increasingly despondent about meeting women

From what you say you seem not bad, definitely worth some girls
Maybe you just dont make the move? Or you are too friendly?

>>18681534
i do make moves, and always within the first three meetings (depends on context). i feel i have gotten better at them and i really think theyre not spergy. my normal thing is to say something like (after talking to them for a while) 'i really enjoyed talking to you, we should go for a drink some time so you can tell me more about <particularly interesting topic we both seemed into>' + smile and eye contact, no mumbling etc. etc. this is kind of what i mean, im sure im doing everything youre supposed to but its no bueno

maybe im too friendly but im not really sure what that looks like, or what i should do instead?

>>18681526
Probably just ugly or short, tough luck pall

Are you overweight?

>>18681674
ive been told i have a 6/10 face

im 1.81 tall and fit i would say, like if you looked at me by myself you wouldnt see im particularly gymmed but next to a skinnyfat person it would obvious

>>18681682
Well aside from the problem with the face it seems you are good to go.
Probably just need to keep doing what you doing

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>im on pof, okc, tinder, bumble, hinge and happn, but i rarely get matches or replies.
Sounds like you're not white, asthetic, or both.
Probably this >>18681674
You may need to lower your standards.

>>18681698
but ive been doing that for years now and nothing. surely that indicates im doing something wrong and need to rethink things?

>>18681717
i am white and i swipe everyone/message liberally

>>18681558
Yeah your normal thing to say kind of sucks
Watch the show Man Seeking Woman if you havent yet, maybe it will point out to your mistakes

>>18681723
Not OP but why does it suck?

>>18681558

>my normal thing is to say something like (after talking to them for a while) 'i really enjoyed talking to you, we should go for a drink some time so you can tell me more about <particularly interesting topic we both seemed into>' + smile and eye contact, no mumbling etc. etc

I'm no expert but I wouldn't personally do that. I'd talk to them for a bit IRL and ask for their surname and then say I'll add them on facebook. You can then just starting about the shit you wanted to talk to on there, gauging how willing they are to respond, etc. I wouldn't even try hard, just be very casual. I'd wait a few days if it sounds like it's going well and ask them out to play something like minigolf rather than a drink.

It worked the one time I tried it.

>>18681723
how come?

>>18681737
yeah this is always after talking irl, i never ask anyone out over text if i can help it. i find that if you wait too long and just be casual you give the wrong impression and get slotted into the friendzone, or some other guy steps in infront of you

i will give it a go tho

>>18681749

>i find that if you wait too long and just be casual you give the wrong impression

Yeah, I wouldn't give it more than a week. I reckon a timeline would look something like this:

>talk to girl, ask for facebook name and say you'll add her. add her later that evening/next day
>wait two days so it looks like you're busy or something and then be like hi
>talk for maybe a day or two on messenger
>ask out for an activity date
>if she says no, say fuck it who cares

I don't use anything like Tinder or Bumble. There's too many people on it and you end up trying too hard to stand out in a way that's not natural. If you're talking to a girl in a bar/cafe then you know you're the only one doing it and it's a more relaxed situation.

>>18681734
>>18681749
Its boring, not exciting, like someone would say.
Girls will not date you because you are nice, they will date you because you are interesting, confident and exciting to them. And exciting is not just a random word, it is a concrete feeling, like something rising in your chest and heavy heartbeating. Neither is confidence, confidence means your actions are not affected by anyone but you.

>>18681758
yeah that sounds like a good plan desu, thanks

>>18681771
what would be an exciting thing to say instead?

>>18681771
That just sounds fucking stupid though.

People are interesting/exciting based on what they do in life, not how they word casual invitations.

>>18681771
>>>18681771
>And exciting is not just a random word, it is a concrete feeling, like something rising in your chest and heavy heartbeating

I get this when I see a big pair of tits on a woman

>>18681771
>confidence means your actions are not affected by anyone but you.

If you run someone over, but you're confident in doing it, your actions still affect everyone around

what the fuck? why would you say that?

>>18681876
I believe it's called reading comprehension

>the usual advice on here
is useless, like always, possibly because it's typically given by women

hey OP, how come the biggest fucking losers, uneducated druggie idiots who flip burgers for a living have gf's all the time?

the only conclusion I've been able to come to all of that shit you did was a complete waste of time and energy unless YOU WANTED TO DO IT
if that is what it takes to get a gf then IT IS NOT WORTH IT
THEY ARE NOT WORTH IT

>>18681881
>evading the question

Why would you excuse someones actions because of "Confidence'?

>>18681883
>how come the biggest fucking losers, uneducated druggie idiots who flip burgers for a living have gf's all the time?

simply put, they believe they are better than the woman. they don't believe they are equals, they don't respect the women

they believe
they
are
better than

and because of this, the women feel they have something to earn.

If it's immediately given, subconsciously it feels wrong to a narcissist because they feel they have to earn something even if they don't quite understand what it is.

>>18681885
Are you pretending to be retarded or do you just not speak English?

>>18681893
>You so dumb, just so dumb

Why would you excuse someones actions because of "Confidence'?

>>18681895
No one has said that

>>18681896
>confidence means your actions are not affected by anyone but you.

literally said it

>>18681898
That's not the same as this
>Why would you excuse someones actions because of "Confidence'?


Again you probably just don't speak English so it's fine but please stop pretending to be retarded.