What are good first messages, lot of women bitch about receiving simple messages like "hey how are you doing" they claim they want someone who can start a conversation, so I ask about them or comment on their interests, like. "How did you learn how to do X [some art] that's really cool I'm impressed" but it seems kind of dead end and when I ask questions about them it seems a bit demanding , no one wants to answer so they end up responding to one question, and that's is. I hear starting with a joke but doesn't sound like that would so anything. they are amused then what, just say "nice joke" or "lol" how's that a conversation starter, how do you start a conversation?
>>18542219
uhhh what else would you think there is to say besides what you listed?
if they aren't responding and you've tried short hellos, asking questions, making jokes, etc then something else must be the problem
I've gotten responses from simply shit like "your place or mine" so maybe you need better pictures? or use a better app?
girls get bombarded with trillions of messages from ugly pieces of shit on dating sites. if they even bothered to reply with "lol", youve got their attention. maintain it. tell them to tell you a joke. ask another question. whatever
>>18542222
Might be the pictures, I only have 1 picture is really close up of my head neck up [haven't taken pictures of my self in ages, and spontaneously felt like taking 1 (for site) one weekend], what other pictures do I need? Any other dating site suggestions?
>>18542223
Thats comforting because I do get a lot of little replies, just don't know where to take, it I just wish I could see the legendary "guy who can carry a conversation".