be hard to stop it from self pollinating? I'll have to take the stamen off ASAP?

My flowers have the same structure as the image. Dianthus genus.
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>>2248484
>american education
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>>2248499
Thanks for your help faggot!!!!
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>>2248472
We do produce strawberries around here. Not sure how alpine ones would behave but I'm actually in the subtropical climate if that helps
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>>2248484
Just manually pollinate as soon as the flowers open
Or collect stamens from father plant and remove them from mother plant
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>>2248539
strawberries can live in tropical climates, but their fruit production will be shit.

the stress from dormancy plays a major role in their fruit production.
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>>2248484
Hybridisation is certainly the wrong term to be using - it's just simple pollination. Also worth pointing out, selfed seedlings aren't clones, just genetically heavily-restricted, sexually-produced offspring.

Anyway yeah, removing either the male or female parts will clearly stop it (assuming you don't want any seeds). Doesn't really sound like much of an issue though desu.
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I randomly bought a flower a couple of weeks ago because I decided I wanted to learn how keep plants. I seem to have overwatered it a lot and it had some mold problems, removed the visible mold on the soil and some moldy leaves and have left it to dry up since then. Hopefully it won't die but I'm worried there's mold under the surface in the soil. It's still kinda moist on the underside when I check the hole underneath even if it's been maybe two weeks since I gave it water.

Any tips or should I just leave it alone as I have until now?
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>>2248591
And here's a new healthy one I bought last week because I refuse to be a quitter, I'm going to learn how to do this thing properly.
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>>2248592
How about you do some research and stop wasting money and killing violets?
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>>2248591
I forgot to say these are african violets and are supposed to be pretty sensitive to be overwatered. I just couldn't figure out how much water or how often I should water it because everything I can find says "it depends".
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>>2248595
So how much water should I give it?
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>>2248597
Trial and error. When you are starting out, try to water a little less than you think it would need, or just give it enough water to cause it start dripping into the saucer. If the plant wilts or looks a little sad, increase the watering next time. If the plant remains perky after this watering, stop and try to remember the amount of water you used. Plants can tolerate being a little drier rhan they would like, but overwatering can cause irreparable damage to its roots and increase the likelyhood of rot and mold
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>>2248599
And I hate to tell you but plants are different. Even my nepenthes clones take in different amounts of light and water. Just guesstimate and hope for the best
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>>2248599
I'll get the watering amount right eventually I suppose. I started being restrictive with the water but when it looked more and more sad with flowers falling off one after the other I kept watering and then I found a bunch of mold. Is it worth inspecting the roots or should I just leave it and hope for the best? I don't care so much about the plant as I do about learning, the plant itself cost me about $2 and my mom has some cuttings of it that will probably survive.
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>>2248605
What the fuck? I recommend you check the soil then. Add perlite to aid in drainage and repot. Discars old soil, sterilize the pot and water. Often times plants from big box stores or shit nurseries will be in incredibly poor shape due to the lack of caring. Just to give you a sense of perspecrite: I burned through about a gallon of water a week for my sarracenia and the moss, almost half a year later still is perfectly fine. A small increase in water shouldn't result in immedieate mold growth.
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>>2248611
perspective
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>>2248611
Alright, I'll buy soil and perlite tomorrow and repot it. Is there a good way to get the soil off the roots or do I just shake it until it's all off?
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>>2248621
gently shake and use a running stream of water. Violets are pretty hardy and should tolerate some stress, but I would probably leave some dirt around the rootball
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>>2248539
Maybe you have your own varieties selected for your area, I doubt e.g. Russian ones will work too well, so I'd rather go for something local
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>>2248625
Thank you for the help, hopefully it can recover. Here's a picture from the 9th of september for reference.
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>>2248627
september 15
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>>2248639
September 30
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>>2248639
>>2248640
>meth, not even once
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>>2248472
>>2248576
they seems to do fine on mediterranean climate so I guess they would do fine in my home city in the subtropical climate at 700m above the sea.
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>>2248626
Usually local varieties are pretty shit.
This is a vast country and the main form of transport of good is by trucks on bumpy roads so our strawberries were selected to be pretty but resist some rough time resulting in hard strawberries with little taste. If I can grow my own I don't have to worry about transport so soft and juicy strawberries are preferable.
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>>2248793
This is a contrast with countries like Japan where the consumer have more money justifying to protect delicate strawberries with nice flavor and texture one by one.
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>>2248787
They thrive in it. My town grows a shitload of strawberries.
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>>2248805
Country?
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>>2248787
they'll do fine as long as you've got decent winters.

we produce a fuck ton of strawberries here in the netherlands, and our winters have been weak as fuck for the past 5+ years (barely gets below -5C anymore) so you don't need strong winters for good fruit production, you just need them to lay dormant for a while and experience some stress.
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>>2248834
Strange because according to this site alpine strawberries do fine in green houses (so no cold winter for them)

>When choosing promising strawberry houseplant varieties, there are really two major types: June bearing strawberries (producing in — June!), and ever-bearing strawberries (which will fruit two times a year). Some ever-bearing strawberries may even produce berries more than twice a year. A terrific cultivar suitable for growing strawberries inside is Alpine strawberry, which maintains a more clumping habitat rather than ranging — a good thing if you have a space issue.

http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/strawberry/strawberry-plants-indoors.htm
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>>2248858
if they're not getting a cold winter rest they're probably getting a dry winter rest.
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>>2248858
Well stress can be cold or moisture induced, and strawberries have adapted to a wide variety of habitats
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>>2248884
>>2248862
So can we go back to my original question? Where do I buy seeds online without having a huge delivery fee? Ebay do have some good delivery fees but the sellers are questionable. Amazon also have bad sellers but at least you can see people's comments on them.
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>>2248893
I have got no fucking idea. Look towards forums?
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>>2248893
So it's F. vesca you want to grow? I did the variety "Rügen" this year, which is supposed to be everbearing
Got mixed results, while they started pretty well in the moist spring and delivered lots of fruits around June, it was just a bit dry here in Jul-Sep and I guess that's what caused most of my plants to wilt, only those that got "side-watered" close to the tomatoes (which I did have to water anyway) did well throughout and are still flowering and fruiting, but slowly.
Many of the wilted ones died I guess, but since October has been wet so far, a lot are now starting to miraculously re-shoot small green leaves from the base again now
And that's been "dry" by German standards, still 30mm of rain in both July and August as well as 10mm in Sep, and it's not too hot here, all three months averaged around 20°C daily mean. Plus it's a rather heavy clay soil here which is supposed to retain moisture well
So in a true Med climate with even drier and hotter summers (and maybe even faster draining soil), you'll probably have to water twice per day or so, and I don't think other F. vesca cultivars will be THAT different in their water needs than mine. It makes sense though, as they naturally grow in forests here in the wild form, where soil is almost always moist
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>>2248893
>>2248981
To add, I have more than enough seeds left from the original pack which I don't plan on starting again anytime soon so, could mail it you theoretically as it's just €0.90 apparently for a standard letter from here to hue (20g max which I'll stay below), but I dunno how low temp exposure (I guess cargo planes go down to -40°C or so inside) would temper with the seeds, if you have some neophyte legislature that could be troublesome etc etc, finally arranging something like that over 4chan is always kinda shady
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>>2249115

New thread fellas, I'm actually kind of enjoying taking the helm
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>>2248981
>>2249031
I was going to try to plant them on a pot. I planned to use a relatively tall pot on one of those pet water bowls that you use a pet bottle as resevoir so the water level in the base would remain constant and hopefully I can adjust the amount of soil so the top will always have the ideal amount of moisture. Also our climate probably is close to Mediterranean in temperature range but our winters are the drier ones, not the summer.
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>>2245547

Wiggle some rocks under the roots
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