how do you reach an orgasm when masturbating without porn or

>>18607580
if you cut out both porn and fantasy you are basically turning into a vegetable state. that said, you should basically rely only into your body sensitivity, just touch the points that produce pleasure. without a starting amount of horniness from your brain i doubt it could happen tho

may i ask wtf are you planning anyway

>>18607631
where would a starting amount of horniness come from if you don't rely on fantasy?

i am trying to increase my ability to have pleasureable sex. and i want to train that during masturbation, too.
i want to be able to have orgasms that don't rely on me resorting to fantasy. but i also don't want to train myself to only focus on sensation and blend out everything else. that's why i asked if there's a way to "make love" to yourself. as in, charge the masturbating with some sense. i don't know how to better explain it. if i had sex, i'd say i'd try to increase intimacy and the connection with my partner, but how do you translate that to masturbation? how do you "increase intimacy and connection" with yourself if you're masturbating? i'm also still aware that i sound insane. but maybe someone can help me grasp what i'm looking for a bit better.

>>18607580
pleasurable sensations are all related to chemicals in your endocrine system. When you look at porn it tells the body to release hormones to allow you to climax, hence why your dick gets bigger and more sensititve. It does this because it assumes you are about to procreate, despite you knowing its not a real female you are almost tricking your brain into letting yourself come. To relate this to your query the higher your arousal the more amounts of these hormones are released. So contrary to your statement, watching a shitton of porn and edging for hours on end until you really 'feel' the need to ejaculate would be what you are describing, because by then you are only focused on coming and nothing else. The thought of climax alone would do the job.