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How much did you pay for your dog?

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How much did you pay for your dog?
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all my dogs have been craigslist rescues so: between free and $50 because the guy was nice and I insisted on comping him for the crate.
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$0.

My mum rescued her from a neighbor who had already killed her two siblings. He was a cruel man.
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Free. Two unwanted pure breds, don't know about the wired haired german pointer but they payed 200 euro or more for the Lab.
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One I paid 1500 dollars for. A purebred short legged memedog from a reputable breeder.

The other I got for free when my shitty brother in law let his bitch in heat get bred by some random dog. He's a great dog though, luckily. Lab and rottie mix.
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>>1998612

memedog
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>>1998613
qt memedog bro
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>>1998612

lab/rottie
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>>1998614

Thanks. I've had memedogs since back before they were memedogs and they were just anime references.

This one was only 500 dollars but I knew less about finding a good breeder back then.
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>tfw people asking $400 for a pup from an accidental mixed litter on craigslist
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Zero. Family friend raises showdogs and gave him to us because his proportions were "Undesirable."
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my black belgian malinois roxy

she was free. i found her on the freeway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKTBsVKILF8
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$600 from reputable breeder (prices are not so high in this country)
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about $100 or $150 from an ad online from someone who didn't want to take care of him anymore

side note, his old owners won the lottery a year after i bought the dog and then lost it all. kek
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The adoption fee was $80 from the pound. She's the best dog I've ever had.
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>>1998722
shit, the adoption fee here is usually around $400
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>>1998723
It tends to be cheaper in the southern USA and at the city pound vs a private rescue.

She's an adult mixed breed, pups are more expensive.
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>>1998655
I've had breeder friends offer me dogs because they know I'm active in working activities and feed raw. Sadly can't afford the upkeep on a second dog, though.

Regular pups from these breeders range from $2K to $2.5K just depending on stuff like litter size and associated costs. And they still lose money.
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$1900

American Eskimo from an AKC Breeder who felt she was too cream for the show ring.
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>>1998772
You should enter your dog in a show to make her rage.
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850, great breeder, great new friend

no regrets
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I bought my Cane Corso pup for 138 'murican dollars.
She was 6 months old when I bought her from a good byb,because in my country all breeders were shit and I really liked her. I don't regret it,she's very sporty,responsive and temperamentally sound. Not truly up to CC show standard,but I don't care,I'll spay her anyway.
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AWWWWWWWW
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>>1998594

$50

No health problems so far, staying hopeful.
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One free from a shelter, he was a problem dog (lots of aggression issues) that I fixed and after spending all that time fixing him, I didn't want to give him up.

The other was $75 from the same shelter. He was surrendered in bad condition and no one wanted to treat the lyme disease on top of his adoption fee.

Not to say I wouldn't pay top dollar for a well bred animal. But that's the thing; it would have to be a well-bred animal for me to spend a good deal of money into it, not some byb having their shitty dogs fuck.

>>1998640
Niggers are selling fucking moggy kittens here for $100 with absolutely nothing; no spay/neuter, no shots, no vet check, no de-wormer, not even a fucking treat basket to go home with. $100 for someone being a shitty owner.

>>1998723
NY here... Shelter I work at goes $25 for old pit bull type dogs and as high as $350 (usually $300) for small breed puppies.
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Just to adopt? I think the adoption fee was $350.

I've probably spent thousands of dollars on him though. Shitty rescue. Though now that he's healthy, I couldn't ask for a better dog.
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$550 for the GSD
$250 for the Akita
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$500 for the whippet
$1600 for the cockerpoo
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$150 for our dog at the no kill shelter. He is a german shepard/ terrier mix was about to turn 2 when we got him a year ago
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>>1999153
why would you pay so much money for a dog that isn't even a purebred? it's a mutt with a fancy name
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$50 adoption fee, $40 neutering+shots. Got my second dog 5 years later for the same price. Thanks based pound.
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>>1999194
cuz cute
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This adorable pupper was $150 from a rescue group. Came neutered and with shots.

Other dog was $600 from a good breeder who had been doing his thing for over 20 years (I found old newspaper articles about him). Relatively cheap because the breed is common and he is a farmer in a small middle of nowhere town. She came with a microchip, AKC registration, her first shots, and her dewclaws removed.
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>>1999205
Fucckkk 10/10 jelly on that $150 pup, good find
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One bulldog, £2100 the other £2000
Border collie £600.
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two of mine I got from my shitty parents, so nothing. but the adoption fee for the third was 150 before my staff adoption discount, so it was actually 125
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>>1998723
is that from a shelter or rescue? where are you located?

I work at an Oregon shelter and large dogs are 150, small dogs (anything under 25 lbs) 165, and all puppies are 250, but they're fully vetted/licensed and kept in foster until they're 12 weeks. occasionally if we get an EXTREMELY desirable dog (young purebred memedogs like huskies or corgis) we make them "hero dogs" with their adoption fee at 300
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500 € without papers from a family in a village nearby.
some folks drove through half of Germany for a puppy because her father is a good therapy-dog.
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$350 adoption fee. Awesome rescue organization, also. Still in contact with the woman who runs the organization, many of the families who adopted her siblings, and other families who adopted from her as well. Plus my dog is healthy and so well rounded.

10/10 will adopt from again.
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Stole him from a byb who previously gave us a dog that died in a week and promised us a free dog on his next available litter and then wanted us to pay because fuck promises.
>meet up with breeder in a gas station at nighttime
>parents hand me the puppy
>they tell me to go wait in the car while grownups to business
>engrossed in cute puppy, had no idea what a byb was, so happy parents are finally getting me a puppy that won't die
>parents get into car quickly and speed off
>why are we going so fast, dad?
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>>1999403
forgot pic
also price was $200 cash no papers
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Paid 2000 for our Bulldog when first married. He's no longer with us.

Paying 1000 for purebred dog this winter. Reputable breeder and show dog quality. I really want to get into showing dogs and she's willing to show me the ropes

>TFW I work from home so I have way too much time on my hands
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>>1999411
Oh yeah and the pupper we are getting this winter is a Dachshund because my wife wanted a chihuahua and I said fuck no so we negotiated and decided on a Dachshund. My grandparents had a Dachshund growing up so wife hit a nostalgic spot in my heart so I agreed. Miss my Bulldog though, but any other breed will have less health problems than that fucker did.
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$80.

Best dog ever. Pretty much an extension of me. Thank god he'll live 20 years cause I have no idea what I'm going to do without him.
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>rescue dog from romania

Free. Fostered her for a bit and decided to keep her.

>bichon frise

£600

>Yorkshire terrier

£1000
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>>1999441
Here's the gypsy bitch
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Boxer was $200 from a breed specific rescue. Beagle came from animal control, and was $75 with the cost of the neutering (I think he would have been $30-40 otherwise).
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/an/, you have some goddamn adorable dogs.
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>>1998613
memedoge*
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You know, not to point out your faults or anything but for the fuss /an/ throws if some poster isn't getting their dog from either a shelter or reputable breeder that costs 1000+ dollars, a lot of people here own byb dogs. Even people here who paid an assload for some stupid mixed breed from a byb.

It's goddamn mutiny if someone talks about buying some cheap paperless dog but you all seem to be happy with yours.
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$1100

Her parents both scored highly on their hunting trials.
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$2000

that's with shipping and everything
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>>1999469
My shepherd wasn't actually that cheap for location and time, but I scaled the price to current USD. (I am not actually from the USA, and I got him way back when in 2008, but I'm not going to do those sorts of conversions.) He has papers out the ears. Hip/elbows for both parents, complete pedigree going back five generations, three Schutzhund titled dogs in recent ancestry, plus a handful of dogs with other titles that I don't recognize myself.
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>>1998601
>>1998603
>>1998606
Since this is /an/ someone should mention that you should tell the CListers who offer dogs for free to stop doing that and charge a token $25.

That's the profit margin on a dog adopted from CL for free then sold to a lab to be tortured to death.
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Bad picture but this fella was a rescue. He belonged to a shitty lady that never spayed or neutered her pets, she just let them mate all day long and the threw them out side for others to deal with. He is a sweet dog.
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300
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>>1998594
$100
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CAD$2200, with breeding rights. Show dog quality.
Pekoe at 12 weeks. Now 13 weeks
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Got her free, cause I breed Sheppards. No hip dysplasia in either family line, and mothers side is of world record holding lineage (great great grandfather was a show dog). They're worth $3000+ but we sell them for 800 males 1000 female +200 breeding rights cause shepherds are the best dog and everyone should have one. Just had a new litter a week or so ago, so I get to play with some pups in a few weeks, which is a plus
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>>1999469
Those assholes ruin this board. Can't even have an open and helpful discussion without some dipshit writing a smart ass comment like "congrats on your byb! Which is why you're having those problems to begin with!".
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>>1999474
Breed?
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>>1999866
German Wirehair Pointer. Registered through the VDD. Her baseline hunting trials start next April.
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>>1999855

'Fair nuff. Obviously everyone here is enjoying their byb dog anyhow. Fucking lying assholes.
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>>1999474

Sweet carpet. Also bad ass dog.
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>>1998594

$0
Got the mutt from someone who just wanted to get rid of them
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>>1999854
what does her back look like?

what are the steps in making them healthy again?

show dogs don't imply healthy dogs in many breeds.
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>>1998594
$280 adoption fee.

She was a from a litter of 6
the guy was going to kill em with a shovel before his neighbor stepped in. He dropped them off at the RSPCA, now have a beagle cross.
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>>1998594

>buying dogs

Ultra kek. Adopting a dog is the best thing you can do, and it's free.

Sure some "adoption centers" will charge you some fees, but they will cover, among other things, vaccines and sterilization, money you'd spend in the same things anyway.
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>>2000603
>Adopting a dog is free
>Sure they will charge you some fees

So in other words, it's not free? Idiot
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He was like thirty euros. Our landlord's father's dog had puppies.
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>>1999855
it's their fault for not educating themselves before getting a dog
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I got my dog from the shelter, and I think I paid around 200$, but that included shots, registration, and some other shit.
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>>2000606
I think he meant that if you did all of the things included in an adoption fee yourself (aka getting a random dog off CL, especially a puppy), it would come out to significantly more than what the adoption fee would be
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>>1999417
>>1999419
Is he an Australian Cattle Dog?
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>>2000615
>dat penis painting in the background
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>>1998594
$50 from a farm

Best decision I ever made.
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$1000 puppy from a nice family of farmers, he's a beautiful cream colored golden retriever. best money I've ever spent, 3 years old now and one of my best friends.
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>>2000642
BYB dogs aren't riddled with behavioural and health problems like you always try to make out you despicable little peta cunt.
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>>2000692
>implying BYBs aren't the biggest cause of pet overpopulation and are the reason purebreds are thought of as having a much shorter and sicklier lifespan

ok m8
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>>2000701
Lmao if you want to argue overpopulation, then registered breeders are just as bad. Try again faggot.
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>>2000701
>>2000902
Also, purebreds having shorter and sicklier lifespans aren't due to BYBs you dumb cunt. That's the result of artificial selection in general. You going to blame BYBs for the bulldog breed and other breeds with a squished face? Daft fuck.
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>>1999395

I'm looking to move to Germany. How hard is it to find a flat that allows dogs?

Also, cute dog mate
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>>1999811
better more recent pic :3
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>>1998594
>2015
>not dognapping

F'in normies
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>>1998594

Too much. He was priced as $800 adoption , but because he had three types of worms and kennel cough I managed $650 or $550 I don't remember. That was 8 years ago. He was a bitcg to fix up. Kennel cough, worms, chest infection, fleas, eye infections..
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>>2000994
Nigga, mine was $200 with just fleas and worms. What the fuck were you thinking?
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>>2000902
>reputable breeders have contracts saying that you will fix the dog once they're 6 months of age and very rarely sell the right to breed them
>BYB doesn't give a shit once you give them the money

try again

>>2000904
>ignoring that reputable breeders only breed dogs that have been health tested generations back for conditions common in their breed
>BYBs breed whatever "looks good" and gets them $$$
>trying this hard to justify shitty breeding and your hurt feels
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>>2001060
>reputable breeders have contracts saying that you will fix the dog once they're 6 months of age and very rarely sell the right to breed them
Not many registered breeders have those contracts, nice try though.

>Ignoring that reputable breeders only breed dogs that have been health tested generations back
Not many do this either lmao. Good job on ignoring how most health conditions are due to lack of genetic diversity. You can advocate all you want about how registered breeders have healthier dogs, it's really an argument with a dead end however considering mutts will always be healthier no matter what shit you spew.

>Is a peta faggot
>Keeps acting like BYB dogs are shit when literally every single byb dog in this thread would say otherwise.
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>>2000982
is that the meme doge?
looks very cute btw
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>>2001042

It wasn't me who technically got him.
I fronted my mom $300 to get a dog from a shelter that I had my eyes on but was out of province for a while. I came back and she said I owed her more because she didn't get that one and got a puppy instead as he'd bond better. She got the dog from a mill closure that went to a foster program.

I love him all the same, even though he was an arm and a leg for a half dead dog. He's a great dog and soundly trained. Walks off leash with me most days, and friendly as hell. He had a real rough start. But he honestly turned out fine. He has a few breed related issues (IBS) and he's starting to get eye issues. He's a schnauzer, poodle, lab, mix and a few vets and the groomers assume he is part beagle.
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>>2001473

All I really remember was my mom said she got a good deal because he was sick and she felt bad. He had an $800 tag on his head like all the dogs from that foster program did. Main reason i wanted her to get the shelter dog instead.
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>>1998594
$700, but he was a beautiful lab-pointer mix and came potty trained.
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>>2001090
Yes. Thanks :3
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>tfw breeder wants $1250 for a lab puppy
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>>2001871
that's not that much for a good quality dog from a decent breeder
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$30 from a rescue.

If you spend a lot money to buy an animal you're a faggot
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>>2002033

>good quality dog with inbred health issues

Lol
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Black purebred Olderhill GSD
Got her for free, should have been about £600

Daily reminder to never buy non-straight backed GSDs.
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I paid 3,00$ for a cat. She was my foundation female.

I also spent 50k$ on cancer treatments for my dog.

I regret nothing.
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$0, and he was bought as a pup for $600
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Never paid a cent for the dogs I've owned.
I live in a small town and there's always some dog knocking another dog up somewhere, they basically hand out the puppies for free, it's either that or the shelter.

The downside to this(if you wish to see it like that) is that they are never pure bread memedogs.
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Free, picked him up off the side of the road. He's my good boy and I love him to bits.
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>>1998662

I fucking love her eyes at the end of the video...
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>>1998949

Did you ever consider a harness instead of a collar?
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>>2002519
You stole that dog.
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>>1999226

You know what? Fuck you! I am so fucking furious that some people can spend 2000£ per dog and I can't get 500€ together to buy myself a 1999 Škoda Felicia...

But on the therad related topic; I paid 250€ for a puppy that was supposed to be a Maltese, but now that he's fully grown he's nearly twice the size of my neighbours purebred. But I fucking love him none the less...
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>>2002839
You are furious because other people make better financial decisions than you?
You are furious because other people have things you dont?
Anger is already a waste of an emotion, but what you are doing is just ridiculous.
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Free dog, like others in the thread I found her wandering around as a pup, was probably 5 months old and got separated from her mom.
She's 3 now.

1/2
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>>2002872
2/2
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>>2002873
ah what the heck, here's another
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>>2002837
Yeah,I'll buy one soon. It's much more comfier for hiking and stuff.
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0€, rescued her from a neglecting owner. She supposedly is a hunt dog, but terrified of fireworks and similar sounds, which makes me think that the owner didn't want to keep her around. Still makes my blood boil when I think about that.

Now she's happy and healthy. Most thankful dog ever.
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>>2002034
>>2000603
I really loathe people who buy dogs, I'm usually not that uppity but it just pisses me off and I can't change my mind.

Unless you need a dog for a specific task, what's the point of breeds? I just can't associate this mindset with genuinely loving an animal.

Also talks about "quality" make me shudder.
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>>2003028
>muh shelter babbies
These are fucking animals. You better go vegan with that mindset.
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>>2003029
>These are fucking animals. You better go vegan with that mindset.
Well I'm a vegetarian. I guess you're right, it's a mindset thing.
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>>2002838
Fuck off
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>>2003033
At least you are not a hypocrite, carry on.
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>>2003028
Shelter/rescues cost money as well so what the fuck are you on about?

>What's the point of breeds
Temperaments, looks, health, size etc. You can't dictate peoples choices and preferences.
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>>2003028

i hate to break it to you, but animal husbandry isn't some new-age mumbo jumbo that you can approve or disapprove of. this is a process that humans have been refining for millennia, you can judge the "quality" of an animal's bloodline by a bunch of factors. most pertinent are temperament and healthiness. the biggest thing you are paying for when you buy a bred animal is most pragmatically its genetics. a well-bred animal of high "quality" will be generally healthier and freer of genetic defects than irresponsibly bred animals of the same breed. for people who care about looks, you can also judge fairly objectively the quality of an animal's physical structure/markings according to a breed standard.

the point of breeds is to know what you are getting. a shelter animal may very well have a bunch of things wrong with it down the line which will cost you a bunch of money, in some cases more than you would have paid to purchase a responsibly bred animal in the first place.

you can "loathe" all you want, but at least get educated. not everyone who buys a dog fits neatly within your box of prejudices
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>>2003054

i'd like to add that obviously this doesn't cover all breeds. there are things like pugs and persian cats whose entire raison d'etre is based on irresponsible breeding. there is also obviously the risk of inbreeding depression, but again, responsible breeders will account for this and outbreed if/when it becomes necessary.
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>>2003057

You can't outbreed unhealthy breeds though.

There's no such thing as a healthy pug.
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>>2003060

this is true. unhealthiness is a breed standard for pugs, which is obviously pretty reprehensible.
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>>2000982
Jesus fucking christ. I'm against buying dogs and all that jazz but holy shit I really need to get myself a shiba inu. How's their temperament? Weird question but how soft is their fur? Beautiful dog by the way and adorable name
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>>2003054
You don't buy a breed for it's healthiness tard. If you're going for healthiness then get a fucking mutt. Can't wait for you to ignore this post too because you know i'm right.
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>>2003119

i'm going to reply because you asked me to, but i'm not actually going to address anything you said because i already wrote everything i would have said to you.

mutts being ironclad genetic goliaths is a myth. i would like to invite you to use your mind and actively consider new information instead of throwing names around like a kid while you default to whatever it is that you've read/heard
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>>2003121
Genetic diversity, basic evolutionary science. Look it up kid.
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>>2003124

do you ever read or do you enter every thread trying to assert yourself as the big man without actually knowing what you're talking about?

like i said, genetic diversity can be introduced reponsibly via outbreeding. when properly managed, a responsibly bred bloodline can be healthier than the average of the species as a whole. YOU can go look up "basic evolutionary science" and put two and two together if you want to, or continue being wrong. no skin off my ass
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>>2003130
>Healthier than the average of the species
Except when comparing purebreds to mutts, it makes sense to compare the species as a whole. There goes your argument down the shitter. FYI, responsible breeding does not only apply to purebreds.
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>>2003133
>Except when comparing purebreds to mutts, it makes sense to compare the species as a whole

i think you are actually retarded

>FYI, responsible breeding does not only apply to purebreds.

if you actually understood anything i was saying you would know that this is a completely irrelevant point. but thanks for the "FYI"
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>>2003136
It is relevant because this discussion is extending from previous ones that you chose to ignore son. Feel free to respond to this post >>2001088 if you'd like an update.

With that being said, mutts being genetically superior is not a myth, because your average mutt will most of the time be healthier than your average purebred, which is why most experts recommend them. You comparing a small minority of purebreds from r.breeders to your average mutt makes you the retarded one.
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>>2003139

when did i ever try to defend irresponsible breeding practices? when did i ever say that an irresponsibly bred dog would be healthier than a mutt?

you're absolutely right that a poorly bred "purebred" dog is at a higher risk for health problems than your average mutt (which itself is not exactly guaranteed problem-free), and you're right that a lot of people will recommend mutts over BYB's because most people cannot be assed to do their research, ask the right questions, and be thorough in their selection of a breeder.

in no case is any of this contradictory of my (factually correct) statement that a responsibly bred dog from a well-managed bloodline will be healthier than the AVERAGE OF THE SPECIES AS A WHOLE, INCLUDING MUTTS.

>mutts will always be healthier no matter what shit you spew

this is WRONG, and you can keep believing it if you want, but you shouldn't try to assert that it's true from a position of feigned expertise. you are propagating the spread of INCORRECT INFORMATION just so you can get your kicks pretending to be smarter than people on the internet. it's completely egotistical and self-serving and you should feel bad about it
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>>2003145
You never defended irresponsible breeding, but you sure as hell had no problem labelling most dogs in this thread a result of irresponsible breeding, to the point where a lot of anons here can pick your posts apart because you are so transparent.

>Puppy under 6 months of age? BYB scum!!!
>Mutt? BYB scum!!!
>Behavioural problems? BYB scum!!!
>Costs less than $1000? BYB scum!!!

And okay, you are correct about the benefits of an actual reputable breeder that controls and manages all these differing factors. But let me ask you, how common are these breeders? How easily accessible are they? You can't call people uneducated for buying a companion from anywhere other than these breeders you keep advocating.
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>>2003149

i'm not who you think i am. i have four posts in this thread. i don't know anything about the breeders of anyones' dogs in this thread, nor would i pretend to be able to. appearance is obviously the lowest hanging fruit in the world of husbandry, and obviously the drawbacks of pursuing it at expense many times aren't immediately visible.

i don't have figures for how many breeders actually care about their bloodlines versus the mills and BYB's, but they're probably in the minority. that said, you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater -- telling people that they should under no circumstance buy a well-bred dog from a responsible breeder is a huge disservice to the (admitted minority) who put tons of heart, effort, and love into what they do with their animals.

i think it's perfectly okay to warn people (at length) about the risks of irresponsible breeding, and it's perfectly okay to let them know that mutts are a more than acceptable alternative. but it's also important to note that there ARE really good people who put a ton of effort into breeding animals, and that even if they're harder to find or have a waiting list (this is a really good sign actually), it IS worth it because you can rest just a little bit more easily knowing you did the absolute best you could in selecting for a companion which was cared for from before it was born the same way you care for it.
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>>2003155

and for the record, i have both a rescue dog and a purebred cat, so i'm not trying to preach from an ivory tower. i personally think it is really cool when people adopt animals who would otherwise be killed and would never want to discourage it. buying from a breeder and rescuing never have to be mutually exclusive
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$1000 (Canadian) for my Goldendoodle.
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Here is my husky mix, I got him from the shelter for an adoption fee of about $200, he's a high maintenance, high energy dog. I have had him for 3 years now and I still don't know what all he is mixed with other than husky.
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>>2003155
>>2003158
If you're not the same person then my bad. Otherwise, everything else you said is correct.
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>>1998594
350
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>paying for a dog
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>>2003145

Sorry, you're wrong. Mutts are by definition healthier.

A pure breed dog bred for looks by definition can not be healthier than a mutt because you're not forcing the mutt to have a certain appearance.

> statement that a responsibly bred dog from a well-managed bloodline will be healthier than the...

No it won't. A responsibly bred pug/sausage dog/german shep with a sloped back/lab/corgi etc etc etc ARE NOT HEALTHY. They all have issues, no matter how "responsible" you are.
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>>2003207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCv10_WvGxo
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>>2002519
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he was lost lol
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>>2003207

these are dogs who are by definition irresponsibly bred. the responsible thing to do would obviously be to breed out the pugs' breathing difficulties, the corgi's stunted legs, etc. i'm not sure what your point is.
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>>2003119
>impying by breeding two dogs with unknown genes will give a healthy dog
Go kill yourself.
You won't get a healthy dog if you don't know complete dog genes. That's why you use culling (by spaying/neutering ofc)
Even in mutts if dogs are fuck ups you get puppy mutt fuck ups.

Nigger.
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>>2003207
So a puppy from a long line of working collies, isn't as healthy as the boxer x staff in the local shelter?
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>>1998606
wtf happened that this wire haired pointer was homeless? They're super responsible with who they give them to, my uncle had to jump through hoops to get a decent gun dog from that line.
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>>2003334
>He doesn't know that it's common knowledge for mutts to generally be healthier than purebreds

Go do your research before using your grubby little fingers to type such cancer you faggot.
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>>2002839
Don't get jealous man, just get your shit together you poor eurofag.
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>>2003345
It's common "knowledge" but it's not actually true, it's just the popular myth spread around.

There are healthy mutts and unhealthy mutts, and healthy purebreds and unhealthy purebreds. It just depends on the health/robustness of the genetics of the parents.

If you take two unhealthy dogs of different breeds and they have pups, the pups will be unhealthy too. If you take two unhealthy purebreds and they have pups, the pups will be unhealthy too. Inbreeding can also contribute to creating dogs with poor health. That said, responsible breeders do rigorous health testing and only breed healthy animals, and avoid inbreeding. So there are absolutely lots of healthy purebreds. And healthy mutts that are composited of these healthy purebreds, or other healthy mutts, etc.

Essentially, there's nothing about purebreds or mutts that makes one inherently healthier than the other.
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>>2003028
You're a faggot. I'm well educated, have sufficient money and I'm responsible enough to own just about anything. I'm old enough to have my own children, and I look at women thinking I would/wouldn't want her to mother my child.
So why then, would I choose a dog to become a part of my family without considering its aesthetics, it's proposed health and fitness and the temperament and intelligence of its parents?
As a sophisticated man I want a sophisticated dog, one that is obedient by nature, who's lineage is known to respond to one owner. This leaves me with a handful of breeds, of shepherding and hunting dogs, I rule out hunting because that's not the drive I want, so I'm left with herding dogs, commonly available in my country and area because I hate the idea of shipping a dog. Iam left with GSD (too large) old English sheepdog (too much hair) or a collie, within the time frame I found two reputable agility breeders with border collie litters and decided on the one with the most successful parents and grandparents.
Now I'm not a sheep farmer, I don't need this specific breed for a specific task but can you understand my reasoning? Breeds of dogs and information about them helped me decide on the dog that was best for me. I can't trust a shelter to tell me the truth about a dog as it doesn't have papers, I also don't want a dog someone decided to give up.
I hope you cringe yourself to death when I tell you, through proper research and with my purchasing power I have a high QUALITY dog who's lineage ensures any issues she has are my fault and I an correct them.
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>>2003119
Chihuahua cross pug, mutt... Will have more health issues than a purebred.
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>>2003355
>>2003360
You're talking about specifics. GENERALLY speaking, yes mutts are healthier. Take two healthy purebreds and two healthy mutts, most likely the mutts will have healthier offspring due to greater genetic diversity.
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>>2003345
>common knowledge
aka. common myths.

That's like saying a pug mix and a gsd mix will give almighty ohhh beautifuly immortal dog.

But muh genetic diversity!

It means nothing if fucking dom and recessive genes overlap and give dogs shitty health anyway.

>but dey generally healthier
Not really. It all depends,as I said on genetic.

Most mutts are accidents or itentional breeding of pure byb's to get some shit like a "cockapoo" or whatever. Real breeder who does screening won't let his dogs make studs.

And when it comes to healthiest dogs,faggot,I can give my head that the working lines of any breed and their mixes are healthier of any fucking show dog and and any regular mutts.

Also,by your logic,American Bullies,Shortybulls and Exotics (and similar dogs recently crossbred) are the healthiest dogs around.
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>>2003390
Won't let his stud dog make mutts*
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>>2003370
You can't generalise tho, in general a mongrel/mutt is a mix of any established breeds. So a mutt won't be healthier than a purebred if it's just a mix of two shit tier purebreds.
In GENERAL a dog that is mixed with two different breeds of healthy dog will be healthy, possibly healthier if they cancel out their bad traits but it's not a guarantee and the broad term mutt can't just be thrown around like some sort of godly animal.
A feral group of bulldogs won't turn into a pariah dog no matter how many generations it goes through.
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>>2003390
>>2003392
>I can give my head that the working lines of any breed and their mixes are healthier
>working lines of any breed and their mixes
>working breeds and their mixes
Which of the two are most likely to be healthier though?

That's really all that needs to be said. Also, lol at you comparing different standards of dogs. Hey, let me compare a supercar to an economy car and tell you why the super car is better. Kek.
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0$. My grandma has a tendency to get pets and realise shes too old to take care of them.
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>>2003350
>>2002843

It was kind of a joke, because I am still in high school although, even when I get a full time job I can't imagine paying someone 2 grand just because he got 2 dogs to mate...
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>>2003421
What you are paying for is a puppy from parents that have been health tested, have good temperaments, and are good examples of their breed.
I think it is totally worth it. a dog is a 15+ Year commitment. You should put a little work into finding a good breeder and paying more.

People put more effort into finding a decent car (that they will get rid of in 5 years) than a companion animal, and that's a damn shame.
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>>2003425
Yup. I paid £990 for my miniature dachshund. He's pure pedigree so I know the history 5 generations back. The breeder also has him when I'm on holidays and don't charge for it either since she thinks of him as family. She will also have him back if I die (morbid but at least I know he will go somewhere safe).
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>>1998594
AUD$350
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>>2000902
A registered breeder is not a reputable breeder. Pet stores sell registered puppies from registered breeders, the AKC has given actual puppy mills licenses to be registered breeders, and I guess you'd be surprised how many BYBs are registered breeders.

A reputable breeder makes sure the new owners fix their dogs to cease any breeding unless sold to another dog breeding kennel, will always, without question, take their own dogs back, will give advice and help the new owner throughout the dog's life, and have a microchip with a minimum of 2 contacts on them; one for the new dog owner, and one that will actually lead to them.

A responsible, reputable breeder isn't just a registered breeder. In fact, there are great dog breeders that are not registered, and may not be because they do not agree with the dog's standards, like pugs, english bulldogs, basset hounds, etc. Or, they could be trying to form a new breed or out-cross an existing one.

i also think you are cherry picking; obviously everyone on a board about animals in a thread about their dogs is going to say they like their dog. Look at all the shelter, rescue, and reputable breeder dogs that were posted, and people said they also loved them. One thing I notice about BYB dogs is more of them died as puppies, or were noted dying young, ITT (Assuming you want to take this thread and this thread only as evidence).

TL;DR- Registered =/= Responsible
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>>2004196
Based on that notion, the definition of a "reputable" breeder is subjective, therefore all those peta fags with their "hurr durr found the byb" shitposting are retarded for making such assumptions without having entire knowledge of where the dog came from and how it was brought up.

>More of them died as puppies
I bet you're talking about the ONE post where the anons parents had to steal another puppy from the obviously shitty breeder.
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>>1998612
Do you breed Corgis? If not why would you pay so much?
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>>1998594
2500 bucks for a pure race australian shepard in switzerland
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>>2004304
>the definition of a "reputable" breeder is subjective
Not really. To be considered a reputable breeder, a breeder must do certain things-
- health test breeding stock as often as needed
- breed only high quality, champion dogs (conformation, dog sports)
- feed the dogs a high quality diet
- makes sure the pups are 12 weeks or older before going to new homes
- pups are vaccinated and seen by a vet before going to a new home
- pups are sold with spay/neuter contracts
- pups are sold with a health gurenteed (not a replacement policy)
- pups are socialized before going to a new home
- and dog or pup sold by the breeder should be taken back by the breeder if the owners cannot keep the pup/dog.
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$0 My dog just showed up at my door ,walked into my house and sat on my couch. Had her every since.
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>>2004431
Buying a dog in Switzerland ? Jesus christ ... that's more expensive than a trip to the Kuiper Belt
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One is more than none, do you not agree?

Reputable breeder isn't subjective. People just like to pretend they didn't buy from a byb with ideas like 'it only matters as long as they are loved' and 'my dog turned out fine, so it's all good'. It's not as grey as that. Just because people have their own opinions about it, doesn't change what actually makes a breeder reputable.

At the very base, a reputable breeder cares about the well being of their dogs, even after they go out to new owners. This means their health, conformation, whereabouts, training, diet, up-bringing, training, and care. This is why screening takes place, this is why contracts are signed, this is why health tests are done.

Reputable is not subjective. All reputable means is the breeder actually takes the measures to properly screen, breed, and care for their dogs. If you want, I can go over everything a responsible, reputable breeder does, but >>2004477 covers a lot
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>>2004569
meant to quote
>>2004304
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$800 including shipping with Petex
Amazing farmer/breeder. Perfect pupper.
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>>1998724
Your dog looks like my dog!
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This is my rottweiler. She was only 200 euros because dogs in Romania are pretty cheap. The owners were lawyers by day and breeders by night. She's a purebreed and has pedigree.
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>>2004611
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>>2004611
Why do you live in a jungle?
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>>2004617
Lol no I just own a shiload of land and there's trees everywhere around me
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>>2004611
>>2004612
That flooring is hideous.
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>>2004626
Well the house is 100 years old or more. I just got it and I'm working on it little by little but it was pretty expensive in itself and then we had to work on the inside first
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>>2004618
I love it! Can you show is more of your garden/land please ? I would like to be inspired when I have my own piece of green
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>>2004627
What does one do in a 100 year old house ? What Hobbys do you have ?
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>>2004640
For starters I was trying to break through a wall as the basement was much bigger before. Apparentely it was covered up by the communists.

>>2004639
I can't right now bby I'm in london for the week to stay with my sister
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>>2004640
I also have all this shit that gives me more shit. Shit like cucumbers, tomatoes apple and cherry trees and shit like that. I also found boar digging around and was thinking of going all gorrilla warfare on one of them. But then I realised that I don't wanna get impaled by momma boar
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>>2004643
How is London ? Friends want to go there on New years
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>>2004644
Respekt the nature more my friend.
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>>2004639
Btw i found pics from last summer
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>>2004655
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>>2004656
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>>2004653
Pretty shitty. Expensive beer and ugly women. Sad to say this but most of the good looking girls are not even british themselves.

>>2004654
I probably should but after my cherry tree gave me enough cherrys to give to everg familly member and more, it was a really long process turning it all into jam. I still haven't even finished 1/4 of the jam that I kept for myself. I got around 900kg last summer
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>>2004658
>>2004656
>>2004655
Is this all that you own? It's beautiful, your dog must love it there! What's his name ? Any fun stories to share ?
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>>2004662
I am renting out the houses.
The dog is a bitch and her her name is hera. She really does love it, but I had to keep her in the house and only take her out on leash for most of the summer because she had her first period and I didn't want a stray banging her. Plus I heard that the pupps from the first period are messed up and shit, so I had to keep a close eye on her. That was fun :/
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>>2004660
It gave you much more than just 900kg of Cherries. It must be tons and tons of Air it produced during it's life, not to mention animals found home there as they had food and shelter there. It is so much more than just a simple tree. But I talk too much ...
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>>2004666
Never heard of that but it would make sense that the first period isn't the best starting option.

Where are they located? How much you charge?
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>>1999411
>show quality
>hasn't been in a show

Ah huh
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>>1998594
$200
>white
>blue eyes
>had him for 3 days now
>still no name
any ideas?
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>>2004703
I suggest Wons (It's snow backwards)
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>>2004703

stinkhole mccumquat von fluffykins III
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>>2004703
>>2004717
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>>2004703
oh gosh he's precious
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>>2004703
Hope he isn't deaf.
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>>2004729
why?
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>>2004731
Yeah, deaf dogs are pretty cool
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>>2004734
better than blind dogs
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>>2004731
White pit mixes often have issues with hearing or blindness. Google it.
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>>2004770
not a mix
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>>2004770
not albino either.
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>>2004703
What breed and how old is he?
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>>2004793
pitbull terrier
5.5 weeks
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>>2004797
>>2004793
mom got sick so dude had to get rid of the dogs so they'de stop nursing
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>>2004797
>>2004799
That's no excuse. That puppy is WAY too young to be away from mom. Good job encouraging a BYB.
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>>2004801
not my fault. somebody else would have got it if i didnt. i saved it if anything
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>>2004805
You made it easier for a shitty pet owner to be a shitty pet owner. Don't pass the buck, you made the decision to bring the puppy home.
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>>2004809
he's a vet tech. it was a fluke. came with its shots and wormed. not a shitty breeder. the mom is dying. a kid brought a sick gerbil in but let it loose. 3 hrs before anyone knew
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>>2004809
anon, if a child molesta' had a heart attack the doctors would still work to save his life. just because OP was the one there to take care of the pooch doesn't make any of the owner's previous behavior his fault. let's not get all dramatic here.
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415$ for a border collie pupper.

All others were free, got family members several states away that breed almost fucking everything. Cows, horses, bunnies, chickens, parrots, dogs. But not cats.
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>>2004820
some guy told me to buy formula from a tractor company. Its for bulls. ever hear of that before?
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>>2004814
No reputable breeder would rehome 5 week old puppies. You bottle feed and supplement with wet food, before switching them over to solid food.
You're just another idiot that thinks his actions do not effect anyone else.
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>>2004793
Why do you always feel the need to ask how old a puppy every time someone posts?

Oh right, because you felt the need to shitpost
>>2004801
>>2004809
>>2004831
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>>2004477
>>2004569
Who even creates these standards? Unless there are specific laws that enforce these, then yes, the idea of reputable is subjective. Some of those standards are understandable, but you're kidding yourself if you think every reputable breeder conforms to every single one of them.
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>>2004846
It's not shitposting to point out that this pup came from a bad breeder. That is the plain truth.
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>>2004831 who says? is that what wolves do? they get weened into meat? huh, faggot?
i know my actions affect others. my actions affect others in a positive way. the pup is lucky i took it at 5 weeks. it eats hard food nowadays. its a dog its not gay, i dont have to bottle feed it. its only a week early
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>>2004857
>Bad breeder
>Vet tech who had to rehome the puppies ASAP before they catch a foreign illness that could potentially kill them

Get off your high horse
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>>2004855
How many good breeders do you know?
Do you have any experience in dog breeding?
Because any breeder worth their salt does all of these >>2004477 things.
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>>2004861
>my obscure and esoteric definition is the only correct one.
I have bad news for you, buddy.
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>>2004861
kek,
>thinks you must breed champion dogs or are a shit breeder
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>>2004861
I know a few. One even breeds for police dogs while another breeds champion sports dogs. They sure as hell don't do all those things and you're a complete fuckwit if you think they're anything less than reputable.
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>>2004858
Puppies need to stay with their mom until they are 12 weeks old. Eight weeks is the bare bottom minimum. Your BYB couldn't even manage that. And the worst part is you obviously don't have a clue what you are doing otherwise you wouldn't think that 5 weeks is just a week early.
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>>2004864
Breeding dogs should be evaluated by an outside source for soundness and correct structure.
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>>2004477
he hit a few. still a decent breeder
- health test breeding stock as often as needed
- breed only high quality dogs(sorry no champions)
- feed the dogs a high quality diet
- pups are vaccinated and seen by a vet before going to a new home
- pups are sold with a health gurenteed (not a replacement policy)
- pups are socialized before going to a new home
- and dog or pup sold by the breeder should be taken back by the breeder if the owners cannot keep the pup/dog[but you dont get your money back unless its sick or retarded with in 45 days]
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>>2004866
You obviously can't comprehend the puppies situation and the need for him to be rehomed early. No matter what OP says, all that's entering your stupid little mind is "OMG PUPPY GOT REHOMED AT 5 WEEKS!".
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>>2004867
and politicians should be audited by an independent board to determine honesty.

put "should" in one hand and shit in the other and tell me which one fills up faster.
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>>2004872
Rekt, peta fags getting btfo'd
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>>2004866
akc, aspca, ukc, and aclu all say 6 weeks
>you have no idea what youre talking about
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>>2004865
Liar.
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>>2004875
>I got proven wrong so he must be lying
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>>2004870
Actually, I have been in exactly that position. One of my bitches came down with mastitis when she had pups at five weeks old. I bottle fed then weaned the pups. Mom was not allowed to nurse, that was not difficult to achieve.

A good breeder does what is best for the pups, NOT what is easiest for the breeder.
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>>2004874
That's not even close to being true. AKC mandates that pups be with mom until AT LEAST eight weeks old. Breed clubs say 12 weeks. In most states in the US it is illegal to sell a puppy under eight weeks old.
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>>2004881
they were kept in a vets office that was closed down for safety because it was contaminated by some kid bringing an animal with aids or the plague or some shit.what was he supposed to leave 8 pups home?
a good dog breeder does what is best for the pups, which can be different in different situations. you have no life other than breeding. this guy has other animals too. all were sick. shit happens. a bug was going around the office. he gave the pups away to people he trusted. not my fault you know only incompetent people and had to do it yourself. shitbag
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>>2004882
its 100% true. ckc also says 6 weeks. also, you changed it ffrom 12 to 8 weeks. press you a little more and 6 weeks will be ok
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200 because he was an accident, I don't know how much "designer breeds" actually go for, but the pure breed dachshund and the pure breed pomeranian that went into this would've been 2500 each from the breeder.

Has a lot of health problems, mostly alergies, have to get special food
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There is no legal requirement for breeders to keep the pups. It is all subjective. Anyone who says anything different is a retard who has no idea what theyre talking about
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600.

American Akita. Got him cheap because missing a testicle and can't be shown or bred because of it.

Great dog otherwise.
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>>2004887
So you don't even know what "disease" contaminated the vets office? Way to stay on top of things. You are one of the most uninformed pet owners I have ever heard.
Why weren't the pups transfered to another vet? Or another dog breeder, anyone that had some experience with puppies. You don't just dump them on stupid, gulable owners.
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800 for my Aussie, go him from the same breeder as my first. My first lived to be 16, great health, and was super easy to train.
I'll gladly pay the extra over an adopted dog since I know what I'm getting.
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>>2004890
Why the fuck do dachshunds always look so God damn smug
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>>2004930
it's a german thing
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>>2004611

It's great that you didn't dock her tail. I love rotts au naturel.
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>>2004805

Regardless of the circumstances, you're going to need to socialize and train the shit out of that pup. They're missing a critical developmental stage (learning dog boundaries from the mother and littermates) and as a result they're at extra high risk of developing severe separation anxiety.
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>>2004308

That's how much it cost to get one from a non byb breeder. I wanted health checks on the parents and to get from a breeder who was careful about who they sold dogs to. My first corgi I got for a third of the price and I loved her very much but unbeknownst to me (because I didn't know the difference 14 years ago) I got her from a byb and she was poorly bred and had bad arthritis from an early age.

But my dog is "show quality" if you can say that about a dog who has never been shown. But it would have been 2100 if I had wanted breeding rights. She's just a pet though.

But I just wanted a purebred dog of the type I wanted but not to contribute to shitty breeders. 1500 is not a lot of money at all if you consider it a 10-15 year investment. I spent way way more on my byb corgis chronic arthritis than that. I wouldn't say everyone should spend that much or not but I've been very happy with the decision.
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>>2004890
They're usually 1500 or so, you got a great deal, presumably because the breeder didn't have the papers to sell "official" dameranians
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>>2004930
You would be too if all you had to do to get food and attention is look stupid. They know their owners are being taken
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>>2004907
Puppies aren't that hard to take care of you fucking mong
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>>2004952
The fuck you say bitch
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>>2004938
I had a byb jack russell that lived up until 16 years. Shit happens, sometimes it doesn't.
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No dog general thread?

I'll post this here.

My puppy doesn't like his kibble anymore. Won't eat it, or he'll get half way if he's hungry then walk off. He loves peanut butter though, how unhealthy would it be if i mixed a tad bit of peanut butter in his kibble?
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>>2004961
There is one tho, on mobile so I can't be arsed to redirect but search /dog/
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>>2004969
Oh didn't notice the new thread. Thanks senpai.
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He was free :)
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>>2004935
yea, he cries any time he is not being held. how do you help it?
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>>2004791
Does not need to be a true albino. Lack of pigment in the inner ear hairs cause hearing issues including deafness

>$200 for a dog that cost maybe $50 to actually birth and rear
>$200 for a puppy that you took to 'help out'
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>>2004855
Who decides why taking care of animals are good? Well, I suppose that is subjective because there are people who hate animals. Who decides what makes an animal healthy? That is up to medical sciences.

I'm sorry you're too arrogant to ever reform your views, anon. But taking the proper measures to make sure they create healthy animals and make sure they will always be well cared for is what makes a good breeder a good breeder. You can go buy your puppy mill puppies all you want; they won't be getting shut down any time soon.
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>>2004865
Can you give websites to any? Link the breeder of those police dogs?

>>2004888
8 weeks is the legal minimum (or until done weaning, whichever happens last) in the US. I think anon is saying that 12 weeks is preferred. But under 8 weeks and it becomes actual animal cruelty to sell an animal.

>>2004894
If you sign a legally binding document it becomes legally binding

>>2004805
What gets me is that you paid quite a sum to take this dog off someone's hands... Even if it was to save it's life, the transfer of money there made it illegal. It's one thing if you fostered the pup and then decided to adopt it later. But buying it at 5 weeks is illegal and therefore frowned upon.
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>>2005032

>he cries any time he is not being held. how do you help it?

I wish I could help you but I don't have any experience concerning puppies with mommy issues. I'd call a trainer if I were you. If you live near a university with a vet school they usually have behavioral consultations on the cheap.
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I adopted a coonhound from the pound after months of trying to adopt a little dog. Errybody wants little dogs for obvious reasons.

He was very aggressive and I got bit multiple times trying to train him to behave better.

Sent it back to the pound. Had to threaten I was going to release it on a highway for them to take it back because the pound knew he was shitty and returned before.

Spent $300 on a chihuahua puppy. I should have paid at least $500 because I got a counterfeit rip off rat terrier trying to pass as chihuahua.

Hyper but ok. He is slowly learning. Still way better than the pound monster I got. They told me he was nice and sweet and quiet and wanted to just watch TV with you. lol no
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>>2005064
>Arrogant
>Puppy mill
How ironic. See >>2004865 and stop being so pretentious.
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>>2005071
How the fuck am i supposed to know if he has a website, i met the breeder personally through work
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>>2005086
What's the kennel name?
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>>2005088
Not a kennel
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>>2005097
So the dogs aren't registered? He doesn't advertise or enter his dogs in schutzhundt?
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>>2005101
He is registered and he breeds specifically for the police. The only puppies that get adopted as "pets" are the ones that don't make the cut. What point are you trying to get at here?
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>>2005103
I am looking for a kennel name. Something he would register his dogs under.
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>>2005125
not him but businesses that don't sell to the public usually aren't available to the public online or anywhere else.

It's kinda a pain in the ass when you sell to governments and corporations and you get all these individuals trying to buy from you. The public sucks.
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>>2005125
How the fuck would i know, I don't work in the dog squad
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$900 for my shar-pei pup.
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>>2004703
Blondi
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>>1998718
Kek story please
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>>2004957

Id like the chances to be as reduced as possible. I've spent more money on way stupider stuff.
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>>2005326
her and her husband won the lottery for like 1.5 million, they bought a house and then the husband spent all the money on useless stuff and their marriage started to fail...they even got a dr. phil episode lol.
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>>1998594
200 for my great dane/golden retriever mix
350 for my black lab
And my pit bull was a rescue i got for free
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>>1998613
>>1998615
Adorable dogs, bro, congratz.
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>>2005085
>anon didn't even know the breeder enough to know the kennel name
>suddenly they are an expert on breeding police dogs

You're trying so hard that you're making fatal mistakes. Think longer next time
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>>2006802
>Thinks he knows a colleague of mine better than I do
>He doesn't listen when I tell him it's a private breeder

Point still stands, you're a pretentious know it all that doesn't know shit. Kill yourself you arrogant prick.
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>>2004874
>http://m.humanesociety.org/animals/dogs/tips/puppy_behavior_basics.html

usually weaned at six to seven weeks, but are still learning important skills as their mother gradually leaves them for longer periods of time. Ideally, puppies should stay with their littermates (or other "role-model" dogs) for at least 12 weeks.
Puppies separated from their littermates too early often fail to develop appropriate "social skills," such as learning how to send and receive signals, what an "inhibited bite" (acceptable mouthing pressure) means, how far to go in play-wrestling, and so forth.
Play is important for puppies because it increases their physical coordination, social skills, and learning limits. By interacting with their mother and littermates, puppies explore the ranking process ("who's in charge") and also learn "how to be a dog."
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>>2004865
What don't they do (from this >>2004869 post)?
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>>2004477

>implying you can reputably breed an incestuous pure breed dog

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>2006968
He doesn't know because it was all made up
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>>2006968
For one there's no stupid contracts imposed by the breeder. Secondly, there is health testing, as you would, but it's not as rigorous as some of the autists here imply. Other than that, most of those points are attainable, and often is, by a BYB.

>>2006982
Says the cunt that chose to ignore >>2006958 because he knows i'm right
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>>2006984
>implying 4chan is one person
I doubt you know a thing about breeding because you are contradicting yourself, or at least the story is. They would still be contactable, they would need a kennel for schutzhund unless your police force is buying pet store tier mutts or your police force is not buying them from the actual breeder. Police have to sign a contract for every trained dog, you fucked yourself there. And since you're so knowledgeable, I bet you know why too, right?

What do you consider to be 'rigorous' health testing? What health testing do they do? Because you gave yourself wiggle room there so you could still run back if someone poked holes in your story.
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>>2006992

Not really related to what you guys are arguing about, but I remember our police force recently had like 10 of their dogs undergo preventative surgery to prevent future hip problems

>even the police can't get healthy pure breeds
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>>2007001
I've definitely seen roached back police dogs before. They no longer use GSDs anymore in my area
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>>2006992
The police here explicitly state that suppliers of general purpose working dogs should breed for the purpose of the police, not the breeder, considering how a large number of dogs don't pass the 3 month training course at our p.academy. So the point still stands that the breeder cannot IMPOSE contracts, but rather agree to terms. On that note of course the breeders are contactable, no one said they weren't.
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>>2007005
Of course, because you said every 'fact' with enough lee-way to wiggle out of them when you get called out. But you still didn't address other parts of the post.

Stupid and rigorous are subjective, but you have yet to say anything concrete
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>>2007015
>Fact
Where was it said that everything i've stated is fact? Don't put words in my mouth, you seem to act like you know more about my pf than i do, which is humorous. Like i said, i'm not a handler nor do i specialise in the dog squad. But i have worked alongside them so i'd like to think my limited OPINION on the organisation i work for holds more weight than some random faggot on the internet.
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>>2007020
You're right, the story was fabricated from the start.
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>>2007021
Whatever makes you feel better cunt
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>>2007015
Reputable is subjective
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>>2007023
My god what a great rebuttal. Kudos, kid. Nothing show intelligence than passing over the subject with name calling ;)

>>2007030
see >>2004569

>>2006980
A reputable breeder doesn't necessarily have to breed old pure breeds of dogs. But unfortunately just about every purebred I can think of had inbreeding occur early in it's formation.
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>>2007037
I don't know how else you want me to respond to "your story is a lie!!" you autistic little shit. Nothing shows ignorance and arrogance like acting like a pretentious know-it-all on a cantonese drawing board. Tell me everything else you know about my job :^)
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>>2007041
You're obviously talking shit.
You got called out on it.
Move on.
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>>2007041
I guess I'll need to direct you back to the topic you're trying hard to miss

>>2006992
>>2006992
>>2006992
>>2006992

You already implied you've been lying so I'm not really all too interested in what more you have to say, because chances are you may still be lying.
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>>2007046
>>2007048
I already stated that my opinion is limited because i myself am not a handler. That being said my opinion it still holds more weight than you autists. I'd like you to tell me where i was wrong, the thing is, you can't.
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>>2007051
Oh, now your opinion on whether that breeder is reputable is actually limited because you don't really know?
We can't because you made the story up and tried to cover up your lack of knowledge with adjectives instead of information
>>2007020
And you even admit to lying, you still avoid questions that you claimed you knew
>>2004865
>>2006984
And you still won't answer what should be an opinion.
You're just a little upset you fucked yourself over on an anonymous image board. It's nothing to burn your bum over; worse things will happen to you in your life.
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>>2007055
>Supplier of police dogs
>Not reputable
Don't kid yourself now, he's reputable. Like i said, he's just a colleague, I'm not the handler, so my knowledge is limited. Don't know why that's so hard for you to comprehend.

>Admit to lying
No, I'm just not stupid enough to not be able to differentiate fact from opinion you stupid mong. Nice try at putting words in my mouth again.
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>>2007041
Calling people out for being on a japanese image board is dumb as fuck these days.

Everyone knows about 4chan. Its mainstream basically. Hardly anybody here is a weeaboo.
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>>2007064
Not all police dog suppliers are reputable. see >>2007001
>>2007002
The comprehension issue comes from where you try to cover your tracks because, although you knew what this breeder did before here >>2004865
>>2006984
Now you have suddenly forgotten. Have you suffered a severe blow to the head recently?

If your experience is an opinion, I don't think it's a true story. Either it happened or it didn't.
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>>2007070
>Not all police dog suppliers are reputable
Oh fuck here we go, police require the best of the best since a large number of dogs don't pass their designated courses, but disregard that because incoming know-it-all gay cunt that thinks he knows better than the very institutions that protect society. Bravo. Besides, I'm pretty sure those anons were talking about the inherit health problems associated with GSDs.

And yes, i know what he does, especially the part where the dogs aren't adopted on his terms, which apparently goes against the definition of "reputable". Also, I know better than to regard his word of mouth as fact, but it seems only idiots like you can't differentiate that and carelessly throw the term around.
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I got him for 0$. Me and my family had rescued him when he had been stolen. The Dog's name is originally Ricky and had been abused by his old owners which he got stolen from. He has been spanked, kicked, punched, and even unfed. When we had got him he was at 10 pounds, his skin could reveal his bones easily. Now that he is in our care he is 16-17 pounds. He usually has nightmares when he sleeps, yelping quietly and twitching. The Dog is also yet scarred for life because of his abuse. I took this picture on a mobile phone so sorry that it's large and gives a hard time viewing.
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>>2007202
That is a qt pupper, you're doing good work looking after him.
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>>2000905
thank you.

I think your landlord is not allowed to forbid the keeping of a dog in general.
So its no problem if the dog does not make any trouble.
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>>2007215
In Germany a landlord doesn't have the right to refuse pets in their own property? I know they couldn't refuse muslims, I did not know pets have them kek*ed as well. For shame.
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>>2007199
Keep lying asshole, no one believes you anyway.
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>>2007199
You don't think breeding dogs that are known to be unhealthy and get a terrible hip disorder that is incredibly painful and impairs movement isn't reputable? Oh wait, that's right, it's only a good breeder because you say it is, because the police are never, ever wrong.

It's not impossible to breed a GSD without crippling hip dysplasia, you know.

It's odd you keep saying you know what he does but never say what he does.
>I know better than to regard his word of mouth as fact
In other words the person you supposedly met in this fake story was also lying

You are backpedaling hard, my friend.
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>>2007269
Lying because you don't agree with me? Whatever makes you feel better kek

>>2007279
Link me a good number of breeders/kennels that have successfully eradicated, not just reduced, hip dysplasia in their line of GSDs then smartass.

And Jesus, I'm talking to a complete idiot. Go look up the literal definition of "fact" you tard and fucking educate yourself.

>It's odd you keep saying you know what he does but never say what he does.
>never say what he does
I have though lol it's literally in the same sentence retard.
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First dog: $0 - was a Pomeranian who was abandoned in a grocery parking lot. One of the parking attendants took care of him for 2 days before my mom offered to adopt him. The vet estimated that he was around 6-8 at the time and lived for another 14 years under our care. I miss the little guy, he was quiet, clean and very well behaved.

2nd dog: $0, Chow/German Sheperd we only had her for 3 years as we eventually moved to an apartment that didn't allow for large breeds. Our cousin took her in.

3rd dog: $50 Craigslist dog, half maltese, half other. Came with a bowl, a bag of food and a couple toys. Loud and annoying but otherwise friendly.

4th dog: $0 purebred Yorkie, was a wedding present from a relative who is a breeder. Very quiet and sweet, though he has killed dozens rabbits/squirrels in our yard in the 7 years we've had him.

5th dog: $0 Labradoodle, adopted from a friend who moved out of state for work. The latter three are all still alive and with us. They thankfully all get along. The Yorkie likes to sleep on the Maltese mix.
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>>1998662

is adorable, i love her.


fuck all yall /an/

now youve got me looking for breeders and seeing what breed id be most compatible with.
i cant even have a dog right now. but i want one so bad. i just want a companion im so lonely ;_;
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>>2004703
You live in Clovis?
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>>2007440
I smell burning pants...
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>>2002875
Cute pupper
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$1000

Completely worth it. 10/10 Companion
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>>1998865
what is this it is gorgeous
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>>2007207
Thank you anon, hes pretty happy to be living with us, we even bought him a christmas sweater for this cold holiday season. He has a 2 month of supply of dog food. but since it was meant for large dogs. It should take more than 6 months before it runs out, we usually make him drink bottled water because of some harming effects of sink water that comes from the tap.
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