Picture this case. GF is in Europe. She will stay for a month

>>18557418
>Europe
She got blacked, it's over OP.

>>18557418
I try to look at the best in people but no one here can tell you exactly what is going on with her whether it's legitimate stress or infidelity.

Ultimately the answer lies with you and how much you care about the relationship. I'd be suspect that's for sure.

Let her have fun, you'll have her later anyways.

If she contacts you, let her. How long were you together?

>>18557438
We broke up once for a year. 3 years now. 5 adding it up.

And I will ignore all cuck responses.

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>>18557444
>tfw you think I am joking

Just give it a couple months, you'll make a regret post on /adv/ when that happens. See you soon OP~

>>18557444
why did you break up the first time?

well from my experience i had a gf that did something similar to me
always said she was too busy to talk to me. always avoided me, rarely talked
but sometimes would say she loved me still
few days after all that she dumped me for another guy.

she might just be sad because she found someone else, so shes focusing on him but is keeping you as a reserve in case stuff doesnt work out with the new guy... pretty cynical but women do that kind of stuff sometimes.

also who the fuck is that in your pic she's super cute

Having backpacked europe solo for 3 months, i can assure you that the hostel scene is a total fuckfest. Men like me sorta have to work a bit, but for women, its an all you can eat exotic dick buffet.

Your GF is having a blast in europe and "exploring herself" AKA getting railed out. Im not trolling. Thats just how the hostel scene is. I personally fucked the shit out of a girl (and several others who claimed to be or actually were single) who had a boyfriend back home - she said her boyfriend had traveled europe before and gave her permission to "do whatever" because he knew thats how traveling is - not that he condoned it or wanted to happen - but he told this chick he knew the reality of the situation and that he wouldnt fight it because its not a winnable battle. She told me all this and refused to have sex with me. For two hours at least - we ended up fucking behind some bushes in a park in the middle of the night and then the next day i finger blasted her on a couch at our hostel before humping her brains on in the hostel bathroom for two hours. She had zero intention of cheating, she was a good girl and to my knowledge based on social media shes still with her boyfriend to this day a year later. She really wasnt a slut or anything. You just make connections with people ultra fast due to the nature of traveling.

Point im trying to make is that if someone goes to Europe, they are probably going to hook up with someone - and if they are female the odds are multiplied by 10000%. Its just the way it is. It doesnt mean she doesnt love you, it just means shes exploring her sexuality and her personal freedom.

Would i be ok with it? FUCK NO. If my girl traveled europe without me, id break up with her, because i know how shit goes down. Im a jealous little shit who cant tolerate any sharing though. It comes down to whether or not you are ok with your gf fucking random dudes when shes over there. Be honest, you would fuck random bitches if you were in her shoes.

>>18557459
I was too demanding and slightly clingy according to her, but I do think I have changed in that regard and she has recognized that too. It was also because a bunch of tiny things that added up but that have been corrected.

>>18557464
I am aware of that, but from what I know her, she is not like that. Although she has been increasingly invested in social justice stuff. She is in Europe in an international class for minorities rights (she is a lawyer). Also she is 5 years old younger than me (I am 27). Pic is uruglyfatface on instagram.

>>18557476
Being honest, I would not. I would go full monk mode and focus on classes and research (I am a neuroscientist). If I intended to fuck other girls, I would explicitly say so and either make a deal or break up.

>>18557487
yeah, i thought the same of my ex because she was SUPER loyal or whatever before we broke up, but obviously not. takes just a couple of fuckups on your half and her not being 100% satisfied + some other dude in the picture for her to completely give up on you. also that girl is really really cute, holy shit

>>18557487
>>I am aware of that, but from what I know her, she is not like that. Although she has been increasingly invested in social justice stuff. She is in Europe in an international class for minorities rights (she is a lawyer).

This has to be bait. It's too obvious.

>>18557512
Don't!! He'll call you a cuck and ignore you!

>>18557512
Not bait. She is not some crazy SJW. She just advocates for the rights of minorities where it actually matters, even if I do not agree with some of the things she thinks.

>>18557505
That sucks. At least I know it wont be hard for me to get another gf, but 5 years of emotional bonding is no small thing.

>>18557476
It does mean she is not as committed in the relationship as OP and that she does not respect him enough to tell her the truth. Maybe OP did some shitty stuff to lose her respect, maybe not, but as far as I can tell, he seems to be a pretty chill guy, so I would bet for her being a low key bitch.

>>18557517
Well don't throw in the towel yet, Anon. If she contacts you go ahead and talk it out. I think you did the right thing by putting the ball in her court, though you may have rushed breaking up idk.

>>18557551
I do not think so. Out of respect for myself and the relationship, I cannot be with someone that has that degree of doubt under these circumstances (or in general). Doubt is a natural response when confronted with an uncertain future, but not being able to solve (or at least try) those doubts with your partner and not trusting the relationship enough so it helps you face the inherent uncertainty of the future is a terrible sign and me staying would be walking all over myself.

>>18557560
In thinking about it a little more, I agree with you here. I would say that at this point it's probably best to just move on from her, though idk how long it's been since you two have had contact.

>>18557487
>I am aware of that, but from what I know her, she is not like that
i don't mean to make you more paranoid, but as someone who's been cheated on and who's cheated, there's really no such thing as "like that" or not. it all comes down to timing; what's going through her mind and when. there's entire worlds inside people you'll never know, even if you spend 25 years with them. you can't really put anything past anyone

>>18557566
She left 12 days ago. I broke up with her 6 days ago. Last time we talked was 2 days ago.

>>18557572
Yes, I agree. I guess what I meant is that she has shown to be loyal in the past and is really thoughtful. Not an impulsive or fickle person at all. She is an hyperachiever.

>>18557418
she has ridden so much euro and kebab dick by now that she has forgotten you entirely

>>18557576
yeah, but being in a new place can bring out different things in people. i would talk to her about it when she gets back to you. tell her that you just want her to be honest with you, and that it's something you're worried about

>>18557589
This is really all you can do for now.

>>18557597
That and fuck some girls for him to have an easier time forgetting or diminishing the pain. Or even better, start searching for a new potential long term partner.

>>18557418
She might be actually tired because of time zones.
You may have broken up with your gf over a small logistical error.
I would assume she's all good.

>>18557418
she got overwhelmed by the new experiences and you werent exciting anymore
moreover you became demanding then hurt her

no this is not salvageable

what you should have done is keep being moderately interesting and not becoming butthurt if she ignores you a bit, you aint a child right?

>>18557616
Nah. There is always time. Also how come she has time to go out and know the city at night but no time to talk, not even 5-10 minutes?

>>18557621
I demand from my partner to the same degree my partner demands from me. If shit is not going to be symmetric, then count me out. Also if she gave her word, I expect her to keep it.

>>18557621
you are really a shallow person if you think relationships are just about what is currently exciting

>>18557621
The dude is a neuroscientist and so far he seems to be a guy with depth. If you think he is boring, then you have some backwards notion of interesting.

>>18557422
>EUROPE
>BLACKED

>Barely any niggers here compared to the US

>>18557422
You mean bombed.

>>18557623
never trust womenfolk anon
they aint your equal, only in very very very few lucky cases

>>18557626
women are shallow correct

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>>18557476
can confirm. Im a mixed race chad and get foreign girls(and sometimes cute bois) without even trying

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>>18557444

>>18557642
>MUSLIMED
>MIDDLE EASTERNED
>SANDED
>BOMBED

>>18557476
>you would fuck random bitches if you were in her shoes.
you people are all whores. die.

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>>18557793
Malesluts are becoming a real thing, fuck, where is this world going to.

>Can we fix?

Brother, someone is already 'fixing' her right good. You don't need to worry.

If you weren't confident in the relationship, leaving was an honest and forthright choice.

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>>18557476
>tfw GF wants to go backpacking Europe next year

>>18558666
Better go with her then.

>>18558666

Well, it's actually a good test to see how faithful she can be and if it's worth maintaining a relationship with her in the long run.
That is, if you think you can trust her enough that she'll at least be honest about what happens there...

>>18558666

Your gf is going to sleep with other guys. That is 100% fact. Backpacking europe for most people is a once in a lifetime thing. Why WOULDNT someone make the most of it and sleep with people they have fun times with and find attractive?

Again while backpacking you meet tons of people from every walk of life imaginable. You stay in a city for a couple of days, do some sight seeing, do some pubcrawls, maybe do a minitrip to the surrounding areas. You have amazing life experiences that you will look back upon fondly for the rest of your life. And all the while, there are tons of people in the same boat as you are. Total strangers become your best buds for a couple of days, because everyone is there to have fun and be social. A few days later you leave to another city, and those people are basically gone from your life forever. And the cycle repeats as you make new friends.

Point is people form amazingly close friendships and bonds with total strangers in a way that would NEVER occur back home. Everyone knows their time is limited so the awkward stages of meeting people get skipped entirely and people just act like theyve known you their whole life. Its a wonderful experience.

But yeah. Your gf is gonna hook up with at least one dude. That chick i banged who had a bf even had her friend with her, who totally allowed it and approved of the situation because i became her buddy as well. Again that chick is still with her bf to this day based on what i see on instagram, idk if she told him that she fucked me, but the dude knew it would happen - he traveled and knew people fuck when traveling and to expect her not to is naive so he gave her permission - she absolutely refused to cheat until she met me and we just vibed insanely well. Id wifey the fuck out of this girl if we came from the same place. But she was just one of several girls i slept with and one of dozens of amazing fun awesome people i met.

>tldr she gonna cheat

>>18557418
You did the right thing, just start looking for a new woman while you are at it

>>18558718
Sounds like a terrible hedonistic outlook that shits on compromise and honesty, but ok.

OP did the right thing by breaking up with her.

>>18558763
That's just women for you
Long trips like these is the same thing every time

>>18558763

Its not a terrible outlook. Its fucking fact. Its just the way it is. You can talk all high and mighty and enlightened from behind your keyboard but until you actually go on a longterm backpacking trip you have no idea what its like.

Again, its just plain different from "real life". There are people i met only for a couple of days that id consider just as close to me as my close friend back home. It doesnt mean i value my friends any leas. Its just that you make bonds hard and fast when you travel. That girl i keep mentioning - we were basically a couple when we were together for those few days. Doing dumb shit, pet names, dancing and having a total blast and laughing til we wanted to puke. It was great. But it doesnt last, its just a temporary thing and everyone knows it so you go hard as you can with bonding. You live for the moment.

Idk. I see where youre coming from, having been in your shoes. But you are wrong.

>>18557418
ok come the fuck on.

How can ANYONE deny this now? Look at her. Fucking LOOK AT HER.

She's my art come to life.

PS. Please marry me girl I love you.

>>18558929
How am I wrong? I am not denying it happens. I am saying it is a terrible outlook. It is a consequence of bullshit shortsightedness and lack of self control. Living for the moment is dumb when you have a brain capable of knowing there is a future in which you are included (most likely). It is also dishonest and disrespectful to not set things straight from the get go. Want to be Europe dicked or fuck around, tell your partner. Let him/her decide if that is a relationship he/she wants to be in. If you do cannot make a deal, break up. Easy as that.

>>18558718
I'm a woman and I wouldn't fuck some random hairy foreign men. Try again. Not only is that disgusting but a waste of time.

If I'm going to fuck someone it's going to be that superstar entertainer I have a crush on. Don't see the point of wasting my health with a regular male, hot or not.

>>18558929
I have been on long term trips (not backpacking though), and I did not cheat. I was focused on my goddamn project and I had fun with vidya, porn and movies/anime. No excuses for sluts.

>>18558929
You have contracted brain rot from stepping into the Baudrillardian nightmare called America/Western Europe. There's no cure other than death, I'm afraid.

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>>18559026
>talk to your partner
Well there you go. Thats exactly how it should be, because someone backpacking europe for a long period of time without their SO is going to cheat, thats the reality of the situation. How that couple wants to proceed is up to them - i 100% agree that its a scumbag move to cheat while over there and pretend nothing happened. Either talk and accept your partner will cheat, or break up because you cant accept it. It will happen regardless so it needs to be addressed in a healthy relationship. Pretending it wont is simply naive.

>>18559047
Long term relocations arent the same as backpacking. If you are staying in one location for a long time, thats different. Backpacking is unique in the sense that you are constantly on the move, constantly staying in new hostels, and constantly meeting new people who are doing the same as ehat you are doing.

If youre traveling for work/school, youre typically in a set location with a set group of people surrounding you. Its still fairly solid. Backpacking out of hostels is completely different. Not to put down your experience, its great you traveled and great you didnt cheat. All im saying is its apple and oranges.

>>18559165
No u

>pic semi related, wildest hostel i stayed at.

>>18559233
>It will happen regardless so it needs to be addressed in a healthy relationship. Pretending it wont is simply naive.
You should probably accept the fact that not every female backpacker is a hormone-crazed teenager looking for a quick shag. It's okay if you don't, though, as getting your sub-100 IQ frame of reference crushed is not a pleasant experience.

>>18559299
Agreed. I went on a geology field camp to Italy for a month. Kept it in my pants for my bf. It sounds like you guys just have bad taste in women.

>>18559299
>>18559339
>>18559233

He has a point though. I do not agree it is a 100% guarantee thing, but chances are much higher in a backpacking situation when compared to a specific stable relocation situation, even if for not so long.

It makes sense we are wired to form new bonds not only based on time, but changing environments as the social landscape shifts, even if a rational analysis telss us the decisions that could follow from that are not wise.

>>18557418
I think you're insecure, and your girlfriend isn't that into you. It's probably not a good combination, particularly if she's going to end up traveling more.

>>18559378
he has reasons to be like that given how his gf is avoiding him, broke her promise and is far away

>>18557418
Forget about her
>in Europe
Yup,he's gone op
Cut your loses and move on

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>>18559299

You should accept that we are discussing this topic with regard to the law of averages, you know, the way any broad topic is discussed. Of course not *all* women will cheat. No fucking shit. We are discussing averages though, and the average (aka the majority) of people will cheat on their SO when backpacking for extended periods of time without them. Call me any name in the book, in the end youre the one who is being stupid. You clearly have not backpacked anywhere so you dont know how it works.

>>18559339

>geology field camp

There you go. Again this is not the same as backpacking.

I suppose the whole point is moot though because we are deviating from OPs concern, as his now ex is not backpacking. She just wants to hookup with other guys. Is this to be expected? Tough to say. They clearly didnt discuss this before she left. And she clearly doesnt care if she isnt trying to fix things on her end - shes too busy getting drunk and laid trying to forget about OP so she can worry about it when she gets home. Id say she isnt relationship material.

The point i was trying to make is that people have much lower inhibitions when they travel. And practically none when they are backpacking for extended periods. Personally i wouldnt be ok with my girl backpacking without me, but i would be ok with her going abroad for a month for a project because i trust her. Despite my trust, i know she would cheat on me if she backpacked - because that is simply the way it is. It would be she stays home, has me come along, or we breakup, simple as that.

>>18559434
oh hey, I live there.
>tfw Swiss

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>>18559775

Interlaken? Or just somewhere in switzerland? Regardless youre lucky as fuck dude, was in 14 countries total when i went backpacking over there and switzerland was my favorite of them all.

Dat scenery.

>>18557891
They've been a thing since the beginning of time. It's nothing new. I do agree they are sleazy assholes who don't deserve respect, but it's always been a problem.

And yes OP your ex girlfriend was cheating on you.

>>18558929
>>18557476
>>18558718


>I'm a whore surrounded by other whores so everyone must be a whore

Not to sound high and mighty here, but you know, not everybody thinks with their genitals. Go be a troll on some other board mate.

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>>18559042
You all say you won't, then you do it. Own up to your problems already and have your (You).

When I first moved abroad, I realised I didn't really feel like telling people about what I was doing, not because of any weird reason but because it seemed extremely tiring to have to explain all.

I suppose not everyone feels this way, but I think it could be that.

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>>18560035

Im not trolling. Im legit telling fucking facts. Why are you getting so butthurt over this? Have you backpacked before? This is literally the way the hostel scene is. Im not justifying it or saying its right or wrong - im telling it like it is. My fucking bad that humans are animals and that we arent all noble creatures who are exempt from out base desires.

Anyone that goes backpacking without their significant other can basically be counted on to cheat on them. Which is why i would never stay with my gf if she wanted to travel without me. Its either we travel as a couple or we go our seperate ways. Some people are more understanding and give their partner a free pass, not because they want them to cheat or dont trust them but simply because they are realistic with how reality is at hostels - and those people are much more comfortable with their SO than i am. Im a jealous man, so that sort of arrangement would never fly. Likewise, i would never travel without my gf, because even though i would never cheat, shit just fucking happens.

Its easy to say youd never do this or youll act a certain way in situations you never experienced before. All im saying is that none of that talk means a damn thing until you live that life yourself and find yourself doing things you never imagined yourself doing. Its a whole different wild world out there, and no words or explanations i give will ever fully make you understand how beautifully strange and wonderful it is to have the freedom you do when backpacking. You gotta see for yourself.

>>18560081

I'm butthurt over the fact that you so obviously bend the logic here and keep generalising. In whole big Europe, of all backpacking people you and whoever you've fucked with during those months is confirmed to fuck freely during trips. But only you. Your "legit fucking facts" are that you've met a bunch of people that fuck around when in Europe. But that's it. Yet you're selling it like it's the law of the universe. This fallacy is honestly painful to read with each of your post. Basically you play an expert after having a bit of experience before. I have found myself in weird situations, I've been doing things I'd never thought of, but guess what, never during a relationship. It might not have been backpacking but get this: traveling or not, nobody ever forces you to fuck somebody. It's both of you taking small steps towards this. A lot of steps. Even when you're in a situation where both of you are getting very close in a short period of time it's your decision to turn it or let it turn intimate. There is usually a ton of points at which you can say no, risk maybe a small bit of awkwardness, but kill the mood and stay loyal to your partner. Just because you're one of people that just go with the flow and end up fucking does not mean everyone is that open, or hell, that good at talking to people to get laid.

So stop using the word facts to describe things you extrapolated from facts.