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NEET general.

I posted this yesterday, but no one gave a fuck... I guess I'll post one last time and see if any of you NEETs care.

I'm not a NEET anymore. I'm making this thread because I remember thinking: "if and when I get a job, I'll tell the NEET general that things CAN and DO change". And so here I am, writing this.

I was in uni when I got health issues, so I went back home. I lived with my mom at the time, in a small, poor town. After some months, doctors discovered I had HL, and I had to do therapy for a year. After that, I got depressed, and sat at home alone most of the day, most days, for some 4-5 years, barely doing anything, only trying to learn the things I liked (computer in general), sometimes trying to think how to get out of my shitty situation, but not doing much else. I was ashamed of being myself.

After reading some random stuff and processing it for a while, I thought: "I guess there is no other way to fix myself but to start small. I'll find something to do, keep doing it, have some patience, get some money and, from there, rebuild my life." So I started selling small, cheap stuff, and fixing computers/phones. I posted ads on facebook (there are some rather big sales groups), told my friends about it, and got some replies. Meanwhile, I made a website to learn about webdev, applied to some dev jobs and got some replies, but didn't get hired. Then some friends told me about a job, to which I applied... And I got hired. I'm still at it, 8 months later. It's been great. I've also saved some money.

I don't feel lke a good example to imitate. But still, this doesn't mean shit. Life isn't fair, nor it is a linear experience. I've suffered some shit, nothing saved me from having to endure that suffering. Shit happens, that's reality. Try to learn from it, and from others, and do something with that. Even in the worst situation, you CAN do something for yourself. Some people WILL help you.

So, get up and do it.
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>>18667648
Thanks
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>>18667648
I'll add some stuff:

If you want me to give you tips or help you with something, just ask.

English is not my first language, so excuse me if I made a mistake.

> I don't feel lke a good example to imitate.
I suppose this will sound sort of arrogant, but... I'm stubborn, kinda lucky, smart (according to people who know me, and judging by the things I've managed to do), and not bad looking (racism *IS* a reality). I guess this did help me... Which is why I don't feel like a good example.

BUT, I've been poor most of my life. Things changed for good only a couple of months ago. And it was a rather long process to try to change myself..

>inb4 made up BS
Go fuck yourself.

>>18667660
You are welcome.
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finally an advice thread on an advice board
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Finally another NEET thread...

A long time ago someone posted about Buddhism in a NEET thread. That's where I started getting interested in "spirituality" and am going to finish the goal of Adaita Vedanta, specifically by following Ed Muzika (he is better than Advaita Vedanta or Buddhism, both of which he is a certified teacher of.)
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>>18667684
>If you want me to give you tips or help you with something, just ask.
and I mean as practical as possible, not just random bullshit

>>18667688
:)

>>18667696
>am going to finish the goal of Adaita Vedanta, specifically by following Ed Muzika
tell us more
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>>18667648
It sounds like you got a lot of help from your friends, friends are something some people don't have at all
Shutting yourself from society ends up becoming a vicious circle, because I'm not part of society I don't know anyone, because I don't know anyone I can't be part of society
Also many neets have been alone from a very early age and never really experienced human interaction beyone the absolute minimum so that makes it even worse
When you are the bottom of the barrel there isn't much you can do to pull yourself together, I mean technically you can do anything but without help from other people you won't get a job or friends or make it through college
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>>18667801
>>18667648
>It sounds like you got a lot of help from your friends
Except, I forgot to mention a detail: I don't even know these "friends" in person, the ones that have helped me the most. I've known them for years from IRC, but not much more than that.

>Shutting yourself from society ends up becoming a vicious circle, because I'm not part of society I don't know anyone
tell that to someone that lived in a small town and barely ever got out of his room for 4+ years.
Protip: people are just people, they too have problems (sometimes MUCH worse than yours...). You are still able to talk to other people...

>When you are the bottom of the barrel there isn't much you can do to pull yourself together
Unless you are literally crippled, I doubt that. And, hell, not even... Some disabled people make some money by posting videos on fucking youtube.
Also, if you have some intellectual capacity, technology can help you A LOT, so there is no excuse to do nothing about your problems. Sure, it may take some effort and time... But if you are a NEET, you have wasted lots of time already anyway.

BTW, FYI: HL means Hodkin's Lymphoma.
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>>18667737
>tell us more
I only talk about myself

>be NEET

I have a different life thanks to that 1 anon who made the Buddhism post (even though I hate Buddhism), I have over the years posted 2 threads saying thank you but got no replies.

Ed Muzika is my hero... The only thing better than all this is if I stayed like I was as a kid, not caring about anything...

Also, I hate psychologists, they are liars. Ed Muzika is a psychologist too btw. He's a psychologist, teacher of Advaita, Zen Buddhism (though he's better than them both... But most of all, he led my life the way I wanted to go
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>>18667841
Btw.. by "hero" I mean literally he prevented me from failing at something - that's it, it's not just a saying
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2 yr neet now

mostly spend time figuring out how to handle my situation

i thought i wanted to make art and have that drag me out but im not so sure anymore. i still like it the same, but i think im being very naive about things.

i realized a couple of things in a short time. maybe it was the solar eclipse.
>i cant stop time
>im already an adult
>my grandma passed and i have to cherish her memory
Basically, theres no more stalling to improve myself anymore. Im already an adult, im myself. i know i have to always be myself as much as i can.
back when i was a kid some bad stuff coincided. my parents divorce, bullied at school, and grandma getting alzheimers. at that point i know i no longer felt like i was still me.
it got bad in uni and i attempted suicide. i couldnt belong anywhere and pulled out of my only friend groups because i was ashamed of showing them myself.
then i graduated and went home and parents were STILL fighting. felt like killing myself again. i walked around on eggshells and did everything possible to improve home life.
then i learned how to speak up for myself against my mother and my father, and to my surprise, nothing happened. they adapted and i got freedom.
about... wow, 5 months ago only, i told them my biggest secret, which was that i wanted to make a life for myself as an artist and i dropped out of premed (they made me go back to school and i originally consented because i wanted to get a well paying job for the family).
and.. wow now that i put things into perspective, ive come a long fucking way. i fought really hard. i cooked my brain black from anxiety. but i stayed with it, and my art improved, and my friends appreciate my honesty and bravery when it comes to speaking,
and last night i accepted that i cant hurt from grandma being gone anymore, i have to enjoy the memories she left me. and the fact that everyone older than me will become just memories.
damn adv. i needed this.
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>>18667829
>You are still able to talk to other people...
I'm really not. I can barely even communicate enough to buy groceries, let alone hold an actual conversation.
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>>18668506
One thing that really helped stop being miserable over the past so much is that yes it's over and It was horrible and I lost it forever and it's something that I will always carry with me and something that can not be fixed
But if I could go back in time there is very little I could have done different, the things that happened happened because I was a child living in a household with adults who never got their shit together and where completely unable to raise a kid let alone leave together peacefully, so what could I have realistically done about it? It's not like I was an equal to them, it's not like I had a say, it's not like that's something I could have ignored
In a way things happened the only way they could at least for me
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>>18668541
me too, anon. i dont think i could have changed things. i think my parents do wish they could have changed things or acted differently.
they dont fight anymore. theyre sort of realizing im somewhat stunted.
i have a baby brother ten years old. im doing everything in my power to make sure he grows up secure in who he is, to take loss and joy in all their fullness, to know he is supported, and l while trying NOT to be overbearing/smothering. its a stressful job, been at it since he was born. i do regret a couple things. somehow, when children are born, you sort of get used to them being there, and let them shoulder more burdens. never do this carelessly and casually.
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>>18668550
this may sound harsh but you cant help anyone if yiu cant help yourself first
i dont know your parents or your situation but i stopped talking with mine a year ago and im not going to claim i recovered but im certainly better than i have been in a long time
sure i dont see my sister and she never did anything bad to me but i think she would rather not see me than have to see me engage in a screaming match with my dad every time i visit
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I'm surprised this thread hasn't been deleted by the mods who let slip any many troll threads as possible.
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>tfw waiting for parents to die so I can blow their money living like a NEET

>tfw just want to wake up whenever, order pizza, smoke weed, and play vidya for 59 years straight

>tfw holding down a full time job for the past 8 years has been killer and I hate myself and I'm tired of paying rent and barely gettin' any video game time

>tfw it's too hard to upkeep friendships and maintain a video game addiction while working full time
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>>18669297
You could save some money and start your own business doing something that requires little work or no work at all, you could learn web development and make a couple websites you could profit from too like a porn website or something like that, if you live in an area with low rent and don't blow too much money you could support yourself with that
Alternatively if you still live with your parents you could offer to cook for them as a thank you and cook all their meals, add extra fat, extra butter, sugar to everything, fry in fat or replace far for butter when baking, make a salad but load it with cheese and dressing, etc so you can accelerate their death
Pay for their Netflix, offer to run any errands they need done so they can spend more time on the couch, buy them lots of expensive wines as presents, add a little more salt each time you cook, fill the pantry with chips and nuts and the fridge with cheese and beer etc
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>>18669450
I wish.

My parents are split, one lives well, the other lives like shit, and my sister already has her leaching claws dug into the one that lives well.

They're also still some years from retiring so it's not like they're in immediate need of in-house living assistance, so I'll keep on keeping on living on my own.
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Having a retail job is only marginally better than being a NEET but I wonder if it would be better just to get back on the dole.
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glad people like my thread, and that it took off (sorta... not really a lot of people posting) this time

>>18670396
what do you do? what do you like doing? do you have hobbies or professional aspirations?
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I've only been NEET for a month so I barely belong here, but fuck it.

I thought I could take a year off school and work for a year before going back to grad school, but I can't find a job. I have so many interviews and no hope they'll pan out. I feel like the jobs I'm going for are a losing game for me. I feel like I should give up and be NEET for a year. I'm going back to school anyway. My only regret is taking this damn year off.

Should I NEET it up? Work anything, even if it's retail? I can't go to school because grad programs only start in the Fall where I'm from.
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>>18670622
you are probably not getting hired because nbody wants to hire some guy who will quit by the end of the year
enjoy your free time, unless you are really extroverted you will find a way, my first year as aneet waws awesome
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>>18670622
do you have some money to buy/resell stuff? are you good with basic math/accounting? do you know what interest is, what revenue/earning are?
perhaps you could resell stuff?

also, if you want us to give you a more practical advice, we need to know your interests, so, see >>18670537
>what do you do? what do you like doing? do you have hobbies or professional aspirations?

>>18670648
I kinda agree.. being a NEET wasn't that bad. of course you let lots of stuff pass, but you also get to enjoy yourself a bit
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becoming a neet again after college has fucked me up hard.
i have some mental issues, but a lot of stuff was going well.
Since becoming a neet again I keep going through bouts of depression with old shit rising up. I really need to find a job and start my life anew.
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>>18670669
>do you have some money to buy/resell stuff?
Nope. Anything I get goes into my grad school fund.

>what do you do? what do you like doing?
Nothing that helps professionally in the short-term. I'm decent at childcare because that's what my experience is in but that's what I was referring to when I said getting a job is impossible for me. I'm a male, so I have to work like 5X harder than a female to prove myself and I don't have the education.

>professional aspirations
Why do you think I'm going to grad school? But no, nothing I can do about those now.
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>>18670673
thats a dangerous way of thinking
the whole i cant wait until X happens aand i can finally start my life
i bet there are plenty of thing you could be doingright now, who knows when you will get a job
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>>18670691
pick up a hobby?
if ots something you really like it can be uite fufiling
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OP here
Apparently, people ITT think I was making lots of money by selling stuff on FB...
No, I wasn't, it didn't even give me minimum wage. What it DID give me was some confidence, the realization that I COULD DO STUFF BY MYSELF, and that people are just... people, with their own problems, dreams, etc. Some were in a worse situation than me, yet they seemed really happy.
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>>18667648
I'm post depression. I guess my nihilism faded away when there's nothing to be depressed about. And my hate lessened.

Still life is whatever one makes of it. Even if has no value whatsoever.

I still don't want to do anything but fade away.
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I'm not sure if I'm qualified to post in this general anymore. But since my mind is still that of a recluse who revels in solitude, I guess I'll go ahead and get a few things off my mind.

I was a NEET not just one week ago. Parents were getting increasingly in my face that I was wasting away in my room, I hated existing as a burden, and I hated that I grew too tolerant of the status quo to care. My 26th birthday was imminent, and I tried to distract myself once more from the cruel realization that I was aging with nothing to show for it. There must have been one corner of my mind that desperately wanted to redeem itself, though, because I steeled myself to go outside and look for a job on my birthday, determined turn that source of self-loathing into a pivotal moment on which to launch myself free of the gravitational pull of the recluse life.

I stepped outside that day without any preparation in advance. No prior calls nor contacts to prospective workplaces, no resume in hand (not like the huge chasm that dominates the majority of my adult life would convince the employers to give me a chance), no planned-out speeches to indicate sincerity. Nothing. I cold walked into a local small-scale hardware vendor/computer help desk and told the manager, "I'm looking to be employed here." I was told that I would need a resume, but the manager wrote down a couple of details about me just to be safe. Honestly, I wasn't even expecting a courtesy reply. At most, I expected a small sense of accomplishment from having taken some kind of action. I got a call a hour later, though. A full time job, 5 days a week, couple of dollars above the minimum wage. It wasn't much, but I would have income while getting hands-on experience with electronics. I was over the moon.

cont'd
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>>18670949

But damn. I'm back home after finishing my second day of the job. I'm thinking "What have I gotten myself into?" The other employees are veterans who have been working in that store for years. They're zipping back and forth between various tasks; from taking incoming calls to placing orders to taking apart computers, just as precise as they're fast. I thought I knew something about computers because I did my troubleshooting on Google and took apart my laptop to apply thermal paste. I was fucking wrong. I was completely out of my element. It was all I could do to follow one of the guys around and wrap my head around whatever it was he did. Worse yet, getting a job didn't change me fundamentally from the stuttering introvert I was. The whole time on the job, I'm concerned about not getting in the way of people who can do the job better. It feels like I'm way in over my head. I feel suffocated and inadequate. I would like nothing more than to go back to sequestering myself within the safe confines of my room.

At this point, I'd like to ask if any of you have gone through, or are currently going through a similar experience. Did you have, or are you having just as much bitch of a time as I am? Did you manage to grit through it all until you finally adjusted yourself to your new environment? Would you say that being employed helped you distance yourself from the awkward individual you used to be?
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I want to be happy again, and I think I'm fucking myself over with self destructive tendenceis
I am pretty sure that I am doing this on purpose. I'm living locked in a state where I'm pacing back and forth in a tiny room. It can be not making any plans and whining too much on /adv/.
I'm just seeing some hypocrisy in my 'self improvement.' I think I see myself as fucked in a lot of ways, in the martyr sense.


Somebody once said it's possible to be addicted to being sad. I think that's my problem. I'm focusing on the wrong problems. There are a few key problems that would make me happy right away if I solved them, I just avoid those, and focus on meaningless ones.

Fuck me. I'm sorry, me.
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>>18670870
Try not to be affected by your environment so much
I think depression is an extroverted thing, sure by the time you get depressed there is no way to help you and nothing you can really do about it but why do you get depressed in the first place?
I think depression is an extreme form of hatred, it's certainly not sadness so if you didn't compare yourself to the rest of the world or the rest of the world to you and you didn't judge things then there would be no reason to be depressed in the first place right?
Does this make any sense?
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>>18670951
Similar experience? I dropped out of highschool and took 5 years to get my GED since I thought it was impossible for me to do so and I was too stupid and tests gave me too much anxiety but at the end I ended up passing with only one month of study and I could have done that at any point in those 5 years, I just thought it was impossible.
You don't know what you are capable of because you are a bad judge of character for yourself, I argue getting a job is harder than keeping it, try to reduce your anxiety as much as possible, everyone started not knowing anything and nobody is expecting you to be an expert, just take a little time every day after work to learn about this stuff, an employee Willing to take time after work to learn is an asset
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>>18670973
Big problems are scary, is it possible to break one of them into smaller things? Maybe you are fat and haven't been able to loose weight in a long time
Well, what is loosing weight? Eating healthy and exercising, I assume a fat person isn't eating like a normal person so that could he step one, not go on a diet but reduce your diet to a normal person diet, once you did that that's an accomplishment, then how about a little bit of exercise let's say a two mile walk every morning and you keep adding stuff once you already achieved something
At the very least if you stop halfway the problem got smaller right?
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>>18670537
>what do you do?
Stacking shelves in supermarket while aged 28.

I'm trying to get into some better careers but having no decent friends kinda kills my motivation.

Also my lack of sex (and female companionship) is sort of driving me insane and getting me down at the same.
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>>18667829
What were your symptoms of HL
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>>18670951
My first job was about completing central heating stoves, adding electronics and stuff. General I was slowly getting better at it, but I was under pretty bad pressure from coworkers, making me drop the job week later.
Brace yourself, the ride is gonna take a while and be happy if people aren't bitching at you.
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>>18671683
Yeah. I like that angle. I'm not sure what my big bogeyman problem is anymore. I think it has to do with not being in control of my own life, or specifically, not having a job and supporting myself, paying for my own place.

At this point it almost seems impossible. like a faraway dream. I remember during college, it seemed possible. All I had to do was get a job as I was finishing up my last year and I would have been able to keep my apartment. But instead I just went home and resumed to pretty much do nothing.

I think recently I came to terms with having to leave my family. So I guess I did start on tackling that problem, little by little. It's just... me getting a job. It sounds so foreign, like circle in square hole.
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how do I get someone to leach onto as a NEET?

I need like a sponsor.. Someone to keep me in weed and beer so I can game all night long for charity or something.
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>>18667648
I care anon. I've been a NEET for about a year and a handful of months now. I graduated Spring 2016 with a degree and I'm trying to figure out wtf is wrong with me.

Wait hold up this >>18670622 is exactly like my situation. I don't know what to say right now but I'll be following this thread.
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>>18672044
well, why cant you get a job?
are you underqualified? not likely since you went to college, that makes you overqualified for most jobs
maybe the reason you cant get a job is that you dont know anyone who can help you?
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>>18672069
you either need to be very manipulative or handsome
personally, i have come to terms with my narcissism, other people would feel shame for living life like i do
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>>18667648
in the near future when basic income is implemented everyone will be a neet anyways
institiunalised poverty, neets today will be the heroes of tomorrow
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>>18671907
tiredness, night sweats, loss of weight... then I discovered that I had fever every fucking day, and I didn't know, I just felt bad

>>18672069
friends?

>>18672931
I wish that happens... but it won't happen. rich people will want to make us all their slaves, like it has always happened
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>>18673062
>I wish that happens... but it won't happen. rich people will want to make us all their slaves, like it has always happened
thats basic income
it will be like feudalism again except you get food and digital goods for free
ou also get 2 for one on small pizas on mondays if you willingly sterilize yourself
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>>18673091
m8, an slave is someone that works as long as they want him/her to work, someone useful for them... a NEET is not someone useful, for anyone, not even for him/herself
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>>18673270
nobody is useful to them when they can get replaced for cheap
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>>18673273
exactly, so NEETs wouldn't be their slave, but their leeches
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>>18673273
>automation

Did you know tech billionaires are building bunkers for the all the shit they are going cause automating jobs that still give decent pay?
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>>18673332
i never used the word slave
it would be more like rats you leave traps with tasty cheese for
sometimes the rat gets the cheese, sometimes the trap snaps the rats neck
>>18673335
you cant stop it
its funny how the solutionis to tax the robot as if the problem wasnt job loss but the goverment missing on tax money, i guess they are solving their problem
doesnt matter anyways, they will just hire indian robots to do the job without tax
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