Coyote Appreciation Thread?

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^ A few to start the thread off with

Love them. People whine too much about coyotes near cities. Waah coyote attacked muh dog waaah i thought it was going to steal my baby right out of the stroller wah. Etc.

The local coyotes have severely impacted the turkey population on Cape Anne this year. Which will have a hard time recovering because turkeys don't often cross the Annisquam River to get here.

>>2001781
I think this is a silver fox

yea more vermin circle jerk.

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>>2001790
Yeah there's a lot of hysteria about coyotes going after pets but it isn't nearly as common as people seem to think. And it's easily preventable by not leaving small animals (cats, small dogs, etc.) unattended outside.

It isn't the coyote's fault for attacking your small pet if you left it alone outside in an area known for having predators.

>>2001837
I don't think so, but you might be right.

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Most of the images of black coyotes I see are of dead (hunted) animals. Here's one of the few good pics of a live one.

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>>2002016
And another.

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>>2002281

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qts

>>2001781
>>2001837
>>2002010
It's not a fox, it is in fact a black coyote.

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>>2002405
That's what I thought.

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Why such little love for 'yotes?

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I don't have pitchers because they're awfully elusive, but I have some other nice items of OC I think.

https://clyp.it/jkqfuqyp
https://clyp.it/ea3bffml
https://clyp.it/pxtxxvzu

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>>2003778
Holy shit anon, awesome. Thanks for sharing! Where did you record these?

And yeah, pictures of them are hard to get. This is the only picture I've managed to get of a coyote thus far. Blurry, vaguely canine shape with glowy green eyes. Sigh.

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>>2003785
I live in New England (rural MA). The coyotes have been around here my whole life but I finally got some recording gear a couple years ago (I'm an audio engineer professionally but never really took it outdoors before). I have much better sounding now (like pretty much National Geographic quality shit senpai) but ever since my equipment upgrades i haven't been lucky enough to capture the coyote packs. But, these recordings, although a little rough and noisey, are still pretty golden to me.

I love coyotes too. I just don't have any pictures of them. The only thing that I don't like is when people try to get too close to them and get the coyotes comfortable around humans. Not a good combo.

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>>2003787
Very cool stuff. The recordings you shared are definitely awesome--better than most I've heard so it's nice to be able to listen to them.

If you ever get any recordings of them with your new equipment I'd love to hear them!

>>2003958
Thanks man! Will do. Recording season's pretty much over now sadly (mics, batteries, etc don't fare well outside in the cold) but there might still be a chance. The coyotes howl all year so if they get active in the area again I might setup and try to catch them

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>>2003967
>mics, batteries, etc don't fare well outside in the cold
Really? I didn't know that. Huh. I'd have guessed things like that do better in the cold than they would in heat/humidity.

>>2003969
well, batteries lose their charge in the cold (you gotta keep'em warm). condenser mics theoretically would work ok in the cold but condensation is a serious problem with all the gear, so the temperature change going out/in can be tricky. sennheiser makes condenser mics specially designed for outdoor and field recording work and they're easily a couple grand apeice. My mics are like $100 each and I always risk humidity, rain sprinkles, condensation, etc ruining them '~'

Somewhat off-topic to the thread but this recording was done with my nice gear. There's a big difference in quality anon... just which I'd captured 'yotes with it.

https://clyp.it/fxkbhmyg

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>>2003974
>condensation is a serious problem with all the gear, so the temperature change going out/in can be tricky
Ahh, that makes sense. That's unfortunate.

And wow, yeah, that swamp recording is superb! Thanks for sharing. I really love listening to stuff like this.

>>2003975
Thanks man, np. Maybe sometime I'll spam a thread with my recordings

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>>2003976
That would be awesome! I'm sure a lot of people on /an/ would appreciate a thread full of nature recordings, not just me.

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>tfw dingos are mixing with settler dogs and becoming super-dingos
Australia may soon have its own coyotes, thankfully. Dingos just really aren't that cool. They're lean as fuck and quite small. Pic is a pretty common type of hybrid - looks like dingo with some Shepherd and Spitz.

In my city we have a big coyote problem. They've started to eat the neighborhood pets. If I see one, I'll shoot it and make a shirt.

>>2004767
what city?

>>2004767
There are a lot in my county. About five years ago I was running at a park near evening. I took a turn and heard something run past me. I looked and it was a coyote like
>>2001782
I was on a hiking trail in the park. Also, I've seen them in the daytime. There were a lot near my old home. And yes, they ate a lot of small dogs kept outside, but the owners should have known better.

>>2004768

Decatur, AL

You can literally see them outside K Mart

>>2004449
Let's hope they don't get rabies running rampant through them. It'll be like America when wild packs of dogs were an actual threat in some areas.

>>2004786
They're not that aggressive. I live in cook county outside of chicago. There are plenty in the local forest preserve. I've ran into large groups about a dozen in size, though they don't normally do that and I mostly saw their eyes reflecting off my bike light. They just looked at me and started moving away.

I've crossed paths with them in the daylight as well. That's when they bolt. Only happens in the spring and fall for me though.

I wouldn't bother worrying about them. They'll take an unattended small pet for sure. They took out an old German Shepherd a few years back as well, but the old lady kept it chained in her backyard with no fence. Of course it was a target for hungry 'yotes.

>>2003386
The more I look at these pictures the more they resemble my dog. He looks like a cross between a border collie and a coyote. I think that's normal for blue heelers though.

He makes weird as fug noises and can't bark. Has giant bat ears. Thick wiry coat. Thin long face. Strong musculature for a less than year old dog. He was rescued off the streets as a 2 month old puppy with his brothers, rooting through garbage. The similarities are startling.

Are they a type of wolf or a big fox?

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>>2004926
coyotes are currenly more closely related to wolves (the ancestor to all canines) than they are to foxes, which are the result of more numerous branchings. in a couple hundred thousand years or more that might change tho

>tfw live in small bumpkin town that isn't quite small enough to be country but everyone pretends to be
>town facebook page is riddled with "wahhh coyotes are such a pest, coyote dun stole my chicken/cat/rat dog


not to mention coyote hunters seem to be the worst kind of hunter. I don't dislike hunters, I would hunt given the opportunity to, but coyote hunters seem to have this weird obsession with shooting as many as possible and making it seem like coyotes are literally in your backyard eating your cocker spaniels.

not to mention how many of them shoot wolves and say "hurrrr i thoughts it wuz a coyote!"

>>2004798
Chicago too.

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>>2004949
lol every coyote hunter think they're quint

>>2002287
Holy crap nice picture! Wild animal with a wide angle lens is a tough thing to capture. You have to be so close.

>>2001777
True men don't kill coyotes.

>>2003778
>>2003967
That's fucking neato. I'd be really interested in listening to your recordings.

>>2004949

Coyote hunters are scum bags. I've literally never meet one that wasn't an asshole.

>>2005068
True men kill them and sell the pelts

>>2004832
He could be a coydog, but they are very uncommon. Can you share a picture? I'd love to see him.

>>2004949
Sounds like you're describing my city. It's pretty much the same here.

And I agree about the coyote hunter thing. There's a rampant attitude of "the only good coyote is a dead coyote." And they take it to a level of obsession that's quite frankly disconcerting, getting into circle jerks not only about killing them, but also about hurting them/killing them in intentionally cruel ways. I'm sure there are coyote hunters who are not like this and actually respect the animals but it sure isn't the norm.

SERIOUSLY???

COYOTES ARE THE CANCER OF THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES!

Coyotes are one of the only animals in the country that we kill-on-sight.

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This 'yote's clearly had a rough life.

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>>2005180
This one has such interesting coloring.

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>>2005182

>>2004818
No rabies in Australia.

>>2005336
yeah we'll see how long that lasts with all these refugees waltzing in >:|

>>2005338
Niggers and their nigger pets and nigger diseases need to stay the fuck out of this country.

We've got a good thing going re: wildlife and it's already under too much stress. Bringing in a bunch of goatfuckers isn't going to help :(

>>2005340
>living in a colonial state
But anon, you are the niggers.

>>2005341
Agreed. Colonisation must have been awful. All those settlers bursting into the Aboriginals' nothing, and leaving behind entire schools, parks, and hospitals.

>>2005345
>nothing
Yes, this is what the colonial dscourse actually teaches. Pls try to read up a bit on australian archaeology, though.

>leaving behind entire schools, parks, and hospitals
>b-but, building things makes us the good guys, right?

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>>2005349
>this is what the colonial discourse actually teaches
Point to something, then. Something pre-colonial and valuable.

>muh rock paintings
These are infinitely better preserved, studied, catalogued and understood post-settlement. It's freely admitted that prior to settlers most rock paintings were worn down to nothing in a few years except those in exceptional spots. Only white settlers had the knowledge to preserve these artefacts.

And apart from rock paintings you have literally nothing.

>>2005350
Except now we have both the former and the latter, instead of just the former.

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>>2005080
Thanks friend. I'll make a thread or something sometime soon then!

>>2005352
>preserve these artefacts
Assuming that the paintings are merely "artifacts" to be "preserved", and not parts of aliving traditions. Still, such a wording is a pretty good example of colonial rethoric.
>It belongs in a museum

>And apart from rock paintings you have literally nothing.
No monuments perhaps. The lack of monuments is not the same as a lack of a flourishing culture, though.

>>2005356
>not parts of aliving tradition
That tradition is dead.

>"because settlers killed it"
Because aboriginals overwhelmingly migrated away from their traditional lifestyles to the improved living standards of white society.

The last aboriginal tribe to come in from the outback was in 1984. Nineteen eighty fucking four. That was the first time in their lives they had ever seen a white man, or running water, or a car. Nineteen eighty four. Can you even imagine that? Of course not. We were walking on the fucking moon a decade before these people even knew what plumbing was.

They came, and they had a choice: live with the settlers in this fucking paradise of food and water (in reality it was some shithole outback bullshit town of like 50 people set up for miners or something), or go back out into the middle of fucking nowhere with nothing.

They CHOSE to stay. That is why their culture is dead. Because they don't even fucking want it. They WANT to be like us. They WANT to be settlers too, and have TV and computers and all that bullshit. Yes, at times it was forced upon aboriginals. At times that was manifestly unjust. Yes, they suffered. I won't defend any of that.

But in 1984 a group of aboriginals walked in from the paleolithic era into the digital world, and they stayed, and that says it fucking all.

>a lack of a flourishing culture
How can you pretend that their culture has value when even they don't think it has value?

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>>2005354
If you do start a thread sometime soon, will you link it here so I can be sure to find it?

>>2005798
right-o!

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>>2005839
Thanks mate!

We got two kinds of coyotes in the city I live. The ones that go into neighborhoods and live in a grove next to a graveyard are kinda mangy and ballsy and have been known to harass people. The other ones live in a wildlife reserve that's and are allot bigger but tend to avoid people in general.

>>2005798
>>2005840
Here's the Recording Thread!

>>2006624

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>>2006627
Sweet!

>>2001895
Like you then

>>2005164
True men kill themselves

>>2005172
As usual, the American talking shit

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lookit, coyote apples :3

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>>2011255

I love yotes. In 2009 my job suddenly did not exist with the company folding. Utah and Arizona were offering $50 bounties. Farmers were offering $25 and a local tanner was offering $35 per pelt.

I was making $200-1000 a week just by killing and skinning them.

I don't care what people say, they're nothing but cunning fucks that'll destroy everything you love so I kill em.

Ate one too, its not good at all.

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>>2011313
>they're nothing but cunning fucks that'll destroy everything you love
But that's just biased, anthropomorphic nonsense, anon. They're just animals, doing what they do to survive. No reason to be so vitriolic about it.

>>2011313

>I don't care what people say, they're nothing but cunning fucks that'll destroy everything you love so I kill em

Every study ever done on coyotes proves you wrong, but you're a retard who tried to eat coyote so I'm sure you don't care and will argue.

>>2011356
>>2011370
>regularly kill pet cats and dogs for no reason
>not feral cats and dogs, pet cats and dogs
>you're just being dumb anon
>you're just projecting

Yeah... I've lost a small dog to them and friends lost cats. Don't count that I was walking the dog as a kid when a coyote attacked and killed it. As well as killing and not eating cats. You're right, they're not destroying what I love. Oh man I can't believe I though Coyotes killed for anything but hunger. I see the error of my thinking.

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>>2011412
>getting mad that a predator animal attacks and kills small animals
>gets mad when coyotes do it; doesn't get mad at cats despite them doing the same thing
>upset at coyotes for killing cats
>???

Anon, they're just animals. You make it sound like they are out to get you and have malicious intent behind their actions. Say it with me: they are just animals.

If you live in an area with known predators, don't leave small animals unattended outside. You can't blame the animal for being opportunistic and taking advantage of your poor judgment.

As for getting mad when they kill something and don't eat it, consider logically other reasons why they might do this. Perhaps they were being territorial. Perhaps they felt threatened by another animal. Perhaps they intended to eat their kill, but got scared off before getting the chance. Perhaps they killed it and intended to eat it later. Perhaps they were just acting on base prey drive. "Killing for sport" is a human concept. It's just silly to apply it to a coyote.

As for incidents like what you mention with your dog, those are relatively rare. Attacks by domestic dogs on children/small dogs are far more common, but you don't see people jumping up and down about how dogs are horrible creatures. They're just animals.

they are beautiful but i am glad they are not around in urub

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI

>They're mean they kill pets.
it's pretty much the same thing as a dog and does dog stuff.

We don't have coyotes here, what are they?
Looks like a dog fucked a fox or something, can they be domesticated?

>>2012962
close relative of wolf, interfertile with wolves and dogs. very solitary, mostly scavengers, so not very fit for domestication. they're expanding rapidly across north america (good at rummaging through garbage in human settlements, eating rats/pigeons/cats).

>>2013139
>interfertile with wolves and dogs.
well that's wrong.

>>2013139
not entirely infertile, coywolves are a thing

>>2013141
>>2013142
i said interfertile, not infertile, lol.

>>2013145
fug

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>>2012962
Coyotes are a wild canine native to North America. They are more similar to wolves and dogs than they are to foxes.

As for domestication, do you mean domestication or taming? Domestication being the process of selectively breeding for tameness/friendliness and compatibility with humans. So yes, theoretically you could domesticate any animal given enough generations and selective breeding.

As for taming (taking a wild animal and training it to live with and tolerate humans,) yes it can be done to an extent. But they will still be wild animals and have many behaviors/tendencies that aren't suited to life with humans. It won't be like having a dog. Even coyotes raised from pups by humans are skittish and can be destructive, they're INCREDIBLY suspicious/distrustful of strangers or anyone they are not used to--this can lead to fear aggression or more destructiveness due to anxiety, etc. And of course you would not be able to trust them around small animals. So yeah, you can tame them to a degree but they'd still be a handful and not really a good pet like you'd expect from a domesticated dog.

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>>2013139
I wouldn't say they're "very solitary." They don't have close-knit packs like wolves do, but they are social and have loose family units and often socialize with other coyotes. They don't hunt in packs/stick together all the time like wolves do, though. They're mostly solitary hunters/scavengers.

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I grew up on a ranch near the Texas-Oklahoma border and you could hear coyotes going crazy most summer nights. sometimes it even sounded like I was partially surrounded 30 yards out. Luckily they stayed away from the house and immediate surrounding area. except one time in the middle of a snowy winter day they attacked my mom's Jack Russell Chihuahua mix in broad daylight. it was the dead of winter and snow is pretty rare in our area so they must've been desperate. it was a close call but unfortunately they didn't finish the job and that bitch is still alive 11 years later!

our coyotes weren't as good looking as most of the ones in this thread though. they looked more like pic related but a bit more raggedy.

the next time I'm out there I'll try to get a few pictures or video so I can give you guys another blog post.

>>2013205
Cool, I'd love to see some OC.

And yeah, there's a lot of variation of how coyotes look based on region. It's pretty interesting.

>>2001777
I fucking hate coyotes.

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>>2013386
That's cool, bro

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Wow now that I've read through some of this thread I'm glad I'm not alone with this whole "live in the country so coyotes are automatically demon creatures that will kill everything you hold dear" jerkfest. I've lived out in this part of Ohio for over 11 years and I've only seen a living coyote twice, and one time it was only eyeshine from a flashlight.

I try to explain to people that a coyote is only like the size of a medium dog and that they're usually terrified of humans, but nobody has any of it. The only livestock people have around here are cattle and horses, and I promise you that a scraggly little pack of 5 coyotes won't even attempt to fuck with a horse or cow, unless there's a newborn. We have chickens at my house, and the only thing that's fucked with them is a god damned raccoon. They might take people's cats every once in a while, but it's your own fault for keeping your cat outside in the first place.

People just shoot the poor things and leave them there. I found one carcass across from my neighbors house once with a bullet hole in its hip, it was a juvenile from what I could tell, only just bigger than a large fox. This motherfucker must have shot it because he thought it would bother his horses? That's amazing considering he got the horses impounded for abusing them care-wise about two or three months ago.

I hate these ignorant bumfucks, coyotes are bretty cool creatures.

>>2014230
We don't have coyotes where I live, but I'll never understand why people get so emotionally upset about carnivorous animals. It's like they think they're actively malevolent and kill things because they want to hurt you.
And I get why you'd be upset if a coyote/bear/wolf/whatever killed your pet, but I don't understand why people get emotional about dead livestock. "oh no this animal that has no name that I was going to kill... died. two months before it was going to die anyway"
I can't wrap my head around it.

>>2014231
Probably because raising livestock it's expensive and they need their stock to survive in order to make a living.

>>2014357

But 1) livestock loss to predators is very low and 2) you should be expecting and accounting for it anyways. Most ranchers just go full retard though, and live in a paranoid schizophrenic delusions that COYOTES GONNA RUN ME OUT OF BUSINESS THE BLOODTHIRSTY BASTARDS. Shit, it's been proven that half of all "coyote loss" wasn't even due to coyotes, the cow just keeled over naturally and coyotes came to scavenge the carcass, but try telling that to a hick retard.

I live in a area with a good number of coyotes and see them around although havent gotten too close to them, what should I do if I get too close? are they typically aggressive?

>>2014357
Sure, but it's one thing to be bummed about a bit of lost profit, and another thing to get upset at an emotional level

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>>2014230
Yeah, Alabama here and the level of rabid circle jerking about "only good coyote is a dead coyote" is just ridiculous.

>People just shoot the poor things and leave them there. I found one carcass across from my neighbors house once with a bullet hole in its hip, it was a juvenile from what I could tell, only just bigger than a large fox
Man, poor thing. If you're gonna shoot and kill something at least make use of it. Asshole.

>>2014381
No, they're not generally aggressive. They're curious enough that they might stop and look at you from a distance, but they're incredibly shy so if you try to get too close they just bolt off and nope the hell out of there.

If you ever find yourself in the rare occurrence of needing to scare one off for whatever reason (perhaps a coyote who was habituated to humans was getting too close for comfort and you wanted it to leave you alone,) just make yourself look big, be loud and yell, stomp your feet at them, maybe throw something for good measure. As another anon pointed out, they're not big animals--about the same as a medium sized dog. They don't want to fuck with you.

>>2014401
This. Obviously it's upsetting to lose a pet or even livestock to predators but getting legitimately upset at them for doing what they naturally do is just absurd.

>>2014371
>>2014401
Sorry, I didn't read the thread so it looks like I missed some context. I thought you guys didn't understand how losing livestock to coyotes was upsetting. Didn't
realize ranchers got so emotional about it.

kai-yo-tee

or

kai-yoat

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>>2014561
kai-odie

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>>2014561
It's the first one, but people pronounce it the second way sometimes too. Sometimes just "yote" (yoat) as well.

So I'm out walking my Rottweiler whose a sweet girl but fucking dumb as a sack of bricks and a Coyote comes running down the street. It ignores us and my girl is just too busy sniffing some grass to even notice.

Then someone who is driving down the street drives up to me and rolls down their window and goes "IS THAT A WOLF" and points to the Coyote.

A wolf. In suburban California. A few miles away from Los Angeles.

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>>2014612
kek

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I love coyotes, it gives me a reason to go out with a gun apart from the deer/moose season, for the rest of the year.

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I feel like this would make a good painting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g6SsyRajNg
What do you guys think about this?

>kind of like coyotes
>live in cowboy land where everyone shoots them on sight because they are all ranchers worried they'll eat their shit

>>2003778
listening to your recordings while scrolling through this thread is extremely comfy
thank you anon

>>2011412
>implying cats don't fuck up shit much more than coyotes
fuck cats those motherfuckers will destroy for the sake of destruction and we're all supposed to let them because stupid people buy pet cats and let them do whatever the fuck they want. I hope those cats suffered

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Coyotes are kind of assholes. Just sayin'.

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This one is just plain rude.

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Spotted this coyote the other night and got a semi-decent picture (better than I've ever been able to get before.) She was a curious thing and stopped to look at me after crossing the road in front of the car before she trotted off through the field.

>>2019283
>semi-decent picture
are you blind or retarded?

>>2019305
No need to be mean, anon. I took this with a phone camera, in the dark, while it was raining, at quite a distance, trying to snap it quick before the 'yote ran off.

I know in comparison to existing photos that it's crap. But in comparison to all my previous attempts, this is the clearest shot I've gotten yet.

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this is hilarious

>>2019872

If you were a gopher, it'd be like the Devil's swollen nutsack blocking out the sun as it came to collect your soul.

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I don't get the "only good coyote is a dead coyote" attitude, either. I think that the kind of people who think so are just looking for an excuse to shoot things in the first place, and it's easier to make that excuse and shoot coyotes than to shoot other things.

Pic related gives me hope that that kind of person might change. The coyote in question was raised by a former coyote hunter after being found as a cub after his mother had been shot.

http://wiwildlifeethic.org/2013/02/17/wiley-the-coyote-a-wisconsin-hunters-story-of-love-and-transformation/

I don't think I'd want a pet coyote, though. I'm glad that this one got rescued and is living well with his family, but it sounds like he's an exception to how most coyotes are in captivity.

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>>2020169
Agreed.