Phobia of women

>One time a girl begged me to kiss her and I refused because I don't know how to
wtf, im new here but even i sense shit here. no girl would beg, she would do just do it...

go get laid with escort or smt might gain confidence

>>18583926
Maybe beg is the wrong word. I was a teenager at the time.

Of all the girls who have shown interest in me publicly (which isn't many, but there are some), not a single one has initiated physically with me. They just throw "signs" at me and expect me to do things, but I'm too terrified of it to initiate.

>>18583889
Do you get nervous when you talk to girls online?
What about on the phone?

>>18583947
>Do you get nervous when you talk to girls online?
Generally yes, though it depends on the situation. For instance, if I'm talking to a girl I know over Facebook I effectively become incapacitated. I'm actually MORE shy over messages because I overthink everything I type and therefore never want to actually send a message.

If I'm talking to a girl on, say, 4chan, or an online game, it's a lot less, but there's still a feeling of "this isn't quite right" that I don't get when I'm speaking to someone I believe is male. I feel constant pressure when speaking to girls, as if they are judging my every word and action.

>What about on the phone?
Yes, yes, definitely. 100%

one day you will overcome this fear... why the fuck would you be afraid of pussy? had traumatic first experience? abusive childhood? girl in preschool made fun of you?
> I do acting/debating/public speaking, I enjoy socialising and going out.
wtf????? why doesnt work with pussy?
have you considered option that u might like trans? they manly but got pussy....

>>18583958
>had traumatic first experience? abusive childhood? girl in preschool made fun of you?
I have had no experiences with women whatsoever. Nothing more than a platonic relationship. So it's nothing to do with that.

I was bullied intensely between the ages of about 8/9 to 16, and that socially crippled me. I got over most of it by developing a solid social circle and gradually forcing myself into bolder social situations. But I've never got over the female side of things.

>wtf????? why doesnt work with pussy?
You tell me, mate. It feels like an unconquerable frontier to me.

>>18583957
My advice is to just talk to girls more often, but do it little by little until you can properly talk to them irl.

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You're scared of this? Now that, that is fascinating.

>>18583968
u know reason yourself, just dont tell us

u ugly?

was it girls who bullied you? or you were bulied in front of them/ for their pleasure?

>>18583989
I know why I was bullied. It was because I was a social retard who was very easy to pick on and who people found very funny. I also was very much an ugly duckling and paid no attention to my appearance during high school. I have put all my effort into changing that ever since.

>was it girls who bullied you?
Mostly other boys. Some of them were girls, though.

>or you were bulied in front of them/ for their pleasure?
Maybe? Who knows

Step 1. Find a situation where you could literally throw up on a girl and it wouldn't come back to hurt you in some way (like at a bar).
Step 2. Talk to women one on one and be as awkward as you want.
Step 3. Repeat the first 2 Steps until the dread either goes away or you enjoy it.
This isn't a joke or anything, it's the only real solution dude.

>>18584009
this, practice makes perfect

>>18583995
so u ugly or no? its 4 a.m. at my place... give details about apearance
if have sister or brother how would they rate you apearance 1/10? talking skils not included

>>18584009
And what do I do if I act like such a social imbecile/autist that I completely embarrass myself in front of said girl?

I worry that I might have some kind of mental breakdown from the shame of it all. It literally does sound like one of the most terrifying things in the world to me.

>>18584012
>so u ugly or no?
How the fuck am I supposed to know? I'd say no, but it depends on your definition of ugly. Girls have been attracted to me in the past. I have a good sense of style/fashion and girls have told me that. I don't think anyone would call me hot, but I'd be surprised if anyone called me ugly.

>if have sister or brother how would they rate you apearance 1/10?
I don't have siblings.

Sounds like regular anxiety to me and the best way to get over that is to slowly dip your toes in it, warm your way into more intimate relationships with women, even if it's just a friendship, as long as you feel you trust and feel comfortable with a woman. Have you never had a frendship/ platonic relationship with a woman at all?

You can of course fuck women without the whole intimacy factor but then you could just get a hooker or one night stands but I don't think that's the problem.

>>18584021
>Have you never had a frendship/ platonic relationship with a woman at all?
Sort of. I've never been friends with a woman in the same way I'm friends with other men. As in, with my male friends I will see them very frequently and speak to them almost every day, unless we're physically unable to. With my female "friends" I will see them rarely and speak to them rarely, so I don't know if they can be called friends or just friendly acquaintances.

>You can of course fuck women without the whole intimacy factor but then you could just get a hooker or one night stands
No, both of these things would be impossible for me. I could never initiate with a girl to convince her to have a one night stand. And even with a hooker, the anxiety and the pressure and the fear would be too great for me to actually have sex with her. I can't even bring myself to kiss a girl. How on Earth would I begin to fathom putting my penis in a girl?

Get drunk and let a girl seduce you.

Am also 21 and in a similar situation until last new years I got drunk and a girl took advantage of that. We just cuddled tho, I'm still kissless. I have been on a date on okcupid since but that girl was a mess. Girls don't really make me nervous anymore though and I came close to kissing a girl I met on the bus last week so I would say drunk cuddles allegedly had a positive effect on me. It might take you months to work up to it but the more exposure you get the more your brain gets rewired. You'll be chad soon enough anon.

Oh and also quit masturbating. That also had a significant impact on rewiring my brain to be able to interact with women.

>>18584018
sorry, probably u normal looking guy, anyway:

do you feel the same with female your age only? when older like 30 how about them? still afraid? what about younger ones?
when female 35+ also afraid?

what about their apearance? afraid of sexy girl or average or even ugly?

>>18584027
Memes

>>18584028
>Get drunk and let a girl seduce you.
This doesn't happen. Though it is probably exactly what I need to happen.

>the more exposure you get the more your brain gets rewired
I've had years of exposure to girls with nothing really changing. I'm as inexperienced now as a 21 year old university student as I was when I was 16. Nothing changes.

>>18584029
>do you feel the same with female your age only? when older like 30 how about them? still afraid? what about younger ones?
when female 35+ also afraid?
I think there is an upper limit. Somewhere in the 30s upwards I stop viewing them as "girls" and start viewing them as "older women". I'm generally comfortable with older women (as in much older), because growing up my family was full of women 45 and upwards.

>what about their apearance? afraid of sexy girl or average or even ugly?
Generally, yes. Obviously girls I'm attracted to are the worst for me. But even a less attractive girl is still a girl, and I still get that feeling of "she is judging me and probably hates me"

>>18584014
That's why you find a place where it won't come back to you to act like an idiot. Don't actually try start anything, just get more comfortable around women. If you strike up a conversation at a bar, stutter over the word hello, piss your pants and run away, no one will ever know or care. Plus you can be drunk so it'll be easier to start. It just takes time to get comfortable with things.

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>>18583889
I have this same problem.
Except i just accepted it as a flaw and am moving on now.
I will die a filthy wizard.
I am the virgin.

wooow so u basically afraid of every girl dat is fuckable :O

>>18583060 not sure if dis works
>I get raging hard-ons from the slightest touch of a woman, like if a girl puts her hand on my arm for a few seconds
dis part <3 i think we are meant for each other

>>18584027
>Sort of. I've never been friends with a woman in the same way I'm friends with other men.

Then start there.

I was the exact same.
I was afraid of getting embarrassed because I was inexperienced at 21.

I just used tinder as the girls were basically unable to be in my proper life.
>>18584059

Also this. I was afraid of chatting to girls til I met one who I'd probably count as one of my best friends now. Never slept with her or kissed her, just great friends. After you can talk about shit like this with a female friend you realise its not really that different or difficult.

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5a.m. time to sleep
i hope u get pussy one day
keep trying and u will suceed one day

>>18584040
Nigger, I ain't talking about when you give piggyback ride to sister, or order a coffee from girl and you touch hands. You have 21 years of garbage non-sexual non-brain-rewiring social interactions with girls.

There is a difference between a sexual interaction and a non-sexual one. Your brain knows this and no rewiring will take place unless you have a sexy interaction with a woman, even something like cuddling. You already told us you have zero sexual interaction with women, hence zero rewiring. Just get alcohol and let the bitches who always wanted to fuck you but knew you were too pussy cave to their own desires when they see you drunk and force you to drunk cuddle. When a girl is touching you and she feels good and you feel good at the same time, it is going to rewire your brain.

I totally get the feeling, it feels like there are lines that are physically impossible for you to cross. But you're wrong, that feeling is false. You just need to be nudged a little over that line and pretty soon you'll be conquering yourself.

I thought I was asexual before last new years okay. This shit works.

>>18584078
And also stop fapping, it will increase the amount of testosterone in your body and increase your impulsivity and desire to interact with women. It's very difficult at first but you can do it and it is exactly the kind of boost you need to act the way you want to around women.

You may also have to give up the idea (if you have it) that your first kiss/ first girlfriend/ first whatever should be special. And if you don't accept the reality now you will be forced to accept it later. Your first whatever can only possibly be special once you accept that it won't be.

>>18583889
attachment disorder maybe?