help how to ruin someone

>>18699519
the best way to get back at them is to prove them wrong and become successful.

>>18699524
But this person isn't affected by that because he has become successful at a young age and feels he is untouchable. Once I leave he wont take a second glance at what I am doing. I have to do something lasting

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>>18699526
Nope, you are wrong and just being bitter. Want to really fuck him up? Leave one day while he is away or at work. Don't leave a message, don't leave anything of yours behind and cut off all contact with him, his friends, and his family. You think he is untouchable, but when you ghost someone on this level without warning, it hurts them more than you can know. They are left questioning themselves, and everything in their life. You yourself, will never get the gratification of seeing them break in person, but they break, and they break hard. You sound like you just want to see someone break firsthand because you are bitter. Best of luck either way. I'm sure you will just get mad, yell, break things, and then he will just think you are crazy and move on. I gave you the tools to leave a lasting and terrible impression on him that will make him question future relationships. Best of luck.

>>18699519
>Call his workplace, tell them he is in possession of child pornography and there's a risk that he's been storing/trading it in their facilities. Get some buddies to do the same to put them on panic mode.
>Email his workplace (from an email account different from yours, obviously) pretending to be a former employer and tell them he was the worst employee you've ever had.
If you do either of those things, make sure it can't be traced back to you or your friends. Burner phones, proxies, etc help.

>>18699532
Does it help to let you know he is a pro athlete? Thats why its hard to just like email his coaches etc. Not a generic everyday job you know? Also I have his checkbook and last 4 digits of SS. Anything I can do with that?

>>18699531
Im not trying to be bitter. I have the urge to be crazy and break shit like you said, however, I want to do this instead to take my anger out. I promise he will not care if I leave and ghost him. He is one of those people who will fill the void. I need something that hurts Him and doesnt have anything to do with the relationship

>>18699519
Find out his habits. Pay a hobo to stab his shit up.

>>18699519

What did he do? If it's illegal, go to the authorities. That's your cleanest revenge.

>>18699572
unfortunately not considered illegal because it was mostly psychological and he pushed me down and kicked me but I have no evidence (no bruise etc) so

>>18699544
In that case, you can try posting evidence of the things he's done to you on a public platform to ruin his name. Public humiliation is pretty effective.
>Also I have his checkbook and last 4 digits of SS. Anything I can do with that?
You'd have to ask someone else, sorry.

>>18699519
Molotove cocktails are cheap and hrad to trace.

>>18699577
but I dont have any evidence :/ like no pics or anything

>>18699576

Then move on. Don't fight a losing battle. You are clearly trying to do something that will leave evidence, so don't even bother.

>>18699583
Ive thought about burning all his shit. Im in his house right now (we lived together) and i am going out of the country for about a year in 2 days (something that basically broke us up because he feels if I am not in his control he cant trust me) and I took this opportunity for myself to try and use the last amount of self dignity I have left to take steps towards making a name for myself. However anyway- He can just buy everything again. If i burn his shit etc. His car is even given to him for free. its disgusting. So Id say breaking shit would be pointless

>>18699572

Harrasment is illegal.

>>18699591
yea I mean this is why I came on here for advice to see if anyone had any ideas to what I could really do to ruin someone. I assumed a lot was traceable but I am looking for any possible means

>>18699576

Harrasment is illegal, tagged wrong post above.

>>18699592
If he's got a dog then poison it.

>>18699594
How do I present this though

>>18699605
Im taking the dog with me are you kidding me? Thats my baby too :) I could not hurt an innocent puppy. His evil ass though? yeah i have no problems

>>18699605
Don't do this. The dog did nothing wrong.

>>18699606

Do you have proof of harrasment? Emails or some shit? Voice messages? Anything?

>>18699617
sigh. not really anything. We spent most of our time together. So alot of the crazy stuff he says does is in person. I should have recorded more but I was dumb and didnt. I mean I still have 2 days left here maybe he will be crazy and i can record it today

>>18699621

Wait, you living with him? This is domestic abuse?

>>18699627
Yeah we live together its been a really shitty abusive up and down bulshit relationship and I need a way to knock him off his high horse because he really thinks hes a god (pro athlete ego)... The problem is I dont have evidence so I feel if I just go and say Oh im being abused they wont take me seriously

>>18699621
Try manipulating him into giving you evidence, or at least admission. Talk to him while recording against his knowledge, go into all the shit he's done, and try to get as many admissions or confirmations as possible with as little uncertainty as you can. "Remember when you [x]ed me?" and him saying "I did that because..." is good. Don't ever raise your fists at him or instigate anything physical, but if you can bait him into trying it with you and it's on camera, you're even more golden.
Be careful to check your state's laws on filming someone in their home against their knowledge, though.

>>18699640

What's more valuable: Having a good life or making both of yours hell? Get out of there, get a place to be away from him, and rebuild yourself. Taking him down with you won't make you feel better. As a matter of fact, letting that anger control you even after leaving him is just giving him power over your life again.

>>18699519

Get your shit together and move on. Become wildly successful.
Use your anger to motivate yourself to achieve greater things.
Then use your money and power to get back at him in a legal manner.

Or give in to your impulses, burn his house down, and see if the fine gentlemen at the penitentiary bully you any less.

Good luck anon

>>18699647
Forgot to add: Remember that you can cut anything out of the audio/video. If he shoots back at you with lies or false accusations to gaslight you, that muddies the waters and throws suspicion on you.

>>18699640
>>18699647

>Be careful to check your state's laws on filming someone in their home against their knowledge, though.

Yeah, also, how about thinking about what will happen if he catches you? If he already attacked you, as you said here >>18699576 putting him against the wall with a camera might push him over the edge. Think carefully before trying someting like that. Sometimes it's worth it to just leave.

>>18699649
Yeah youre right but honestly I want him to suffer lol Im past the point of being the bigger person Ive been so beat down that I need him to feel some type of way that I felt. Super immature, yea I agree. But it is what it is. I am moving on and am leaving the country for a while for a job I got but I need to feel some power in this situation or I will be extremely sad for a long time

>>18699654
I am going to set up my phone camera to video with full battery and see what I can catch. He definitely has talked about it before but he basically blames me for everything (unjustly). Like, oh It was okay for me to push you down because you started talking all up in my face. Oh its okay that I kicked you being you werent backing down you were still talking to me after I told you I didnt want to hear it etc.

>>18699658
>I need to feel some power in this situation

Don't do down that road. Don't turn pain into anger. Don't because an abuser yourself.

Yeah, you'll tell me he deserves it. But think about it this way: This is your chance to deal with this without hurting anyone. The more you let yourself hurts others to feel better, the more you'll start doing it.

>>18699653
I will never have as much money as this fucking asshole as Smart and well motivated I am, this guy has millions of dollars. I am young and can obviously focus on a career and make a good amount of money (I am considering medicine after I am done with my oversea commitment), however it will take years and years for me to ever come remotely close to what he has at this age already. It makes me so upset.

>>18699656
Yeah I have to be careful to set it up in a particular spot he wont notice.

>>18699666
Not OP, but that's bullshit. It's "If you kill the bad guy, you're just as bad as him!" nonsense.
An abuser is not just part of "the others" or "anyone". They're someone who has ruined you and taken your own power, as well as agency over your mental and emotional well-being away away from you. An abuser deserves whatever misfortune comes upon them, especially if they feel no true guilt or desire to change for their own actions.

>>18699532
Nigger, if he's already got a job and his performance is fine they don't give one flying fuck what a "former employer" says. Shit-tier advice.

>>18699676

Or, you can NOT do it. That's even safer.

Also, start letting people in your life know. Friends and family. Get a place to stay and warn them about him.

>>18699640
gathering proof is up to detectives and police, you just need to report it so they can do their job. anything you can provide that will make it easier for them to do so is just a bonus.

also since you're a female there's always false rape accusations.

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>>18699683
So you're encouraging this faggot to use the other guy's SSN number and bank info then because he bullied him? Interesting.

>>18699666
I feel you and understand. I dont want to become an abuser myself. I dont think I have the capacity to do it to anyone who doesnt deserve it in my opinion. This is a particular case. Ive known this person seen how they operate and I can say for a fact they deserve it.

>>18699687
>gathering proof is up to detectives and police
They won't do shit. You can't prove something went down in a house based on hearsay and no evidence.
>also since you're a female there's always false rape accusations.
Good job contributing to the stigma. Most rape accusations end with the rapist walking free because of lack of evidence, being lent sympathy by his peers/community who will lend him the benefit of the doubt, and the accuser being vilified as a liar or a "slut" even if they're telling the truth. Why are you deliberately giving OP shit advice? Fuck off back to /r9k/.

>>18699687
How do I do this false accusation and have the best chance of success

>>18699694
Nope, I didn't suggest anything to do with that. I'm just pointing out that this "uwu don't hurt someone just because they hurt you!!!" logic is bullshit perpetuated either by people who want to protect abusers, or naive, ignorant people who have never suffered that type of abuse.

>>18699673

You dont need to make more money than him, you just need to be well off enough to pursue more sophisticated forms of revenge. Plus the more time you put between his actions and yours the better chance he'll never see it coming and you dont get caught. Revenge is best served cold etc. Its a very true saying. Id recommend waiting till hes married and outing an affair or something of that sort. You'd still have the moral high ground and he'd (probably) be miserable or at least have a shit load of alimony to pay. Bonus points if you pick up his newly rich ex after

>>18699683

Yeah, but what happens when you start letting your anger out the same way they did? Sure, you start with them. But that awful trauma, everything they did, you exorcise from yourself by being like them.

>They're someone who has ruined you and taken your own power, as well as agency over your mental and emotional well-being away away from you.

And if the only way you have to move on is to lash back, then that's gonna be your path in the future. Abuser usually start as victims. Don't do the same.

>>18699702
Don't. There is none. It will ruin your reputation, and since he's a pro athlete, he can get really good lawyers on his side. Just stick with filming his abusive behavior without him knowing, and then you'll have a case.

>>18699699
>Most rape accusations end with the rapist walking free because of lack of evidence, being lent sympathy by his peers/community who will lend him the benefit of the doubt, and the accuser being vilified as a liar or a "slut"
They also lead to the one who made the false accusations in the first place getting sued and/or imprisoned once it's found out it's false. That's definitely a civil AND criminal matter.

>>18699699
Ok so rape accusation is shitty advice? Im on here to honestly find out what I can do. If its shit and doesnt work then I wont but, I was his longterm gf I dont think Id be considered a slut. His peers if anything sympathize with me becayes they know hes a heartless asshole

>>18699697
>I dont think I have the capacity to do it to anyone who doesnt deserve it in my opinion.

That's a slippery slope. Taking your anger out becomes a habit if you never learn to deal with it some other way. Start practicing now. Find another way to deal with your anger and move on.

>>18699712
Okay I wont do this then lol. Ur right about the lawyers

>>18699718
It's very shitty advice. You'd need undeniable proof for it to hold up in court. Stay with the truth of things if you're going to the law.

>>18699720
I have never been angry before this mf came and ruined my emotional health. You can say it was my fault for staying but I was manipulated countless times . Not trying to make excuses but its just the truth. I love everyone else in my life. People consider me too nice. I dont think I have the capacity to be mean to anyone other than this person who deserves whatever pain they inflicted on me. Other people I dont really have a huge problem with. If they hurt me then I can ya know move along with my life and focus on other things but this. This guy is different.

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Alright so from what I've read, this is some cunt who got her feelings hurt by an athlete Chad or something. Best advice I can give you is to get the fuck over especially if you want any kind of future for yourself. You've gone from admitting you have his bank info and SSN on an online forum and the willingness to use it malicious (federal offense) to now wanting advice on how to make a fake rape claim against him. You've got to be the most vapid, airheaded bitch on the planet if you don't think Law Enforcement and feds browse this shit all the time. If you make any move in any of the directions you've already mentioned the evidence is right here ITT to put you in prison for a long time. Get the fuck over yourself and stop being such a goddamn idiot. Jesus, women are fucking stupid as hell. Go suck some other guy's dick and gurgle his balls so you can use your two brain cells for something useful instead of trying to mastermind some dumbshit on a site that has LEO all over the place.

>>18699731
Okay thank you I wont even come close to lying then. I definitely dont want to look like a dumbass

>>18699737
t. incel who complains about having no gf daily

>>18699734
>You can say it was my fault

Don't say that. You are leaving now, and that's enough.

>People consider me too nice.

Then prove them right and be the better person. Leave him behind.

>>18699737
Love these responses. Thanks. Im an idiot sure but what if this is helping calm me down and giving me a nice refreshing splash of reality? I didnt hurt anyone yet. Like I said, I have a future plan for myself. the reason im here is to see if I could do anything to leave with a lasting impression. I fucking hate this person and if you knew the manipulation this guy has put me through you'd understand. Ill be okay, I just fucking hate being hurt for no fucking reason.

>>18699750
sigh. I just wish I could do ANYTHING to make this person feel some type of pain of any sort. It sounds so fucked up but I just really wish I could do this to this one person and then just go on with my life afterwards

>>18699743
I'm not even an incel, I fuck on a regular basis but this shit's a headache to read. Half the shit this cunt has said already could land her in jail if a nickel goes missing from that guy's account and she's too fucking stupid to realize it. You have any idea what a parallel investigation is? You should probably look it up. Or don't. Continue letting irrational emotions guide your life so you'll have plenty of time to meditate on the shit when you're locked up. Get the fuck over it and move on. Best advice you're going to find ITT.

>>18699707
Ugh once Im out of here and do some cold revenge on him like ASAP I dont want to ever hear his slimy name again. So. Idk about the waiting game. I feel like Itd just be better to get it out of the way now and then feel a weight off my shoulders after. And- if I do this now, theres no way in hell he can come back and convince me to be with him again (knowing me im a naiive piece of shit who falls for this fuckery).

>>18699759

It doesn't make you feel better. Hurting them never solves anything. It only gives you a little high, a quick rush of adrenalin. And that's where you start losing yourself.

Wanting to hurt him is not bad. It' a resonable thought. But stop giving it space in your head. It will only make you do something you'll regret.

>>18699762
>if a nickel goes missing from that guy's account
She hasn't taken shit from his finances, hasn't filed any false rape charges, and no one ITT has suggested anything explicitly illegal. As long as she doesn't do any of the things literally everyone said "Don't fucking do this" about, she won't be thrown in jail.

>>18699776
>Hurting them never solves anything.
Patently untrue

>>18699762
Stop calling me a cunt for looking for some fucking advice on a forum. Im learning. Isnt that a good way to learn? Asking questions? getting answers. Research. Im not getting locked up. please. This shit is never going to be read. A nickel? Ha. You give the law enforcement a loooot of credit.

>>18699778
Whatever you say, fuck-o. Enjoy your stay.

>>18699778
Exactly. Im just looking to see what people have to fucking say about it. I havent done shit.

>>18699787
>This shit is never going to be read
I'll continue calling you a cunt because that's what you are on top of being extremely stupid. If you leddit faggots had been here longer than a week you'd know LEO has already done this exact thing multiple times on this site (both playing the victim and encouraging a legit victim to do something crazy) and arrested them. If you think this shit isn't "going to be read" you really need to get the fuck off 4chan. This isn't your hugbox because you're on the advice board instead of some other board. The metadata's scraped here on a constant basis. Keep living in your dumbass world where you can just fling around rape allegations and nothing will happen to you. We'll still be here posting your selfie when we find the news article about you going to jail and laughing at your dumb ass. Learn where the fuck you are or don't post on this site at all.

>>18699776
Well. maybe youre right. Maybe I will regret doing something malicious toward this person. Lets say I dont.. If I flip the conversation around to how do I forget about this abuse and move on what would you suggest ?

>>18699519
Kill yourself, leave a scathing suicide note blaming that person.

>>18699592
what im getting from this is you want to leave for a year and he very reasonably thinks that over a space of such time in a new place you will both grow apart as typically happens, long distance rarely works and now your trying to psychology scar him because your a fucking psycho - i bet hes never done anything to you, fuck you freak

>>18699807
So, the guy that told OP to file a false rape accusation will be arrested? Cool.

>>18699807
Youre so dramatic. I said I wasnt going to do anything. Have you ever had a fucked up idea cross your mind and then posted it? Like I said I am not acting on shit. The amount of people saying horrible putrid shit online daily, and on 4chan included. doesnt mean they are all getting arrested.

>>18699810

Moving out is obviously step one. It might be best to not be alone for a while, too. He is violent, after all.

And this will leave a hole in your life. You will feel the change. The important thing is to keep strong. Fill the hole. Do things that make you feel good. Start building a new rutine. It will be hard. It will be. Don't do it alone if you can help it.

Oh, and by the way, as soon as someone suggests you should get back to him or something, kick that person out of your life. Last thing you need is a damn enabler getting you back into bad habits.

>>18699810
>how do I forget about this abuse and move on what would you suggest ?
The change of surroundings once you move will definitely help. Block him on all social media, and consider cutting off anyone who might remain on his side in any capacity. You could see a therapist or join some sort of online support group (maybe on Reddit) to work through the lasting effects of the abuse, as well.
Don't fall for the whole "rebound" thing if it means you might start having sloppy one-night stands with randoms. You'll just feel empty in the end and it's not worth it.

>>18699702
you would really ruin the entirety of someones life over a break up. that is vile

>>18699818
lmao I wish this was true. He told me many times he would be able to do a LDR. Thats not the problem. The problem is him being a bipolar abusive piece of shit who ends up changing his mind every other day about what he wants and he drags me down with him during his tantrums. He is a little boy scared of me leaving and doing something for myself. I would be back in december, its not that bad, weve been apart before. But its the fact that I decide to make a decision for myself and do something I want to do that makes him doubt himself and his power. Stupid bulshit

>>18699822
No cunt, they're not all getting arrested, they're all not posting about their explicit intent to file false police charges or use someone's SNN and bank info without their permission either. Maybe think about that for a minute then leave.

>>18699827
Ive never had a one night stand or a hookup in my life and I dont plan on it. Hopefully I can recover in a healthy way. Thank you for your advice.

>>18699842
The amount of horrible fucked up shit on the internet and you think I am the only person posting some shit like this? please.

>>18699519
chemical castration mixed into their diet

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Man cucked to death

>>18699824
Well Ill try my best to fill the void but unfortunately with my past i know I am prone to holding onto this pain for way too long. I really hope I can find a way to be strong enough to live and move on. Thank you.

>>18699845
I gotta be honest the more you type the more I'm rooting for this athlete guy to just deck you square in your fucking face and knock you out the next time you start whining about this stupid shit.

>>18699852
fuck I am literally just on here having a discussion is that so terrible

>>18699852
You were clearly doing that from the start when you started screeching about women as a whole and trying to threaten OP indirectly when nothing illegal has even been done, you misogynistic freak. Just fuck off already.