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Love vs Hatred for Humanity

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How do I balance my love for humanity with my hatred of it? On one hand, I want the best for everybody, and I want to live a virtuous life. On the other hand, I think that most people are wrong in what they believe and are too stubborn to be helped.

Can you see how these two opinions don't contradict each other, but pull at each other? I spend too much time in ambivalence, trying to figure out whether getting emotionally involved with humanity is worth it.
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Think about what makes a person good and worthy of your respect, help and best wishes.
Don't feel bad for hating on anyone that doesn't meet that criteria and be consistent.
There you go, you balanced it out.
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>>18490876
Most humans are trying to be good people, the key to understand humanity is that most of the ordinary people have their own weaknesses and often don't know how to even be virtuous, even if they want to.

Simple example - somebody who vandalized your car last night was not being "evil" or wanted to "get to you" but he relapsed back into a bad drug habit and your car just happened to be the first one he saw when he had the idea to break into a car and steal shit he could sell to fund his drug habit. He tries to be good and finally get free, but his addiction took the better of him and he is slave to his shitty little habit now.

Most of humanity is quite worth loving for, because of their strive to keep going in their routines for their loved ones, in their own little pursuit of happiness, while battling their own demons.

If you want something in human nature to hate about, hate the pettiness. How the one missing from the work today is the main subject of today's gossip. How some asshole just throws a glass bottle out of the moving car and the kid playing near is going to step on it and cry from a bleeding foot that now needs medical attention. Hate the asshole who catcalls random women on the street.

Love the human spirit, hate the lazy ignorance of men, OP.
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>>18490876
I know exactly what's going on:
You have a preconception about humanity yet people are jerks all the time.
Stick with reality: people are selfish jerks.
THERE IS NO TRIBE, THE TRIBE IS DEAD.
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>>18490929
all this stuff about striving and love isn't specific to humans. lots of animals do that.

you're right, what's disappointing is ignorance. I'm not sure what to take from your post.

on one hand you can white knight and fight ignorance, and on the other you can say "fuck it" and just let everyone pull each other down.

>>18490897
Not sure how to get started on this list, but I'll try
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>>18490940
right but people are not literally jerks all the time. some people are academic types and socialist types (even billionaires) who make life better for everyone else. we wouldn't be communicating on these computers over the internet (or maybe alive at all) if it weren't for them
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>>18490945
Except animals do not consciously process their existance. They just act on impulses, and maybe in case of higher mammals, there are emotions and some rudimentary thinking involved, but it's very basic.

With humans, there is the unusual thing that they sometimes help the stranger. That they sometimes pursue the way out even when everything is stacked against them. Almost like how when nazi germany was falling, german soldiers still fought for Berlin even when they knew that they are fighting a losing battle. Not trying to glorify nazis, but it's the best example of how there is something about human spirit that is admirable. Even in the most monsterous conditions, someone in North Korean prison camp will share a bread crumble with the other prisoner just out of kindness. Most animals can't comprehend it and only care about their individual survivial. That to me is human spirit.
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>>18490973
according to you, higher intelligence is the most defining thing about humanity, and that is why ignorance bothers you. higher thinking is the most valuable thing a human can do, ex: fighting a losing battle on principle, being philanthropic despite not having your own needs met...

am I understanding you? I agree with all that.

There's kind of a problem here, though. It seems like I'm asking other people what to value, when values are very personal.
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>>18491007
That is correct, but I meant learning about humanity by observation. Many people are compassionate or display their spirit through how they behave. It's about the behavior you can observe.
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>>18490876
Hate and discourage muslims/middle easterns. Appreciate and encourage northern people(Ireland, Norway, Britain, Scotland, Sweden)

And by the way if I tell you that I'd rather be dead than mediocrity then please for the love of birth stop pussying out and help me goddamnit, help me kill myself. Why are you such a coward, mom and dad ;_;? you fucking hypocrites. I could have been a happier dead man than I am now.
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>>18490876
Stop caring. Who cares if you care about humanity? Even your closest of close friends dosent care if you care. Care about yourself and keep afloat. You'll survive
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>>18491300
Interesting point. Value judgements are a bit overrated. Maybe I should just go with the flow and stop trying to classify everything as either good or bad.
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