deadbeats

>>18515496
Cut them out bro. You usually become the people you associate yourself with. They will only bring you down. When people get like this they become poisonous. You can't change them. You will find new friends.

>>18515505
they're the only friends i have.. i dont know how to make friends. i'm not really a normie, i dont get along with randos at bars and i have big ambitions, its weird to think of just uprooting myself and starting new like that.

>>18515543
Well you can still be friends with them. Just make sure there bullshit doesn't rub off on you. Maybe bring up some better ways to have fun be more active in the group?

>>18515550
i've tried a lot of times. one of the friends also tries, we've tried setting up hikes or going to the fair or any other fun things but they are just entirely not interested. the only recent breakthrough is a camping trip in a few months, but that's only for one of their birthdays. if we set it up just because, that idea would never have seen the light of day.

>>18515558
You gotta keep pushing. Come from every angle. There's bound to be more crack in this. Maybe make them sound more enticing? Bribery?

>>18515496
I'm kind of going though something similar OP, but I'm 30. I don't know what to say, different people have different priorities. These people may end up being your friends, but you will not stay close friends. Personally I know my friends are not bad people, and I don't think they are even unhappy the way they are. We are just growing apart. And this is natural and normal. A bigger problem might be trying to fit in with your friends so much that you loose sight of your own goals.At least that isn't happening.

>>18515564
I think the problem is they're so enticed with this endless thought of moving that they refuse to get things done now. but it's been a year since their going away party and i don't know what else to do. definitely not bribing them, i already have done that by offering to drive everywhere at my expense. I do think there is a solution, but i don't know what it is.

>>18515658
are your best friends now the same when you were 20? and
> A bigger problem might be trying to fit in with your friends so much that you loose sight of your own goals.At least that isn't happening.

that's one of the biggest problems though. it is. I still have my goals, but with no friends who want to do anything i'm left with either doing my work, going to my job, and playing video games by myself if i'm not hanging out with them. I want to start going to a gym or going on solo hikes, but that just seems lonely and sad to me.

>>18515496
I'm going through the same thing, luckily my close group is actually on the road to trying to move out, start their career, etc. Nowadays I only give so many chances before I drop you for being a sack dragger. One of my close friends I'm about to drop cause he's going on 25 with a dead end job, no car, and doing drugs and hanging out with his drug addicted 30 something gf all day. All he wants to do is live life leisurely and that's pathetic in my eyes.