/aq/- Aquarium General

>>2093858
Also: old thread: >>2091239

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RCS catching ride on Nerite snail or eating off him

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3rd for amano shrimp a best

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hydor-Prime-20-External-Filter/dp/B00F3W1P0O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1459711458&sr=8-1&keywords=hydor+20

Just bought this canister filter for £36, how did I do?

For a 54 litre marine tank. Hoping it will double as a decent powerful so I won't have to buy a dedicated one. Is 600L/H a decent flow rate for a tank that size?

>>2093911
dreaming of co2 injection one day as my tiny 3 inch patch of microanthetum slowly turns brown and dies :(

>>2093911
is that brown line his shit?
[spoiler]radical[/spoiler]

>>2093963
that's his notochord senpai. aka proto-spine

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>>2093911

I agree, they're delicious!

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??????????????

>>2093986
Sometimes I like to take a glass of water and put a fish in it. I then take a salt shaker and unscrew the cap. Then I pour salt in the glass of water until the fish gets buried alive(Refill as necessary). You should try it sometime.

Welp, gave my nerite snail back to the pet store 15 minutes ago. Betta would never stop attacking him from day one, and betta has been getting a lot of fin tears, it has to be from all the flaring.

So now I have an overly aggressive betta and a 10 gallon tank that is using basically none of its capacity. Is there ANYTHING i can put in here with him?

can a kuhli loach or two go in? The tank is overfiltered (aquaclear 20)

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>>2094012
Might be time to just put Old Better down...

>>2094002
As soon as my Amano shrimp finish breeding and the shrimplets are free I scoop everyone but a male and female and put them in a cup. Then I pull down my pants, put my asshole right above the glass and take a shit into the glass. I think next time I go through the the process of breeding them I'm going to just out them in paint thinner along with Nerite snail babies. Sounds like a waste but I get bored :)

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Rate my blueprints, Anons

>>2094012
If you can't even put a snail in without your betta freaking out, I wouldn't put in anything that moves. Some bettas just suck at the community thing, it's a risk you take when you get a betta. Mine can only seem to be with snails or corydoras, and even then he'll dart at them from time to time. In the past, I've had bettas that adjusted perfectly well to communities.

Might as well heavily plant that bitch. Aquascape the fuck out of that 10 gal.

>>2094039
it's pretty heavily planted anyway, i can't put more plants in without better lights, there's no point in buying better lights without co2 injection, there's no point in doing co2 injection in a 10 gallon tank.

I now despise this fucking tank and don't particularly like the betta (never had an aggressive one in 6 bettas)

It seems like a lot of work to keep up a planted 10gal just to have a betta in it.

If i got a 20 could I get kuhli loaches?

>>2094044
Bump it to 30 gallons. Not 29 but a 36 inch long 30 gallon or 40 breeder with kuhlis

>>2094039
I've had a giant plakat. 3 inches of fucc n succ. I put him in my 55 till someone came and picked him up. 3 inch fish scaring the fuck out of a 4 inch acara and green terror.

>>2094044
>>2094049

Fair warning, even in a big tank, he might be aggressive toward the kuhlis. I had to move mine out of a 40 gal because he was chasing almost everything that moved (including but not limited to kuhlis) and killed a female guppy. He's in a 20 gal now.

Plenty of plants and decor should break his line of sight, but if you see him chasing the loaches, you might want to move him back into the smaller tank and keep the bigger one as your bitchin' tank.

Kuhlis are awesome once they're used to you, if you've never had them before. I love them.

Would a male betta do well in a 60 gallon community tank?

>>2094071
that depends entirely on what else makes up the community. no fin nippers, nothing territorial and nothing he'd feel compelled to fight.

>>2094071
depends on the betta. some are docile as fuck and get along with literally everything and just pick a little area to hang out in.

some will attack everything that moves. in my experience the former is more likely than the latter. you can even have like 4 males in a 50+ gallon, i've seen it done.

>>2094075
>>2094074
Some rummy nose and serpae tetras
Red tailed shark
panda garra
some snails and shrimp

>>2094087
All of the fish are juvenile

>>2094087
>Red tailed shark

nope.

>first male betta
>light blue halfmoon that looked like a neon tetra
>placed in a community tank with neon tetras, cherry barbs, ghost shrimps, and a black molly
>huge pussy that hid most of the time, never interacted with me, can't eat the tiniest shrimp but will fight a small cherry shrimp and fail
>died after heater failure, so did the entire tank
>month later
>second male betta
>blue half-moon in a tank with amanos
>trustable with fish
>won't bother the most tiniest ghost shrimp but will kill a cherry shrimp
>never interacts with me, will swim away from my up-close hand gestures
>new third betta
>red veil-tail with ghost shrimp
>unsure of it with any fish or dwarf shrimp
>interested in my appearance
>investigates the tank a lot

what the fuck /aq/

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So i hace two sick fish and they have blood spots and are swimming diagonally, should i end their suffering?, i dont want the disease to pass to my new cpd fry

>>2094096
>i dont want the disease to pass to my new cpd fry

already did.

>>2094098
the fry are in the growout tank, my plan is cull, waterchange and pass the fish, never using antibiotics again

>>2094103
antibiotics just make fish die slightly slower or of slightly different causes in my opinion.

methylene blue dips, however, will kill damn near anything (including your fish obviously if not performed correctly)

if your fish have "blood spots" they cannot be saved.

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R8 my month old planted 40g?

if i were to be able to get 40-50 gallon tank how manyy fishes could i put in it? how big coulde they be

>>2094146
what about 30 gallons? i know the rule of thumb is one inch of fish per gallon but what about larger fish 12 plus inches

>>2094132
I dislike the blue light, very unnatural in contrast to the white light. Pretty good.

>>2094151
>rule of thumb is one inch of fish per gallon
Flawed rule, you wouldn't put a 200 inch fish in a 200 gallon would you? Of course not.
First, you need to figure out the expelled bioload, overstocking CAN be done right. Size of the fish does matter, always think about the adult size, "would this fish be happy if I stuffed it in?" raises the answer.

>>2094164
how much filtration do i need? im basically asking if i get a tank can i keep a handful of 10-15 inch fish in it?

>>2094166
You're going to need a 65+ gallon for a handful of 10-15 inch fish, filter has to meet gallon expectancy, you can even double your filtration if you decide to.
For example, in 10 gallons, you'll need 10 gallons or more of filtration.

>>2094169
per hour? per day? guess i wont be getting an aquarium

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>>2094172
A simple 10 gallon filter can approximately filter 2 to 10 gallons of water an hour, depending on which brand.
Keeping an aquarium is very simple, beginning with large fish is not.

>>2093561
>first time mating
Early parenthood can result in her dropping the eggs.
Also: it can be because of unfavorable conditions but I'd wait for a 5th batch of eggs being dropped to confirm that.

Just how sturdy are goldfish? My girlfriend's little stepsister has had a comet in a gallon bowl for like a year now and it's still somehow alive

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>>2094161
I actually just went and purchased another white light. Blue light was an accidental aquasition

>>2094217
>aquasition
>puts on sunglasses
>YEAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH

>>2094178
yeah but if i were to stick with a tank i would do natie fishies so maybe a minimum of 4-5 inches and a maximum of 10-12 uess il stick with ponds

>>2094205
Hella fuckin hardy.
>>2094217
There it is, looks kick-ass now.

>>2094217
What kind of fish are those blue ones and how much did the setup cost?

sorry new to fish and wanting to set up a similar aquarium.

>>2094169
wot? you dont need 65+ gallons for a handful of 1 inch fish. you could have 30+ 1 inch fish in a 20 gal. source: ive done it

>>2094169
>>2094291
my bad misread that as "10-15 one inch fish" im a retard, sorry

>>2094266
Blue ones are standard neon tetras. Total cost of everything pictured I would put at right around $1,000

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>tfw live in second floor condo
>cant get a 150 gallon jaguar cichlid aquarium because i already have 4 aquariums and I'll collapse the floor in probably

>>2094258
Thanks man. Waiting for the dwarf grass to take off

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>>2094219

>>2094132
You're gonna want to trim off the parts with hair algae. It's nasty stuff.

>>2094388
Just installed a Co2 kit and it seems to be damaging it. Going to see how it goes down over the next couple days

Just ripped out my 2yr old cluster fuck of Lacy Java fern, kinda sad yo, but I finally got my first case of bladder snail infestation and those lil snail niggers tore it up and ripped it apart. The snail meme is real and I hate it. I want to smoosh them all.

I just found a discontinued starter aquarium model still in its box, but I've never had pets and won't have time for fish. Anybody know if the Walmart brand Aqua Culture 10 gallon LED kit is any good to sell/give away?

>>2094217
Very nice!

>>2094399
If bladder snails rip up your plant it probably wasn't doing so hot.

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I need some help.

I got this tank off a friend about a week ago. It is my first tank.

I have a tetra pf 10 filter an aqua coulture bubbler and a heater that keeps my water between 72°F and 74°F. I used start right both times and let the set up run for roughly 5 hours prior befor adding my fish each time since start right apparently works quickly/instantly and i feed the fish tetra brand goldfish food 2x a day.

Bought my first 9 fish from walmart (8 gold fish 1 sucker fish) 1/2 died over night. Went to walmart had them replaced. Put them in tank too. All fish were dead next morning when i woke up.

Cleaned out my tank washed everything out (warm water) and rinsed my gravle fake plants ect. Refilled tank added start right and let it all run the rest of the day

Decided walmart fish are shit after employee tells me they "are not requiered to feed them"

Went to pet supplies plus and got 12 goldfish. Brought them home and sat the bag in the water to adjust temprature so i dont kill the fish by shoking them.

Let them play freely over night. Fine all day and now at 2 am one is fucking dead again.

What the hell am i doing wrong? Can anyone give me tips? Or tell me how to keep them alive

>>2094413
Did you put any water conditioner in the tank? Tap water contains chlorides, chlorine, and ammonia. Also gold fish get big and if I were you I'd just get a few guppies to start out with. After you get comfortable with running that tank and your fish don't keep dying, upgrade to a bigger tank and use live plants.

Just my two cents

>>2094413
>what am I doing wrong?
You're stuffing 12 Goldfish and a possible Pleco into a fucking death chamber.
>why is this bad?
Goldfish grow up to be huge, I'm not talking 4-5 inches, I'm talking about 8-15 inches. They also produce a shitload of waste not even comparable to a Pleco(which also produces a shitload of waste)
Do us a favor and use Google for further research.

>>2094418
Start right is conditioner and will look into live plants
>>2094421 just 12 babies and i did use google fuck nut all i got from that was 1 gallon of water per fish (i figured 2 extra wouldnt hurt) and the 3-4 sites i went to said nothing about them getting to be that big

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>>2094426
>just 12 babies
>1 gallon of water per fish
>i figured 2 extra wouldn't hurt
>3-4 sites i went to said nothing about them getting to be that big

Have fun with that torture chamber.

>>2094413
How big is that tank? I know you said you used Start Right, but I'd have played it safe and cycled the tank normally for about two weeks before adding fish. I'd also add fish more gradually, say 2-3 at a time.

Goldfish are cold water fish, you probably don't need that heater for them. They actually don't like water over 72 F. They're also very messy and get huge, so I hope that tank is at least a 50 gal. If it's significantly smaller, you might want to return the goldfish and switch to guppies. Guppies are hardy, easy, colorful, friendly, and prefer warmer tanks. They're my favorite starter fish.

Good luck.

>>2094426
>1 gallon of water per fish

>>2094087
>red tail
Nah man, rainbows are much better

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Three live threads, bumping w pics

>>2094313
pretty unlikely, but so what if you do?
that's what insurance is for.

>>2094547
Nigger what

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>>2094579
You 'erd me, nigger

>>2094598
The rainbow sharks at my LFS look like shit

>>2094632
All grey and washed out of colour?
Sucks. i managed to get mine off of a friend, it's nice and black, just like the image I posted.

>>2094632
>>2094633
Yes but once you get them home with a dark substrate they turn dark. I took mine out of a black gravel tank and put him in a sandy tank and he's grey now. Also don't be a piece of shit. Fish aren't toys. You can't judge them by color. If you do that makes you garbage and you're not in it for the hobby.

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>>2094638
You're right they're not toys. But I'm not obligated to find everything attractive and put fish in my aquarium that I don't like. So go fuck yourself.

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>>2094638
Fish with proper colouration indicates that they're healthy and fit. If a fish is pale and washed out, it shows that they're weak, stressed, ill, or dying.

Don't try and take the moral high ground if you don't know what you're talking about. There's a reason most aquarists pick out the lively, active and well coloured fish from LFSs, it's not just "muh purty colors xDDD"

Strangely, my loaches coloured up better when put on white gravel, I haven't moved my shark from my 65 yet, but I guess it'll be interesting to see how his colour changes.

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>wake up
>2 more dead amano cocktail shrimp lying in the tank where the other died previously

I take back all the mean things I said about you Amanobros, please don't die out ;_;

There's like 3 left hiding on the driftwood in their spot. Probably out of my original 8, these are the only survivors left. I don't know why they are all dying after the 50% water change once per month, my RCS are completely fine. Maybe they really were overcompeting for sinking fish/shrimp food

>>2094651
Could there be too much copper in your tap water?

>>2094413
I hate people like you.

>>2094651

What are you putting in your water?
What is your substrate?
What else is in the tank?

>>2094642
Usually most (notice I used most) fish change to a lighter color depending on environment. That's pretty much a fact. My emerald corys turned almost black until I put them with a light sand substrate now you can tell. Rainbow shark turned greyish, green phantom is a lighter color, acara isn't as vibrant and so on. Depends on the environment they're in.

>>2094641
"Durr I collect fish with ballooned bodies and pop eye cuz it so cooooot!!!!1!2!2" end you life

>>2094670
Your insults might have more impact if you didn't spell like a toddler.

>>2094670
Nigger that makes 0 sense. IF you paid any fucking attention to previous posts >>2094087
You'd know that I don't have fish like that.

Before you go spouting shit you should pull your head out of your ass or you'll get shit all over your face.

this can't be the day /an/ and /aq/ becomes autistic all together

>>2094678
Riiigghht keep telling yourself that as you buy dyed fish from petco

>>2094638
I'll check my privilege next time. Thank you for your service.

I'm still reading the same amount of ammonia even though I have nitrites and nitrates going up. Is this because I have plants melting in the tank still?

>>2094662
I'm not sure. If there is, wouldn't it mass nuke my RCS too? I've yet to see a single RCS corpse, and it's not like they disappear overnight

>>2094666
Dry ferts and Flourish once a week, Excel daily.

Substrate is a combination of Eco Complete and Black Sand Flourite, there's some Oscmocote+ tabs I put in deep a month or two ago

3 Honey Gouramis, 11 Kuhli Loaches. I've never seen the Honeys harass the Amanos, only baby and juvenile RCS. They only are aggressive in bursts towards each other and are very chill with sharing meals with Kuhlis, adult RCS, and Amanos at feeding time

>>2094798
How much ammonia is in your tank? Nitrites and Nitrates?

>>2094811
Reading about 2ppm Ammonia, 1ppm Nitrite, and 10ppm Nitrate. No stock as of now but I know there are probably some bladder snails lurking.

>>2094812
Are you cycling? Your nitrites will probably skyrocket into a dark purple in the future if you're using the API test tube kit

Once your nitrites and ammonia are back to 0, your nitrates should be pretty high. Do a water change and throw some more ammonia in there, and if it gets processed to nitrate by the next day your tank should be good to go

Also, don't worry about plants melting contributing to the ammonia spike too much. My entire 29g full of crypts literally melted and everything was covered in a thin layer of shit, but it still cycled and was fine

Can I keep RCS in a planted 2.5 gal dosing 5 drops of Excel daily or is that asking for trouble?

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wtf are these? flatworms? I read flatworms are a result of overfeeding or an unclean tank but I feed 5 days a week and usually clean the tank weekly so I'm not sure

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Anyone thunk they can ID this Anemone? I saved it from a tank breakdown as it's orginal owner a priest died.

>>2094916
Think* fucking autocorrect. At first I thought it was a carpet anemone.

>>2094916
Think of all the child rapes it has seen. That poor thing.

>>2094916
I dunno anything about anemonies, but google makes me think it might be macrodactyla doreensis.

Can I raise sea monkeys in a normal 5g or do they really gotta be in a small v shaped container

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Alright everyone, rate my tank. No holding back edition

tips and pointers are much appreciated

>>2095014
-Overcrowded.
-I only see like 4 kinds of plants in the whole picture.
-Those rocks look a tid bit tacky.
-Quality of light could be improved.

Otherwise tho pretty nice! It's good to see aquascaping that doesn't cost a grand.

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WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE WORMS

>>2095024
>overcrowded
Oh boy! Look at the retard!

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>>2095094
AND THESE WHITE LITTLE SPEC THINGS THAT WIGGLE AROUND

>>2095094
Reeeee!!!! Nuke that tank NOW! It's a parasite!

>>2095097
Srs? I mean obviously it's a parasite but what do I do

>>2095095
Wew, rude. I was only commenting on the aesthetic. Tank looks overcrowded to me.

>>2095099
Probably not a parasite, dude.

Feed less. That driftwood doesn't look properly treated, did you find it somewhere?

>>2095102
It's been in about 3 different tanks over 10 years. It should be problem. Did add some new floating plants and dwarf grass. Could have been a tag along I suppose

>>2095100
No you were not you little liar! I should have you wear a choker and bend you over and spank you!

>>2095014
dont bury your banana plant bro, leave it on top, it'll shoot roots down and than grow these crazy cool floating lily pad things that are really red on the bottom

>>2095109
lmao ive had it buried for so long tht it just sinks now.

So Ive got two questions. I was gifted a beta and a 20 gallon tank, and I wanted so,e decorating tips and wanted to know if I can place any community fish in there, or something like clamp as my friend suggested. I also have another 20 galon tank , and I wanted to out something really weird and cool in it but I can't think of what. I'm only experienced with fresh water if that helps.

>>2095117
In theory you could make the other 20 gallon salt water and put a dwarf clown fish in it.

>>2095105
Jesus christ bro. Take your sexual frustrations out elsewhere.

>>2095104
Yah I just wouldn't worry about the wormies.

>>2095105
What the actual fuck

>>2094651
>>2094811
Another dead Amanobro today. Guys will they forgive me for wishing they were dead? I hope they are happy in shrimp heaven pigging out on an entire half of an algae wafer or whatever

I'm tempted to get more Amanos from Petco and the LFS 1.5 hours away, the latter gave me Amanos that became HUGE in months. I mean like they grew from >1" to 1.75" in two months, is that a bad thing?

>>2095117
Community fish might work, Betta might get aggressive or the community fish will fin nip.

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>Ammonia dropped from 8ppm to 0 in 48 hours

Just waiting on the nitrites to drop now, come on nitrifying bacterian-sama.

>>2095134
I found a dead shrimp yesterday. Threw it to my acara. My hands smelled like shrimp.

Did we ever come to an agreement on why rainbow sharks and kuhli loaches get on so well? I didn't post the initial question on the old thread, but I've noticed that my loaches are the only thing my shark hasn't chased yet, and he doesn't seem to mind them hanging around his favorite spot or eating his food.

i got Brush Algae anons, kill me.

>>2095213
so? black out the tank for a few days. gone. also hit it with some flourish excel.

how long would i be aable to keep a handfull ( 3-4 ) larger fish (8-14 inches )in a 30-40 gallon tank with nothin but an aerator ?

>>2095280
i also would be abe to keep some in a smaller tank ( 20 gallon maybe ) or be able to use this to add gallons to the cycle

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Can anyone answer me this? I'm looking to get an algae eater for my Burma/Thailand themed tank, and I've come across panda garras as the best option, unfortunately, I own a rainbow shark. I've heard some say garras are too closely related to rainbow sharks, so they will get attacked, and I've heard others say that they're 100% fine together. But does anyone here have an answer? Does anyone here keep garras with any member of the Epalzeorhynchos genus?

>>2095292
I keep a garra flavatra with 5 red tailed sharks and they leave it alone.

Although I've read multiple places that you need at least 3 or they'll get stressed out. I have no idea if that's true or not as mine is fine by itself.

>>2095292
A couple siamese algae eaters would be another option

>>2095280
Not long. Especially if active fish and especially if they're cichlids or something they'll always fight and you'll have deaths.

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>>2094178
>pic
Man, that tank aged a lot worse than I realized. I guess it's time for some rearranging.
All of the java fern died. I can't keep the stuff alive for shit. The Cyperus helferi died, too, but I expected that. The salvinia is growing out of control, the crypts are doing well, and the babby skrimps are still doing well, though, so there's that.

>>2095361
>can't keep java fern alive

???????? java fern grows in boiling urine

>>2095117
>I wanted to out something really weird and cool in it but I can't think of what
Crayfish, axolotl, pufferfish, newts, frogs (ADF or fire belly), Thai micro crabs.

>>2095367
Which is why this is frustrating for me.

>>2095375
not enough nutrients in the water column, you need fish

>>2095375
>>2095367
I've actually had a strange amount of trouble getting mine to grow. It won't die out. It just doesn't do anything at all really.

Lighting and ferts are on point. Bioload is heavy. I have plants like rotala and amazon sword and lotuses that grow great in the same tank. My sword plant actually has three "runners" with baby amazon swords growing everywhere. Java fern just kind of sits there, I don't understand it really.

>>2095377
Possibly, but it dies in my community tank, too.

>>2095380
It's being out competed

How common is it for LFS to give away animals for free? I just got 6 MTS from mine.

>>2095386
Not common at any of my LFS

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Could i keep a rainbow shark in a 37 gallon tank

>>2095386
>mts
Not commonly used here. What is it?

Also depends how long and how loyal of a customer you have been

>>2095392
Yes

>>2095386
MTS are considered pests/hitchhikers and they reproduce in explosive numbers. don't put in your tank unless you want them.

they are rather cute though.

>>2095395
malaysian trumpet snail

>>2095395
Sorry, Malaysian trumpet snails.

Good bye /an/ 20 year veteran aquarium keeper. Very well know in the community and bred fish that could never be bred in tanks before. Maybe you'll hear about me and maybe you won't. All my gear, tanks, and fish are being auctioned for charity. Thanks for the laughs and autism. See you in the next life.

>>2095402
see you tomorrow

>>2095402
> Very well know in the community and bred fish that could never be bred in tanks before
He's also a navy seal with over 200 confirmed kills

>>2094916
that's a sebae

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>>2095328
I know for a fact that rainbow sharks attack SAEs, it's common knowledge.

>>2095299
>5 red tailed sharks
b8

Has anyone got a real answer?

>>2095425
not b8

They all chill with each other

>>2095428
Unless you have a 1000 gallon tank with tons of caves, I doubt it. Red tailed sharks are extremely territorial.

>>2095429
m8 they are all cool with each other not even joking

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>>2095432
Pic with timestamp.

>>2095434
Any picture I try to take with my phone is more than 4mb sorry anon.

They have little spats occasionally but for the most part they're cool with each other.

>>2095442
Okay Brandon King

>>2095442
Total fucking b8

>>2095112
It's supposed to sink, but the "bananas" ideally shouldn't be buried. In a gravel substrate like yours it doesn't really matter.

>>2095402
Is this pasta? Are you dying? Why are you signing off like this? Your post alarms me deeply.

>>2095463
>>2095465

It's not bait you fuckers.
I've seen people shove 5 male bettas in a 55 gallon tank and they'd be fine.

>>2095386
>give away animals
The only things I get for free are plant trimmings and extra feeder fish/shrimp. Though I'm a frequent customer and [spoiler]is banging the qt chick at the counter[/spoiler]

>>2095474
No I'm just telling you your name

anybody have an Arowana?

>>2095500
Tanks gotta be 6+ft by 24 or more inches wide

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What the heck is this? Is my tank being invaded by aliens /aq/?

>>2095517
hydra, kill it

>>2095517
Albino squid. Catch it! It goes for about 20 dollars online.

>>2095517
probably Hydra oligactis

>>2095509
I know... I am just wondering if anyone had one.

>>2095521
>>2095523
Damn... First copepods, then flatworms, now this. Very exited to see what I find next

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>>2095517

Im relatively novice into aquariums so i would like some insight

I had previously 5 Tiger Barbs and a Pleco, two of the tigers barbs died and 3 remain and the pleco so i would like to put more fishes if isnt too much

I know Tiger barbs should be keep in a school of 5 minimun so 2 new Tiger Barbs will be bought, my problem is what fishes can get along with the Tigers barbs besides other barbs and danios since theyre kind of assholes

Yes i know the Pleco will get big as fuck, but when i bought it 2-3 years ago i didnt know about them getting that big so im just waiting for him to kill himself or something or dont destroy the tank

>>2095531
your tank size might help...

>>2094037
I have no idea what the fuck is going on in here, but looks cool.

>>2095535
Woops i forgot, is a tank of 25 gallons, very small for the Pleco so i know sooner or later it will die, but i dont know at what age they stop growing

>>2095528
Yes. Any questions?

>>2095531
Mascara barbs

>>2094071
If it's a betta imbellis, then you have a significant chance of him being docile. Imbellis are the wild undomesticated strain, splendens are the domesticated inbred bettas that are genetically engineered to kill everything.

Besides, I personally find imbellis to be much more beautiful than splendens. Plus, as long as you don't have fin nippers, you never have to worry about torn or shredded fins.

>>2095531
Which pleco species?

>>2094403
Throw it on craigslist or ebay. Somebody somewhere will want it.

>>2095014
I like it. What's all in there

>>2094847
RCS are either hit or miss. So I'd suggest getting 4 to 5 berried females (this is so that even if the mother herself dies, the eggs she's carrying might still hatch and survive) and then one or two males (for future generations).

If you are lucky, you will have a strong hardy stock that will survive just about anything. If you are unlucky, they will be horribly inbred stock that are doomed to die no matter what happens.

>>2095094
Those are tapeworms. Sorry bro.

>>2094847
Go for it. I kept some in a 1.5 gallon dosing Flourish and Excel for several months before upgrading.

So I have a 3 foot * 18 * 18 marine tank with a 20 inch sump tank which IIRC is about 220L of water, and for the past five months all I've had in there was a hammer coral and two clownfish, and some live rock (and some hermit crabs). Recently (a month ago) I bought an angelfish and it did fine for two or three weeks before it went to hide among the rocks ne'er to reappear. We dug it out dead two or so days later. It never really seemed to eat particularly well. I brushed it off as starvation because I was feeding it pellets instead of brine shrimp, and all the other things in the tank were thriving.

Fast forward to two days ago. I went out and bought two foxface rabbitfish, another angelfish, and a jardini coral. This might seem like a lot to add at once but it's a big system with a lot of water. So I put it all in.
Within 24 hours I found the angelfish dead, and it looked like it had been dead for a few hours. Frustrating, but everything else seemed to be doing fine. It was late at night so I went to bed. Woke up the next day and the foxfaces both have whitespot. I did some water testing and the water is a little bit dirty in terms of ammonia, but the ammonia level is rapidly dropping over the course of several more tests and now it's down to zero. Went to the shop, bought some whitespot treatment, came home, went to bed.

Woke up this morning, one of the foxface rabbitfish has now died. Tested the water again, it's still a bit dirty but certainly not bad. And the corals that I have are absolutely flourishing - fully expanded. Even the new one looks better in my tank than it did at the store.

Please advise.

Pic related: fish entering my murder tank

>>2095607
you haven't really mentioned what biofilter you're running and how long it's been cycled.

>inb4 5lbs of live rock

>>2095609
>biofilter
Wet-dry filter full of biocubes in the sump and a few lbs (can't remember how many I bought) in the tank. Most of the filtration should be taking place in the cubes, not the rock. It was cycled for a few weeks before I added any fish, and the tank is 4 or 5 months old by now.

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>>2095607
>forgot pic

>>2095610
if you're reading any ammonia then your filter is either inadequate or not cycled or both.

those three fish really are a lot to add to that size tank all at once though. It may seem like a lot of water, but that's tiny for a marine tank.

depending on which angel you got, those three alone are probably more than the tank can support. 2 foxfaces is pushing it for that little tank.

>>2095607
This is a almost a daily occurrence for salt water fish keepers. This is why they brag about all the money the spend.

>>2095612
All saltwater fish are harvested with a little blast of cyanide in the reef. Kills the reef and most of the fish. The ones that do make it are weak.

>>2095623
Isn't that just South East Asia? I know you would get buttfucked by the EPA or any state wildlife agency if you tried that shit near the states.

>>2095638
>saltwater fish are harvested from the coastal waters of the united states

really

>>2095639
Yes we have tropical fish in Hawaii, Florida, and I assume southern Texas.

>>2095623
>All saltwater fish are harvested with a little blast of cyanide in the reef.
still not true.

doesn't become true no matter how many times you say it.

>>2095638
that was most fish caught in the late 80's and early 90's including ones in the US.

it hasn't been a thing since the early 90's though. It may seem strange but fish stores don't want livestock that dies on the way to the store any more than fish keepers want fish that fall over dead as soon as they get home.

Even in places where it's still legal essentially nobody does it because it kills way too many of the fish. It also presumably kills a fair number of the people that mix it and use it.

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I've started working at a Petco, and will probably move into the aquatics/petco zoo area
Any just basic tips you can through my way for people looking to set up aquariums?
I've got a handle on keeping solitary betas
but outside of that I've got nothing

also look at this yellow-ass koi we got in

>>2095542
if its a common pleco, they really don't stop growing. biggest one I've seen was a bit over a foot.

>>2095671
Different species of fish are going to have different care requirements. I don't know if PetCo is as bad as PetSmart, haphazardly tossing fish into poorly defined "tropical," "kinda mean," and "dicks" groupings and promoting universal "stocking rules" like the inch per gallon rule, but there's a lot more nuance than that. Start looking up care guides on different fish in the store whenever you're bored. Having a good knowledge of each type of fish is going to impress any costumers with impressing, and the ones not worth impressing are going to buy crap no matter what you do.

>>2095716
depends on the people who work there entirely

i had a local petco that i swore never to go into after i saw scores of dead fish one day, just not even being taken care of, employees lazing about.

i had to go in for some reason another day i think i was getting a laser engraved tag for my dog because he lost his. and they had obviously gotten new management or something because the fish tanks were sterling and in fact had been caringly set up, somebody went through and planted like literally 25 tanks, which is completely unheard of in these types of stores.

so lesson learned, even chain shit stores can have caring employees

>>2095735
yeah we got a really good fish guy
and our aquatics manager is really good about us getting deads dealt with asap

>LFS has albino corys

they cost the same as the regular corys I bought except the albinos are smaller, is that part of their deformity?

>>2095554
Thank you man. Its a 30 gallon with:
5 Silver Hatchet Fish
5 Cherry barbs
2 Honey Gourami's
3 Electric Blue Rams
4 Panda Cory's
1 Marble Angelfish
2 Bamboo Shrimp
2 Nerite Snails

I plan on putting water sprite in the back left corner and have it grow to the top and im gonna take out some of that hydro thts in the back left corner, cut the bottoms about half way, and put tht in front of the water sprite. As far as plants go i have crypts on the from left, anubias on the right, and floating water sprite

>>2095659
Oh it is true. That is why salt water owners are cancer and make every aquarium keeper look bad.

I just witnessed some weird behavior between my rainbow shark and my bristlenose. So the rainbow shark was chilling, and the pleco started chasing it. Really aggressively darting at it, over and over. Then it settled down, and the rainbow shark started following it around. Not attacking or anything, just sort of hanging around the pleco. It did this for a few minutes, and they just now separated.

The fuck was that about? Never seen a pleco chase something before.

>>2095854
Bristlenose are territorial especially as they grow larger. Only sometimes though. Also I was at pet supplies plus the other day and they had small common plecos with some decent size goldfish. The fucking commons were floating around then landing on there back succing on them. There was an indent on one goldfish.

>>2095856
It's still juvenile, probably only about an inch and a half long. I don't think it can catch the rainbow shark, but that's good to know.

>>2095857
Even if it he did he wouldn't do anything. Sometimes they have a territory where algae may be growing and will claim it till it's all gone. My hillstream loach has algae territories he guards like crazy.

>>2095691
Is there any chance that it will die alone by any reason rather than needing me to kill it? Ive grown fond of the fish but no one wants to keep it due to how big it gets and i dont wanna kill it

>>2095883
>hillstream loach

do you have to have like a powerful sideways powerhead to have these?

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Rate my zebra danio fry, /aQ/

There's about 65 in there but they are starting to nip at each other so I'm gonna have to move them soon.

Next up is bloodfin tetras

>>2095935
No, just high oxygenation

>>2095770
Albino cories will get the same size as green cories. Their probably just younger.

>>2095935
It's recommended but not necessary. But they enjoy the cool side of waters.

>>2095935
naah, just to keep them happy. cooler water than usual too.

>>2095894
Tons of assholes released them in florda, and now they may as well be naturalized because they are in all rivers, releasing up the stored nutrients.

>>2096015
Everyone in Florida is an asshole. But fishing those waters and selling some of those monster cichlids that have been released can make you good money. People will pay top dollar for a fish that had grown to full size in the wild.

Do you think the LFS would give me some MTS for free or are they gonna try and jew me?

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Hey /aq/. Is it just me, or does my Betta's belly look bloated?
He's my first fish, and I'm worried about overfeeding him. But I'm not sure if I'm just overly concerned.

>>2096106
Maybe. How many pellets does he get?

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>>2096120
Feeding instructions on package said to feed 3 pellets, 3 times daily. That's what I've been doing. Pic related.

>>2096015
I dont want to release it, plus i live on Spain, i started my aquarium 3 years ago and its the only one that remains of the initial fishes so i want it to die in its home, call me pussy

Plus it keeps the aquarium clean so for the moment its useful to me

>>2094413

for the fish to die this quickly there must be something in the water killing them off

you must add water dechlorinator to the water before putting fish in! everything must also be rinsed in dechlorinated water as well not just tap water!!!

letting the bag sit to adjust to temperature is good but fish must also adjust to the water itself you need to slowly combine your aquarium water into the bag as well

>>2095094

those are planarian worms

from my experience they end up appearing my aquariums if im not cleaning them as well i as i should be. they show up in my with gravel if i repeatedly miss spots vacuuming after a month or so, eventually they can move into the water column

being more thorough with cleaning removes them... they are not BAD in the aquarium but for me they are a sign things are getting a little too dirty/funky

a light gravel vacuum will remove the excess debris and loosen/reinvigorate the soil as well as remove some of the planarians

they attach themselves onto things well if you suck them up some will remain latched onto the gravel vac

>>2096121
Cut it down to 3 in the morning then 2-3 at night

>>2096121
Also it's good for fish if you skip feeding a day or two once a month

>>2096153
>>2096154

Thanks, I'll give that a go.

>>2095607
>it's a big system with a lot of water
That's a stupidly small tank for saltwater.

I'm sure there are people that can make it work but if you're needing advice from 4chan about it maybe you should stick to freshwater.

Anybody have any experience with the Finnex Fugeray Planted+ (not the 24/7)? Just got one for my 55 and I'm really underwhelmed by the brightness. Barely seems brighter than my 2x34W T-8 setup that cost about 1/10 the Finnex.

>>2096121
3 times daily is too much, 2 pellets every other day would be better.

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>>2095993
Greetings from Australia

>>2095014
Is it completely grown out? Pretty decent stock and tank setup, it's just yellow.

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>>2095539
I'm a terrible artist, but it's supposed to look similar to pic related
In the front are Dwarf Sag, left and right would be some rooted plant, figures on the rocks would be Anubias Nana and Banana Plants, in the back are Jungle Vals, and at the top would be random floating plants. I can provide a more detailed picture if you wanted one.

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this is my monster tank. 3 Silver Arowana and a baby ali gar. 60 gallons

>>2096231
Looks like maybe something 5-6 foot long. I've seen this before though.

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>>2095883
>Even if it he did he wouldn't do anything.
It's highly unlikely the pleco would do anything, but they're capable. Male bristlenose have retractable "teeth" inside their checks that they can use to tear up other fish.
Mine gets pissy and will flare his out if the rams hang around him too much. He might chase them away, but he doesn't cause any damage.

>>2096065
Depends on the store. I've only met one shop owner with the audacity to charge 50¢ apiece for MTS. Everyone else gladly gives me as many as I'll take off their hands.

I want to get a baby Arowana from my local petstore. I only have a 20 gallon setup but I'm planning on upgrading in the future. Can I get away with putting a large cannister in to reduce waterchanges?

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I'm a fucking dumb ass.

I got an opaline gourami about a year ago and put him in my 20 gallon tank thinking it'd be fine. Now he spends all day harassing my SAE and i'm pretty much at the end of my rope. I don't have other tanks to keep him in and i'd much rather keep my other fish.

Is there somewhere I can give him to or what?

[spoiler]what's the best way to cull a fish?[/spoiler]

>>2096283
**niggers?**

>>2096283
See if an LFS will take him, or find a local fish club and give it to a member.

>>2096289
shoot, the only fish store near me is a petco and there doesn't seem to be any fish clubs in my area.

>>2096290
Is the tank decorated much? More plants or hardscape might break things up enough that the fish get along.

>>2096231
is it actually only 60 gallons? i recently had someone tell me 40-50 gallons couldnt hold 3-5 fish around a foot long

>>2096291
tanks partially planted and a decent amount of hiding spots. Got a sword tail and anubis both are pretty well established.

>>2096296
they don't exactly look comfortable.

>>2096301
thouh one or two look comfortable, and i assume those fish to be 16-20 inches but seriously i couldnt keep one fish aat 14 ish inches and a few around 10-12 in a 50 gallon tank?

>>2096303
I seriously doubt that tank is 60 gallons.

I have a 60 gallon and it couldn't hold 1 arrow let alone 3 and an alligator gar.

>>2096231

Your system is shit, only 60 gallons for that much fish is terrible and irresponsible.

>>2096279

No you stupid nigger.

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Windowsill shrimp tank.

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>>2096321
spooky, its like they're not even there.

>>2096321

1) how do you keep the algae down?
2) How big is that fucking duckweed

>>2096231
>>2096296
>>2096301
>>2096303
>>2096306
>>2096311
>falling for it

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>>2096324
>I was only pretending to be retarded!

>>2096323
I don't get why people are so unable to handle algae.

You should read some walstad or something, it's not hard.

Window tanks are great

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Rate my 20g quarantine/holding tank I slapped together just now out of spare parts.

>>2096336
10/10 because i use and love that filter
I also use the same jager plugged into a finnex controller.

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>>2096322
There are two shrimp and a ramshorn in the tank.

>>2096323
>1) how do you keep the algae down?
The shrimp and snail have been able to keep it under control for about a month now.
>2) How big is that fucking duckweed
Salvinia and water lettuce, not duckweed.

>>2096331
No Walstad fanciness here, I just don't put food into the tank.

>Window tanks are great
Agreed.

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just got an axolatol 3 days ago, I've heard that they like bare bottom tanks/fine gravel/and corse gravel. So I was thinking if I should pour some sand on top a section of the gravel? So like a bed kinda? I just don't want him to accidentally eat a rock and die because of that. For now he eats pellets but I'm thinking about feeding him worms. Thoughts? Tips?

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>>2096363
Bad picture

>>2095517
Looks like a hydras medusae

Hey /Aq/,

I have a brown algae problem that i can shake off no matter what i do, less light doesn't work, less feeding nothing, more regular water changes and as well as the addition of siamese algae eaters, nothing still there as well i have green algae growing too.

Its a 50 gallon tank with a few anubias's, amazon swords a few other misc plants, Has been about 4 months after tank has been cycled, low nitrates etc. 80 or so tetras.

Please give me some advice!

>>2096410
Take the fish out, bleach the tank, rinse it like fuck, put the fish back in.

The only times I've been able to successfully beat a stubborn algae problem is with a "fresh start".

If you have more time and somewhere you can hold the fish for a while then you can empty the tank and let the algae dry out and die. No risk of accidentally poisoning the fish.

>>2096410
Are you dosing any ferts for your plants? Post a pic of your tank.

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>>2096419
i had stopped using fert to see if that was a problem that was associated with it but it wasnt so i have started back on Flourish once a week, flourish iron and excel every 3rd day.

>>2096421
Unbunch those stems and give them more space to grow. What kind of lighting are you using? It might be too intense for your tank.

>>2096423
just using a holder that is made for fluro's in it but replaced the 2 fluro's and starters with 2 17w 6000k led tubes.

>>2096426
Your lighting seems to fine. I'd just add more fast growing plant mass if that was possible and let your tank fill out some more. Eventually the plants will out compete the algae. Otherwise, amanos and otos should take care of any soft algaes like diatoms and green algae. Though to be honest, I only see a little bit of algae of the anubias which is normal when they're hit with plenty of light.

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R8 my tank, the water sprite is a bit overgrown right now and needs trimmed.

>>2096434
okay man what would be some low-medium light plants that would fast growing?

Just had a water change and tried to get most of it off the plants and trimmed amazon swords back because they cover in it and the leafs were slowly dieing.

>>2096442
Hygrophilas, watersprite, and cabomba.

>>2094037
Labels or some sort of key would help.

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Just got this new piece of driftwood. I think it looks pretty good.
I'm currently thinking of getting a corner tank with a bended front. Mostly for some cichlids or something fun. What do you guys think?

>>2096410
Brown diatoms use to piss me off till I threw in a few Nerite snails and bristlenose pleco. Now I'm happy. Throw the algae eaters in the trash. Seriously. They aren't going to really help.

>>2096410
SAEs are more geared towards filamentous/hair algae. Algavorous plecos such as bristlenose or nerite snails would be better for brown algae.

>>2096542

>>2096525

>>2096336
You just put it together and you threw two cinnamons in there? Why? Do you just hate cinnamons?

Fish that should be banned or required license to get?
Banned
All things saltwater
Goldfish
License (must meet minimum tank size)
Fish this reach 12+ inches
Bettas

>>2096592
>all things salt water

Marine aquaria has been a commercial thing since the late 50's bud.

Good luck with that

>>2096568
I always QT fish I buy for 1 week min from individuals. Too much shit when it comes to introduced pests and diseases.

>>2096594
It should be be though. Then slap a 5 year minimum prison sentence.

>>2096594
>>2096595
What's with the trips on /an/ there is absolutely zero point unless you're OP

>>2096592
>All things saltwater
Why are you so butthurt about that.

>>2096606
Almost all saltwater fish are wild caught and no one wants to take the time to breed them because "lol I will chase them out of there reefs and toss a giant mark up" granted some freshwater fish are also wild caught but at least a huge percentage are being bred in aquariums and still people are trying to get some that won't breed at home to breed.

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>>2096595
Your only serving to stress the cinamons and lower their immune systems, allowing disease to run rampant. If you want to quarantine, at least have the system be thoroughly cycled and with a decent amount of liverock in it.

>>2096608
> huge percentage
Keep telling yourself that. Maybe, MAYBE half of freshwater fish are captive raised. Much more of them are wild caught.
Saltwater can be bad, sure, but my rock is artificial live rock, my corals are all aquaculture, and my clownish is captive breed. My three green chromis are wild caught, but thats pretty much all. Oh, and my shrimp was wild. That's not to damaging

>>2096608
Because it's much easier to fuck a reef up to get fish than to breed them. But anyway saltwater aquarists are elitist and will shit on you but get butthurt (see>>2096606) if you mention anything bad about saltwater. It's mainly because they spend a lot of money on making a tank that looks just like every tank ever and keep the same exact fish as everyone else. They don't like different and they don't like change. That being said I spent thousands on my 300 gallon saltwater set up and in the middle of either selling it as is for a nice price to buy a bigger tank to start a freshwater tank or convert this to freshwater. Can not make my mind up as there is so many cool and diverse freshwater fish. But I want rare and hard to come by fish.

>>2096614
Deny it all you want but lots of freshwater fish are being bred and lots of people and Asians are working on more as to not fuck with the environment.

Autism attacks incoming

>>2096616
Not saying it doesn't happen, and it's a great thing that it's becoming more common, but the people who say saltwater harms natural ecosystems more then freshwater are misinformed. Many saltwater fish are captively breed now, from clownfish, to cardinalfish, and even lots of gobies are now captively breed. And almost all coral thats worth any kind of money is raised in aquaculture facilities or corals farmers tanks. Harvesting of freshwater fish isn't as harmless as you'd think. They devastate whole populations and ruin the bottom of the river sieving with their nets, and there is a much larger number of freshwater fish that never make it to the fish store then saltwater fish. Still, the local economies depend on our aquarium trade, and if we all stopped and captively breed our own, those fishers will likely switch to farming, and stop caring about the river that they took from for years, and the river will become polluted with agriculural runoff and kill everything, like what happened to the red tailed shark. It's extinct in the wild now, and only lives in our tanks due to breeding efforts.

>>2096615
People who move from saltwater to freshwater are just butthurt they spent so much money and everything died because they are stupid and fucked up, and lost thousands in livestock. e.g. You

>>2096620
Some facts I've seen though are most imported saltwater fish die from cyanide then the weak die in transport. But harvesting freshwater fish doesn't harm the environment unless overfishing. Most freshwater rivers and lakes are barren. But here's what I don't get. We can keep some endangered animals or extinct fish in aquariums but we can't keep Asian arowana which fish farms are breeding like all fuck these years and still can't get them.

>>2096622
Never had a fish die on me in 10 years butthurt baby

>>2096622
Hold you down with a blade against your throat and force you to eat the fish in your failing aquarium

>>2096625
...that's a good thing, I don't know why you think I'd be butthurt about your thriving reef?
>>2096629
Not failing... And I feel like my clown would make a pretty poor meal.... Tell you what, I'll eat the fish, and you eat the coral, mkay?

>>2096631
*starts pressing blade against throat making you bleed a bit*

>>2096623
>arowana's
ahahaha right? And when I do find them, they cost more then all of my saltwater fish combined. I really want to get a nice one... Have a spare 55g sitting, ready for a little juvenile if I find one cheap.
Most fish are no longer caught with cyanide though, the importers that use fish caught primarily with cyanide have been found and, and people tend to avoid them. Think about it, would a LFS keep buying from the same person if the fish always died in a month or two from cyanide poisoning? Freshwater populations are almost always entirely fished out of their area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg_WDgKcL7s
Neon tetras being fished. The fisherman will stay in this area fishing until there are no schools of neons left in the pond.

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>>2096632
*Grabs rock covered with zoanthids and whacks you across the face*
*hits ground*
*while on ground, stick zoanthid rock in your mouth
tfw your fucked.

>>2096636
I already had you pinned down with a knife. If you made a sudden move you'd be bleeding out of your throat.

>>2096634
I can get silver arowana for 30-45 bucks which isn't to bad. Then the rarer ones go for 80-250 but Asian arowana is what I want and are doing great at Indian fish farms but they refuse to help replenish the wild populations. But then if they did those fucking Asians would fish them right up. But then at the same time they can do amazing things.

If I ever start a saltwater aquarium I'm going to stock it with mollies.

>>2096644
And guppies

>>2096639
So I take you down with me. Although the cut to the throat is by far the better death than palytoxin

>>2096668
Good luck moving after I cut some tendons :)

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>>2096631
Well that escalated quickly

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>>2096714
This one hasn't hit bump limit yet. Well mover there after.

>>2096439
very tropical

>>2096714
There was already a new one up.

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>>2096615
I don't know why you belive that saltwater aquarist are elitist. Sure when it comes to water chemistry and live stock expense, but a basic marine tank isn't really any different then a FW tank.

In fact I would say keeping a fully planted tank with true plants is far harderby order magnitude then growing corals especially if you're balancing the needs of fish over plants.

Also it's pretty shitty to assume people who run marine tanks are trying to impress anyone. I do it becuase I think it's awsome to grow corals and buy/sell trade them. I even make somewhat of living servicing big marine tanks.

>>2096744
Glad there are others on here doing saltwater.

I didn't realise there was even contention here. I'm starting up my first tank as saltwater, because I was more interested in understanding marine ecology and because at my initial research it seemed like you could get more types of inverts in a marine tank, like crabs, starfish and stuff. Freshwater just seemed to be fish and shrimp. That may be not true, but I'm already on the saltwater path and it is fun so far.


My nitrites are finally dropping in my cycle after 2 weeks of no chance. almost 24 hours since they were reading off the chart and now they've plummeted to 0.5ppm. Ammonia went from 4ppm to zero overnight two days ago. So close now to finishing the cycle, I'm sick of the cloudy brown water.

>>2096744
Both require puntual WC and daily dosing, i dont see the difference anyways

One of my glowlight tetras is quite pale and he's breathing faster than the rest. The others' mouth closes between each breath, his doesn't, almost like he's got something stuck in there. (I don't think he does though.) The others are vibrant and normal. As I write this, he's up at the top of the tank.

What can I do?

:(

>>2096759
Forgot to add that I did a water change yesterday.

>>2096760
Pretty high mortality rate to be honest. Expect the worse but do you have enough surface movement?

>>2096759

Sounds natural. Most humane thing to do would be to put it out of misery. You can pour ice cold water over it to kill it instantly.

>>2096764
What is it? I have a Whisper filter, so it's somewhat gentle, but I can turn it up. It doesn't create bubbles in the water, but I could take some water out which will make a small waterfall.

He's joined the rest of them and has more color but still quite pale.

>>2096756
I would consider adding some turbos and margarita snails pretty soon. Suck as much of that cyano/diatom shit as well as any detritus. You don't want any of it decaying in your tank and causing persistant nitrate problems (frequently clean filter socks and bio balls if you have them for the same reasons).

Also add a little bit of Kalkwasser even if your not keeping corals just help buff the water a bit.

>>2096769
Also I have a crushed clay substrate. Heard mix things. Should I switch to sand?

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>>2096769

I'm not usually keen on snails and so wanted to avoid them if I could and find a different cleanup crew. Anything else that can do the job? However, I did see them at the LFS and they looked pretty nice, can't see much of the slimey parts and just a beautiful shell. Are they likely to breed tons of tiny offspring, though? I don't want to decide I don't like them but have an impossible job of removing them.

My tank's actually remained cyano free since the last massive water change before I put LR in. I got a bit of diatom blooming when I put the LR and sand in but I think the silica reserve is depleted now because they seem to be withering on the live rock. I've got other clumpy brown goo sitting on the sand bed though that I'm going to manual remove when I do the post-cycle water change. This cobweb-like stuff (pic related) started growing on the sand/LR after I did my first fishfood dump to spike the ammonia levels, which is what I believe has turned into the clumpy brown stuff when I disturbed the water a bit last week. Do you know what it is?

I've got a canister filter now if that can be put to good use soon, btw.

>>2096756
>I didn't realise there was even contention here.
it's just banter.

>>2096778
Up ton you honesty some people swear by bare bottom tank or Deep sandbeds. You might have a higher silicates and iron issue with the clay bottom but it's really up to looks. I personally keep a normal sand bed and a small refugium with a DSB for pods and bethnic life. As for snails, you could go for hermit crabs but honestly crabs kinda suck in comparison to snails when it comes to the job of cleaning algae. At worst they can become predatory to other snails and inverts.

Cobweb stuff can either be fungi from decaying organic matter on the rocks or the mucous strans of certain worms that lI've on the rocks. Most likey some kinda fungus.

Canister filters are good but you should if you can plum a sump and use the canister as a carbon/bio ball whatever reactor in the sump. I notice that marine tanks with canisters tend to have low pH issues.

>>2096779
looks like fungus.

could be bacteria or cyanobacteria though.

>>2096789
On the substrate topic, I got a job to setup a 10k gallon natural species tank from the Chesapeake. What would be a good bottom material that wouldn't fuck up the water column but also match the bottom? Muddy bottoms that can cloud the tank would be a problem.

>>2096792
try cobbles or smooth gravel.

If that's going to be a problem for detritus I'd probably do a fake mud bottom using foam and paint or some such thing. Maybe colored concrete sculpted to look like channel mud.

>>2096603
This.

Nobody gives a shit that you have a dead end job cleaning fish tanks you will never own

>>2096779
Holy shit you sound so retarded it hurts

>>2096812

Explain the retarded bits, I'm happy to learn. This is literally my first aquarium.

>>2095671
basic tips? quit while you can before you're stuck being the only one in the store who gives a shit. coming from a current full time aquatics specialist at a petco. otherwise, I found a lot of my job involves telling people what fish they can't put with their goldfish and/or betta, aka, most of them. get ready for a lot of "look, nemo! and dory!" from children. oh, and learn to despise carnival season, tons of people with goldfish that think they can live forever in a bowl (protip: they can't). also, fuck corporate retailers, especially in terms of animal care. petco is vastly better than petsmart from what i've understood, but it's still a giant load of shit. if you find yourself truly interested in fishkeeping, find an independent shop where people share your passion.

>>2094217

Ive always kept marine (saltwater) tanks and tropical tanks usually underwhelm me but this is a really sweet tank im genuinely impressed

I always think tropical setups looks dank and dark compared to mine but this is really bright aswell

10/10 man seriously

>>2094413

goldifsh are literally carp

they get really fucking huge in a few years, id be careful with them

>>2096231

that tank seems a little small man