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The plant general: Bamboo edition
I am become bamboo, the destroyer of gardens.

Welcome to /plant/, the resident plant general thread. This is a magical place where anons buy plant seeds from suspicious dealers in China, where next level veganism starts gaining a foot hold and where I still haven't gotten my Sarracenia Rosea.

/Plant/ is for the discussion of plants (obviously). Horticulturists, hobbyists and botanists welcome! Questions about plants? Want to show off your two inch dick-I mean plant? Maybe you want to start growing? Well come on over to /plant/!

Introducing a new caresheet with every thread
This thread: Drosera Capensis
>partial sun to full sun
>greater than 50% humidity for dew formation
>water retaining medium, I recommend 1:1 mix of perlite and sphagnum moss
>keep plants in about 1/2 inch of standing distilled water
>water with dH2O only
>no dormancy required
>after 1-2 years, wonder why all of your carnivorous plants have D. Capensis growing in them

Old thread: >>2120267
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I fucking hate bamboo.
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I can't decide whether I want to rip these plants out of my garden because they're seeding themselves all over the place or keep them.
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>>2127723
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They wanted $12, I talked them down to $10.
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>>2127723
Could you just keep like one main population and destroy the rest?
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>>2127734
I actually managed to kill mine. I miss it.
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>>2127736
... how?
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>>2127735
there's only 3 big clumps of them.

the seeds are appearing in my bonsai pots rather than the main garden.
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>>2127794
huh. Sounds like the relationship CP growers have with Drosera Capensis
"nice i never knew I planted 10 cape sundews in my nepenthes veitchii"
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>>2127795
it's always better than having Sagina in my pots.

I need to install a greenhouse so I can grow more alpines.
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>>2127804
Nice strawberries. I transplanted some out of a garden box for my friend, forgot to cut some of the leaves off to reduce transpiration, and they died :'(
I'm a terrible grower
Also greenhouse for alpines? Where do you live? USDA 9?
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Captcha wants me to select all palm trees.
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>>2127827
>Also greenhouse for alpines?
it's to keep them dry during the winter rather than warm, plants like saxifraga tend to rot away during wet winters.

8A, it's not that cold here, but it's extremely wet.
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>>2127804
I have that exact same plant pot with strawberries.
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>>2127804
There aren't many places nicer than a professional alpine greenhouse during summer, the combo of pleasant cool breeze, high light intensity and diminutive dainty flowers is pure /comfy/. And that's coming from someone who only gives a shit about Nepenthes and tacky weird stuff like Amorphophallus.
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>>2127855
how old is yours?
>>2127857
why during the summer? most alpines have flowers in the spring.
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>>2127862
Well I went to a couple of Japanese botanical gardens last summer and just loved the cool refuge and aesthetics of the alpine houses from the nasty sweaty weather outside. I definitely remember some plants in bloom, but like I said I don't know shit about alpines. I'm mainly in it for the Neps.
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>>2127877

wow that's elaborate
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What do I do with excess plants?

I have, likely, over 100 Aloe Vera plants and over a hundred Iris bulbs.

I've run out of room for this stuff.
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>>2127881
Sell them or give them away.
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>>2127881
sell them on your local farmer's market or something amongst those lines.

I clear out my collection every 2 years or so.
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>>2127881

I give them away. Doesn't make me any money, but they go as fast as I want them to. And if it makes someone else happy, that's fantastic.
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>>2127877
That's fucking goals right there
>>2127881
I had maybe 15 nepenthes ventratas which I grew from cuttings. Just give some away or sell them. I gave some of the neps away to my bio professor and he loved them
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>>2127887
>That's fucking goals right there

Pretty much.
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>>2127757
It didn't take to snow very well. I thought it was impossible, too.
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Going back to parents this summer, going to transplant my baby blue fan palm. Stole it as a little seedling from the side of a road, and now it's around 3 feet across and about 5 feet tall. How much would you guys suppose something like that would weigh?
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Bought some venus fly traps seeds online from alie and I'm not sure if I got venus fly traps... they are growing about 2 inches tall, and have 2 leafs at the top. Don't know if I'm doing something wrong I have everything proper down to water and temps.
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>>2128135
Post a picture.
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>>2128137
I can get a better one if needed
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>>2128138
Those are the Cotyledon, the first leaves to sprout from the seed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotyledon

They'll start to look like Venus Fly Traps soon.
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>>2127721
I enjoy bamboo.
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>>2128173
Those are not flytraps. At all. That guy has been scammed.
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>>2128173
venus fly traps don't form prominent cotyledons.
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>hugelkultur in february
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>>2128286
>now
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Delphiniums are finally starting to get big.

I just hope they'll be the same color as the parent plant, but probably not.
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>>2128138
kek bro, you got scammed. VFTs make short stubby cotyledons, not long spindly growth.
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>>2128198
Sure it's pretty and all to look at, and pandas are kinda cute when they're munching on it, but it's shit when you have it in your backyard or anywhere near your home, really.
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>>2128656
even Fallopia japonica is nice to look at as long as it's not in your garden.
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>>2128661
or Convolvulus sepium.

they're great until you realize they're so invasive that if they're found in agricultural ground it permanently degrades the value.
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what's the most invasive plant in your area /an/?
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>>2128663

Kudzu
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Ampelodesmos mauritanica
Not even goats or sheep will eat that thing
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>>2128699
Wait no, I meant Cortaderia selloana

It's late
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>>2128702
Gardeners have a lot to answer for.
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>>2128665
That's radical
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>>2128719
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kudzu_in_the_United_States

>>2128663
Probably bamboo. Also have snake berries covering half my backyard as well.
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>>2128719

Yeah it's kind of beautiful in it's own horrifying way. Sort of a green grey goo for our area.
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is /plant/ ded
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>>2128857
>50 posts
>15 unique IPs
Well, this is one of the slow boards. Why don't you try to start some discussion like asking what everyone's dream plant is?
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http://www.joshsfrogs.com/day-gecko-bioactive-vivarium-kit-20g.html

I know this isn't /herp/ general, but I need a bit of help with a bioactive for a ball python.

I have an Exo Terra Medium Low (60 x 45 x 30 cm / 24โ€ x 18โ€ x 12โ€ (WxDxH)) terrarium, and a $50 gift card to this place. Balls have a humidity requirement of 50%-60 (55% - 60% as an ideal)

Is that selection of plants, plus the soil and false bottom and all that, a good place for a newbie to start?

My room gets indirect sunlight no problem, but I'm considering buying artificial lights for this.
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>>2128702
I have to be careful with those at work because they're not very hardy, if you prune them too early they die.
>>2128857
/an/ is mostly dogs and toxoplasmosis.

/out/ is mostly farming, hardly anyone has decorative plants there.
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>>2128936
>They're not very hardy
Wut? They have colonized all of our mountains

Anyway this is what is left of the original division of my S.Flava. I have 3 smaller ones and I think only one of them will make it.
Thanks, fungi.
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>>2128663
Norway maple.
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>>2129068
That's why you should treat with funigicide after you finish dividing.
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>>2129118
I divided it because it was dying from the fungi infection, to try to save some of it...
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>>2129068
>They have colonized all of our mountains
then your climate is warmer than mine, they barely survive the winter here.

if you prune them before the winter they have zero chance of surviving it.
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>>2128287
You're beautiful.
Everything beautiful
I want to live in your garden
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>>2128287
What's that vine you have growing on your wall called?
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>>2129307
Hedera helix.

it looks a lot 'fresher' than your average Hedera because I trimmed it back a lot.
>>2129305
it's not that great.

I fixed the settings of my camera, it's looking pretty good so far.
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>>2129308
Seems like I have nothing but invasive species and weeds in my backyard.
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>>2129313
spray roundup on it, then keep it bare for a year before you start planting.

if anything you sprayed survived, spray it again.

glyphosate doesn't fuck up the soil unlike most herbicides.
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/plant/fags, what's the sickest shit you've seen in the wild? I haven't been to many planty places but Pinguicula growing directly out of volcanic sulphur vents in Landmannalaugar, Iceland was an interesting sight, and strangler figs in the Daintree rainforest, Queensland were nice too. Photo stolen, I was only a little kid and it was pre-cameraphone days.
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>>2129408
any plant surviving in urban areas is sick.
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>>2129321
please no roundup
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>>2129438

because monsanto?
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>>2129438
everything anti roundup so far as been a load of eco-bullshit.
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Tfw legit want to garden with bugguy and be best bros

Here's my favorite plant.
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>>2129469
I'm glad you didn't go for the low hanging fruit and pick something that looked like a penis. Also, gardening is a fun hobby, I'm mostly restricted to houseplants until I get my own place, though.
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I want to get a plant. Indoor only, nothing that requires a great deal of direct sunlight as all my windows have radiators directly below them and I assume that's no bueno for most plants.

What do? Interested in bonzai, but mostly because of Karate Kid. All suggestions considered.
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>tfw you find out a new, variegated type of plant you want
>tfw it's expensive as fuck

None of you would have any cuttings of Pink Princess Philodendron, or any variegated pothos, would you?
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>>2129508

Sansevieria is inexpensive and puts up with a lot of crap. That'd be high on my list for a default indoor plant.

I really wouldn't recommend bonsai as a first thing if you're worried about the plant doing well. If you aren't worried, it's a pretty good learning experience watching it die versus Sansevieria, which will do very well but isn't always especially interesting.
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>>2129508
Bonsai are strictly temperate, outdoor plants (well, the famous, 'real' bonsai are) but there are some shitty succulent bonsai-ish shrubs that can be grown indoors. I guess they just aren't the same thing though.
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>>2129551
I've had a plant before that did very well, but I was able to put that one directly in a window. No idea what it was though. Sort of similar to yours, but with wavy, branched leaves
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>>2129508
I have a daylily. They're so hardy, they don't die even when they're killed.
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>>2129585
i can fucks with this. its on the shortlist, thanks f@m
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>>2129588
Mine are white, though I haven't seen them bloom in a while now.
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>>2129585
You have a day lily that flowers indoors?
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>>2129629
Yeah. I was told they were daylilies anyway. It's outside now, though, I haven't seen it flower in like two years now.
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>>2129408
I went to norcal and saw the wild cobra lilies. Pretty lit senpai
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>>2128665
is that real holy fuck
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>>2129442
no, I don't have anything against monsanto
But trust my, Glyphosate is nothing to be messed with

if you use it, don't spray it near your vegetables and try not to breath it in please

Then you should be fine

>>2129450
You are pretty much right, most stuff they show is just bullshit
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>>2129531
I have a variegated type of Pothos
but I don't exactly know which one, because I "stole" the cutting
It has now roots and is ready to be potted
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>>2129830
the thing about it causing cancer was dismissed a few weeks ago.
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Do you think this flytrap is worthy of trying to register it as a cultivar?
>Traps are very red
>Long, pink and wide teeth
>Very big (but not enough to be a giant variety)
>Has a red line on the reverse side of the trap

Also it's very resilient and grows fast.
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Do you guys have some experience with moss walls?
I do like their aesthetics and I made some selfmade version with an old picture frame and some moss I collected from the woods.
Now I don't know if it is a good idea to have them in the house because eventual fungal growth on the frame.
Do you think it is safe to hang them indoors?
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>>2130013
That looks so awesome
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>>2130013
Oh, but after reading a bit, it appears this is not live moss
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>>2129990
Negative.
Dionea muscipula "Big Mouth" is pretty much identical to your plant
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>>2130013
Get wood, cover it in silicone, then sand, then make a frame.

I mean orchid keepers do a sort of basket thing.
Like they call them orchid plaques.

You can still do it.
Buty if you chose a thin aquarium, you could add co2 to make it crazy.

Seriously, grow a little moss terrarium with an air pump, and the outflow of some elementary school yeast+sugar poison wine. (don't drink it)

But mosses all evolved to grow in increased co2 conditions. It's why they usually hug the ground.
That wall idea, being that tall, is not really that great. But if you put orchids or tillandsias at the top, then you'd have something cool.
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>>2129990
no, trying to register plants with minor changes like that often ends up in law-suits from bigger companies with more money and time than you.
>>2130013
>Do you think it is safe to hang them indoors?
no, spores are carcinogens.

pretty much all 'indoor' plants that produce spores are hybridized so that they're infertile, like the boston fern.
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>>2130046
I thought the same thing
looks like "Big Mouth", except more yellow

>>2129990
I would like a clone of your plant, it's awesome
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>>2130013

Probably should only do it outside though, since moss spores, and you need to have good humidity (like pacific northwest)
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Perhaps. Still don't think it's all that special.
>>2129990
Where did you get this plant?
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>>2130093
first part of reply was meant for>>2130080
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>>2130084
the buttermilk thing is a myth.

it's just used as 'glue' anything that's sticky and organic will work.
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>>2130084
>>2130069
I see I'll scratch the indoor mosswall then.

>>2130098
>it's just used as 'glue' anything that's sticky and organic will work.
What else for example? Something starch like for example?
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>>2130093
It was a present from an online shop, for buying 2 Akai Ryu. If I'm not mistaken it was labelled as G14 x Dentate

>>2130080
>>2130069
>>2130052

True, I forgot about the Big Mouth variety.

Well, whatever, it's still better than some shit like Wacky traps or Biohazard.

A pic from last year, October I think, I posted it here and got accused of feeding it the gecko. PS: I didn't
It's not as colorful because I had a bit less of sunlight at the time.
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>>2130118
honey, creme fraiche, you can probably use semen if you try hard enough.
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if my Nasturtium stays black I'm going to register it under the name 'ebonic plague'
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does anyone of you know what's the name of this Canna cultivar?

There was apparently no nametag on it.
And I've never seen a Canna with that kind of color to the flowers
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>>2130154
probably some kind of canna x generalis.

that's about as close as you'll get without nametag.
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>>2130144
Randy Marsh, is that you?
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>>2130157
using creme fraiche for cooking is normal in western europe.
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>>2130158
yes it is
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>>2130361
I hate it when people use gravel for alpines, it looks like shit and I don't understand it.
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>>2130392

Gravel in general looks like shit.

>put fancy fucking white gravel down as a path
>literally a week later covered in dirt, weeds start coming up, mold/fungus if its a wet area.
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>>2130415
you won't have weeds for about 6 months with a good landscaping fabric underneath the gravel.

after that it only gets worse, it's eventually going to cost more maintenance than just keeping some soil clear.

gravel is an insult to usable space if you ask me, just like huge lawns are.
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>open bag of potting soil
>mushroom

Pretty neat, thought I'd share a picture.
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>>2130477
miracle grow a shit
but then again I'm a CP grower
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>>2130013
>>2130026
>>2130033
>>2130052
>>2130069
im butthurt about these posts. that mosswall is tight but i'm going to pass on cancer. any non-sporous mosses this could work with? or maybe some other kind of plant?

pls no bully, i know shit all about plants but im rdy to lrn sempai
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>>2130517
>mosswall is tight but i'm going to pass on cancer.

I tried to get source articles on the horrible cancer from moss/ferns and saw a lot of talk about bracken and not much else. So very curious about about the details on spores and cancer.
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>>2130520
im also interested. i'm only basing that comment on the above posts from poeple that likely know more than i do.

then again, as i learned on /fit/ each board seems to attract the people that know the least about their particular subjects...
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So I've got about $30 in Amazon credit and you guys are starting to convince me on these Nepenthes and Drosera, both of which seem to be available on the website.

What is overwintering them like? I live in Zone 7.
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>>2130541
>amazon
>carnivorous plants
You pain me dear boy
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>>2130617
What's the problem?
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>>2130392
I use the gravel to fill up the holes between the Rocks, so when the Plants get bigger, you won't see the shitty gravel anymore, as they even cover parts of the stone afterwards
It's pretty much the same for many alpines

But you are right, the gravel doesn't look good
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>>2130517
>non-porous mosses

I don't think there are a whole lot, no one ever really bothered to cultivate moss.
>>2130520
there isn't a whole lot of information on the subject.

I know spores are considered particulate matter though, which is known to cause cancer.
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>>2130651
There are a lot of good, reputable dealers for carnivorous plants. Buying from random sellers on amazon is like going to a walmart to get a vft when you live next to california carnivores
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I have a ghost plant
It's grown a lot since I got it, started out as two small rosettes. I was worried it wasn't growing for a while, but then it rained for a like a week and suddenly they exploded.
I cut some off every so often to propagate a new one

>captcha: select all grass
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>>2130700
wow nice thumbnail me
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>>2130670
Have any favorite dealers?
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>>2130713
depends, where are you from?
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Welp, another division lost to fungi
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>>2130778
Only two left alive. But they are growing and the leaves don't come out just by pulling, so I think they will survive.
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Sarracenia x Hybrid C
I think it is (purpurea x rubra) x rosea
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>>2128663
it's probably that.
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>>2130713
I use predatory plants or petflytrap. Native exotics and CA carnivores are p good too but native exotics is very limited in its variety and CA carnivores just seems a bit more expensive. Also they tend to carry less nepenthes species and more temperate plants
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what's wrong with my flava?
It is producing some bent pitchers.
The last few years, the pitchers were allways straight.
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>>2128663
Brazilian Pepper
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>>2130814
maybe the few pitchers of the growing season come out fucked. That happens with my neps sometimes. Or maybe a big humidity drop
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>>2130814
Flava are retarded, unless it stops growing, which would be a fungus or it keeps doing it, in that case it could be parasites, I wouldn't worry.
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anyone else ever fantasize about burying a few chunks of running bamboo root in the lawn of someone you hate?
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>>2130843
No. I have bamboo in my backyard and would not wish this hell on anyone. I think someone planted it as a border between his property and the neighbors or something. Guy behind us cut down the bamboo on his side of the property, and my dad is planning to clear ours out soon, but you have to dig up the roots to truly get rid of bamboo and I don't think he's willing to go that far yet. I mean, it's been there for like 20+ years so you kinda get used to it.
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>>2130843
I keep a bag of A. podagraria seeds just incase.

works better than bamboo, and they don't suspect a thing.
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r8 my lawn.
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>>2130882
Tiny/10
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>>2130884
large lawns are an insult to garden space.

>wall update.
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>>2130885
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>>2130882
5/10. Lawns look boring until they get long enough to need mowing.
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>>2130882
Looks comfy, but I bet you don't appreciate it. It's like when your grandma spent all that money on a living room set and then put plastic over it and didn't let you sit there.
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>>2130906
why would I need to appreciate grass.
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>>2130916
>he has no loved ones to enjoy a nice picnic, game of catch, or a lie down with

Sorry senpai, I didn't know. You'll get no more sass from me.
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>>2130882
Nice lawn. Very thick. What kind of beer are you drinking?
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>>2130927
>letting infidels trample your grass.
what is wrong with you?
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>>2130941
radler, it's too early for regular beer and I still have to clean the grass edging in the alley next to my house.

there's still some weeds in my lawn, mostly Prunella which isn't all that ugly, I got rid of the daisys and dandelions though.
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>>2130945
Grass is made to be run on and trampled. It's grass, not some fancy shmancy work of art.
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>>2130963
I bet your lawn looks like this.
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>>2130963
Crisp, lush, pristine grass is pretty fucking sexy, to be fair.
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>>2130976
Actually yeah. It's just grass.

>>2130981
Not really.
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>>2130995
>yeah. It's just grass.
explain why you're in this thread if it's 'just grass'

if you can't even handle a lawn you might as well stick to plastic bonsai trees.
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>>2130996
I wasn't aware that everyone in this thread had to love each and every plant equally and indiscriminately, or have a huge outdoor garden. I'll leave, then.
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>>2130999
if you're trying to stir up an argument about lawns you're expected to care about them.

your position is the complete opposite of that, there's no reason to talk about lawns if you do not care for them.

'wow who cares it's supposed to be used' is something people with old shoes and dirty clothing say.
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>>2130999

GOOD! COME BACK WHEN YOU OWN A BOTANICAL GARDEN!

LOOKS LIKE WE GOT RID OF THE RIFF-RAFF GUYS! POST SEXY BRACTS!
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>>2131003
You are assuming that a pristine lawn is the same as a healthy lawn. Imagine the difference between a pristine, stiff, unused baseball mitt and one that is well cared for but also well used. How now brown cow?
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>>2131042
>You are assuming that a pristine lawn is the same as a healthy lawn
it is.

> Imagine the difference

it's a class difference, one is first a class stock item the other is junk to anyone but yourself.

it's equivalent to going to /fa/ and complain about brand new clothes.
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>>2131046
>false equivalencies

K
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>>2131052
>compares grass to baseball
>complains about false equivalencies.
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>>2131054
>baseball
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I'm fairly new to plants and I was wondering if you guys would recommend a stake or tiny trellis for my indoor 4 o'clock? It has really taken off since I potted it.
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>>2131296

If you want cheap stakes, I like using bamboo bbq skewers. But they aren't super tall. If you search "pot trellis" they get taller and range from $10 and up.

If that's a Mirabilis jalapa, the ones that I've seen haven't been trellised, but they also had thicker stems.
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pls no fighting my nepenthes are getting scared
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>>2131314
I saw a docu about nepenthes on the television today, apparently there's species that feed off decaying leaves rather than corpses.
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>>2131320
found the species, Nepenthes ampullaria.

they're cute.
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>>2131327
That one on the top almost looks like it has someone trying to hide behind it.
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>>2131320
N. ampullaria, forms mats of cute pitchers to catch dead leaves cause it's too pussy to focus on catching bugs. It's pleasant enough and there are some sick colour forms, but it's a bitch to grow without very high heat and humidity.
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>>2131327
Oh cool, it's a Weepinbell nest.
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>>2131331
Well, Weepinbells are based off of pitcher plants.
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>>2130813
Thank you, I will check them out.

Not sure what to spend this $30 Amazon credit on. Was hoping to buy plants with it.
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>>2131333
Maybe not actual plants, but stuff to care for them like pots n shit.
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>>2131327
You should try growing them if you want to start cultivating nepenthes. It's a super easy to grow species. It just gets crazy big
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>>2131329
Really? Mine are kept around 80F and 70% RH and do fine
>>2131336
buy some supplies for later. Things like moss, perlite and other materials for your plants can be readily bought, and you don't have to worry about getting something overpriced on a nursery website
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>>2131333
For beginner plants, I recommend Nepenthes x Lady Luck. Those are the things I 'rescued' from a Lowes. Common beginner plants like x Ventrata can get scary big. Dionaea is a cunt if you can't grow them outdoors, Sarracenia are cunts if you live somewhere warm and can't give them the temperature drops they need to trigger dormancy, and Drosera, specifically capensis is a nice beginner plant, but be ready to find little seedlings growing out of the cracks in your walls
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>>2131445
Pings are nice too, but can have crazy dormancy periods, and don't touch cephs, helis or darlingtonia until you get accustomed to growing CPs. Untricularia are just boring in my opinion.
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>>2131329
I could get an N. ampullaria 'red' for a relatively cheap price
should I go for it?

Also would be able to get a N. naga
does anyone have experience with this species?
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>>2131441
Well my conditions are highland (ultrahighland in winter) so unfortunately amps aren't an option for me. Night temps above ~55F are far too hot by my standards...
>>2131568
If you can keep it warm and humid I guess you should go for it. I managed to germinate a couple of N. naga last year, but they didn't last long - I was a bit of a noob, and from what I've heard they're generally a bit fussy. Not sure they'd be compatible with ampullaria either.
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Could you guys redpill me on the situation toward GMOs and Monsanto ?
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>>2131687
There's no evidence that GMO's are harmful to people. They're fine.

Monsanto is criticized because they won a case that allows them the patent the plants that they genetically modify. This gives them extraordinary power over the farmers that use their crop, and allows them to sue farmers that use it without permission. They've done morally questionable things involving lawsuits/etc against farmers in the past which is their biggest criticism. Stuff like sneaking onto farms to take pea plants and test them to see if they are Monsanto plants or not. Farmers need to use GMO crops to compete which puts them at the mercy of Monsanto, which owns the plant even though the farmer is growing it.
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>>2128663
Probably Japanese knotweed and assorted (Sakhalin and bastard)
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Can anyone ID this one, so I can tell if it's a weed that should be removed?
It seems to be a biennial, grew much differently in the first year than it does now.
Unfortunately no flowers yet for easier identification
West Europe 8a (last winter was borderline 8b/9a though), also doesn't have to be a native, it's in a spot where bird food remains sometimes land, if that helps
(1/3) what it looks like now, about 1.20m in height
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>>2131709
(2/3) close up on the tips of the shoots
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>>2131710
(3/3) Previous year's growth back in winter (didn't die back), unfortunately I have no better pic
As you can see, just leaves shooting out of the ground stemless
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Is this the cutest plant that exists?
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>>2131692
Thanks m8
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>>2131692
The whole GURT/'terminator seeds' thing is enough to make people just blanket-oppose GMOs though - if Monsanto propose immoral and incredibly greedy tactics like that to effectively scam farmers for eternity, then people will have a shitfit and simply not want anything to do with it.
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>>2131672
Thanks, m8
I already have some Nepenthes, but only the common noob hybrids.

But after seeing that even my Cephalotus grows extremely well for me, I thougt I might try something more difficult now.

What about N. jacquelineae?
Would that be a better choice than naga?

In terms of being compatible:
It shouldn't be a problem to put use a seperate Terrarium for it
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Nepenthes x ventrata almost flowering.
Maybe I'll be able to hybridize it with Rebecca Soper on one or two years.
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My sarracenia x courtii has arrived. Now I wait 5 years and it will be an adult.
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Young locust tree growing fine and healthy.
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Weird hybrid and potential prey
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>>2131758
>locust tree
Wait no, this is a carob tree.
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Does this look too big for my body?
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>>2131847
that's pretty normal in grafted plants.
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>>2131858
>Humor is lost on the dutch
I honestly know nothing about it. I cut down a scotch pine, and then it popped up. I can.tell you that it is highly unlikely anybody planted it within the last ten years.
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>>2131749
N. jacq is seemingly a little easier than naga, I still have a couple dozen seedlings surviving and my 2 rosette plants are firing up for summer (quite slow growers though). If you can achieve long-term cool nights for it in a terrarium it should do fine.
>>2131755
noice, looks a lot less retarded than the last one

Might as well shill my own dudes, pic related is N. tenuis and flava uppers chillin' this morning.
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>>2131866
I've seen a lot of weird shit pop up in the last few years.

today I saw ulmus hollandica wredei seedlings, it's a grafted plant so I have no idea how that happened.

can't be root suckers either, it's like 80 metres away from the mother plant.
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>>2131881
There was other rose bushes on the property, but they were more bushy with much smaller flowers. Once the scotch pine was gone it flooded the area with eastern sun and this big bright pink rose just popped up. It's gotten bigger in the last 4 years, but its still pretty small.
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>>2131718
No.Nepenthes Ampullaria is
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>>2131878
Nice. How did you fit the vines indoors?
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>>2131892
>but they were more bushy with much smaller flowers
roses are grafted, if a different color pops up all of a sudden it's usually just the graft that has sprouted some branches of it's own.

it happens a lot with Dasiphora fruticosa, it's grafted on top of a wild rootstock so if the main plant dies (which is usually some bright non-yellow color) the rootstock produces it's own branches and the flowers will be yellow.

so it's possible that rose is just a piece of rootstock from your old rose bushes, even when it has a different flower.
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>>2131895
They're only just over 2-foot-long and they're staked upright, so it's not too bad. These 2 are comparatively tiny species so there's no bulk to them, it's the massive sprawling shit like truncata and veitchii hybrids I'll have to brace myself for.
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>>2131878
Man, plant threads like this bum me out. I had a few pretty cool nepenthes before leaving for college and all of them dying. Now I'm starting all over again.
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>>2131908
I got a robcantleyi just because they don't climb. Since I live away for college, I had to give instruction about care for my viners like ventrata to my parents. Parents ended up selling them because they didnt want to prune their vines. I think that if I ended up getting a veitchii or something, and parents found out they climb, it'd be gone in a week
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>>2131935
Man that's terrible. :/ My mom is an orchid hobbyist so at least when I left my babies with my parents, they would be able to scrape by
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>>2131935
so, you canยดt have any plants in your dorm?
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>>2131878
>looks a lot less retarded than the last one
Yes but it still looks a bit malformed. Whatever, it's not like Nepenthes have beautiful flowers or something.

I really like your flava man.

And another picture, not mine but a friend's N. x hookeriana, I miss this hybrid but it wouldn't survive with my highlanders.
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>>2131947
Yeah. The biggest loss were a few ((veitchii x maxima) x veitchii) x truncata that I got through pollen trading with a forum member like 4 years ago. It was such a shame there was so much variation in each plant.
>>2131951
Yeah, no plants, pets, or fish per the university living agreement. But I'm getting more plants in anticipation of off campus housing this year.
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>>2131965
oh shit, thatยดs insane
I knew, that you are not allowed to have any pets, but no plants?

I havenยดt even seen this policy at my uni, damn
I need to look into that, becaue Iยดm going soon, but I allways thought I would be able to take my plants with me

Iยดm sweating now
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>>2131970
Its one of those things that I feel isn't really enforced. The bigger issue for me was finding a place bright enough to grow plants well. Another issue is that supplemental lighting isn't always possible, depending on roommates.
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>>2131945
Is robacantleyi a hard plant to grow? Really want to get one
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I have a sudden urge to grab an indoor plant, so there is something living in my room.

It is inarguably a low-light room, however. There will be no direct sunlight at all due to where my room is in the house.

Is there a plant that will survive in those conditions?

I'd get a pic but I'm using a potato phone until my regular one gets fixed.
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>>2132073
>Is there a plant that will survive in those conditions?

There are lots of plants that will survive in those conditions.
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>>2131959
Flowers certainly aren't all that attractive... and female ones can smell a bit nasty too (one of my ventricosa x (lowii x veitchii) cutting's suicide flowers smelled like a mix of piss and old people).
>>2132026
My robcantleyi is pretty fucking solid. In winter it got knocked off the windowsill by my cat and fell about 3 feet onto hard flooring, lying there over New Years, and all it did in response was abort a pitcher bud. You might get bored silly by how slow they are though, mine only puts out 4 or 5 leaves a year.
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>>2132073
Consider ivy (Hedera helix), if it's close enough to the windows
Also you can't go wrong with certain room plant fig species, such as Ficus benjamina or F. elastica, they tolerate shade a lot
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>>2132073
My lucky bamboo is like 5 years old and it's still kicking. I recommend one of those.
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>>2132077
>>2132083
>>2132085
Thanks from this humble plant noob.
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>>2132073
Try pothos, impossible to kill. Prefers lower light iirc
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>>2132095
>Impossible to kill
One of mine died last year, and the second one almost didn't make it.
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>>2130151
/Pol/ants for /pol/acks
8/10 would invest
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>>2128225
>>2128229
>>2128636
>>2128138
Don't throw the pot away, it's entirely possible that those are random seeds that somehow got into the pot. (maybe via the dirt you used? wind blew them in? bird shit in the pot?)

Your venus flytraps may yet still grow.
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>Ailanthus altissima
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>living walls

Is something like this doable in an apartment? Would I need special lighting, irrigation, or wall protection?

If doable, recommended species for medium or low light?
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>>2132185
I'm not plant literate enough to know all of these, I just want to draw attention to my question
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>>2132185
>>2132186

I don't know anything either - I just think that's fucking gorgeous.
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>>2132081
pretty much what this guy said about good old robby. It's one of the easier plants to grow, and is a very very forgiving plant, I would argue more so than Bical. But it is a very slow grower and takes a long time to mature.
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My sarracenia has slowed down new growth and is slowly dying. It's a week away from winter so is this dormancy?
Should I keep it wet and exposed like normal?
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>>2132246
Post pictures.
Also try pulling the old half deas leaves out, if they come out easily with a vivid brown in the living part, it's a fungi.
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>>2132096
Did you not water it for two months? Sometimes I wish my pothos would die.
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>>2132185
it's nice for a few months but it becomes a pain in the ass to water and generally care for after a few months/years when it gets boring because you lose interest.

I had orchids hanging in my bedroom for years, they seem to tolerate it pretty well.
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What Sphagnum can be used for Indoor plants, like Nepenthes?

Is it possible to use the Sphagnum I use outdoors? Or do I have to get a tropical species?
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>>2132368
any, whether it's tropical or not only matters if you're trying to keep it alive.

sphagnum doesn't lose it's moisture retention when it's dead.
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>>2132373
Thank you

So, If I want living sphagnum, I have to get "tropical" ones?

Where should it be from? Chile?
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>>2132378
tropical sphagnum doesn't exist.

it's going to struggle regardless of where you get it from.
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>>2132381
that's why I said "tropical" in quotes

It's going to struggle even with highland Nepenthes?
Because I often see Nepenthes with Sphagnum, and it doesn't seem to be struggling.

I allways used dead Sphagnum or peat mixed with perlite as substrate for these kinds of plants, but I really want to use living Sphagnum now.
Because I heard it works better and certainly looks better
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>>2132382
it's probably better go go with something from new zealand.

that's about as close to tropical as you'll get.
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I woke up this morning to find my favorite flowers in my garden decided to bloom.
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>>2132382
Sphagnum will nosedive if you can't provide greenhouse/terrarium conditions of constant high humidity - I've been trying to grow it alongside all my Neps from the start and the only surviving patch is with my half-bagged-up N. jacq. When it's been bunged in a terrarium however, it just explodes and I'm at a point where I have to trim my plump green bush regularly. If you're windowsill growing I would simply skip the live Sphagnum idea altogether, it will only be a very ugly and very dead disappointment.
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>>2132368
Live sphagnum, red sphagnum. Dead Sphagnum, long sphagnum. Shredded sphagnum, orchid sphagnum. Use any. But take it from someone who has grown nepenthes for almost 9 years now. DO NOT use live sphagnum for seedlings. The moss may outgrow and choke the plants to death.
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>>2132273
Yes. It also did not take to snow very well. I love my pothos, though, I still have one.
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>>2132384
qt <3
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>>2132439
Thanks
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Rest In Pepperoni shitty in-vitro b52
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>>2132580
I never understood why some people have an flag on their lawn. Like, what is the purpose of it? Is it just a thing white people who live out in the sticks do?
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>>2132580
you need more groundcovers in the first area.

and aconitums.
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>>2132696
It's just a bit of harmless patriotism. Nothing wrong with throwing up a big dumb flag if you feel like being proud of it, but if you do it here in Western Europe it's apparently xenophobic, and you're guaranteed to be reported by a local Muslim. They generally hate all things /an/ and /out/ too so fuck 'em.
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>>2132708
>National pride means you're xenophobic
Are you from Germany or something?
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>>2132627
Most carinvorous plants are TC though.
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>>2132726
Not Germany but a fairly 'culturally-enriched' area of the UK... just fucking sick of Muslim complaints towards any last fragments of culture here, throwing shitfits over nativity plays at primary school etc. Literally never ever seen these anti-intellectual cunts at a national park, botanical garden, zoo or aquarium so they can all collectively rot as far as I care. So I'll never shit on Americans again for their aimless, flamboyant patriotism, lest it go the same way as ours.
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>>2132742
Once you move to America, you're American. That's the kind of country it is. People who immigrate to a new country for a better life, then bring that quality of life down to how it is in their home country are disgusting, though.
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>>2132742
I've got a frisian flag hanging to remind everyone that they're filthy immigrants.

the dutch aren't native to the netherlands, they're just the offspring of romans combined with some other garbage, the only natives of the netherlands are frisians.
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>>2132696
I hung a new flag this weekend because it's memorial day weekend. It is symbolic for many reasons, my patriotism is one of them, but this weekend I proudly fly an American flag to show respect for all those who paid the ultimate price for the freedom and liberties I enjoy everyday.
>>2132697
The next area I will be landscaping I will be experimenting with ground covers. It's a learning experience for me so far as you well know, you've helped me before.
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>>2132750
Yeah, well you could also say the English are native to England for similar reasons, if it happened more than 500 years ago, I'd say they're native enough.
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>>2132757
Aren't*
And don't even get me started on America.
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>>2132753
saxifraga x geum would be nice, or some salvias.

they're both hardy as fuck.
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>>2132759
Salvias are very popular around me, and a suggestion I will probably use. Thank you.
That area was started as a hosta overflow. It is also where my waterline runs from my well head to the house, so it has to stay accessible.
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>>2132784
>forgot pic of the double rainbow I'm currently looking at
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>>2132744
If you really believe that, you must be mistaken. There are people here who come here and don't even bother learning the de facto national language
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>>2132732
Yeah but I have the suspicion that this guy sells plants directly from in-vitro. They never adapt and the only one that did is like 1/3 of the regular size of a normal red piranha.
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>>2132967
oh wtf. That makes literally no sense. If he just waited a little for them to establish as stable TC plants, he could sell them for more too. Why the fuck would you just pull them out of in vitro and just sell them???
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>>2132987
The ones that have been in this hobby for some years now have the suspicion that he makes his living by being the first Google result if you search for "carnivorous plants sell spain" we all have bought from him when we were noobies and it's always been shit, tiny and sickly dionaea, ultra small cephalotus, fucking drosera seeds won't germinate...

Plus he harasses other vendors to eliminate all the competition he can. A wonderful person let me tell you.
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Nepenthes x rebecca soper
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>>2132998
I did some digging around and there's a good vendor out of the czech republic called Best carnivorous plants or something like that. Since you guys are all in the EU, why not just dump the shit vendor and buy from the czech dudes
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>>2132246
I'm not sarr expert but I can at least tell you if your plant is actually dying or is just going to sleep for the winter. But you need to post pics
>>2133102
happy looking plant anon
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I bought these two dionaea today. One is simply a very red typical and the other has dentate teeth
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>>2133387
The teeth on the right one look a bit big to be dentate.
Your typical looks very red, almost too red. Coloration kind of reminds me of big mouth. Were they labeled?
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>>2133402
Well they are from a friend that has a store and crosses cultivars and typicals just because.
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>>2133297
carnivoria.eu is also great
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>>2133452
oh I see. Regardless, they're pretty little plants
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Question: what media should I use to stratify sarracenia seeds in?
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>>2133482
Agreed, got many of my Neps here and they've been some of the easiest to acclimatise.
>>2133811
Live Sphagnum is your best bet. Although when I was about 10 and a fair bit more retarded than now, I put hybrid seeds in the fridge with no media at all and I still somehow got a couple of seedlings (flava x minor Okeefenokee Giant I think?).
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>>2133852
>I put hybrid seeds in the fridge with no media at all and I still somehow got a couple of seedlings
Anon you are the chosen one
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Novice with the venus flytrap again. The traps are bright green, no red on the inside, and one of the leaves that was healthy last week is now turning brown. I have the flytrap under a grow light most of the day, in moist sphagnum moss in a terrarium. I water it from the dehumidifier, which pulls water directly from the air, so it's not enriched with any minerals or anything and is similar to rain water.

Should I cut back on the light and see if it needs to be adjusted gradually? I don't know what sort of lighting it was under before I bought it, but it was being sold indoors.

It does have new leaves forming.
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>>2133956
A growlight? My gut tells me your plant isn't getting enough light. How fast do the traps close? A new trap on a healthy plant should close in under a second. What usda zone do you live in?
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>>2133961
It takes about 1 second for the traps to close. I'm in zone 7.
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>>2133962
Zone 7 is about right for Dionaea. My plants are down in 9B and last time mom updated me on them, they looked just fine. I suggest you leave your plant outdoors, in full sun and in a tray of standing water about 1/2-1in deep. These things aren't very finnicky about humidity, they just need bright light and tons of water.
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>>2133964
I wouldn't leave dionaea always with water, they have the tendency to rot if they are damp 24/7
What has worked better for me has been watering them when their substrate is almost dry. And live sphagnum moss is the best for them. Btw here are the two that I bought yesterday. I planted them together because I want to try if it is true that they grow better when they are crammed in the same pot.
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>>2134011
ah I see. See mine are grown outdoors in socal, so if I dont leave them in water, they bake and turn into sundried vft chips
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>>2133964
>>2134011
Alright, I put it outside, I'm going to move it inside at night. My neighborhood is the type where shit gets stolen if it's not actually in the ground/tied down/chained up.
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>>2134021
wow. living next to some of them black folk?
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Anyone here have personal experience with N. lowii?
Thinking of buying one

what's their growth rate?
I heard, they grow really slow
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>>2134077
Slow, large. They are highlanders so much more adaptable to indoor conditions. I haven't heard that they're super hard to grow, just a bit slowm
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>>2134023
No, white trash teenagers.
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>>2134023
I resent the implication. Just like you implied earlier that not all Chinese folk are cheap low-lifes, not every black person is a kleptomaniac.
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>>2134077
Is that thing going to be your first plant??? That is not a beginner plant. It can be picky and they get quite large
>>2134107
sorry fambam
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>>2134021
Can't you leave it on the roof? It's what I do.
Anyway now that is going to get direct sunlight the old leaves will get sunburn. You only should be worries about the new ones developing correctly.
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>>2134077
As has already been said, they're slow as shit and are NOT a beginner/windowsill plant. I have 5 (although one is just a shitty recovering nub, as it arrived mite-infested) in different conditions amongst my other plants. The non-terrarium ones struggled over winter with combined shortened photoperiod and shortened temperature range, and have only just got back on track. I still have a long way to go until they're big, respectable specimens. However, once they reach a decent size (several inches diameter, so about ~7-years-old upwards) they pick up some speed to approach their famous upper stage. I've had the luxury of drooling over a couple of vining plants including pic related.
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>>2134156
have u ever taken a dump in one? feels good man
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>>2134156
Also why the hell do you have 5? goddamn anon
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>>2134115
No, it's not my firrst Nepenthes

>>2134156
Thank you, so it's basically a classic highland species, and is relatively slow growing by comparison?

I would put the lowii in a seperate Terrarium.
So you would say it would be better to put a lamp over it in winter?

Also, does it need/like extreme temp drops during the night like many other highland Nepenthes (e.g. inermis)?
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>>2134156
forgot to say that the plant in your pic is absolutely stunning
I never had the pleasure of seeing a big one in person
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>>2134179
What can I say man, I like lowii. Although it might be a few years yet until I can sit back with a newspaper and fertilise an upper pitcher.
>>2134232
It barely moves compared to the likes of ventricosa, 'relatively slow' is an understatement. If by 'lamp' you mean t5s or LEDs then sure, anything that won't fry the humidity. Diurnal highs/night drops are an absolute necessity. And you can thank the cheeky Japs for that monster, it's just a shame I didn't also take a shot of the even-bigger wavy-leaf maxima and mira below.
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>>2134346
I see. I kind of understand that too. I wish I could hoard robcantleyi and amps but I'm a broke ass college student
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I need to water my plants.

They are wilting.
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>>2134407
You should water your plants

They are wilting
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Anyone here into bush regeneration or land management?
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RIP plant
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Time for a new thread, I reckon. Here's a slightly sticky, hairy, unopened N. stenophylla pitcher to further kill the mood.
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>>2135589
Then allow me to post the first sarracenia I bought.
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>>2135638
Also you can see the two divisions I have left from my S. Flava. They don't seem to be suffering from fungi anymore but they are growing extremely slow and deformed. Let's see if they survive.
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>>2135639
yeah it might take a whole growing season to recover from that trauma
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>>2135685
Yes, hehe, let's wait 3 or 4 years until the divisions I have left are as big as the one I had...
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Pinguicula Moranensis var. Caudata I got from a friend a month or so ago. Once it gets settled in the leaves look unnaturally perfect; almost like plastic.
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Pinguicula "Florian" I had a while back but succumbed to fungus. I ordered another one recently for a second chance
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>>2136457
The fuck kind of heathen money is that?
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C. Follicularis typical taking its sweet ass time putting out its first adult pitcher
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We need a new plant thread, someone care to make one?

>>2136461
I think some kind of south-east asian currency

>>2136457
cute
good luck with your new one
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D. Burmannii used flower itself to death; it's super effective
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Thailand baht
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>>2136464
yeah hold up. On it
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NEW BREAD
>>2136487
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>>2128663
It is everywhere in our garden. You can take it out it comes again and again and fuckn again -.-ยด
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