/herp/ Reptile & Amphibian General

regarding a couple questions from end of last thread

>I have a beardie who wants to do nothing but sleep under his hide this past week, is it brumation or should I be calling my vet?

It's kind of early for brumation behaviour. Double check your temperatures. Is beardy still eating?

>how to trap a house gecko

I'm not sure. I guess best bet would be a tupperware container with a small entrance hole cut in it, some soil and plants inside, left in a warm dark area of the house. It won't "trap" the gecko but if you're lucky it may decide to sleep inside. Check during daytime hours and see? Honestly though, geckos are bro-tier house lizard. Cause no trouble, eat your bugs. Your family needs to relax.

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So I got a bigger cage for my uro at petco since it was 40 gal for 60 dollars with feeding hatch lid and now he has another hide and more room to move around


My idea has kind of backfired though I don't think that basking platform m will get to 120 anymore because cage is deeper what do friends?

>>2220511

Higher wattage bulb. Or you could build a taller basking area by stacking some rocks or bricks. Or both.

>>2220469
He is not. A fellow beardie owner suggested I call the vet and get fecal samples done just in case he had a bad worm. The temps are fine. He's lost a little bit of weight and doesn't want to eat.

>>2220518

Hmm. Yeah better get a fecal done and see what you're dealing with.

>>2220521
I'll get him in asap then, thank you.

>>2220516
The wattage bulb is already as high as that dome can handle it's 160 watts

I think toure right I'll just get some bricks or tile and stack em under the platform tomorrow so he can get closer to the bulb

What temp and humidity probes do you guys use in your tanks? Seems most of the units I'm looking at have terrible reviews for humidity unless it's a large, probeless unit.

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>>2220533

temperature i use the probe on my thermostat for hot spot and then tune it according to more accurate measurement from an IR thermometer gun. The temperature guns are really handy. Cost about $15-$20 on Amazon, just don't include 'reptile' in your search as that will give you the reptile branded ones sold at ridiculous mark up.

For hygrometers, again don't specify 'reptile'. Some of them do have probes. It should say in the description if it doesn't appear in the product picture. As long as it is mostly accurate to +/- 5% it's fine for reptiles. I would be more fussy if I was keeping sensitive species but something like a crested gecko or a ball python you don't need to be right on the mark exactly.

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Ok guys my sister got this guy off facebook he had nothing in his tank but grass clippings and a little bowl of water we put terra bedding and some aquarium sand he was fine for a while but then he got this weird thing under his mouth what is it if you can see it good

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>>2220601

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>>2220601
Here is a couple other pictures

>>2220601
Maybe he's rubbing against something?
Put him on some newspaper for a bit and see what happens

Hello, I'm fairly new to owning and caring for lizards. I've been considering picking out a lizard recently. I've been mainly looking at the Fire Skink. What are some good sources of information regarding caring for these guys? Where should I be buying them?

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>>2220634
fire skinks are the most adorable lizards

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my friends asian vine snake would do this sometimes

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sand fish

>>2220511
Why don't you just fill the tank with several inches of substrate? Would give the Uro a chance to dig around and elevates the basking spot.

For the pangea gecko ledges what size is best, the ultimate one or the small one?

What are some consequences to not having the temperature not regulated before the arrival of a pet? Been posting about getting a crested gecko and I've got the place set up except for the ceramic heat emitter and a thermostat I'm gonna buy at the place I buy the gecko. I'd have gotten the lamp+thermo by now but the guy has tough hours and he's far. Would it be bad if I brought home the gecko and those appliances the same day and have the temperatures/humidity adjust while the gecko is in the tank? I hear they're fine with 75 Fahrenheit which is what the house constantly is.

If the house is constantly 75, why do you need the ceramic heater? Just in case it drops in the winter?

>>2220878

Forgot to answer your question... but yes, you'll be ok. Plenty of people buy 100% of the stuff they need at reptile shows and such without doing any research. You've at least got a general idea what you're doing.

>>2220880
Yea it gets pretty chilly in the winter. I was told the heater was to help keep it humid when paired with misting. Is that right?

>>2220881
Th-thanks this is my first reptile and I really wanna do it right.

>>2220791
Whatever you think will fit best in your tank. It doesn't matter to the gecko.

>>2220890
Nope. The CHE will dry out your tank more quickly. If house is mid 70's for the time being you wouldn't have to turn the che on right away anyway. So no worries buying gecko and che at same time.

The che will only be needed when your day time temp is dropping below 70.

>>2220716
I feel like he might dig under it and cause a cave in or something that would be no Bueno

>>2220940
Then put some support under it. Something like a brick.
Stop acting like this is hard.

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>>2220959
This is what I did I hope he likes it

I hope my dresser doesn't collapse down now

>>2220962
Looks nice. Those rocks will heat up during the day and radiate heat during the night. They love that shit.
I personally would put even more substrate in and slope it left to right and put some LED daylight strips over it (5000-7000K) but those are things you can always do later.
It will look really fancy like that though.

>>2221018
CuteKiller/10

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is shale safe for frogs? I read mixed opinions about it in aquariums, but nothing in regards to how amphibians handle it. Assuming it'll be in their water.

>>2221146
You can find out if any rock is safe in two steps.
First put some acid on it and let it stay there, the stronger the better, if there is any foam it's not safe. Next put it in a bucket of water and let it stay in over night, if there is any sort of film on top it's not safe.
If nothing happens both times it's safe.

>>2221192
Hey thanks for this. That's a good test i hadn't ever bothered to look in to.

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40g Breeder tank. What size under tank heater should I get? I assume the large (18x8) is best but it can only fit in one direction and that will end up 1/2 the length of the tank side to size and 3/4 front to back.

>>2221234
whats the width of your tank? if its a 40 breeder it should be 18 inches I'd think

>>2221241
It's the exo terra tank so the bottom has molded plastic feet making it really about 16-17" internal.

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Whats with my girls tail? Shes not mine, but her enclosure was moved to my room recently and now im starting to like her. I looked up some stuff, mostly tail rot, but i couldnt find many pics to compare against her tail.

>>2221278
looks like stuck shed to me

>>2221278
Old skin. Try carefully pulling it off. If that doesn't work bath her in warm water and try again. If THAT doesn't work apply some vaseline, wait a bit, and try again.

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Rate lizard
I still can't think of a proper name

Where can I find information on caring for a fire skink?

>>2221332
internet

>>2221330
2/10
would not lizard

name him niggerfaggot

>>2221330
lizard/10

name him Radar Love

>>2221360
I'll fight you

>>2221368
I never cared for golden earring

>>2221372
I've literally not listened to anything else by golden earring but Radar Love is the perfect driving song

>>2221330
your tank looks pleb as fuck

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My gecko

>>2221392
cute

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"I am king under the mountain!"

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>>2221383
That was a temporary one I set for the photo
I'm still dolling it up. The basic care requirements are filled

>>2221421
its fiiiine, some more vegetation coverage and bam its a pretty nice tank

its an ackie right? I didnt know they had spiny tails like that

>>2221424
Yeah, its a red ackie
I'm buying more plants soon

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>>2221421
>no backwall
>small tank to just barely fulfill the minimum size requirements
If I were to get something as active as a monitor I'd at least try to create an interesting environment for it to interact with.

But I guess effort can't be expected from a tripfag. Just gotta have that lizard to brag, eh?

>>2221431
Its a baby in a 40 gallon breeder tank man
I have a shot ton of black contact paper coming in the mail.
I have 5 reptiles and they all have really well done habitats.
I'm plant shopping tomorrow too.
But really, this 6 inch monitor has 3'x1.5' of space. I plan on upping it once he's older

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>>2221431
>>2221436
Also, pic is my crested gecko enclosure.
Its a 29 gallon

>>2221436
don't listen to that autistic fag

babies in a 40gal is fine long as they don't seem bored climbing at the glass and stuff
not everyone has 10000000 dollars right at the start

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Gonna post this
Enclosure is definitely too small, right?

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And this.
He likes this basking platform

Ordering some plants for my crested gecko's tank. I am wondering, do you guys take the plant out of the container and plant it in the soil or do you just put the container in with the plant.

>>2221866
do you have a proper drainage layer and a substrate that's thick enough for plants to root into?

>>2221920

I have a 1.5 inch drainage layer of zoomed hydroballs and about 1-2 inches (need to spread it out better) of exo terra plantation soil.

>>2221431
This tank looks cool as hell, would you mind giving me the name of those plants? I'd love to do that in my leo tank

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>>2221475
>arboreal species
>tank offers nothing for climbing but two little sticks that aren't even connected together and a plant that looks like it bends down as soon as the gecko would touch it
Thanks for proving my point. You didn't even try creating something appropriate for the animal. The samefag look between the ackie and crested tank is also hilarious, considering that both species live in completely different environments.

But now your tripfagging makes perfect sense. All you want it attention, which is only given to you by all the shitty keepers in this thread who keep their reptiles in even shittier tanks.

Nowhere else would anyone compliment these kind of tanks.

>>2222139
Try grasses like Festuca glauca, Juncus acutus or Helictotrichon sempervirens. They all do well in sunny and warm climate. Or just artificial dune grass.

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Just set this up for a fire skink... I apparently didn't do enough research and found out captive bred fire skinks are incredibly hard to come by. What do

>>2222331
either be patient, get one anyways, or find something else

>>2222331
Also, currently after about 2 hours of being sitting still the enclosure is only about 80 degrees on the "hot side" Will this change over time? Or do I need a different heating method?

>>2221421
>>2221475
Screw more plants it needs some branches. Also glass tank isnt ideal for any monitor specie..
And that crestie tank.. I have no idea what was your point because everyone knows cresties need vertical tank and this isnt one and again no background for climbing.
If you spend more time reading and less time arguing your lizards would thank you.
Makes me sad when i see people that have the room but no idea what to do.
This anon >>2222221 sums it up nicely.

>>2222546
The tank is just excessively long. Its 20 inches tall.

>>2222221
Every one of those plants will hold its weight, aside from the tiny jade

>>2222055
You can plant in that. Id make it deeper though.

>>2222565
Im gonna ad that the crested enclosure is still growing in. The pothos and wandering jew is going to be draped across everything

>>2220681
oooh what are these pretty guys?

>>2222785
emerald tree skink

Hey. I have a question. Would be nice if you could give me some advice.
I really, really want a cute little lizard as a pet but I have a grasshopper phobia and everything which looks kinda smilar to it. I still haven't look deeply enough into reptiles but as far as i read every beginner-friendly lizard seems to eat grasshoppers and alike.
Are there any species which are easy to start up with and which don't eat them? Or should I scrap my dream of a little lizard-bro?

>Price doesn't matter btw. I will take good care of my cute little fellow and take my time to learn more about them before I buy one.

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>>2222881
Does your phobia include crickets? If so you might have a problem.
You're really not going to get around life food with smaller reptiles and there you don't have much choice. Crickets, locusts and roaches are the main food you can give them (though I'd argue against roaches as they contain a lot of fat). Other stuff like mealworms or Zophobas should be fed sparingly as they also contain a lot of fat.

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>>2222881
Crested geckos can live on a repashy only diet. But in that case you should buy an adult, because live food definitely benefits the growth of young ones.

>>2222881
how do you feel about cockroaches and mealworms?

>>2222892
Yes, sadly it does.... I wouldn't have a problem with mice or mealworms. Althoug I wouldn't feel comfortable with roaches around my house I wouldn't have problems with them.
Do you need to fed them living crickets/etc.? I think I could get used to that if I would work hard enough on myself. I read there were foodstations which vibrate to create a sensation for the reptile the "pray" is alive? Are these any good?
>Are there lizards who are naturally scavengers?

and thx giving me a little panic attack with this pic ;w;

>>2222897
That's an adorable little fellow! I will definitely read up more on them!

>>2222905
See >>2222901 I have no problems with mealworms but cockroaches are kinda meh....

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>>2222905
If you wouldn't have a problem with feeding mealworms and such, then a crested gecko like >>2222897 mentioned would work. Feed it mainly special Repashy mix and occasionally mealworms, phoenix worms, etc.

And don't forget to sometimes supplement the food with calcium powder.

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>>2222912
I think I just fell in love with this cutie! Thanks so much /herp/! You will probably hear more from me in the future.

>>2222367

What type of heating are you using? If it's an under tank heater those don't work very well with thick substrates. Ceramic heat emitter is the way i would go for something like your tank.

>>2220962

Good stuff. Also now you've got multiple levels there so uro can choose between a variety of temperatures on the hot end. That is ideal.

>>2222905

Don't use those vibrating dishes. The one time i have seen one used it freaked the hell out of the lizard. Which is the opposite of what you want.

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>>2222917

>>2222994
Two over head dome lights. One 75 Watt basking light and one 50 Watt UVA day light. I'll pick up a ceramic heater later this week. Thanks!

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Anyone want to stab a guess at what's happening to my corn's jaw?

He shed two days ago. Noticed today his left side jaw had a small gap, which in my five years of owning him had never happened before. I grabbed his head, pulled down the space a bit, and saw pic related. It looks brown/tan. I'm thinking maybe he got a splinter of bedding stuck in his jaw while he shed, or is it rot? The last time he was fed was 2 weeks ago, and most online sources say they didn't notice infections or jaw misalignments until after their snake had eaten.

So I scheduled an appointment with a reptile vet for tomorrow just to be sure.

>>2222221
I'm getting close to the get. Your were a second too early

>>2222917
Good choice, I love these guys too.
Do your research properly. Always read several sources and/or buy a book about them.

Any maybe, just maybe, try buying a box of crickets for it once and feed him/her some. Maybe that'll actually help you, who knows.
And don't overdo it with the worms, they should be handled like a special treat.

Is a 36.3" x 18.8" x 17" tank big enough for an adult blue tongue skink?

>>2223136
no

>>2223136
yes, but thats the minimum size it should have
bigger is better

>>2223152
the minimum size for a BTS is more like 47 x 20 x 16 and that's still rather small

>>2223153
since when? every care sheet I've seen says a 36x18 is the minimum size, but recommends you go larger

>>2223154
That's because americans are generally retarded at keeping pets so you'll see such bad minimum sizes for everything. Bettas in 2 Gals, etc.

Europeans caresheets are much more sensible and at least try to recommend sizes appropriate for such a big lizard.

>>2222912
That image makes it look like supers and meals are the same size

>>2223018

Oh, okay. The 75w basking light is the problem. Just replace that with a higher wattage one. The ceramic emitter is a good choice if you need the temps above room temperature 24/7. So that depends on the species you eventually have living in there.

>>2223038

Hmm... it kind of looks like mouth rot but not sure. Curious to see what vet says.

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I did it /an/ this is my babby

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>>2223173
Closer shot of babby.

>>2223173
not bad anon, I'd get another branch or two and put them on the right side there
he seems a little limited in climbing options

>>2223176
I was thinking the same thing. Definitely will do.

>>2223153
>>2223154
>>2223152
What are some other options in terms of lizards? I want something that is tame, active, and easy to keep.

New to the hobby. What are the generally most recommended "easy" lizards to start with?

>>2223189
Bearded Dragon, Blue tongue skink, Any Tegu.

>>2223190
>any tegu
dont lie to the man now

>>2223187
tame and active are hard to have together
but thats where beardies and bts come in honestly. smaller lizards are often skittish, barring some leos or steppe runners

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He looks so happy

>>2223189
>any tegu
Stop that

>>2223189
Leapord geko

>>2223177

Moar foliage also. Lots more.

>>2223194

Best easy herp that meets both tame and active criteria is a corn snake. In most other cases you have to choose one or the other. eg, active but not tame; or tame but not very active.

>>2223252
thats true, there are a number of snakes that fall into both
but that anon specified a lizard

I have a spare 10 gallon leader tank just stored up. It's just a regular tank, nothing special. I'm thinking in the future using that as a longtail grass lizard habitat. I like them and I think they're pretty neat with that semi-prehensile tail.

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>>2223255

>anon specified a lizard

Yeah I know. Snek is just legless lizard, uh, right but not a 'legless lizard' legless lizard. The POINT is, I think beginner herp keeps overlook snakes sometimes. So i recommend snake.

SNAKE

Hey /herp/ there's a reptile show in my area this weekend and I'm thinking of going. I've never been to one, somewhat new to the hobby.

Right now I just have a planted vivarium with some hissing cockroaches. Any chance there will be vendors selling plants and things like isopods and springtails for bioactive soil?

I'd love to buy some stuff for a new vivarium and get a crested gecko but my budget is very tight. I hope I won't be tempted. Basicially what should I expect? I might look for a millipede depending on how I think it will do with my roaches too.

>>2223250
Will do

>>2223386
If it's not marketed as exclusively for reptiles you'll be able to get anything there, from books to food to soil to animals.

>I hope I won't be tempted.
HAAH WAAW
Only way to leave those shows without spending way more than you should is taking only the cash you want to spend with you.

>>2223461
If you put in real plants rinse them thoroughly. They're full of pesticides and shit when they come from the store.

And like the others said, more shit to climb on. I like putting in those big bamboo branches vertically.

I'd give him a little 35W halogen spotlight too, and put a big dark rock below it. They might be nocturnal but they do like the warmth that the rock will give off at night.

Also if you find that it gets too dry quickly put in some moss, it really helps keep the humidity up.

>>2223651
Awesome, thanks for the advice

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>>2223038
>>2223169
Yep, just a silly snooter and got some shed stuck in between his teeth. Vet cleaned it out just fine and said it was a healthy snake otherwise.

Also had snek gendered, I adopted "him" from a friend and we've always assumed based on the physique that it was male. Well, apparently the vet said either it has the smallest hemipenes or my snek is actually female. So that was interesting!

>>2223789
Whats your snakes name?

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>>2223807
Sizzle

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Hey /an/, this is my pet pixie frog's tank setup, is there anything I should do or change to it to benefit my frog?

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>>2223831
Pic related is froggo, mid swallow

I am somewhat new to the world of snakes but my girlfriend has a western hognose and her dad breeds them. Currently she only has a het. toffee/het. axanthic female and I am interested in a getting a male to breed with her and her dad's snakes. I do like snakes and reptiles but I am extremely interested in the genetics behind it. My question is how should I go about determining what morph to get (besides what I like)? Is there a book or website that I can look at in order to determine the frequencies of morphs in a certain cross?

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>>2223834

>>2223639
Yeah I'm only bringing cash to prevent that from happening.

There's a variety of vendors on the website, I'm just hoping they bring the things I'm interested in. There's a vendor selling millipedes too now that I look.

What do you guys think? Bumblebee millipedes or Florida Ivory? Anyone here with experience? How is breeding them?

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>>2223874

>>2223910
Ew

>>2223831

Nope, that looks pretty awesome.

>>2223874
Thank you anon, my sides are gone

>>2223876
illegally imported african giant millipedes or go home

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>>2223962
You mean the African Giant Black? Their website says they breed them, but they aren't currently available? I'm in California btw.

Anyways I just want a baby's first millipede, nothing too fancy or expensive incase it dies on me.

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Not uromastyx, but Spiderman

>>2224008
yep super illegal to own here in cali
really sad too because i want one real bad

>>2224068
how?

>>2224082
he's propping himself up on his tail on that log

I dunno why he was trying to climb the glass or something

ok so whats the best way to heat up a rat?
putting it directly in warm water removes the scent and sometimes my snake wont eat it
and putting in a bag and then in warm water takes too damn long

>>2224082
>>2224192

He also has a grip on the silicone in the corner of the tank.

>>2224256
I am a new snek keeper but I get my rat from the store in the afternoon and keep it in a sealed bag left in a big thing of warm water to thaw for a few hours. Then at night when I feed it's fully thawed, I leave it to dry a little bit on a paper towel (when it thaws there is condensation in the bag that gets the rat wet) then I use my sneks heat lamp to heat it up just a little bit near its tank, works every time

>>2224256
also yes it does take a long time but I don't think anything bad is really going to happen if you leave it out for a while just plan ahead I usually let mine thaw around 4 and feed around 9

>>2224286
I was actually previously using her heat lamp to help warm it up, but goddamn it makes her real feisty and I'd rather that not become a habit

>>2224256
Best way to thaw them out is putting them in the fridge overnight and then bringing them to temp with some warm water.

Also, if it's taking a few hours to thaw you're doing something wrong. Even in cold water it should take less than an hour. I can have rats for almost all my snakes (11) thawed and fed to the snakes within that hour. Granted nobody gives me any troubles of course. Usually they're all fed on different days because everybody has different feeding schedules, but I've had to feed everybody together a few times.

I've very quickly cooked and burst rats thawing them under heat lamps, even within a few minutes, so I just use warm water nowadays. Way too easy to overheat or burn with a heat lamp.

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Picked up 3 of these little buddies at a local reptile expo. Love me some thumbnails. I know they're R. imitator but I forgot the locale. Does anyone know? I think they're Tarapoto but I'm not sure.

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Pssst, you kids tryna buy some herps?

>>2224769
Something about this fat fuck fitting perfectly in that tree stump is oddly amusing to me.

I set up my leopard gecko tank and can't get temps right. Won't have leopard gecko until next week so got time to fix things.

The ambient temp in the tank is room temp. I can get the tile directly on top of the heat pad to stay steady at 90 but the hide on top of the tile is only 85. Everything not directly touching the heat pad is at 72 (room temp). Care sheets all say it should be 80 throughout with a hot point at 90 for digestion.

So what do I do? Just set up a ceramic heat lamp to keep the tank in the upper 70 and low 80s? Or is just the heat pad enough and the gecko will just hang out by the pad most of the time?

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Hi /herp/, I am working on my Crested Gecko tank, added drainage layer and got some ghostwood. Is this enough climbing space for a crested gecko?

>>2224794

Attach foamcore board to the back and sides of your tank to insulate it. That will get your ambient up to mid 70's, which is where it should be. It doesn't have to be 80 throughout. It should be 90 inside the warm side hide.

>>2224849

That's fine for branches/vines but there needs to be plants (fake or real) all around them. Try to find some fake plants that have nice large broad leaves. Geckos really like the big wide leaves.

>>2224691

Cool. Dart frog locale is way outside my wheelhouse so not sure on your question.

>>2224945

I ordered some pothos and a few other safe species.the vines are really droopy if any weight gets on them, I am not sure if that is a big deal.

>>2224958

Nah, those vines hold up well under gecko climbing and hopping. The plants will keep them more or less in place. Geckos do redecorate, in a way, by roaming around all over the place and pushing leaves out of the way so it always changes slightly once they're in there.

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friends i require assistance
new to sneks and retardedly bought a 75 gal glass tank and it doesn't hold heat worth a shit
got a 7~ food male hypo columbian red tail and he's a p cool dude just needing some kind of plastic tank so that it'll hold heat and humidity better
please wipe my baby retard ass and tell me about where you guys typically look for tanks, and any sick insider tips on large snake boys

>>2225045
Get a pvc cage or build a cage out of various materials.
As a side note does anyone else feel weird buying an already adult animal?
All my herps i got as juveniles

>>2225045
You can either cover three sides of your glass tank in something isulating like cardboard or foam
or you can go to like walmart or something and buy the biggest sort of see through plastic bin they have

Then I would suggest you order a proper pvc cage, because you probably want that cool dude on display

>>2225061
>>2225054
i found some sick pvc cages and they look awesome, thanks for the sweet help and in the meme time I will wait for a paycheck and order dem cages

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Doo-dee doo, just going to the toilet.

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Oh hi, sorry, didn't realise this toilet was already occupied.

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Hey, back off buddy, I'll knock next time, I said I'm sorry.

>>2225097
>>2225096
>>2225095
This in straya?

>>2225054
Only reason I wouldn't get adults are because they're already X years old and you'd be with them for less time then raising one as a juvenile. (Unless you get a turtle which lives for practically fucking forever)

Though at least adults generally have a set diets by then so you'd know exactly what to feed them and are already at max size when getting an enclosure, so that's an appeal to adults at least

>>2225100
of course it is look the toilet paper roll is backwards

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Added more plants and things to climb on. Is this better?

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>>2225305

>>2224691
damn didn't know dart frogs were available as pets. these guys are super cute

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>>2224769

>>2225305
yes very good

Could I put a baby ball python in an adult cage provided there's plenty of hides and covers?

>>2225431

Yes. Recommend when you first bring it home that you tape paper to the outside of the tank to limit the amount of movement python sees in the room. This will help the acclimation process to the new digs. Bear in mind that baby BPs will have grown up in a rack system up to this point so bigger space and clear glass can be a lot of change all at once for them. Remove a part of the paper every few days until it's gone.

>>2225431
Yeah. Make sure there's ground cover so it can move between them comfortably without feeling exposed

>>2225305
Neat.
I just noticed this now but is it next to a window? That could become a problem, especially in winter when the sun is low. Enclosures heat up really quick in direct sunlight, you better keep those blinds closed or move it.

>>2225319
U srs? They're one of the best selling and most bred type of exotic pet out there. Every expo is literally covered with these fuckers.

>>2225502
The blinds are closed almost all the time but I'll keep an eye on the temperature. So far the hottest it gets is 76F.

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What kind of snake is this

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Thoughts on my new turtle tub?
Ezra seems happy.
100g stock tank, up from a 30g long aquarium. Good heater, 240gallons of filtration, UVA bulb, UVB bulb, heat bulb, and an airstone for a bit more agitation. I'm thinking of getting him a friend, either another cooter of some flavor (but a similar size), or maybe a/some fish. Provided I give them some hidey-holes, could a good size pleco or a small group of golden algae eaters do well?

I know algae eaters are fast, but plecos don't take shit. Thoughts?

>>2225649
My google-fu leads me to wagler's pit viper.
He looks so happy

>>2225694
What is that around the heater?

Setup looks pretty good.
I wouldn't suggest too much on another turtle. While you can probably fit another male in there, they might get testy with each other one day while a female with potentially grow huge to the point of another upgrade. It's not to say it won't work, just mainly have to be on guard if comes a time needed for separation and whether you wanna play it safe or not.

As for fish, it really is just hit and miss with any individual turtle as no two will have the same results. Plecos have decent chances with having hidey holes and such, but remember despite being big and armored, they can still get rekt for being sedentary, and turtles have no trouble in maiming larger fish with their claws. Algae eaters too have decent survival chances being fast as shit but that mainly depends if your turtle is capable of hunting them effectively. Not to mention if they do survive, know that one day, the turtle can turn on them randomly even after co existing peacefully.

Only advice I can give for fish is just experiment and not to get attached to them as they may end up being sacrificed, so cheaper fish are the way to go.

I housed like 20 feeder guppies, 10 zebra danios, and 2 goldfish with my adult female RES. Both goldfish and all the guppies got rekt except for a single guppy fry that one managed to produce that grew to adulthood while all danios are still alive. It's been 3 months and the 11 fish are still there.

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>>2225752
It is a stainless mesh cage, weighted with glass beads and the ends are capped with egg crate. Heavy enough that he can't move it, and allows enough water to flow through that it heats effectively. It's a regular aquarium heater, not the 'turtle specific' one, so I didn't want to run the risk of him burning himself.

LFS has algae eaters on sale for a buck a piece, so I'll get a half dozen and see what happens. Any recommendations on hides? I was going to sink some various sizes of PVC pipe, maybe zip tie some rocks on for ballast.

Bonus pic of full setup.

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Does anybody know what's going on with this baby corn snake? It has this crusty dried skin around both of its eyes. It seems like it's actually part of the skin, not just leftover shed.

>>2226090
I'm on mobile, so te pic is small, but it looks like it may be an infection. When was the last shed?

hey /herp/ I got around to moving my 2 snakes on to rats a few weeks ago and my ball took it like a lard ass but my carpet python is being a little faggot who is to good for rats. Are there any tricks I might be unaware of? Ive tried scenting, braining, pinching the skin off nose, bait and switching all to no avail.
I was always told they are notorious for being hard to switch but I kinda pushed it out of mind

>>2220658
Caiman lizards are some of the most gorgeous animals, but I imagine that they'd be a huge pain to care for

>>2226133
You've got a mouser. I only did it once with a carpet python and took me a while. But basically if they'll well fed they won't be up for new experiences, so let it without food for 3 or 4 weeks, specially if he just shed, and then rub like there's no tomorrow the mouse and the rat. Not the typical scenting you see on youtube of just touching the animal, rub it with force all over the body.

If that does not work you can buy reall really small mouse compared to the snake size. You offer them and while they're swallowing you put the rat inside the mouth and it will swallow it.

Sometimes though, it came with time. An animal that refused everything but mice (even having been fed on pinkie rats as hatchling), once reached a bigger size (between one and two years) just accepted the rat with no complaining and without any tricks. I experienced the same with birds on the same animal.

>>2226133
no, you're fucked.

>>2220390
im looking to get a reptile either Chameleon or Geeko never owned one & i work fulltime hours 9-6 5 days a week and gym 2x a week will it be ok on its own for that long or do they need constant supervision

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Hey, I have a one year old leopard gecko that's been having trouble removing shedding from under her eyes. Her temp and humidity are always within the proper range, but she always ends up with skin in her eyes. It's causing her to lose weight because she can't see her food. What do? Pic related.

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>>2222221
Don't mind me, just a random visitor trying to locate >>2222222

>>2226237
reptiles do not need any supervision so long as your tank is set up correctly
I would advise against the chameleon though, as they can require some annoying micromanagement that you might not be available for all the time

>>2226255

Put a moist hide in the tank in the middle or warm side. Tupperware container with moistened paper towels works fine.

>>2226284
thanks yea i know how difficult chameleons can be would love one but i know they are definitely not a starter pet

>>2226302
I have that. Maybe more of it? Maybe thicker as well.

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Just got a bunch of free stuff. 36.3" x 18.8" x 17" tank, heat pad and lights. Its a decent sized tank.. what can I keep in this?

>>2226394
beardies
medium sized terrestrial snakes
a group of anoles/tree frogs or other small herps that can be in a community
leopard gecko
could maybe get away with a small uromastyx

>>2226394
Also a massive bag of Fir bark and forest floor mix.

>>2226359

Okay move the moist hide to the warmest part of the tank if it isn't already. Gecko is more likely to use it if it's on the warm side.

>>2225934
Pvc pipes work as well as terracotta flower pots. You could also add some real or fake plants in there to have some extra places to run into

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I am still working on my crested gecko tank and I added some plants. Would it be good to add some cork tubes or more wood?

>>2226771
geckos like smooth surfaces, bamboo works, or big leaved plants

and if you put Pothos in get some much bigger ones and drape them all over those branches, its gonna take forever to grow like that

Update- 6" pleco and 6 small Siamese algae eaters. 0 losses in 24 hours, one of the Siamese has decided to suck Ezra's shell. I feel like he's tempting fate.

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What's the best expo in the US? I'm sick of all 3-4 of my local shows, it's just a small room fucking packed with ball python morphs. I want to see and buy some actually interesting stuff, shit at least some boas or something. I'd love to go to a show with GTP, retics, liasis, locality boas, anything more than a fuckload of ball morphs. I'd be willing to make a trip out of it, maybe NARBC or something.

Any suggestions?

>>2226902

Reptile show by me had 3 tables, 1 table of some kind of home made ring crap that wasn't even reptile related.

It was all full of bearded dragons and a couple snakes. Told one guy I was looking for geckos and he was pestering me to buy hissing cockroaches that I told him I had no interest in. I don't ever want to go to a small town reptile show again.

>>2226902
Where do you live?

>>2226964
Northern VA. Richmond show, Manassas show are both shit these days. Baltimore show is somewhat decent, haven't been in a while and it's coming up this weekend I think so I'll check it out. Never been to the Havre de Grace or DC shows, anyone know if they are any good?

>>2226902
I just went to my first show today in Randolph, MA. I noticed almost every table had ball pythons, and tons of cresties. There was a couple tables with a bunch of redtails, a couple with tarantulas, and even one with axolotls, but the balls and cresties ruled apparently. I was looking for rainbow boas and ackies and only saw two rainbows in the whole show and apparently missed the one table with a couple ackies.

>>2226979
I manages to get the only ackie at the last show I went to

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>>2226902
I've gone to the Atlanta shows a few times, ball pythons only took up maybe 40% of the floor, lots of boas and a few retics. Various colubrids and a few rare species of lizard and snake. Don't know how far you're looking to travel, that's just the only one I've gone to other than the local one by me.

>>2226979
Why not try buying some rainbows online? You'll find a lot more higher quality rainbows from breeders on the other side of the country. I've got all 4 of my rainbows from Rainbows-R-Us, but Ike Lightner on FB and Living Gems Reptiles are the main 2 I see other than RRU. Dave at RRU does a lot of morphs, Ike and LGR mostly do color enhancement projects.

>>2227185
Honestly I was just window shopping. I went there looking to see what I could get an exo-terra 18x18x24 for, and I've been thinking of buying a first snake and really like rainbows. I work at a pet store and we have a young rainbow I've absolutely fallen in love with because he's so tame.

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>>2227227
A tank definitely wouldn't work for a rainbow, it's nearly impossible to keep their required humidity up in one, and that floor dimension is too small. You might be able to keep a yearling at most in one like that. If you were wanting something for that Exo Terra, maybe look into a small gecko or something? Like a crested or a gargoyle.

I'm not sure how much research you've done, but rainbows can be a tricky first snake if you don't do enough research beforehand or test run an enclosure if you don't have experience maintaining high humidity. Babies quickly dessicate under 85%, and long term exposure to humidity under 80% for adults results in chronic dehydration and can affect their organs. Below 75% for too long can kill them quickly. High temperatures also can result in neurological damage or death, so during the summer they can be tricky to keep cool depending on where you live.

Unfortunately hygrometers don't really work in their set ups, because the high humidity destroys them. I've had digital hygrometer displays blow out, and they tend to peg out around 80-85%, so it can be a little harder to track their humidity if you aren't used to it.

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>>2221330
Named mine after my grandma, Edna.

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>>2223158
Fuck you Muslim

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>>2227241

>>2226902
I thought you guys in America had loads of giant shows bigger than we do in Europe.

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>>2226979
I was there too, they let me handle an ackie but they only had two and I doubt they were for sale. The axolotl people seemed hoplessly depressed but one group had two large burmese pythons. I also saw a good amount of red tailed boas and handled a juvenile. The Randolph show was great, any good shows in New England area?

>>2227322
We also have a lot of small ones

So my beardie is 9" and he started shedding a few days ago

I have her in an 18 gallon terrarium, should I buy a bigger tank?

>>2227513
Yes.

>>2227322
Europe actually has among the biggest expos after Asia, they just don't get much press anymore. America has many more local clubs and shows though as distances between major cities are much greater than in Europe.

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Rate boa

>>2227605
australian/10

>>2227605
Boring as fuck/10

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>>2227513
What's wrong with people, no common sense. One the FB monitor lizard forums you see some of the dumbest people, I mean would you keep a dog in a small kennel within a hot garage?

>>2227663

so i SHOULD go for a 40 gallon tank?

>>2227665
Ideally you should have just started with the 40breeder or larger
even a 40breeder can be kinda small for a fully grown beardie

>>2227633
I don't understand

>>2227660
You're boring. Apologize

>>2227665
Build a large 6x2x3 enclosure, tanks are for fish.

>>2227670
your picture is upsidedown

>>2227233
Oh the tank wasn't for the boa but my crestie, I would do a tub for the snake

>>2227671
Tank is a generalized term for any clear enclosure nowadays.
I think a 40 breeder (with proper ventilation holes) is fine for a smaller female or a lazier dragon.

>>2227678
Youre upside down

>>2227669
>>2227671

eh, thanks for the advice, theres 3 reptile stores and i'll see the best one tomorrow, thanks

>>2227233
I also know they can be tricky, I've been doing my research and really the closest I have to experience keeping a reptile humid I'd my crestie. I've read how they can be tricky, and I know a ball python would be easier, I just love this damn snake.

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this tank is for 2 garters

>>2227740

That huge as water bowl makes me happy. I hate it when I see people keep garters with little water dishes like they're leopard geckos or something. No no, they need a little swimming pool in there. This is good stuff.

>>2227740
The pumpkin is a nice touch

What do you feed them?

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>buy tank, lights, gallons of substrate, decor ext
>total is 250 us sheckle
>want fire skink
>didn't do research and find out there are no captive bred fire skinks readily available
>bought tons of shit specifically for fire skink
>oopz.png
>what do?(Already set everything up, so refund isn't an option.)

>>2227809
find some other moderately sized semi-tropical lizard or snake?
Buy one thats wild caught anyways?

>>2227809
just buy one from backwaterreptiles?

>>2227795
Thank you, I put a lot of thought into giving these two a fulfilling captive life. They absolutely love the pool
Im happy it wasnt overlooked lmfao I feed them nightcrawlers and frozen silversides. They're both great eaters and sometimes theyre straight viscous

>>2227809
Get wild caught ones then become the breeder

How bad is overhang for a tank?
I got a short bookshelf I'm going to be moving into my room and I wanted to put a 20 long on it
but a 20 long is typically 30x13 and the shelf is 28x12

>>2220395
they arent skinks

>>2228712
retard

>>2228638
I've had an overhang for the longest time and I've never come close to knocking my tank off.

Tank: 48 x 12.5
Shelf 44 x 12

Very be very mindful that the tank isn't entirely stable.

Supposed to get my crested gecko tomorrow morning and its food and some bamboo for its cage in the afternoon. Is it a big deal to add stuff to the tank the same day I get my crestie?

>>2228719
>/an/ - Animals & Nature

>>2228788

Nah.

>>2228832
claiming that blue tongue skinks aren't skinks doesn't deserve any other answer

>>2226834
Down to 3 algae eaters. Going to pick up some more.

>>2228869
Don't mean to piggyback but anon with the female RES. After 3 months of peace, she decided to casually munch on one of the danios.
Now they all avoid her like the plague.

>>2228884
>casually

I've never seen a turtle do anything with an air of seriousness. Always so laid back... we could learn from them.
Also having a shell to retreat into would be nice.

>>2228903
It's one thing when you see them swim and chase after a fish, actively hunting. But during a little tank maintenance, I spooked one of the fish, went darting, and she just grabbed it in the most half assed bite I've ever seen.

It was ridiculous

>go to check on bp since he went into shed 3 days ago
>enclosure is torn up to hell
>water bowl somehow underneath hide with snake in it
>shed skin and shit underneath paper towels that are underneath waterbowl that he moved halfway onto heatingpad that is under hide

I have pictures but its looking into a filth filled portal to hell

I bought a culture of springtails, how do i add them to my terrarium?

Do I pour it in with the coal or do i use a strainer?

>>2229338
I usually just mix it in.
Springtails float so you can use water to filter them out,

>>2229338

Dump the whole culture in.

>>2229423

I bought it from joshs frogs and they put them in some smelly coal, that won't hurt my plants or gecko?

Well /herp/?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11324031

>>2229425

Nope. Just mix in with your existing substrate.

>>2220511
>40 gallons for $60
Holy shit you got lucky, mine was $125

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Is my new pastel a cute?

>>2229560
A cute.
Top tier python

>>2229557
I got one a month ago for 40 with a heat pad and a lid with a feeding hatch.

>>2229562
Well then, my Petco Jewed the fuck out of me it seems...

>>2229569

I hate buying stuff from petco, I just go there to see some stuff in person and pull my phone out and use amazon to buy the it much cheaper. A lot if there herps are overpriced or not in the best shape.

>>2229571
Don't buy herps, just tank supplies and mostly snake food more than anything

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>>2229569
I buy most of my stuff used.
I got a free crested gecko and tiny ass enclosure earlier.
Pic related. His name is Rainman because it was rainy as all hell today when I got him

First time snake owner, had lizards of all stripes as a kid, currently someone who juggles difficult aquariums here.

I'm thinking of buying a Brazilian Rainbow Boa. I can absolutely manage the environmental demands (thinking about keeping it in a little indoor greenhouse thats already 90% humidity and 75 at night to 85 during the day). Anything else I should be concerned about?

I bought a textured mat for the bottom of my reptile enclosure so I had something that looked nice and was also easy to clean.

The problem is the bottom of it isn't flat so it's making poor contact with the glass and the UTH doesn't seem to be heating the pad evenly.

I'm thinking if I put a thin layer of eco earth down and then put the mat on top, this may help more evenly distribute the heat.

Once the eco earth dries, it won't impact humidity any will it? This is a leopard gecko tank so getting the humidity below 50% is a pain without the eco earth, I want to make sure it go up further.

>>2229606
they're pretty docile. I think they're not good first snakes because of just how any major any small mistake in husbandry can be.
Look for a colombian rainbow boa if you're set on a rainbow boa. They're a bit more forgiving. Still delicate, but more forgiving in regards to temperature and humidity..

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>>2229560

>>2229614
What kinds of small mistakes are you thinking about? I've gotten pretty good at following directions and keeping to measurements after years of keeping Discus. To give you an idea of how seriously I take my livestock, I've got a reverse osmosis filter going into a 300 gallon reserve tank in my basement right now. Its kept at a constant 83 degrees, 6.0 PH, and 2.5 dKH.

Or is this not so much a matter of being anal about parameters and husbandry but about knowing exactly what to look for in a given moment?

When you say "delicate," what does that mean in the snake world?

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to gather info.

>>2229621
Rainbow boas dehydrate really quickly and are extremely temperature sensitive. I've heard of them desiccating and dying in a day from not being humid enough.
Those hyper humid conditions welcome a ton of unwanted fungus growth you'll need to be on the lookout for,
I think you just need experience managing vivariums in general first, Hypomelanistic boa constrictors are pretty striking too, and are a lot better for beginners. Especially smaller localities.

>>2229630
So, if I'm understanding you correctly, the big challenge of rainbow boas is balancing consistent temp, high humidity, and controlling for mold and fungus? I've been running a little indoor greenhouse in an old 70 gallon aquarium thats pretty much stable at the conditions I read are vital for rainbows and haven't seen much evidence of mold or fungus so long as I keep up on cleaning. Am I likely missing something?

>>2229633
You're not accounting for waste being added to the ecosystem
You seem to have it down pretty well but it's really not a good choice for a first snake.
I dont think a 70 gallon aquarium is tall enough for a rainbow boa either.

>>2229635
How tall would be a good idea do you think? I'm not opposed to buying a new vivarium if it would be in an animal's best interests.

As for waste, are we talking about one incident per feeding? That seems pretty manageable, even if you're changing out 50% of the substrate each time. Seems like I'm missing something, what is it?

>>2229644
You've got the right idea.
The height should be a bare minimum of 2 feet. Get a specialized reptile enclosure that's sealed to prevent it from decaying.
Something about 4x2x2 is good for an adult.

Just make sure you've got it set up and can keep it consistent for at least a month before getting your snake.

>>2229650
I was actually thinking I wanted to keep it up and running through a winter just to make sure I have it down right. Maybe I'll just do the build myself if its an odd size, that'd allow me to drill for venting the way I wanted to anyway.

I know they're generally pretty docile. How are they going to be for handling outside if you're in a warm/humid climate (summers here can run into the 90s and are steady between 70% and 90% humidity)? Like if I hang out in my backyard for a couple hours will it have a problem?

>>2229657
You shouldn't keep any reptile out for a few hours.
Reptiles, with few exceptions, dont ever enjoy handling. They tolerate it at best. No snake has a social drive of any kind. Handling is stressful to them.

>>2229573

Yes, chain pet stores are best for dry stock only. And often they're more expensive than online for that too. Like the Petland (Canada) stores in my city. I dunno who the hell is keeping them in business or how they are able to maintain their prices at minimum 30% mark up over all of their competitors on almost everything they stock in reptile aisle. Sales never, also.

>>2229611
This is one scenario where i think sand would be helpful. Sand transfers heat very well and would provide a flexible surface for your mat to rest on.

>>2229693
Branded reptile supplies in general are just insanely marked up.
My ceramic heat emitters are all for chickens. Its the exact same thing for a a third of the price or a branded one.

>>2229606
If the ambients are 85F, that's way too hot, the snake could overheat and die. The ambient should not be over 75-80F, and the hot spot 79-83F. The nighttime temps are fine, but those day time temps are way too high. Temps of 85F+ for an extended period of time can do serious damage to them, and if the ambients are 85F they won't really be able to escape it.

>>2229621
BRBs will regurge or refuse food if their humidity falls too low, and 85F+ causes neurological damage and death. They also are a lot more prone to regurge issues, they seem extremely common from what I've seen, so too big of prey should be heavily avoided. Some can take it but a lot can't.

>>2229657
The humidity is good but the temperatures would quickly cause them to dry out or overheat. I would not take BRB outside whatsoever if the temps are 85F+. If the humidity is 80-90% you can keep them out like a normal snake (about 30 minutes), but at only 70% they'll dry out within a few minutes, so I wouldn't have them out more than 5-10 minutes. Trust me, I know this from personal experience with my 3, their scales will start to dry out and their skin get wrinkly that quickly, no joke. Even if I bring them out inside my home where it's cooler, multiple handling sessions of more than 10-15 mins eventually results in some signs of dehydration. It eventually goes away after a week or so of minimal handling.

>>2229744
>CHE at store is $20-$30
>same one online its $15+
>non herp specific is $8
its crazy

>>2230028
Heat pads too. You can buy them on ebay for 5 dollars when they cost a ton in stores for branded ones.

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>>2229448
This should have more votes

>http://www.strawpoll.me/11324031

>>2229744
any cheap alternatives for UVB tubes?

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Do tadpoles eat during metamorphosis? Every guide I read said not to feed them at this stage in their development but is this really true for all species? These guys ate ravenously and grew quickly (I've had them about a month and I found them in a puddle that was only a day old). Their legs started to sprout almost a week ago and they're still pooping so maybe they're eating the roots of their plants? I want to make sure I do everything possible to avoid them eating one another so they all survive. I plan to release them back into the relative wilderness of my neighborhood as soon as they seem like they're ready to leave the water

>>2230158
Not really. Full spectrum lights in general are pricey

>>2230192
well, any that are the cheapest? Local stores are like $30 for a 24"

>>2230199
Honestly its worth it. You could look online for the same bulbs for cheaper

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Are blood pythons supposed to be this big

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>>2230184
you must be the OP from the other thread, yeah I'd say if they start to really show development and slow down in they're movement stop feeding them a bit. Just feed them now and if they don't immediately chase it like a homeless guy for a free meal then start slowing down on that.

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>>2230184
Make sure they have a gradual and easy slope or piece of plant material in order to climb out on to land once they're developed.

>>2230254
yeah it's me again. I wouldn't have made the other thread if I'd noticed this one. I managed to save another dozen from a street puddle today, and just in time as there was less than an inch of water left when I got there, I had to use a plastic dixie cup with lipstick on it lying in the street to scoop them up
I'm keeping them separate so when the older ones inevitably turn carnivorous they won't eat the babies

>>2230213
Probably not, 2 jumbo rats every 2-3 weeks is way too much food for that snake. I don't see many blood owners feeding even a single jumbo rat, I'd say it should be getting a single large or jumbo rat every 2-4 weeks. Everyone always says blood pythons have even slower metabolisms than boa constrictors, so I may even go 4-8 weeks. I feed my baby boas every 10-14 days until they're 2, then 3 weeks until they're 3, and then go to 4-6 weeks, extending according to the individual. I also fast boas for 90 days that are 2.5-3+ years, and plan on feeding my almost 1.5 year olds half as often over this winter.

So if they do have even slower metabolisms than boas, I honestly don't understand why weekly and 14 day schedules are so common. Would explain why obesity is so common in blood pythons, though, that paired with people overestimating the girth that's healthy for them.

I honestly feel the vast majority of snakes shouldn't be fed weekly, and probably not even every other week. Obesity/fatter liver disease is a top, if not THE top, killer of captive snakes. Smaller meals less often should be the standard, but obesity unfortunately isn't discussed as often, and with breeders being the main source of information in the hobby, the spread of such information can be inhibited as many are preoccupied with producing as many babies as possible as quickly as possible.

How long does it take crested geckos to get acclimated, it is the second day and my gecko still hasn't moved and is sitting at the top corner of the tank.

>>2230331

Your gecko most likely did move during the night and came back to that spot. They tend to have prefered sleeping spots that they always use.

Double check humidity and temperatures but otherwise leave gecko be.

>>2230213

No, that snake is obese.


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