My first gf and I have been on two dates with each other. We really like each other and we're planning for a third date. We always have lots of fun. I hug her whenever I want and I even sometimes put my arm around her shoulder. And sometimes I even lay my head on her shoulder. But when is a good time to start kissing? And maybe even the occasional butt grab? I asked her if I could hold her hand and she said when she's comfortable enough. So what I'm trying to say is, when should the kissing and touching start?
>two dates
>isn't even comfortable holding your hand
Uh, that's not a girlfriend, even if you're 14.
>>18483602
imo hand holding is more intimate than the kiss
Take your time with the butt grab
>>18483602
Im not even sure this is bait, sounds pretty autistic. You should've already gone for the kiss. So do it on your next date. Just wait for the right moment. And don't ask. I mean don't rape her but asking to hold her hand is like the most stereotypical beta move ever and girls generally don't really like that.
If she's going on dates with you I doubt she minds a playful grab, even if she says otherwise. When it comes to kissing just go for it when the time feels right.
>>18483602
are you 12?
>>18483602
>I asked her if I could hold her hand and she said when she's comfortable enough.
She's using you Anon, don't expect any form of affection from her, but she will expect you to keep spending money on dates, giving emotional support and the like.
I recommend you to cut off all contact and move on to greener pastures.
>gf
>going on dates
Spicy meme lad.
>>18483602
Are you still in middle school? wew
First date should be pretty tame in most cases otherwise it's a bad omen for the relationship. Like watching a movie together and maybe eating out (though girls love it more if you cook for them) and walking around.
Second date you should at least kiss, and oftentimes you'll have sex if the match is pretty good. Sex usually occurs by the third date with most girls.
Hand holding should've been a thing by the end of the first date
>>18484934
She said she just doesn't like holding hands in general. She said it's nothing personal