>>18570136 Manipulation is wrong no matter what

>>18570146
everything is manipulation in one form or another, though. She's attracted to women already, so is it "manipulation" to encourage that side of her? I'm not sure where to draw the line because I'm blinded by my dick.

How are you grooming her to do it?

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What's your endgame?

>>18570347
finding a fertile second wife to live in harmony with the gf and I, eventually sharing resources, child-rearing responsibilities and a bed?

>>18570297
encouraging her to overcome jealousy, and explore her sexuality. Also incorporating the concept into sex (dirty talk and porn)

>>18570393
Sounds nice

>>18570393
Eh, I don't think there's anything wrong with this. She's an adult and you're not asking for something that would harm her. I wish my boyfriend was more deliberate with getting what he wants from me.
The problem would come along for if she put her foot down as a 'no' and you were unable to accept that.

>>18570412
for you (or for anyone else reading), as someone who I assume would say "no" to the above goal, is there anything in particular you'd have a hard time with in that goal?

>>18570412
>>18570393
I thought OP meant convincing his gf to let him eat her pussy

It seems what he really wants is for his gf to eat another girl's pussy

>>18570422
Well, I can't really speak for that because I wouldn't be a hard 'no'. I've done a bit of research into polyamory. I'd be willing to try it. Though I am more turned on by the idea of my boyfriend fucking someone else than I am at the idea of being with someone else myself.

I would hesitate for a couple reasons
>His fap fantasy might ignite uncomfortable emotions when done IRL
I did have a semi-threesome with a previous boyfriend and a friend of mine. He walked away feeling jealous and not good enough.

>I worry about the +1 girl catching feels

>I worry about catching feels for the +1 girl
I've looked into polyamory, but if i went through with it, I'd want it to be true polyamory with all the emotional parts involved, not just sex. I'm not hugely sexual in the first place, at least not until I met my current boyfriend. I'm much more invested in the emotional side of things.
Even sex itself, I get off mostly on the emotional dynamics of being close. I'm also hugely submissive. I would have a hard time not being submissive for whatever girl I was eating out, and I feel a little weird elevating someone other than my boyfriend to that role. I likely would need to readjust to my behavior around her afterwards, if we weren't doing a true polyamorous relationship, and I'd need to put some effort into that.

>>18570508
interesting, thanks for your perspective

second question - how would you approach trying it?

>>18570520
I like the idea of working it into dirty talk/porn, however it is that you're phrasing that. I get off on getting my boyfriend off, and just knowing that he's into it will make me more likely to try.
What is the full scenario that you're expecting?

That a girl sits down in a chair, your girlfriend gets on her knees, undresses the girl, goes to town, girl orgasms, girl gets dressed, stands up and leaves?
Will you be watching? Will you be jerking off or will you wait until later? If the former, will you orgasm? Where will you cum? Will the girl do anything sexual with your girlfriend? What if the girl needs foreplay, like groping and kissing? Do you expect to be doing anything sexual with the girl or your gf during this? Does the girl stay the night? If no, how are you going to gracefully get her to leave?

>>18570393
So, you want your GF to go dyke?

>>18570162
Oh, I see, you think if you can get her interested in other girls, you'll be allowed to fuck them as well.

Yeah, there is no way this could possibly blow up.

>>18570136
>inappropriate
>manipulate

Answered yourself, bud. But you don't care about that. You just want someone here to validate your choices. Sort yourself the fuck out.

>>18570640
well, I characterized it as manipulation, but is it?

>>18570588
that's exactly the worry. Yet, people do it successfully out there.

>>18570393
>overcome jealousy
>explore her sexuality

She'll be getting her vag pounded by random dudes in no time, you'll probably be sucking them off too.

>>18570146
ok... what a load of shit..
if most people werent being manipulated civilization would crumble in a day