Why are German Shepards bred to be crippled?

>>2178722
Because that's what the people want

>>2178723
are people fucking retarded? it's sad seeing the poor things with frog legs

>>2178725
You mean the people that breed their dogs for looks and to enter them in shows and register them with the AKC?

Yes, those people are retarded

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>>2178725
Most of the people who get this are quite vapid, or are only interested in the "fashion" aspect of the animal. They do it so they can tell their cunt friends about how much "purer" their dogs are. I had a G Shep that I got from a shelter to a park with a few others and their owners came up to talk about my dogs "differences" while their poor pets limped around.

Mine limped a lot towards the end but at least he was pain free most of his life.

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>>2178722
>he doesn't know one dog is crouching while the other is standing

look at this poor man.
he was bred to stand only three feet tall!
so sad.

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>>2178787
Pshh what?
Show dogs actually walk like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBq6gM0sI7A

>>2178790

Putting aside what anatomical disasters those two are for a moment, it's shocking that these two are winning with such atrocious leash manners. They're yanking and having to be yanked (at one point the female is pulled off her feet), not paying any sort of attention to what they're being asked, and just in general acting terribly.

This is a breed that's supposed to be prized for its versatility and especially trainability. I can't believe this sort of display wins trophies.

>>2178790
so sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=57Sp6ZK_-90

>>2178722
A E S T H E T I C S

https://youtu.be/1BQwzqo7BHg

>>2178722

What's up with the GSD hate recently? Can we just get back to ragging on pitbulls?

>>2179577
It's not even hate for the breed but hate for trendy show breeders who fucking purposefully breed dogs with bad genetics to win shows. I love gsd but these roach back variant are disgusting. I'm just glad the akc isn't as bad as the Germans are yet.

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Is it true you cant tell if a dog has hip dysplasia just by looking? My doggos(12 months old GSD) hips are definitely set weird, the right one is definitely "larger" or I can feel the outside of it more and it's further back than the left. But she sits pretty normally, runs, sprints, jumps up tall embankments, jump on us, onto the counter, runs up stairs, chases bugs etc. There doesn't seem to be any indication of pain and she sleeps on her left as much as her right... We're gonna go see a vet but I'm just worried. Not because I paid a breeder 1000+ for the dog or some retarded shit but I just want her to live a good life with lots of runs and fun agility stuff

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>>2179832

There are visual signs of hip dysplasia, but think of it a bit like having a cough. It could indicate something as serious as lung cancer, but it could also be just be a irritant in the throat. The same way as a dog side sitting like the picture could indicate bad hips, but it could also just be a preference.

The only way to be certain is an x-ray.

>>2178722
>Shepard
Why do people do this?

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>>2179863
Do what?

Also, pic relate, my german shepard, Wrex.

>>2179868
>>2179863
IT'S SHEPHERD YOU FUCKING IDIOT

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>>2179880

>>2178787
you dip
have you ever seen a GSD bred for shows?

Most purebreds are like that.
I owned a Dalmatian, did some research, and considered myself lucky that mine was only partially blind.

>>2179929
Deaf, not blind.

>>2179844
Yeah that's what I figured. Guess I just gotta be worried for the next week.

>>2178722
Fashion.

It's the same reasoning behind the existence of pugs, some people just happen to be autistic.

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>>2179832
You really do need an x-ray to be sure, though lazy sitting and bunny-hopping are both indicators that something may be wrong. I would wait until the growth plates have settled for certain, and get them done when the dog is between 18 months and 2 years. Have them x-ray her elbows at the same time, because elbow dysplasia is just as common in GSDs.

Now, the thing about hip dysplasia is that it isn't a death sentence.

If you do get a diagnosis of dysplasia, you should start dietary supplementation straight away. Omega 3, glucosamine, chondroitin, green-lipped mussel, are all dietary supplements that can help with joint health. As the dog ages, you will probably need to look into pain medication. Thankfully, these days there are options other than giving a dose of Rimadyl every day. There are some very good long-lasting pain shots that you can get, and the dog only needs to have one every three months. Rimadyl or some other NSAID may become necessary eventually.

Massage and hydrotherapy can help dysplastic dogs.

Additionally, it is very important that a dysplasitc dog is not overweight, and that you ensure the dog has daily exercise, both of which will help the dog maintains mobility into old age.

My GSD has bilateral hip dysplasia and severe bilateral elbow dysplasia with well-developed osteoarthritis by 18 months. He's 8 years old and going strong. Way back when we got his diagnosis, I never thought he'd live as long as he has. The joint specialist was very clear: he didn't have a good leg to stand on.

We were given advice to limit exercise to always on leash, always calm, no chasing balls or playing with other dogs. But I've found that the exact opposite of that advice has been most beneficial. Letting him run and play has built muscle and he's strong and fit enough to jump five feet verticle and run 4 miles alongside my bike.

>>2180238
Also, orthopedic dog beds actually do work. Raised beds are a good option, too.

>>2180238
Thanks for the response dude. I make sure we go exercise every morning, jogging/walking and some fetch. Should I add anything to her food for the time being?

>>2180303
Chondroitin, omega 3, GLM and glucosamine are all fine to give to a dog without joint problems. If you're using human supplements, which are much cheaper than the veterinary supplement options, then just go with the lowest recommended dose for an adult. There is such a thing as too much of a supplement, so don't overdo it.

For example, my dog is on human glucosamine. Adult dose is 1-3 capsules daily. He gets one.

>>2180340
Actually, I meant to add that I give the same supplement to my other dog, who has been x-rayed and came back with perfect hips, elbows and stifles. So it doesn't hurt.

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>>2179844
Ah now I'm concerned for my lab ... He sits like that but I thought he was just being goofy ... His rear's gate is a little wide too for his frame. He walks like he always has to take a shit.
But hopefully it's like you said it's just his preference to walk and sit.

>mfw I have hip dysplasia
>oh I didn't know people get that!

Yes I know I'm subhuman don't rub it in

frog legs are harder for humans to grab. one of the easist ways to take out an attack dog is pulling the legs

>>2180340
Awesome, appreciate it.

>>2180424
That's a pitbull, anon.

>>2180424
Euthanize that pit bull scumbag

>>2178797

Yeah I have noticed that, show dogs have barely any training, they seem to only be trained at the one show aspect that they have entered for.

>>2180425
I feel your pain, fellow subhuman.
I have a bone growth disorder, featuring
A gnarly hunchback
Thick ass bones
Constant bone spurs in my feet
And bones that are hard to break but take 3x longer to heal once broken.
I look so weird that I tell people grandaddy was a rock troll.

>>2180747
Post pics

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>>2180677
Lol he sure is

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>>2178722
It looks like it's hind legs are bred for sprinting, like a silverback gorilla

>>2180747
We can only hope science gets us new bodies in our lifetime

>>2179844
My dog doesn't sit on his butt at all.
Then again he's really old and has arthritis so that probably has something to do with it.

>>2181280

Most likely, yes. What's also known as a 'lazy sit' is very characteristic of arthritis because it's meant to relieve pain in the back half's joints.

>>2178722
>buy GSD from reputable local breeder
>she makes me promise I'll take him to shows
>do obedience training, exercise, etc.
>he's a happy and good doggo, no hip dysplasia
>but he stands like bottom pic
>take him to his first show, super excited
>breeder is one of the judges
>takes one look at my dog and freaks the fuck out
"What the fuck have you done to my dog, anon? This thing is a disgrace to my name, it can't even stand properly, get this piece of shit dog out of here, I never want to see it again."

Fucking cunt. GSD breeders are fucking insane.

>>2180747
Do you have Paget's disease of bone by any chance? Shit fucking sucks, man. There was a kid at my school who died because his skull grew so thick, it literally crushed his brain.

>>2181469
I'm pretty sure that they're supposed to be trained to stand with their legs back and hips down when they're shown, anon. I could be wrong, but I think that's the stance they're meant to be in when the judges come over.

>>2181474
>Show dog GSDs
>being trained
Yeah ok

>>2181474
I should have clarified, I did get him to stand with his legs in the proper position, but he simply couldn't go down that low because his hips weren't built like that.

Basically the judge shat on the dog for being healthy.

>>2181482
Well fuck her then.

>>2181470
Jesus christ, that's an awful way to go for a kid.

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>>2178722
dude, honestly, who wouldn't want a doggo like this?

>>2181496
That's disgusting. They run like their bones are gelatinous

>>2178722
Purity meme.

>>2181469
I don't believe that for one second.
If the breeder had been serious about you showing the dog she would have insisted on handling classes (yes, those are a thing).

>>2180723
The show dogs I have known have all done dog sports as well. My own Rat Terrier is a conformation champion, a weight pull champion and she has two legs towards an agility title. All done by the breeder.

>>2182155

It depends on the breed, really. In some clubs it's expected that the dog will compete in another discipline, to the point of being this side of mandatory. In others a second line of competition is all but unheard of, and if it does exist it's generally something unathletic like obedience trials.

>>2180747
Hey at least you don't have that congenital illness where your body replaces damage tissue with bone.

>>2178722
because inbred people breed them

>>2181469
I think you were supposed to stack the
dog if it had a normal non-deformed body. Some german sheperds are stacked for show, some are not.