Camwhores: Cheating or No?

>>18726943
It is more than just opening a vid or pic and rubbing one out so I would say yes. You are connecting with them more.

>>18726943
I think messing with camwhores has no place in the disney version of love, no place whatsoever.

that being said, I'm so fucking fed up with people that I'd be willing to tolerate you doing that if it was the worst thing you did.

>>18726952
But who's the "you"? How am "I" connecting with them more when I have literally no identity to them outside of some shitty moniker? From their perspective, I may as well be a chatbot. You really think that the fact that it's not pre-recorded makes a difference?

>>18726984
It does in my mind but this is shitty advice coming from a guy who regularly cheats on his wife so do what you will with it.

>>18726984
But ThEY aren't just pictures or a video to you. You are interacting with them irl and telling them how pretty they are, and basically it's like talking to some girls you met and not telling your wife.

>>18726980
The Disney version of love is essentially oneism, where a person is led to believe that there is a "prince charming" for them (and them only), for whom they must seek. New-age rhetoric called it the "soulmate." I don't care what you call it; it's the fundamental, most profitable lie ever fucking told. More of the economy is driven by the perception we want to project to others in order to become the person we think we have to be in order to attract the person we want than we even recognize, unless we are constantly looking for it (which, as a recent soon-to-be divorcee, I sorta am).

And in point of fact, she did (tolerate me having done that), with the caveat that I shouldn't do it again. Then, when I told her I still wanted it, she actually literally started camwhoring herself. That shit was awks AF. I can't describe the feeling of hearing your wife fake an orgasm on cam while dildoing herself from behind, which you can hear both through your computer speakers (shitty macbook, but still) as well as through the ceiling as it wends its way downstairs. It's sort of surreal. Okay, it's "are we in a fucking literal parallel universe" levels of surreal, to be perfectly honest. I can't explain the kind of soul death, the shattering of identity that occurs when you experience that. Because now you know she can. It wasn't supposed to be a thing you'd actually do; it was supposed to be an acknowledgement that you could, and that even though you know I sort of did (though nobody saw my meatsticc while a shitload of midwesterners were pulling their pud to your snatch... you could have found guys you jerk off to and I'd have no problem with it if you had just never shown cam... which either you never thought of as an equivalent (interesting...) or intentionally eschewed in order to establish a context wherein you had social capital as a lady with a cute pussy.

Fuck. I dunno. Thoughts?

>>18727015
on one hand you say you're not sentimental but on the other hand you describe being about 10% cucked as soul death

anyway the main point of my post was that people have been pretty terrible to me so if cYbErInG was the worst thing you did, I would tolerate it

and when I say "i would tolerate it" that means I wouldn't fall on the floor in a cold sweat and have an ego death, although I can tell from the way you're typing that you are being dramatic for some reason

And not all aspects of Disney are false. The conservative stuff is completely real, and the ideas of purity are sort-of-kind-of almost real in theory.

You guys need to decide whether or not the illuminati wants people to be more or less promiscuous or tight as a family unit. You keep giving all of this contradictory information. On one hand, Jared's Jewelers invented the other idea of marriage, and on the other, the Rothschilds or some shit are trying to destroy the family unit by propagating liberalism.

End of the day, it's just a case of people having different opinions from you and me.

Maybe don't reply to the stuff about love being real or not. I don't think that aspect of this converastio nis productive. maybe just stay focused and figure out what you want to accomplish with this thread.

>>18727029
You sounds mentally hot.

>>18726986
So, do you think you're more likely to include camhwore interaction (again - no visual contact from her to me - just me watching) because you want to normalize cheating, because you cheat IRL? Cheating happens *FUCKING OFTEN* - it's like roaches; every one you see is indicative of like 200 more in the fucking wall. It's cray. I think this proves we need to move away from the traditional "family structure" bullshit. Communes have raised most of humanity before this post-industrial suburban framework took place as the primary mode of fucking society. Fuck that. We could rebuild society as as communal child-raising collective, with people just giving their kids to the community.

>>18727035
Cheating means breaking the rules. If it's established that the two of them can cyber, then it's not cheating. it's pretty strange that you type as if all monogamous relationships have one set of rules, your preferred set of rules. I suspect you are still pretty young.

>>18727043
>- And please no "it depends on how you define your boundaries with your partner" responses: I know. We didn't. Shit doesn't work like that for the most part. It should, but it doesn't. So I'm talking gut-level, would you interpret this as cheating with the majority of partners you may have or had, or will maybe have in some awesome future.

>>18727035
Nope I don't give two shits about normalizing what I do.

I just consider interactions with another person for the purpose of sexual pleasure to be cheating. (This could even reach over into pics and vids but I chose to draw a line there because the interactions are inherently one sided with next to no chance of ever being otherwise)

>>18727048
If by cheating you mean cucking, like something that would make Ungo mad and use club club, then yes cybering is "cheaitng." I would rather use the word cucking.

I prefer tradition too, but these privileged fucks and their stupid consumerist underlings don't, so what am I going to do, force women to follow my rules, tie them up and beat them?

I'll fuck chicks, but I don't know if I'll ever have a wife. I'd rather have a surrogate child with no mother than have a fucked up family unit that barely works.

it's interactive. if it's sexual gratification and interactive it's cheating

Would you be angry if you found out your wife was talking to handsome men on webcam and telling them how attractive and interesting she finds them? And if those handsome men did things that turned her and other women around the world on, and your wife frequently enjoyed masturbating to those men specifically?
Ask yourself this seriously, and you will know the answer.

My wife says looking at porn is cheating and is super snoopy she told me she would cheat 2 if i get caught. My mate always said if your on your own your not cheating. Jesus says if you look at another woman with lust in ya heart youve all ready cheated. I rekon if ya watch porn just to nut and dont go to deep than its ok. But sounds like OP is going way to deep i would call it cheating. But if OP argues its nothing and can stop on a whim no addiction then yeah sweet as. Whyd you come clean OP or did you get caught wanking ona cam
man.

>>18727304
>she told me she would cheat 2 if i get caught.
lmao, sounds like you have a good wife right there.

>>18726943
In this situation, the fact you hid it is more of an issue.
The fact you didn't see it as a potential problem is mitigating but it's understandable she felt hurt.

Personally, when it gets to the point of paying for it, it needs a bit of addressing.

Cheating? No
A violation of trust? Yes

>>18726984
If sending nudes on snapchat is cheating... and asking for nudes on snap chat is cheating... then asking for a live strip tease is cheating.

Its not just watching a show or looking at a picture. As soon as you start communicating with these women and asking for stuff personally its cheating.

>>18727035
You have no idea on what the fuck you're talking about.

>>18726943
Would you be okay with your wife seeing other men's on camera in secret and express how handsome they are?
I wouldn't.

>>18727391
It's pretty reasonable, it's simple in a childish way "don't do anything you don't want done to yourself"

Depends on your partner.
imo it's not cheating, but it shouldn't be done either.