ITT: Ask the opposite gender anything

Bitches be crazy - True or false?

>>18695656
True

>>18695656
obvious answer is obvious, we're mentals

To Girls - If we've made out once (and perhaps were drunk), do I now have permission to try and make out with you whenever I want afterwards? Lets say we made out Tuesday, can I pull you in and get at when we meet up Friday?

>>18695863
Not really, no.

>>18695863
No, not really. Sober her could be less enthusiastic about the idea. What's your relationship together? How far have you gone with her sober? Next time you see her, you could say flirtatiously, "I had a really good time on Tuesday." See if she responds flirtatiously, or if she looks kind of embarrassed. Try to go for something that's a step above what you've done with her sober. If you've only had fleeting touches, try for a long extended hug. If you've hugged, try for a quick peck on the cheek or lips.

If she wasn't blackout drunk, she is probably aware of the step forward you two have taken physically. If she's socially aware, she'll be careful to not reciprocate any sensual gestures if she regrets her actions Tuesday.

How come when I try to make female friends they try to fuck me or want nothing to do with me ? I don't touch them or try to flirt.

Girls: am I epic?

>>18695863
Also, it depends a lot on your dynamic and the context. Even if we're talking about a serious long term relationship with a girl that you have had sober sex with, individual girls will feel differently about random makeout sessions. There are some who, when turned to a semi-private corner in public, would love to start making out. There are some who like to make out in full view public! There are also some girls who would be shocked and annoyed for a random make out even in their own home- they prefer to keep that specifically on the bed. Some girls like a build up first, of teasing and flirting before something as physical as making out. Some girls are ready to smash faces 24/7

"Permission to try" is determined by your expectations from your relationship. If you two aren't even established fuck buddies, you don't have a relationship. You don't have any expectations. A random drunk girl being overly touchy-feely doesn't really give you much foundation.

>>18695910
Some girls don't believe that men have platonic intentions with them. Or maybe you have a reputation in your town. Or maybe your standard personality is more flirtatious than you think it is.
How many girls has this happened with?

>>18695917
Oh probably like 20

>>18695917
Mainly just my mom

Girls, What's the green light??

>>18695924
"The Green Light" means a signal that allows you to move forward. Permission, essentially. It implies that you will succeed without "cross traffic" ie danger or obstacles. In can apply in any situation.

>You have the green light to contact the client about that sale.
>You have the green light to ask that girl out.
>You have the green light to have sex with me while I'm asleep
>You have the green light to call me whenever you're feeling down
>You have the green light to drive through this intersection

Girls, What's the green light??

>>18695937
I meant in terms of love. How can i sense green light??

>>18695950
Sensing the green light is not something we can teach you, anon. You can guess that you probably have it when she reciprocates your flirting.

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>>18695656

To girls, Does your man without hesitation lick your pussy??

I guess I'm friendzoned. The girl I like was talking to a friend of hers around me about some guy she saw and how hot he was. Tell me I'm wrong please.

>>18696029
I've been with one man but yes he did.

>>18696033
You might be friendzoned but this doesn't mean much. Plenty of women are a bit clueless when it comes to this, it's very well possible that she meant nothing with it or even hoped it would make you jealous. Look for patterns in her behavior, not isolated incidents.

>>18695924
If you haven't dated yet (look for clusters of these signs):
>laughing and smiling a lot, laughs at your jokes more than others
>"people seeing us must think we're together"
>"we would make a cute couple"
>touching you and/or fidgeting around with her own hair/clothes more than necessary
>assuming you have a girlfriend while it was never discussed
>asking what kind of women you like, sexual questions and/or jokes
>sitting closely, looking down at your mouth when you talk
>when in a group setting and something funny/weird happens, she instantly looks for your reaction

When you are dating;
>she wants you to meet family members
>mentions her friends/family like you together a lot (bonus points for strong wording like "think you make me happy" or "have never seen me like this about a guy")
>she talks about how you would make a good father/husband
>she wants to meet your friends and family

Hope this gives you an idea.

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>>18696028
Have fun being single at 40 with a dried up snatch with that attitude roastie.

i just want to post here to let you guys know that my life is shit but im trying to change it and change myself because i cant go on like this anymore, i know its a long road until i become normal so to speak but at least im trying

>>18696071
Good for you. That's a great attitude to have in life. You might think you only reached this point now or whatever, but plenty of people never do and just wallow in feeling sorry for themselves. So cheers.

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>>18696067

>>18696086
thanks dude

i even bought a different color of headphones than the ones i usually buy because i gotta make changes it doesnt matter if they are small or insignificant, they are changes after all

>>18696071
Forward projection! Good work.
>>18696112
What color did you choose?

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Girls, what are the sexiest ways guys have dominated you? Looking for new things to try with my submissive gf in bed :^)

>>18696071

Seconding this: >>18696086

Remember to notice the small improvements along the way, it'll make the goal seem closer when you look back at your minor achievements in the process.

Why are blondes the hottest?
Girls, would you be afraid of your brain shrinking if you dyed your hair blonde?

>>18696125
Not a lot of info here because I am dominant leaning, but one of my hottest memories with my ex was a moment where I was finishing myself off after intimacy and he reached down, dipped his fingers in his cum and fed it to me by pushing them in my mouth.

Also orgasm denial is lots of fun. I think the biggest aspect of any powerplay is that you really own the role and don't second guess yourself. Perhaps if you've worked a job where you had the authority to tell customers what was or wasn't allowed, you have had the experience that power is an exchange. You can only be in a position of authority when others respect your authority (luckily most people really hate breaking strong social norms), and this way you can confidently tell someone no who is bigger/older than you and wouldn't take shit from you in any other context. Try to use that to internalize that she wants you to be the man so that's what she's going to get, no ifs and buts. You can't go wrong. The real way to potentially break character isn't "fucking up" but becoming visibly self-conscious or insecure. Use your lust (and whatever ego/power trip stuff helps you) to get into character and exude that what you want is going to happen, and she better make that happen fast.

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Girls, How would you feel if you found out that your bf is masturbating?
Does the masturbating materials makes a difference on how you feel?

>>18696125
http://bdsmwiki.info/Aftercare

>>18696133
Blonde hair is striking, rare and associated with youth because many fair haired people become (somewhat) darker in terms of hair color as they age.

I am not afraid of my brain shrinking (that's just another version of the tired old "if you're pretty you must be dumb" trope), but I am afraid of the damage it would do to my hair (they have to drain the color if you're dark and then dye it, which is really bad for it), to me the most beautiful shades are always natural anyway (hard to catch that strawberry blonde or honey toned golden blonde with dye), and I really strongly doubt that it would flatter the rest of my features.

>>18696133
>Why are blondes the hottest?
They're not. Dark hair is the hottest

How bad is it for a mother and a father if they're almost 30 year old son kills himself? How long would it take for them to get over it and how would it affect them? Any chance they might do something to themselves too which causing a chain reaction of missery?

p.s. this isnt an hurr durr imma kill myself question gimme attention or w/e just asking objectively for a friend

>>18696137
In general I fucking love masturbation. It's probably my biggest, most often recurring kink in fantasies. I also adore mutual masturbation as a sex act, or stripteases while he jerks off. I think what I like most about it (apart from the mild taboo/naughty factor) is that masturbation is simply about lust. Not trying to please or impress anyone, not feeling love, just being a sexual being and attending to that.

It matters a bit. I am definitely not against porn but I would tread carefully with a guy who is crazy about it and watches lots. I don't feel like consuming a lot of porn tends to impact your sex life in a positive manner, not just in terms of frequency but also their expectations and how easily they get turned off if it isn't perfect or smooth enough.
And there's some stuff that would just turn me off. Few women want to find out that their guy is into hentai featuring kids, or likes to watch women getting aggressively fucked by dogs or something. Having said that these are the exceptions, there's lots more I would either find a turn on or just not care about.
Enjoying porn in healthy moderation is very hot. I like watching it together or seeing what a guy has saved.

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>>18696137
It's normal. I'd be concerned if he didnt't get off every now and then. Would even appreciate being asked for sexy pictures to help him out if he's not in the mood for sex.

>>18696148
It depends on the people and whether they will move on after some time boils down to several factors... like whether they could tell their son was actively suffering but also how emotionally resilient they are in general, whether they have other kids that need them...

However if your child kills himself then yes that is always an incredible hit. People don't say for nothing that losing a child is the worst pain known to man. And then there's the knowledge that your kid took their own life, the person you probably love most in the world chose to destroy themselves. It is hard enough to accept losing someone when it was inevitable - even with a deadly disease people ask "why him/her?". A suicide is more pointless still. And then as the parent it only really starts there: is it your fault? Is there anything you could've done? You always could've done more. Why didn't you? Why didn't you realize more how bad it was? If you had called that night, would he still be alive? Was he in pain and scared? Why did he not reach out?

Their life MIGHT not be 100% over but it will not ever be the same.

>>18696148
Bad, but probably not as bad as if the son was in his teens. If during the teens there would be the whole "so much potential all shattered" thing. At 30 that stage has probably passed to a certain degree. But what do i know - my oldest is 5, so it's hard to imagine being parent of a 30 year old.

>>18696140
>to me the most beautiful shades are always natural anyway
I've never met a girl like you. Marry me?

>>18696148
I think it mainly depends on if he was a good son or not.

>>18696125
Try "YES GAME", you tie her down and ask her questions, and she has to answer with yes only.
You start with simple questions, like do you want ______, rubbed/sucked/kissed?
Then move to pain stuff, and alternate between.
Her punishment for failing to answer "Yes" would be pulling some pubic hair with a tweezer.
Fun game, great for beginners.

>>18696161
So moral of the story they should always leave a message saying it wasn't their fault and their own choice or something? Even if they weren't close but the parents still love them

Girls

If a guy in his 30s decides to try out dating for the first time. What are his chances he'll find a cute girl his age?

>>18696163
i think it depends how much they love him, because good/bad is objective

>>18696168
not a girl but i can also tell you very very very small chance

>>18696121
thanks dude, blue, i usually buy black headphones but i wanted something different
>>1869613
will do, thanks for the advice btw

Known a girl a long long time. Once she told me a story about how she sat on a guy's face and was embarrassed about it. Heard stories about how she used to suck dick on break at her job and stuff when she was a teenager. Guess I was always jealous that I was "the friend" and she was fucking everyone else. As I've gotten older I've had more of an understanding as to why it was that way and I don't blame her. I've asked her out before and she always has a reason not to, but she keeps texting and calling me, especially when I haven't talked to her in several days. We reconnected a few months ago and she's still not interested in a relationship, but she always initiates conversation, like saying 'wyd' which I had to fucking google the first time she sent it.

Anyway, how do I finish moving her from friend into girlfriend? She has two kids, she's not particularly in shape, I'm overweight but losing weight, we've got about a decade of friendship between us and we're both in our late 20's. I'd say value wise we're about equal though she's still a bit higher than me. She's been through a lot over the years so I know she's hesitant into having another boyfriend, but I'd sincerely like to be her last one (and first husband one day - she never married). I know that seems weird and maybe even "creepy" but at least for me it was a love at first sight thing and nobody makes me as happy or makes me feel quite the way that she does.

>>18696168
Do you really think that makes a difference? If someone dumps you and says "it isn't you, anon" do you think "oh okay good, that clears everything up" and go on your merry way? And this is a far more serious situation than that.

>>18696151
>>18696159
>I like watching it together
>I'd be concerned if he didnt't get off every now and then
Won't you feel you're not doing a good job at satisfying him sexually?
Assuming you find him fapping alone, and to vanilla porn.
Would you be upset if he was fapping to girls other than you? or maybe if he was fapping to pics of your friends?

>>18696186
How about if they hardly have any contact with eachother? It's not right to compare it with people who are having a relationship since they see eachother way more.

>>18696170
High, girls after 25 are no longer looking for a date, they're looking for a man.

>>18695656
True, in the sense that it's usually pointless to try and make sense of them - even if you succeed, you just end up understanding WHY they're crazy without being able to do anything about it, so just shrug it off.

>>18696033
You're friendzoned when you get the "lets be friends" speech. It is what it is m8.

>>18696191
disagree, more like girls 35+

>>18696203
oh and then they already have 2 kids, if you're lucky they are white and from the same father

>>18696188
>Won't you feel you're not doing a good job at satisfying him sexually?
No not at all, I understand feeling like masturbating instead of sex sometimes. It's like wanting a cheap hamburger instead of a juicy steak.
>Would you be upset if he was fapping to girls other than you?
Oh he does get off to the same women regularly, they just aren't real. I have felt jealous before but I can't do much about it.
>or maybe if he was fapping to pics of your friends?
Now this is crossing the line. I'd tell him to go fuck off straight away.

>>18696189
It might not, but you never know what their real feelings are. They could perhaps feel less sad but more guilty because they know deep down they weren't great parents. You never know until it happens and you are in their head but as an estimated guess yeah you can assume that it would hurt them a lot.

Girls, Have you ever been refused by a man whom you're interested in? How does it feels like?

>>18696213
What if they were ok parents but it had nothing to do with who their kid was or what his choices were?

>>18696188
I guess I might be biased because I love masturbation myself (porn not that much, though), so I don't know, they aren't really mutually exclusive to me. Sure I would prefer for my partner if I caught him to invite me to watch/finish him off/join him and not yell about his privacy and make me feel like this was a part of his sexuality I had nothing to do with. But the very fact that sometimes he just wants to rub one out or watch porn, not so much. I am only human so if he solely watched porn of women with features I do not possess then that might make me a little insecure but provided that isn't the case, I don't care. I like lots of different types of men myself, but not like a person I actually got to know and love for who they are.

Pictures of friends are entirely different though. They are people you are actually going to interact with (and who might feel very creeped out if they knew you jerked off to them). I would definitely not be comfortable with that under most circumstances.

>>18696215
Yes, definitely. Once as an eight year old kid, wrote this whole love letter to my crush and he ripped it to pieces in front of everyone and said I was ugly. I cried mostly because I was so embarrassed. He apologized to me the next day, he was actually a nice kid and I'm pretty sure he just flipped because I put him on the spot and was really intense about how much I liked him, telling him I'd been in love for years etc. I was creepy as fuck essentially. Never bothered me that much but then again I was quite young.

Second time was by a friend of mine who was not interested in dating. He ended up dating my friend (he knew her before I befriended her, though) and that hurt a lot, I felt insecure and undesirable. I was fifteen/sixteen so very preoccupied with other people approving of me. It helped that my friend was really sweet about it and honestly mind blowingly patient about me crying about liking her boyfriend. I ended up telling him when she told me he suspected I liked him (I wasn't subtle), I didn't want him to keep analyzing everything I did. He was really sweet about it and because he was dating her he didn't even really go into not liking me, it was obvious. Not a fun conversation but he was very kind and I got over it a few months later.

These are the only cut and dry ones but I have been implicitly rejected as well (guys ignoring my suggestion to hang out etc). That I never really cared about other than disappointment, big or minor depending on how much I liked him.

>>18696191
>>18696203

Even tho this guy has no experience? I don't even know how to unclasp a bra. I've only had sex once before, and that was just a quickie so only thing that came off was pants..

>>18696206

I refuse to be a step dad.

>>18696240
So do I, went that way once and she still fucked my life up. Unbelievable.

>>18696237
Well she might settle for you when she knows all her other chances are literally fucked to 0. But not because she really want to, just because you're the best thats left.

>>18696237
If she's a women worth having sex with she'll just laugh it off and find it adorable.

>>18696242

Oh..

>>18696247

Well I hope you're right. I got made fun of by the one girl who I did. I regret it a lot now.

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>>18696166
>Pulling out pubic hair with a tweezer

Girls, Have you ever experienced a guy who didn't erect during sex with you? How does it feels like? I think it scratches woman's pride a lot

>>18696255
blame modern society

girls are no longer stimulated to get into healthy relationships and start a family, they are all being stimulated to 'be free' and have lots of sex and the constant validation of their shitty photofiltered pictures on social media makes them even worse

>>18696247

That would be sort of emasculating... having a girl laugh as she watches a 30 year old man try to figure out how a bra works..

>>18696262
Not where he didn't get one at all, but I've had sex where he clearly wasn't all that hard. It didn't bother me much at all. Sure there's the nagging little voice of hoping I didn't do anything to turn him off, but if you're having sex well then you get other forms of feedback than just the state of his dick. And I am well aware that a lot can impact penises, from alcohol or lack of sleep to stress and nerves. It comes with having sex with a fallible human being and I like to do that very much.

It can scratch women's pride but I think this has a lot to do with the cultural trope that men are fuckstuds wanting to do it whenever wherever 24/7, and that not being in the mood or not wanting to have sex because you are tired is reserved for women. Which makes them feel like they caused some freak reaction.

>>18696266
Not laughing at him obviously. I think the best way to do it is to just giggle and guide his hands while you kiss him like you really desire him. But that's just the experience I've had and it always led to good sex.

>>18696266
If you think it's emasculating for someone you're hooking up with to laugh because something doesn't go right you have bigger issues to tackle. When the tension is high and you are horny and bothered laughter tends to be near to the surface anyway. Besides bras just aren't that easy, I turn mine around before I undo the clasp myself. Just because someone laughs doesn't mean they have some intense opinion on it, sometimes it's just funny to see something not working out the way intended. As long as you can laugh at the situation yourself as well it's no issue. I have also had this exact situation with a guy who had had sex in a LTR for five+ years. It's not exclusive to virgins to have a fumbly moment.

Guys is this normal?
>be me
>have bf for 2 years now
>loving, caring and gentle
>do chores most of the times
>relax with "edging" to porn
>ask him if I can join him
>he answer "Nah, I'm good"
I don't understand, is this a guy ritual thing?
The sex is good and satisfying but refusing sex to masturbation?

>>18696281

Well, I guess that would be more comforting. But I just have a hard time imagining a girl being that cool with a 30 year old man not knowing jack shit about what to do.

The girl I did a quickie with. That was years ago and from a dating website. We messaged for weeks before that. She was very flirty and talked about how she wanted me to dominate her. Obviously, I made a fool out of myself because I had no clue what I was doing. She could tell..

>>18696283

I'm not looking to "hook up"

After this experience, I promised myself i'd never do that again. >>18696293

>>18696301
Whatever, I'm not a native speaker, hooking up to me is starting the works leading to sex. If you are looking for a relationship it applies all the more that if you feel your partner might be laughing at your expense, you have bigger issues than the mere fact that they are (namely that they are not nice people).

>>18696292
It really depends on what your comfortable with. Are you comfortable with him watching porn? It's pretty common to also jerk off. Sex for men can be high stress because you're expected to be the one to perform, and jerking off can be nice because you don't have to worry about disappointing your partner. Sometimes I get in the mood to jerk it but not have sex

>>18696258
It's really painful if you do it one hair at a time.
And it's a good way to build up pain tolerance for the sub.
Also the erotic grooming is a huge turn on for many women.

>>18696293
Hey you know some women might be into showing you the ropes! And well what I can tell you is that what happends before and after the deed is more important (to me atleast). Be honest with her, a good person won't make fun of you for your inexperience.

>>18696262
>>18696277
As I guy, I'd feel bad and embarrassed.
I once couldn't get it up with gf on valentines, she was a little bit upset but very understanding.
after sensual massage, a vacuum blowjob, I got somewhat erect.
She then decided to simply to cuddle while scratching my dick with her nails.
Needless to say after half hour of this we were having sex.

>>18696314

I just worry because it seems so unmasculine. I mean, I don't really care about the fact I didn't sleep around during my 20s or have sex the past 8 years. That doesn't bother me. But the thought of me being with a woman who would surely automatically assume and expect me to be experienced, then having to explain to her I don't know shit sounds humiliating. As men, we're suppose to be sexually experienced...

>>18696328
>I'd feel bad and embarrassed
Understandable but be aware that anxiety about it happening again is a huge component in actual ED developing. You cannot force your body to do stuff like a machine. Sometimes it's just not there.

>>18696237
>I don't even know how to unclasp a bra
I think that's cute.
Sometimes it's erotic to have sex with clothes on.

>>18696330
I have been with one man in my life, he gave me my first kiss, fingered me for the first time etc. Yes he showed me how to jerk him off and gave me cues here and there, but the majority came natural and more importantly, I was astounded by how much I could show him. Not just that he fingered me too rough and oral wasn't doing it for me (apparently because his ex-girlfriend had different preferences) but I taught him about edging, we did a bunch of stuff for the first time together. He had had several sexual partners before that and a LTR that lasted five years.

Sex isn't the kind of thing that either you know or you don't. Sex is a new dance with every partner (save for the most easy basics) and when people don't learn it's typically not because they didn't have experiences but because they were too self-conscious to do things differently, or because their partner did not communicate, because they had a comfortable routine etc. Basically do not fall into the trap that just because you're not experienced and others are must mean they are better at it than you are. It's not as linear as that by a long shot.

>>18696338

How old were you tho?

>>18696311
>Are you comfortable with him watching porn?
Yes, we watch porn together sometimes then we have sex.
>jerk off
But he doesn't do that, he just stroke it to get erect with out cumming.
Even if he does, I'm fine with him masturbating, but wouldn't you want at least a handjob?
It doesn't have to lead to sex too.
It feels lonely for me you know.

>>18696346
21.

>>18696356

I'm 30, I feel like there is a difference in what's acceptable for being inexperienced

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Girls:
What are some good topics to talk about in conversation or to keep it going?

I car-pool with this girl from work since we both live close to each other, and the ride is about 30 min, we spend it in awkward silence because I don't know how/what to talk about and she's a shay person.

>>18696292
>The sex is good and satisfying but refusing sex to masturbation?

You kinda have to ask him. I've never been in that situation (I've never lived with someone else)

If he was really edging, then he probably didn't want to cum and that's why he declined sex. And sex and masturbation are two different things. It's fair to feel like one and not the other.

Still, if this bothers you, TALK TO HIM. Communication is key.

Girls, Do you have complex about your tits size like man who care about their dick size?

>>18696382

Speak for yourself, dude. Some of us don't have complexes about our dick size.

>>18696386
Many guys worry about their dick size before sex. They are insecure about whether they fullfill her or not

>>18696380
>You kinda have to ask him
I did, I asked him if I can join him, I asked if he would like me to do it for him.
The best I got was to masturbate with him in the same room.
I asked him about it, he told me he does it to relax.
So is this something many guys do? or it's just my bf?
>>18696382
I have a complex about my uneven breasts, never compared mine to a different woman.

>>18696292
not really no.

>>18695914
Yes, you're an epic fail

>>18696404
>So is this something many guys do? or it's just my bf?

As I said, I don't know. I masturbate even when dating and getting regular sex, but to be honest I have never even thought about masturbating when I was with a girl. Also, I haven't had a 2 year long relationship either.

All I can really offer is what I said, "sex" and "masturbation" are similar, but not the same. One doesn't replace the other.

>>18696362
This is true but was not the point of my post (I am a woman so in general it won't be received in the same manner, fair or not), just that sexual skill isn't -as- closely tied with experience. Also many men with numerous bedpartners have had a lot of one night stands, where the woman isn't going to give frank feedback and the sex itself is typically basic and playing it safe. That way you can have five extra partners while not having learned anything useful for a future relationship from it.

Girls, what do you think about the guys' fascination with tits?

>>18696382
It is much more individual for women. With my tits I went through phases. When I was a teen I worried that they weren't big enough (stupidest thing is that my tits aren't even small). Then I worried that my areolae were too big. Now my worry is whether they're perky enough.

I don't think there is any body part that women are -as- universally insecure about as men at least often seem to be. But there's a lot to choose from (ass, tits, vulva, proportions/size in general, you name it).

>>18696528
I get the idea lately that it is now more common/more of a priority for men to be into asses than tits.

Either way when I grew up I definitely thought that tits were the #1 indicator of interest for men and I was pretty obsessed with them myself. I no longer am both because of the ass craze and because I have mixed feelings about my own breasts (>>18696530 is mine, I have normal/decent tits but no show stoppers like often posted online). I still love to see a great pair of tits on a woman though and feel like they are unfairly dismissed sometimes now ("udders" etc). They are so plain in view, the very part where it's natural to see a woman's bare breasts and face in one frame is very hot to me, they are so quintessentially female. Plus as a woman I understand how rare it is for everything to work out (symmetry, perkiness, size, shape, nipple-breast proportions) so I am quite impressed with someone hitting all the criteria.

>>18696540
Do you have any pic that you think perfect tits?

>>18696521

but I don't know anything about sex, emotional connection shit, dating and stuff. Girls at 30 expect 30 year old men to know this stuff. Not to be as ignorant as a 15 year old on this topic

For girls: I am the first guy my girlfriend has ever been with and she's the only one I have truly been with.
We also have only had sexual relations just with each other.
Now the question: She always tells me that my penis is big and that she's very satisfied with it. But can a virgin actually judge that? I mean... she has no comparison.

I read a lot of shit here from high school or college age kids, but I'm interested in what 30 year old plus women want in a man.

>>18696607

If you're having sex, she isn't a virgin and if she's enjoying the sex she's enjoying the sex. What, you want her to fuck around for a while or something?

>>18696607
What's your girth and length?

>>18696312
Good way to get some nasty foliclitis too. Remember to disinfect and balm afterwards.

>mid twenties guy married
>initially we'd have sex around once a week
>then once every two weeks
>then once a month
>now its less than once every two months
>refuses to do anything with me sexually
>explained that "its not you, its just my sex drive has plummeted and i dont feel like doing anything sexual"
>got a new full time job and not having any intimacy with my wife is becoming increasingly more stress inducing

I've approached her multiple times about the situation explaining to her how it isnt just about sex and that i feel super rejected and hurt that she is totally uninterested in me etc etc and she just wont do anything about it.

>>18696631
That's part of the game, I gently rub the area after plucking the hair, or simply tease her clit with the tweezers.

>>18696633
She's fucking someone else.

>>18696292
Idk about him, but if I'm trying to edge and my gf wants to help I believe it would become more of a chore. I'd have to keep choaching her and making sure she doesn't over do it. It's a very exact art and doing it by proxy isn't any easier. If you just want to do it with him catch him when he isn't planning on doing it, or isn't doing already. Then you can finally test the waters.

>>18696656
She isnt, I know this because she literally never leaves the house aside from going to work once a week and unless shes fucking her gay co-worker during break she doesnt have the means let alone the desire/opportunity to do it.

Her sex drive has shriveled up to nothing.

>>18696619
Dunno about girth, length is 6.5.

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>>18696184
>she has two kids
Do yourself a favor and forget about her. She will never see you as male. Install tinder and find different girl, preferably without children yet. Stop being such huge beta male.
>she keeps texting me
Block her. Throw away your phone, get new number and ignore the slut. Stop being her emotional tampon. The sooner you cut her out from your life, the sooner everything will feel better. You have your own life to live. I know you will ignore my advice, but i tried. Feel free to continue living as backup man. And no, she will never give you her pussy. You would lose interest in her if you did.

>>18696292
Looks like porn is more entertaining than you. Lol. Next time dont ask and simply rape him on spot.

>>18696366
http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/these-36-questions-can-make-you-fall-in-love-with-anyone-a6772366.html

>>18696607
Try oral sex on her, foreplay and cuddling. Your size of dick is practically irrelevant for her enjoyement.

>>18696611
They are already married or pic related.

>>18696633
Congratulation. She never liked sex in the first place and used it only to lock you in. Buy magic wand, cuddle her without sex and then give up and decide for yourself how important sex is for you. Divorce is always legit option if kids arent involved.

Also she is on birth controll right? That shit kills libido without fail.

I feel like shit. Instead of fixing myself, I pushed her away. I thought she was annoying and distant when really she was getting tired of my bs. It never occurred to me that I was doing anything wrong. I flirted with other women looking for the affection I wasn't getting from her anymore. Instead of giving me a straight answer when I asked if something was wrong she spent 6 months getting over me before dumping me. Only now am I starting to see how much I hurt her. I got into meaningless fights with her just to prove I could get my way. Things were so good before I bought into the whole "having to be the boss" thing my friends and parents urged me to do. I took her for granted and didn't realize until it was too late. I want her back. I won't get her back. I feel Iike I should tell her how much I am sorry for hurting her. Danger of drunk texting is pretty high. I'm clinging to unrealistic hopes. But abandoning hope is something I was never good at.

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>>18696686
Eat ice cream. Delete her number so when you get drunken you wont be able to hit send button.

>>18696382
It's not the size that bothers me, it's the shape.

>>18696607
Did you not know whether or not you enjoyed the sex you had with your first? Sure you have no means of comparison (provided she doesn't watch porn or doesn't have a keen eye for that) but that doesn't invalidate her opinion on your dick, especially on the sensations how it feels inside.

So I've seen this girl 3 times now. I'm 24 and she is 19. We have slept together twice now but so far I've only gotten head from her which she swallowed. She said she is on her period which is true as I saw in her bathroom. However she acts very childish in bed. She apparently has super sensitive skin and I'll be kissing and biting her nipples and she'll start to moan and gasp and shit. Then she just squirms around a flips over and keeps playing around. Starting to get kind of annoying. The last girl I was with (22) literally did everything I wanted her to do in bed with no resistance.

I'll give her till next week once she is off her period and see how it goes.

Any advice?

nb4
>stop seeing younger women

>>18696709
>>18696404
>>18696530
Pics or didnt happen.

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>>18696722
>childlish
>moan, gasp, play around
>squirms and flips over
Sounds like cheerful girl which actually likes sex, not like some dead starfish you have been with or like this anon >>18696633
Where is the problem? Make her suck your dick, slap her ass, show her who is the dominant male and cuddle the bitch?

>>18696722

>The last girl I was with (22) literally did everything I wanted her to do in bed with no resistance.

Then you are not that compatible with this one. Too bad, move on I guess. Keep looking for a girl like your ex.

Does period sex help allievate the symptoms? I don't usually have sex with girls on their period but I just started dating this girl and I would totally do it to make her feel better.

>>18696760
https://www.bustle.com/articles/58808-7-reasons-to-have-sex-on-your-period-because-the-health-benefits-certainly-outweigh-any-mess
Tldr maybe.

Girls,
a girl I asked out once and p much got ghosted by now works at a place I go often. She saw me and like froze, tunred 360 degrees and gtfo. I don't want to make her uncomfortable or anything but kind of need to go to this place, for shit I need and for friends. Do I just go and hope she isn't working? Makes me feel like a creep tobh.

>>18696782
Just go and if you see her just smile at her and go about your business. You should never compromise yourself to make someone else more comfortable. Especially if she had the audacity to ghost you.

>>18696788
>You should never compromise yourself to make someone else more comfortable.

Words to live by. You make people uncomfortable? It's their problem. Sucks to be them. You are the only important thing in the world. Everyone else is there for you, npto the other way around.

>>18696782

If you go often to the place, keep going, man. Her coworker will quickly point out you were going there before she started working there, so she'll know you are not stalking her.

>>18696798
>>18696788
Thanks. I just felt super gross at myself when that happened like wtf lol, I didn't even have time to react to her before she turned away. Hadn't even considered she might think I'm stalking, but yeah bunch of the people there know me.

>>18696647
Disinfecting would still hurt though. Stop pimples from forming. Win win I think.

>>18696667
>if I'm trying to edge and my gf wants to help I believe it would become more of a chore
Guys, you sometimes complicate things that doesn't need to be complicated.

>>18696677
>6.5
You're average, she's just too tight, both of you are inexperienced.
Make sure she's wet enough, use lube, there are pre-lubricated condoms.
Also a girls vagina should get loose when she's sexually excited.

>>18696873
What do you mean? If I'm trying to edge for half an hour and my gf helps and accidentally shortens it to 5 minutes, then would it be so wrong to have wished I had done it myself?

>>18696680
I'm just trying to break awkward silence.
not get into her panties.

>>18696873
I had no idea edging was a thing like this. Those two guys just have porn addictions.

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>>18696731

>>18696885
>boy talking with girl
>not trying to get into her panties
Why would you lie on internet anon?

Anyway girls are like boys. Talk about anything. Fight your autism.

>>18696853
>Win win
You have no idea, one time I just kept teasing her by asking questions that she has to answer no.

Guys,
If you had a twin, would you be OK to have a threesome with them?

>>18696893
>Those two guys just have porn addictions
I'm not addicted to porn, I just like feeling erect.
Also getting erection stimulate the parasympathetic system which help you get relaxed, and help me unwind after long day at work.

>>18696896
She's lesbian and I'm asexual.
We talk but the conversation soon reach an end.

>>18696908
I'm not sure how relevant that was, but as long as you agree.

>>18696910
A female twin?
Identical twin?
Be specific.

>>18696913
Meh its still weird + depriving your girl, so I'll leave it out of my list of ubermensch qualities

Girls

what do you think about your tits? general thoughts..

>>18696925
Don't get me wrong. If I knew that my gf could do it just as well(or even slightly worse) than I could then I'd be more than happy to have her help

>don't fap for a few days
>fapping by myself
>cum and shoot long, thick ropes

>dont fap for a few days
>with girl
>on top of her about to give her a facial
>cum but only let out one small rope and the rest just comes out

Why?

>>18696938
okay just to play devils advocate why can't you use her to edge if shes down

>>18696931
Do you really use this thread as fap material? Cant you use red library or something else?

>>18696940
I bet you fapped (and edged) way longer than with the girl. Also you probably has some kinks your g cant fulfil.

>>18696938
You have to teach her anon. With enough practice she will learn when you are on edge and will be able to tease you for hours.

How do you deal with always being the one to show initiative in the relationship. I'm always the one asking if I can come over or when he'll visit me, He'll never invite me to anything. I'm trying to get him to invite me to spend christmas with his family and he's already being vague. I get along well with his parents and we're serious about eachother so I don't get why he doesn't ask me himself.

>>18696931
I like them. They're small, but they're very symmetrical and they have a nice shape.

>>18696943
I wasn't the guy you replied to, I figured it was just a carpet statement.
Either way I already said I could, I'm just also saying that I don't think my gf would know how to do it right. I'm not saying this is a problem I'm having, but if it were I'd certainly let her practice, but if I just wanted the end result, then I'd prefer to do it myself.
Same goes for you >>18696946

>>18696947
You probably doesnt mean as much to him as you think.

You are probably clingy gf with no real hobbies apart bugging your bf.

He is maybe introvert and you are not.

He is super lazy.

Have you tried to ask him what do you mean for him? He will probably turn into that husband who rather fap than have sex with his annoying wife.

>>18696946
why do you have the assumption that i jerk off to texts about some tits? thats not how guys work, we are visual. I dont know anything place i could ask this, think an anonymous image board would be ideal.

>>18696950
have you ever had big boobs envy?

>>18696965
Not really. I did have thoughts along the lines of what it would be like to have big boobs, but I didn't exactly want them. I'm tiny, so they would probably look strange on me. Plus, I like sports, so it's an advantage that they don't get in the way.

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>>18696960
How is it clingy to want to spend Christmas with your SO?

He is both somewhat lazy and introverted but I think I fit that desciption quite a bit too, Still, when I want to hang out I'll tell him. He doesn't.

I haven't asked because I'm afraid of how he'll answer. His last two relationships have made him build a wall around himself and I think trying to pry it open will make him close up even more.

Women of 4chan, try this one on for size.

>You've been dating a guy for almost 5 years.
>The first two were long distance.
>You got engaged a year ago.
>You think he's the perfect partner. You love everything about him.
>He's always been good to you, he's always been faithful.
>He's responsible and working towards real future goals.
>You want to spend the rest of your life with him.

Now, he's bisexual. He had been in relationships and had sexual relations with both men and women prior to your relationship. He was open about this to you before you were engaged, and you went in knowing fully. Over the course of your relationship, he has come to realize that it's not as easy for him to give up sex with other men as he thought. He's never cheated, and you still have good sex regularly. But there are days or weeks that go by where he just doesn't seem sexually interested in you at all. You catch him masturbating to gay porn and he brushes off your advances. Another few days or a week go by and everything seems back to normal, but you can't help but feel like his needs aren't being met. He never brings it up, complains, or suggests an open relationship or anything like that. The few times you've slipped the idea in a conversation, he's brushed it off, but sometimes he seems despondent.

What do you do? You don't want to lose him, and you want him to be happy and have all his needs met, but you're also incredibly jealous and insecure and can't stand the idea of him being with anyone else, even sexually.

>>18696947
Ignore him, disrupt the balance.

>>18696989
Isn't that a bad idea? I don't want to hurt him in any way...

>>18696984

I'd probably see it in the same way as this....

I assume my boyfriend finds me attractive. He must do, as he actively tries to have sex with me. I have a very specific body type which he seems to enjoy, as he focuses a lot of me when we are having sex.

However, there might be times when he wants to look at women who have a different body type to me. It doesn't mean that our relationship is any less serious, or he finds me any less attractive, it's just that at that moment of horniness, he wants variation or something different.

I guess it's kind of the same with sexuality, only you're opening up the variation. There will probably be times when he finds you super hot and just wants to fuck you, then other times he might want to see something completely different.

I can understand your frustration, but try not to take it personally. Also, you've been together a long time and I think most people would struggle to keep that spark and excitement going for that long.

Have you tried discussing it with him? Asking if there's anything you can do to appeal to his kinks? Maybe watch some gay porn with him (if porn is your thing and you can find some cut guys?).

>>18697004
ignore him until he starts coming to you, sorry thought that was obvious.

>>18696984
You break up.

Im a guy mind you but my ex was bi. She wanted me to bring lesbian roll play into the bedroom but it wasn't enough to keep her around.

Nothung you can do but leave. There is no right way of doing it except breaking up.

>>18696983
>afraid of answer
Hahaha. You will join the statistics of divorced people. TALK TO HIM BITCH! Express your feelings. You got nothing to lose except somebody who doesnt care a bit about you.

>>18697035

I think you are projecting slightly. The original poster specifically stated that she had suggested an open relationship and he refused. It doesn't seem like he's forcing that lifestyle on her, merely taking part when he's by himself in the form of pornography.

>Girls
How do you feel about being in a relationship were you do all the house chores but your partner pays for everything?

>>18697057

Can't speak for a girl but my ex-girlfriend loved it. Loved it so much she ended up cheating on me while I was at work because she needed "excitement" and "you're never here" even though i worked 10-12 hour days usually 5-6 days a week.

Put that bitch to work IMO

Is there a such thing as too unattractive to be in a good relationship (where both partners are crazy for one another)? Does it change between girls and guys?

Is it ok to ghost someone after 4 years?
I've been with my bf for 4 years, for the 1st year he wanted out of the relationship to be with another woman and then for the past 3 years I've wanted out of the relationship.

I've cheated on him, I'm a toxic person and I'm mentally ill.

He uses the fact that I'm mentally ill to his advantage though. I get no say in the relationship on anything because my thoughts can't be trusted by him. He has been refusing to break up with me for 3 years, he's always told me I'm too mentally ill to make that decision.

I just want to be alone, I want to work on my illness alone and I don't want to be someone's enemy for the rest of my life.

>>18696922
Identical.

>>18697096
How about you both pretend to jump off a bridge but for real.

>>18697071
Yeah, and then she will cheat on you with a coworker.

>>18697096
This is a legit advice: kill yourself.

>>18697016

We've discussed ways to bring kinks into the bedroom, and we've successfully integrated some of them (like pegging, some role reversal, etc), and it's all fun and we enjoy the new variety. We watch porn together now and then, etc. It's just not the same and doesn't really fulfill the same urges or desires.

To clarify, I'm actually the guy in this situation. It's shitty because I am committed, and I'm serious about a life together. I've made a lot of sacrifices for the relationship, leaving my job and great roommates behind, moving to a new city, etc. and I don't regret any of it because I really do think she's as great a long term life partner as I could want. Our emotional relationship is strong and we've worked through a lot of serious challenges together. I want to start a family with her in the long run, etc. We've been co-habitating for a year now and being able to fall asleep with her by my side and wake up to her every morning is a beautiful thing.

Sometimes though I'm just not sexually interested in her for a couple of days or even a week or two. I fantasize about being with another guy again (in a purely sexual way, never in a romantic way) and re-play old encounters in my mind. I feel guilty about it in a way, because I know how badly she wants to be able to fulfill all my desires, but she just can't. I had about equal numbers of male and female partners before her, and sexually speaking they just provide different things. In the 5 years we've been together, I've never even thought about being with another woman. She's everything I need or want in that regard.

I'll never cheat or do anything behind her back. She's brought up open relationships / three-ways etc a few times in a non-direct way and I've always played it off because I'm afraid if I actually told her how strong my desire to have sex with other men is from time to time it would crush her. It took us almost 4 years to get past her insecurity about my ex-girlfriend, even.

>>18696540
I wish I could get a gf who can appreciate tits, like you.

What's an appropriate frequency in which to criticize your SO?

My boyfriend complains I'm overly critical of him and feels like I'm on his back way too much. I usually bring up a few things I don't like or that bother me every day and he thinks that's way too much

>>18697035

See, this is exactly the kind of sentiment that makes me wary. I've downplayed this and done everything possible to help her feel secure and that she's giving me what I need in the relationship.

At first I thought that if I just held fast I'd eventually adjust, but it's been long enough now that I know I'll always have these desires. I'm strong enough to not act on them, but it would be foolish to pretend it doesn't affect my relationship and I feel like continuing to pretend it's not an issue isn't a great option.

Our relationship is stronger than at any other point in our five years, and we've got great long term prospects.

This sex thing feels like a huge distraction to me but I just can't ignore it any more.

>>18697133
Every day? I can see why he thinks you're overly critical. Is it the same stuff over and over, or is it something different every day? Because if it's the former then at least you're being consistent in wanting him to change that behaviour.

>>18697133
if its not like a change recently why are you nagging him? don't try to change people.

>>18697097
I'd probably have sex with him, since it's technically count as masturbation.
And then see if adding a girl will improve it.
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi7gwX7rjOw

>>18697057
I'd rather die.

>>18697057
Will you be paying my living expenses before we move in together? If not, then why would I quit my job to be your maid?

>>18697057
Unless you make a lot of money by working very little, no.
I'd end up sitting at home alone all day.

>>18697198
>why would I quit my job
No need to quit your job and I won't force you.
>living expenses before we move in together
Like?
>>18697210
>make a lot of money by working very little
Isn't that a lot to ask?

>>18697216
>Isn't that a lot to ask?
I'm not asking that. I am more than happy to work myself.

But if you work 70 hours a week to provide for us, and end up never being around and always being too tired to do anything, we will eventually drift apart.
If I am alone all day with shit to do, I'll eventually seek companionship somewhere else, and I am probably going to find someone equally as compatible who can spend time with me and make me happier than you can.

I'd rather work myself, so we can both work less, so we can spend time together.
So unless you manage to provide for both of us and eventual kids by working 40 hours a week, I don't see myself being a housewife.

>>18697226
>work 40 hours a week
>support two people and future kids
That's very selfish IMO, you're basically a gold digger.

>>18697226
>I am more than happy to work myself
OK.
>we will eventually drift apart.
Even if married? Also I understand if you feel lonely but it's not like I'll never be around, and after a night rest I can hangout.
>I'll eventually seek companionship somewhere else
In other words, you'll cheat on someone who's working hard all day to provide for you.
>I'd rather work myself, so we can both work less, so we can spend time together.
So both of you would be tired to do anything.

>>18697216
>No need to quit your job and I won't force you.
How am I going to stay at home and do the housework if I don't quit my job?

>Like?
Rent, bills, food, everything else I would pay for using the money I earn from my job?

At some point, I am going to have to quit my job. I'm asking why I should give that up.

>>18697235
>you're basically a gold digger.
Dude, the chick is saying she's willing to work more so that you can work less.

Not exactly a gold-digger.

>>18697260
>I would pay for using the money I earn from my job?
Assume I'd pay for those as well.
>why I should give that up
Because you don't need to earn money?

>>18697235
That's 8 hours every weekday. The quintessential 9 to 5 job. Seems like a reasonable amount to expect.

>>18697267
>manage to provide for both of us and eventual kids by working 40 hours a week

>>18697269
>Assume I'd pay for those as well.
Before we live together?

>Because you don't need to earn money?
Just because I don't need money, doesn't mean a job wouldn't fulfil me in other ways. Working isn't just about having money.

>>18697280
You clearly don't understand what the term "gold digger " means.

>>18697272
Some jobs require more than 40 hours a week.
I'm general contractor, and sometimes I go away for few weeks.

>>18697287
>Before we live together?
As long as we are in relationship, then yes.
>Working isn't just about having money.
What kind of fulfillment?

>>18697299
Not her but I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who'd have to leave me for long periods of time, let alone have them be my sole provider.

>>18697288
>gold digger
A woman who cares more about a man's bank account than she does about the man.

>>18697301
>As long as we are in relationship, then yes.
So from the minute we are 'officially' in a relationship, you would be okay with paying all of my living expenses? Answer this: why should I be okay with this? What happens if we break up in 6 months? Then I have nothing to fall back on.

>What kind of fulfillment?
Social interaction, for starters. I've been unemployed and I've had jobs where I work from home, it's incredibly lonely. And what if I enjoy my job? You're expecting me to give up something I enjoy.

>>18697305
>I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with someone who'd have to leave me for long periods of time
That make me sad.
Though I understand why would you feel that way.

>>18697308
Incorrect definition of 'gold digger' aside, when you're in a relationship with someone who essentially IS your bank account, why WOULDN'T you care about how much they earn and can provide for you? You'd be stupid not to.

>>18697235
How does it make me selfish, or a gold digger?

>>18697251
>Even if married?
Of course. Getting married is not the end of the path, you still need to work on it.

>you'll cheat on someone who's working hard all day to provide for you.
I wouldn't put myself on a dating side after your first day at work, but eventually I might go search companionship or closeness somewhere else because you aren't offering me those.

>So both of you would be tired to do anything.
I'm not that tired after work. I work my normal 8 hours, 5 days a week and then am pretty okay when I get home.
When my boyfriend was working 12 hours a day, it was different.

>>18697315
>why should I be okay with this
Why wouldn't you?
>What happens if we break up in 6 months?
We each go our separate way.
>You're expecting me to give up something I enjoy.
Not at all, but as you said you more likely to be working 40 hours a week, your partner is probably working more than that.

>>18697324
>Why wouldn't you?
Because if we break up 6 months down the line, I have nothing to fall back on, you moron. It's easy for you to say "We go out separate way" - it's not that easy when you've been financially dependent on the other person.

>Not at all, but as you said you more likely to be working 40 hours a week, your partner is probably working more than that.
I never said that, and yes you are expecting me to do that. What does how long my partner is working have to do with anything? Also you failed to address the point I made about social interaction.

>>18697323
You want a man who have it all, time, power and money.
And you can only have two at the same time.
>selfish
Because the man is working extra for you.
>gold digger
This
>I'll eventually seek companionship somewhere else, and I am probably going to find someone equally as compatible who can spend time with me and make me happier than you can.

>>18697235
lol I see where you're coming from but no.

>>18697332
I don't think you have read my post.

If you make enough money to sustain our family decently and have time to spend with your family, I will happily be a housewife.
If you make enough money to sustain our family decently but to do so you have to work 70h/week, you'll end up being absent which is bad for me, for our kids and for you.
If this is the case, I would prefer if both of us worked 40h/week so when we have time off we can actually enjoy each other's company, be both there for our children and actually do something.

>>18697323
>you aren't offering me those
OK, How often do you want those?
Everyday? working for long periods mean you get longer rest period.
For example if I work for 4 weeks straight, I get two weeks with nothing to do and stay with you.
Will this be good?

Also I think resorting to having an affair without at least speaking to your partner about a problem you're having in your relationship is disgusting behavior.

>>18697330
>failed to address the point I made about social interaction
It's not like you'd be locked in the house all the time.
I'm assuming you're a human being not an animal.

Guys and other girls: if you don't feel naturally inclined to be with someone are relationships just not for you?

I don't look at couples and think "Feelsbadmanpleasekillme.jpg", or see romances and feel an ache in my soul. I don't want to be loved. Being loved sounds painful.

However, because everyone else is so hung up on relationships, sometimes I feel bad by proxy. "Wow, there must be something wrong with me beyond the obvious stuff. I'm sub-human." And eventually "it's depressing not to be on anyone's radar..." because of my severe self-esteem issues. So yeah. Stupid. The feeling bad part is just a extension of the pettier part of me; the one that wants to be kind of cute and not some sort of troll. The one that wants what she can't have. I hate being like this. I want to be independent and not give any fucks to my arbitrary feelings, or shallow stuff like caring too much about being attractive.

t. virgin ex-fat girl going into her last year or two of university...ofc the only remotely "romantic" experience I had was when the class bully (probably the Chad too now that I think about it...)- who was older than me (12) made fun of me by sarcastically treating me (10--I skipped 2 grades) like a princess. On the bright side at least he didn't hit me or call me names. Most people that are bullied have it waaay worse.

>>18697226
>>18697216

I think all of ya'll dumbasses got triggered too hard to notice the fact that she specifically said:

"I'd rather work myself, so we can both work less, so we can spend time together."

That's pretty respectable and understandable.

And as someone who grew up with a workaholic dad who I never knew whether he was even in the house or not (went to work before we woke up, came back after we slept, would constantly be out of the country on business trips. Sometimes he'd be gone for weeks and I'd only know when he came back because my mother would mention he was gone)--that shit spills over to children too.

I know I certainly don't hate my dad, and if anything I feel respect for him.... but neither my brother or I have any real relationship with our father, and shits just awkward, because I know he feels like shit about it too.

>>18697359
>OK, How often do you want those?
I want them daily.

Lots of projecting anyway.

>>18697359
Not her, but companionship and relationships aren't like pets where you feed it once every so often and it's good for the next few hours. It's a constant thing

>>18697369
When all of my friends are working, who am I supposed to hang out with? Also now you haven't addressed the new points I brought up.

>>18697384
>That's pretty respectable and understandable.
In theory at least, IRL both partners would end up too tired to really do anything.
And the "time you spend together" is a time you spend fighting because you can't unwind from the work's stress.
Also there's difference between workaholic and working long hours.
But the fact you exist means he had a time to spend with your mom.

>>18697385
It's all hypothetical actually at this point.
But you're very demanding person, in a relationship you need to compromise.
You'd figure it out when you get older.

>>18697386
see this >>18697369

>>18697419
>IRL both partners would end up too tired to really do anything
A normal job doesn't get you exhausted.

I come home from work, cook dinner, then clean around a little. By the time my boyfriend gets home with groceries for the following day, we're ready to have dinner and then we can chill together (now we are fixing furniture) till it's time to bed.
Plus - weekends off. We travel and do tons of cool shit on weekends.

>>18697430
I asked two things
>Daily time to bond as a couple and as a family
>Enough money to live decently

If you can manage to work relatively little (40h/week) and make enough to live decently on your own, then I'll gladly be a housewife.
But if, in order to make enough money to live decently, you have to work 70 hours/week and you are never going to be around, then I would much rather have a job myself so you can reduce your hours and we can both work less and have time for us.

>>18697096
Your boyfriend is abusive and mentally ill himself. Every person has agency, make your own decision to cut contact with him and do so.

If he doesn't accept you're broken up, that's his problem. Not yours. Get him the hell out of your life and talk to a trusted friend or therapist about this to help. Because he is not good for you.

Girls - what goes through your head when a guy cant get it up for whatever reason? Should i be mortified, or is it just an inconvenience to us both?

>>18697371
>virgin ex-fat girl
You're a big girl
>Being loved sounds painful
For you.

>>18697494
>what goes through your head when a guy cant get it up for whatever reason?
"God, he must feel terrible."

I'm talking with this girl I like A LOT. She is sending me messages... she first told me "so, you're here, why don't you contact me?". Then the convo went really confusing for me.

She will be on a 3 days trip, tomorrow. But I really cannot comprehend if she wants to be contacted or not. She told me that she probably won't be able to write to me, but she said... "Well, anyway, if you want, write to me."

I told her that I have a strange bad feeling that after this trip plus my trip that I will do from monday to wednesday the next week, she will not be likely to write to me again, ever. And that we will lose what we built till now, and that I'm sad about this. She told me I'm being paranoid.

But the fact is that she is writing to me with little words by now. And seems a little bit cold.

What the heck is happening? Suggestions? help me to understand this shit.

We're bot 30 btw.

>>18697475
Not him but just because you get a job it would magically make him work less.
I'm sure he doesn't want to work more than he has to.
In most likely hood, the act of you working would just make the gap between you increase.

>>18697502
>for you
Obviously?
>big girl
What does that even mean? I'm 100 pounds at 5'6...I feel fat but I don't think it'd be healthy to keep on losing.

>>18697494
Depends on the girls experience and how comfortable she with her bf.
For me I feel guilty because he's tired while I want sex.

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>>18697502
>>18697525

Great job anon.

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>>18697531
I'm sorry. :(

>>18696137
Either I jump on his dick if im in the mood, or I ask what kind of porn he is watching..

>>18696366
Pets

>>18697371
>>18697525
>>18697535

That guy was meme'ing on you. It was pretty funny, but don't worry about it.

To answer your original question, don't overthink it. You're fine, and it may just be that traditional relationships aren't really for you.

There's nothing to feel self conscious about, nothing to worry about, and no reason to think there's anything wrong with you. Don't get yourself into a situation that you're not comfortable with.

You'll end up in a relationship if it's right. Don't actively try to avoid it, but definitely don't force anything or go looking.

>>18697505
Ask her on date. Keep sending her random memes in the meantime.

>>18697371
>Guys and other girls: if you don't feel naturally inclined to be with someone are relationships just not for you?

That's not what your issues are.

By your own admission:
>severe self-esteem issues
This is your issue. You do not feel worth being loved. You are afraid to get hurt. You do not like who you are and think no one else can.

As a dude who's been there:

This shit's all a defense mechanism that's clouding your judgement and skewing the way you see the world. It's a way to numb yourself to the things that you don't feel like you want to deal with.

I can't tell you how to fix it. It took me half a decade of hard work, a suicide pact, and a whole lot of dragging my ass to do all the things I exactly felt least like doing for me to get over my own sense of social anxiety and cripplingly low self-esteem.

I had to grind it out, until I was in a place where I didn't hate myself anymore, and realized I had some worth.

And then one day I just got lucky. I met someone, and I fell head over heels for her, and of course I fucking tanked it and we went nowhere, but from that moment on I realized... all that fear, all of that anxiety, all of that self-delusion, that was all of my own making.

The pain I felt, that heart wrenching agony that sat at the pit of my stomach from knowing that I'd failed, from knowing that I was rejected, that was WAAAAAAY.... Cleaner--way more refreshing and bright like the painful and sore sensation after a hard days workout--than the low throb of that sinking, almost chokingly heavy, tar-like sense of anxiety, of repression, of shame, and of self-reprobation that i'd been carrying around for years.

It was like a weight that I'd long since grown numb to lifted, I realized that I'd rather face the sharp pain of getting my heart broken, than that almost invisible drowning feeling of anxiety any day of the week.

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Is it weird if I eat a healthier diet than my girlfriend?

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>>18697502

>>18697573

What kind of stupid question is that?

I was outside a bar having a cigarette when a girl came over and asked me for a light. She seemed interested but I'm bad with strangers, especially when it's really good looking girls.

Anyway, when I went back inside, she stopped me to ask me my name and then put her hand out to shake it. Is a handshake worse than a hug?

>>18697437
>When all of my friends are working, who am I supposed to hang out with?

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>>18697577
She wanted you to ask her name and then have chat about memes and probably invite her over or extract her number. She wanted your D.

>>18697590
It is called tinder anon.

>>18697594
>It is called tinder anon.
Of course, then he can leave me and I'll take half his shit plus alimony.

Q

Folks, I'm only attracted to white women for some autistic reason.

Can anyone explain why?

Why did they delete my thread

>>18697576
Apparently my girlfriend thinks it's abnormal
>>18697591
That's amazing, I'm glad for her :)

>>18697603
Eurocentric beauty standards. Also, white women are hot.

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>>18697603
That is normal anon. White girls usually behave like girls, look feminine and are somewhat responsible and loyal.

Everybody wants to date fuck and marry white girls.

>>18697494
Its awkward on both our ends, trust me. I've been in that situation a couple times and I've always had the thought "Am I boring? Am I not sexy enough? Is he not interested?" even though I know these things happen and it's nothing against either of us.

>Male coworker tries to start conversations with me everytime we see each other
>compliments my outfits
>messes with me by making me flinch when we pass in the hall
>tries to make me laugh with bad impressions
>pretty sure he's flirting with me
>find out he has a gf when she stops by to bring him coffee
I'm confused. Don't guys only act this way when they want some fuck? What's his endgame?

>>18697560

I've fucked up, maybe. I told her that I will reach her asap in her city, after our trips.

But I rambled about ticket prices, that they are ok, implying that I want to see her again and again. I also said that I don't want to fuck her, and my intentions are to know her better, so she can stay safe, that I want something serious. She laughed, told me that I rejected her before she actually proposed herself. I asked her to tell me about her vision of sex and she told me that she doesn't need Love to have sex with a guy, but she needs to care about him. Of course I am dumb so I said to her "I think like you do, but I really would like to fall in love with you". She has an high conception of love, so didn't really care about this sentence of mine.

I'm kinda butthurt because I realized I don't know a fuck about love, and that this girl is way too mature for me.

I don't want to see her anymore.

So I think I'll be a forever alone for the rest of my life. And that's fine.

>>18697603
People are more attractive to those that look similar to themselves. Maybe because the imprinted on their parents.

>>18697620
Guys can have a backup plan too.

>>18697323
>straight up admission of a willingness to cheat
Roastie detected. This is just sad. I hope you are saying that this might happen, because of the shitty state of society, but for you as an individual to have this mindset without remorse is just depressing.
>>18697603
If you're white, it's normal. If you're not, it's the Jews. Stay away from white women if you are not white, and remember that it's only liberal trash you would get anyway. I don't care if you kill a few roasties, but please don't create any mongrels.
>>18697609
Try to nip the issue in the bud. She seems to have some problem with self-image and might end up seeking validation. If I were you, I would offer to start exercising together with her. Don't make it seem like you are doing it because she is fat (if she thinks that, it'll make it worse), though.
>>18697617
>another sex outside of marriage episode

>>18697620
Stay away. This just means he wants a relationship, but nowadays, that implies sex.
I have a girl I like and I try to talk with her, but I don't want sex. Unfortunately, that is not the norm.
In any case, keep your distance from that guy. Tell his gf the facts, too, if you can.

>>18697624
Maybe race is real and not just a "social contruct" the lefty academics jerk off about?

>>18697621
I have a pro tip which will DRASTICALLY improve your dating and relationship experience: DONT THINK. Seriously. You typed so much bullshit here, i can only imagine all the bullshit you send her.

Keep it simple: ask them simple questions like: wanna go grab dinner? Want to netflix and chill? Are you single?

Stop being so insecure and stop seeing validation from other people. Learn how to talk less, think less and do cuddling, handholding and kissing more. And try tinder.

>>18697620
Some boys endgame is to stick their penis into every single vagina around them at least once, but possibly more times.

>>18697637
Who invited /pol/? Stay in your containment board.

>>18697643
Sorry, can't do that. I won't bring up politics unless directly relevant, but I cannot idly stand by and watch leftist insanity destroy another generation. That's immoral.

>>18697643
Giving them (you)s means they win anon.

>>18697646
You ruined the last last thread you were in by making literally everything about politics. This is a thread for people to get advice from the opposite gender. Stop spamming everyone with propaganda replies.

>>18697611
>>18697614
>>18697624
>>18697637
Thanks, folks. I'm mixed black, though. I have brown skin color and look black, if that makes sense. I made a thread here, but it was deleted in like 10 seconds...

I feel ashamed because it's kinda expected of me to date a black/mixed woman. I also know that there is a lot of prejudice. I never asked to be this way.

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>>18697651
But reee leftiesss right?

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>>18697652
It's not really prejudice. Humans are biologically more attracted to their own race or at least whatever is closest to them.

You might have a better chance at latina women.

>>18697643
>>18697651
Ignore him, you fucking moron. If you don't respond, he can't shit up a thread. You're making the situation worse.

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>>18697652
>expected
You own nothing to the society, date whoever you are able to. And your thread was deleted because /adv janitors doesnt like racism, rape and suicide threads.
>what about asians?

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>>18697637
muh lerd and savious christian hitler is back. save us all my lerdy!

>>18697673
asians are very much not attracted to blacks. thats not racism, its the truth.

>>18697649
I am here to give advice, not collect (You)s, faggot.
>>18697651
It's not propaganda. I am presenting an alternative to the intolerable status quo, which simply drives wedges and sows mistrust between men and women. Telling men to accept women unconditionally of sexual behavior, or telling women to stop being "prude" and fuck more are both very damaging things, in a demonstrable fashion.
>>18697652
Look, thinking with your dick isn't going to get you anywhere. You got dealt an extremely shitty hand, I won't deny that. But I would argue that you actually have an advantage with black women--given thug culture/fatherlessness among the blacks here, the decent black women out there are quite eager to find men like you.
Source: family in social work, they said that middle-class black women were always complaining about the lack of good black men.
So go get em, anon.
>>18697664
reee leftiesss

>>18697675
Hitler was Christian. I am literally Hitler, though, not actually Hitler. I'm an agnostic with some philosophical beliefs in God as a system, although I do deeply respect Christian values on a broad level.

>>18697683
Drop your name and you will be cool dude. And dont feed trolls.

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>>18697696
You're just as responsible for killing this thread. Remember that/

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>>18697701
My soul will never heal. Why do you think you are so special so you can decide what is worth and what is not worth adv/ising anons?

>>18697696
I keep the name mostly to fend off the
>go back to /pol/
posts (notwithstanding a few assblasted /lit/ refugees). It actually helps keep the topic focused, in my experience, because I'm upfront about where I'm coming from. Sorry if it comes off as attention whoring, but my posting style is pretty distinctive anyway.

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Guys: What do you feel when you have a girlfriend but look at hotter girls or your ideal looking girl out in public? What if that chick is hanging out around? Do you try to look as much as you can? It feels weird for me, I know its natural and guys do it, but I'd rather my guy date the girl he thinks is the best looking, not settle for me. We went out for the first time on a nice vacation and had a heart-to-heart, we were having fun and I came back to him distracted by the same girl and he didn't even know I came back and when he did, he got caught off guard. How do I handle this? It isn't much of a jealousy issue, he is admittedly a shallow guy with a porn problem, but I'd rather him go for a girl that makes him the hardest...

>>18697640

Too late... She told me I'm playing games.

>>18697716

just drop the name breh, long run it will be better for you and you know it.

>>18696731
teardrop masterrace

>>18697736
There has to be absolute trust and loyalty for a relationship to work out. Your bf must have devotion to you and to your relationship as an idea.
It's natural for men to look, but to go further than that or to stare is inappropriate. You should be upfront about this.
Also, remember not to sell yourself short.
I would take a 5/10 girl who was loyal and saving herself to marriage over 10/10s every single time. It isn't healthy to be assuming inferiority to other women, anyway. He chose you.

At all costs, avoid the common Borderline trap of sinking a relationship because you convice yourself it will fail. I can tell you, if you actually cared for me (as a hypothetical bf, not literal--don't take this as shameless self-advertising) and I knew it, I'd be as happy as can be.

>>18697736
>i have negative self esteem: the post
If you drained his balls in regular intervals, he wouldnt get so distracted. Besides, looks fade in time, your ability to cook, cuddle and make him feel loved will remain.
>porn
https://yourbrainonporn.com/

Also decide on what you want. No reasonable gf will let his bf go without fail.

>>18697737
You can always pretend you said nothing and simply ask her on date once she will be back from that trip. Fight the autism anon and try to talk less and fuck her more.

>>18697737

I'm >>18697737

and you know what?

fuck you

fuck your redpill theories, that fucked up with my head. At the end it eventually will happen that you meet a girl you really like, and she tells you are playing games.

And you come as desperate, evil, and distrustful and not trustworthy, and the girl you really like punishes you.

She wanted to make me pay for all of this, she is a whore of course. But you know what, I'm done.

I'm gonna have sex only with hookers.

>>18697748
Maybe next thread, kek.
I'll give it another test run then.
>>18697757
>if you drained his balls
What planet do you live on to think this will help? Sex will just make any other relationships far harder to succeed in. Keep it for marriage.

>>18697757

man, thank you for your good pieces of advices, but I'm done. I don't want to be the friend of nobody, I don't want even to fuck her. Let her go with black dudes (all respect for them, I'm not being sarcastic in here), and with her vibrators. I'm fucking done.

>>18697736
There are always hotter men and women. Honesty, looks matter far less than personality if you're at least 6/10.

That's just me though.

>>18697752
>>18697757
>>18697775
He thinks I'm attractive, we constantly bang or I give him head whenever I can. I even remember he came before we went down... lol. He has grown up with the typical fantasy as most guys, the skinny girl with a nice ass and big natural tits, the blonde hair and cute face. I don't have all of that, infact my body was mutilated as a baby so I just literally don't have tits... long story. I've apparently changed his life and blah blah, I cared for him a lot and helped him in so many ways but I am not used to people like him, he means well but he let's the stuff he doesn't want in his life control him. He thinks the staring thing and having an idea of an ideal female body is linked to the porn addiction and growing up with social media... but I feel like it may be seperate. I told him he does not need to fix "staring" at women, that it is probably natural. However, I have my own problems with it that is a bit long and strange. I just can't deal with it. We just broke up and he is expecting to get back with me after he changes his habits and his life... I just don't know if I want him back, I'm not his ideal thing and I don't care if there's more than just looks, I don't know how important looks are to shallow "normal" people. I'd rather him go with the girl that always catches his eye with he's with me or alone. How can I get that point across?

>>18697761
>what planet
Ok lets give it a shot:
>7 days of no fap
>go outside
Literally anything what resembles female gets my attention.
>have fap few hours ago
>go outside
All i can see are just people. Unless i caught some female smiling at me, i wont even notice them.

On the other hand
>advising people to not have sex before marriage in this age and time
What planet are YOU from?

>>18697763
It is ok to decide dump her, but it is not ok to give up on relationships forever. You are old enough to get married or even make few babies. Dont throw your life and dream to bin so soon. Learn from your past mistakes and maybe find new girl so you dont end up all alone.

>>18697787
>we just broke up
Well, next time start your post with the most relevant information first. Dont wait up for him, stay few months single and then try dating game again. Good luck. It is obvious you have your problems to solve too femanon.

>>18697787
>He thinks I'm attractive, we constantly bang
Well, you're kind of stuck with him as the best you can do if you already gave him your virginity. Good luck, I hope you can sort it out.
You put yourself in a tough situation, and you will make it harder for yourself if you go back on the market. You've already devalued yourself, and this will make you seek lower and lower tier men, even worse than this rubbernecking goober.

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>>18697793
>current year non-argument
Opinion discarded.
The overabundance of vice does not make said vice less serious or less damaging.

>>18697793
>>18697800
>>18697787
It is one thing to just glance and then continue walking, but watching him trying to look over at this girl as much as possible as subtle as possible for the time we were there for a day was so odd. I opened up to him and I was showing him a different side to me but he seemed so distracted and to himself. It makes me feel gross for dating the type of guys I hate and always avoided, the guy that stares at girls and creeps them out, who stares at girls while holding their girlfriend's hands, I grew up with some bad times with guys and even my first boyfriend was forced himself on me a lot. It all reminds me of this and also a bit sorrow for the girl he's creeping on... I feel accountable for him and I feel it embarrasses the both of us when he does this. It was the first time I saw it while he was with me. I don't want to feel all of this, ontop of feeling not as hot as he would look, or feeling like he can throw away good moments with me over a stranger... all the of the pain we went through and just to go on a vacation. He showed me a video on how this is normal for guys and I already knew, but I didn't know he was this bad. I just thought we'd be all over each other. I don't think he can fix this thing specifically, and he has great motivation to get his shit together, his whole life, not just porn and perversions... But I don't want to be there. I think I'll feel all of this all over again as soon as the perfect girl stands before him. Sorry for the rant.

I just feel bad that he is expecting me to be there in the end, but I've given him so many chances for a year. I lost myself and I'm feel energized about being single again. I just don't believe in him to fix this specific thing and I hate that it reminds me so much of my past.

>>18697796
I'm not religious or associated with any r9k people in real life so that isn't an issue. He didn't take my virginity either anyway.

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>>18697800
But what if the marriage stability and happiness isnt related directly to body count, but rather to the IQ/being honest nice person?

Maybe saying
>dont sleep around
to sluts is as effective as saying
>dont be sad
to depressed people. Maybe the problem os elsewhere and increased body count is just a symptom. Maybe even if everybody stopped slutting around, the divorces and marriage falures would still happen as often as now.

>>18697736
Even if Kate Upton, or Megan Fox, or whoever the hot model is right now was my girlfriend, I'd still check out other girls once in a while. It's not always about being hotter, it's about something different.

>>18697800
You...you don't actually believe those sources, do you? They're known to be paid off by interest groups.

At least find a better graph with higher quality statistics.

>>18697821
What if body count and IQ/being honest are correlated though?

>>18697865
>They're known to be paid off by interest groups.

You mean like most studies?

>>18696292
As much as I love my gf and our sex life, sometimes I just wanna fap. Multiplayer is fun, but so is single player. I wouldn't sweat it

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>get out of 1yr relationship that felt very intense for its duration
>really upset, go through "she's a bitch; party hard" phase
>eventually realize how hard she tried and how great she was while we were together
>work really hard to analyze things. realize all the faults i had in the relationship, really intense
>try to get back in touch
>she doesn't really want to be in contact with me
>weird her out, probably was too intense
>really sad for a month or two
>get over it and realize it was all for the best
>Lots of girls talking to me, feel almost ready to enter into a relationship, but part of me is scared about what I'm going to mess up given how aware I am of my issues from last time

Any advices ?

>>18697652
I feel your pain. I'm black, white and spanish but have white skin. I've legit had girls being interested in me end up ghosting me once I sayed I'm black. I just recently had a girl lie to me about not wanting a relationship because I'm black. Saw her walking hand in hand with another guy who's her race last week.

>>18697600
A
>>18697608
mods r hitler
>>18697736
I guess it's already been explained but if I'm with a girl I really like sure there are going to be more attractive girls all around that are nice to look at, but they're just eye-candy at the end of the day. My girl is my girl, there's no settling involved.

Girls, Do you snore??

Dear girls, Do some women who don't like sex exist Irl?

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How do I get a tall gf?

>>18698222
Take a basketball class at your college

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>talking to girl for a while
>we have great conversations
>one day she stops answering me
>accept that it's over
>bump into each other in public and hang out for like an hour or so
>text her a couple days later
>no response
>accept that it's over again
>she answers a few days later and says she's sorry she missed my text
>try to start a conversation
>days later, still no answer
>once again, accept it's over
>she texts me out of the blue saying we should meet up
>confused, but go out to lunch for a few hours and have a great time
>text her tonight asking if she wants to go out for food again
>no fucking answer

What the fuck is up with this girl? Why won't she just stop talking to me altogether if she's going to ignore my fucking texts?

>>18698130
they're called SJWs

>>18698241
No idea. I knew (or still know?) a girl like that where she'd invite to things, parties etc and we'd have a great time and she'd be saying we have to go do something again and all that, but then she'd just not reply at all to texts or reply really late. Confusing as fuck and I give up every time but then she returns again months later.

Just don't bother with trying to know her man. She's flakey and it will just mess you up.

GIRLS: How easy is it for you to form relationships? I'm working on expanding my social circle but fuck if I know if I'm actually getting any success from talking to people.

>>18698238
I am complete garbage at and do not enjoy basket ball. Are there straight girls in rugby?

>>18698255
>Are there straight girls in rugby?
lol, no

>western men are so obsessed with women that they ask for advice on a Mongolian throat singing board
How did it become so bad for us guys? Is the short answer feminism and sexual revolution?

>>18698271
>>western men are so obsessed with women
>western men
>are so obsessed with women
Nigga please. All men want to fuck bitches

>>18698271
It's not being obsessed with women that brings guys here, it's that feminazi shit and being politically correct have got to a point where most don't know what to do anymore.

I'm 24, male, and don't have a car.

I've only ever had sex with two woman in my life, both of which I loved very much.
I have a hard time asking people out because I usually have to have deep romantic feelings for them first, which is hard unless we're already friends and I've gotten to know them already.

There's a girl I want to ask out, and for the first time in my life, I don't have a strong romantic connection to them already. We sit together at uni, and I see her once a week. I think she's pretty cool, and I'd love to get to know her better.

Problem is, I don't have a car or the means to even borrow one. How do I go about asking someone on a date without a vehicle to pick them up in? Asking someone to lunch or dinner, and then if they say yes, telling them I'll meet them there, or pick them up from their house and get a bus seems kind of lame and shit.

Is it possible to date without a car? Normally this wouldn't concern me when I ask someone out because I already know them well enough to guage if the car thing will be a problem, but asking someone completely new is terrifying to me.

>>18698251
I guess so. It's just so hard. I don't want to brush her off when she's coming to hang out with me. I mean, I don't mind being friends instead of a couple, but I wish she'd just flat out say what she wants out of me instead of jerking me around.

>>18698408
Just ask. Go all in next time you see her and just ask what's going on. There's nothing to lose really.

Hey girls,
My ex and I broke up about 3 weeks ago, it was a little painful but we kind of knew it was coming. I was kind of close to her family because we spent a lot of time doing stuff together. I was wondering what the boundaries might be in general when one contacts a member of an ex's family.

It might sound very stupid but I'm pretty attracted to her niece, she's turning 18 soon, and I'm curious if I were to be able to keep contact with her until next year, it wouldn't come off as too weird to the family.
My only concern is that she tells my ex or her family, and I'm probably not in the best position considering she has a somewhat overprotective mother and aunt (my ex). It did seem like she was attracted to me, but who really knows. We didn't have a very communicative relationship before, she would send me memes like any Gen Z kid would and we'd joke around, she'd ask my advice about school and everything.

Would I end up just getting my ass kicked? Would there be a possible way to go about this, girls? I would want to be very respectful and careful... I feel like just saying hi to her might be weird.

>>18698493
Oh and we were together for 5 years, so we actually do know each other pretty well.

>>18698493
Guy here, but I still see my brother's ex as part of the family and I'd drop whatever I'm doing to help her if she needed it. So, personally, still being friends with them isn't a big deal to me, but just at least give a bit of space between you for as long as you thin k is necessary.

I really don't think dating back into the family is a good idea, though.

Girls, How can i date with beautiful woman