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I have small boobs. They're not flat but they're small.

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I have small boobs. They're not flat but they're small. Before I was going out with my boyfriend he was close friends with me and another girl who had huge tits (she isn't fat either, just curvy). I've been jealous and I've told him but he reassured me that I'm perfect. One day I overheard him talking to his friends in the other room about me (all good things) like how I'm smart, funny and pretty then he mentioned the other girl saying 'she had awesome tits though', I didn't say anything because I figured I might have misheard him. One day after that we got into a huge fight because I wanted him to help out with chores more and I did say some cruel things...he got super mad and told me he wished he was going out with the other girl because her boobs were better. Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
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>>18466462
>she isn't fat either, just curvy
so she's fat lol.

Also
> I did say some cruel things
>Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
No. You said a shitty thing you probably didn't mean just to hurt him in the heat of an argument, and he did it back, because he knows your insecurity.

At the end of the day though, your insecurities aren't his problem. There is absolutely nothing he can say or do that will make you feel better about your tits. Only you can do that.

Save up and get some balloons if it bothers you that badly. Chances are you'll just pick a new thing to be insecure about because deep down this is a much bigger psychological issue and not actually about your tits.
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>>18466462
>Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
Eh, kind of. On one hand, it was something he said out of anger and I'm sure you said stuff that's equally bad. And just because he likes bigger tits doesn't mean he doesn't like you. But on the other hand, that's a pretty shit thing to say in anger, and whatever you said can't have been better.

Seems to me like you're both in the wrong here, and equally so. I'm certain you don't think he's absolutely perfect and wish he were different in some ways too, and you weren't supposed to hear what he said to his friends.
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>>18466471
I never said anything about his looks though.

Plus I didn't care about my tits size until I met him.
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What did you say?
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>>18466483
I said that he didn't care about me or the work I put into the house and cooking etc. I also brouht up stuff he has done in the past and said him saying he loves me is a lie.
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>>18466462
> Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
Feel free to, but it won't really help.

Learn how to wear sexier outfits or something like that instead. Doesn't work for every BF, but it's good for some.
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>>18466462
Your boyfriend is in love with the big titty woman.
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thanks for making this thread. I didn't know women were self conscious of their breast sizes just like men are of their penis sizes. I have a theory that it's all because of porn.
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>>18466498
I do that, and I keep in shape and eat well. I'm almost feeling like eating more and gaining weight just to get a body shape like his big tittied friend.
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>>18466504
Probably, I don't really watch porn and penis doesn't really matter to me. Seeing a penis that isn't my boyfriends makes me feel uncomfortable. My boyfriend watches porn though, it could be why he likes bigger boobs.
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No it's fighting dirty. Ex's will do it hell even your friends and family can do it if they think they know what gets under your skin. Dump him before you open up to him again or you'll be giving him more ammo and he'll hang it over your head anytime you get upset. It's what the weak do when they want to get ahead, probably can do better if he's pin pointing insecurities.
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>>18466482
You admittedly said you said something cruel though. Doesn't have to be about his looks. You said something mean, he said something mean back. Yes you can be upset that he said something mean to you, because that's the reaction you had, you just can't really feel justified or like a true victim here because you did the same exact thing to him.

And again, you latched onto this because for whatever reason you feel insecure with him. Your insecurities are your problem, nothing he can do about it. Are you saying you'll believe him whole heartedly even if he said over and over and over "I don't care about your tits"?
No, you won't. You'll just keep thinking he's lying to make you feel better. There is absolutely nothing he can do to console you, you need to work out your issues for yourself.
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>>18466508
If you have small tits, all gaining weight is going to do is make you fat and small-titted.
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>>18466462
There's already a "get it off your chest thread" up right now.
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>>18466504
You should see vagina threads man.
I've been saving up for 4 years now for a labiaplasty because I'm convinced any dude will see my gross roast beef and vomit on me. I'll take the risk of becoming completely numb down there to look better. Nobody wants a roastie.
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>>18466518
But anon, OP has nothing on her chest to give
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>>18466462
We would need to know which cruel things were said in the argument in order to determine whether his words were genuinely truthful or were simply an angry reaction to some offensive shit you said
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>>18466517
yup. Fat chicks with tiny boobs are the absolute worst
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>>18466517
Right now I'm a B and once in the past I didn't eat right and most of my weight goes to my chest so I was DD but I didn't like it because I also looked chubbier, similar to my bfs friend but hers are way bigger than average, maybe an F.
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>>18466508
> I do that, and I keep in shape and eat well.
If you do it well, the only extra thing you could do is get beauty surgery to enlarge your breasts.

But of course I can't say if he would appreciate it a lot or not at all.
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>>18466529
I already said what I said

>I said that he didn't care about me or the work I put into the house and cooking etc. I also brouht up stuff he has done in the past and said him saying he loves me is a lie.
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>>18466536
Right, but if your natural body shape isn't curvy, then you're still going to look like your tits are small compared to the rest of you and you're going to look unattractively large faster. I'm hourglass shaped and I can get away with being at a high BMI than my rectangular friends because of my fat distribution.
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>>18466536
>I'm a B and then I got fat and it ALLLLLL went to my chest I was a total DD, but just a bit chubby.

Kek there's no way Only way a B goes to a DD is if you were absolutely obese.
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>>18466462
Being jealous about big boobs is the cute appeal of smaller women. I had a girlfriend who was small and she was always getting huffy about the same thing.

>Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
I guess the answer would be why do you feel insecure about yourself? Is it often that he talks about this other woman, does he not pay much attention to your chest? Talk with your bf and tell him about how you feel.

As someone who prefers big breasts (and sounds like i was in the exact position as your bf when i had a gf) i still find small breasted women attractive, it all depends on the woman. It's apples and oranges.
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>>18466536
> but hers are way bigger than average, maybe an F
That's already well above the average person's ideal tit size. C-D are about what most men like best, and B is really not bad either if presented properly. (Of course, we're talking model-like proportions here, most of this was figured out from people's preferences in models and the like.)

Not to say your BF couldn't be a huge tits lover, but he's with "only" a significant minority of men on this one.
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>>18466547
Cup size really means very little in how big your boobs are.
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>>18466549
hear hear
big is nice and all but flat is justice
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>>18466541
I wouldn't want surgery because I don't like how fake boobs look and I would feel like I'm giving in to my insecurities
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>>18466551
I've been a natural DD since I was 14. I was 215 lbs at my fattest. I dropped down to 110 at my lowest. My cup size never changed, just my band size.
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>>18466543
I'm an hourglass/athletic shaped. My measurements are 35-25-37. For some reason though my boobs look small to me.
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>>18466562
mmhmm, I'm the DD girl, I have only 2 inches on you in bust. I think you're full of shit, there is no way you can be a B cup.
Pics or it didn't happen
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>>18466561
Maybe my cup size didn't change because before I was wearing size B and it seemed to fit then I went to the bra store once I started gaining weight. I got a fitting for the first time in my life and it was D yet my boobs don't look big imo.
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>>18466556
Surely it should fully be something you are comfortable with.

Plus while personally I never disliked fake boobs on women that had them, there are men that do (also depends on the style of implant and how the doctor in question did his job, of course).

> I would feel like I'm giving in to my insecurities
I think it'd be more like giving in to your BF's preferences?

Though I guess how your significant other sees you will have an effect on your own insecurities, I don't really think you generally have something to be very insecure about on B cup tits & a fit enough body in a good outfit.

Pretty sure posting some good shots in decent lingerie on /b/ would result in a normal sized fap storm if you are as you describe yourself.
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>>18466551
That's probably why they looks small
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>>18466542
Well if that genuinely was the extent of your argument and you said nothing offensive regarding, for example, him having a small cock or the flagging of one of his own insecurities then id say he is 100% an asshole for bringing his large-chested friend into this and certainly shouldnt be making comparisons between you and her. He is with you and therefore should not be using your insecurities as ammunition in arguments regarding household cleaning
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>>18466520
I want to see this so I know what kind of vagina would make a woman self conscious. Are you attractive otherwise?

(Also I like to look at vaginas in general)
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>>18466590
I felt revengful and tried to say something about his penis because I felt so shitty, but I couldn't bring myself to do it because I didn't want him to feel as insecure as I feel.
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>>18466597
I'm average. I'm not attractive but not unattractive either. Until you get the clothes off, then it's a nightmare. My lips hang out 2 inches, its like having a small dick down there. I've had people accuse me of being a tranny because they claim they can see my "moose knuckle" but that's just because the lips make a bulge in the crotch area.

I have weird wrinkly disproportionately large nipples too, that are inverted. But that's a whole nother insecurity.
I don't post nudes online though. I won't risk someone finding out who I am somehow and showing every single boss I'll ever have for the rest of my life.
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>>18466603
Maybe you should, but 'tis probably only equally effective if you actually slept with guys who had a significantly larger dick before.
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>>18466610
Whenever I get tempted to think that women are the ones who have it easier I remember how rough life must be for girls who aren't attractive in some way. It must be completely soul-crushing, and with little you can do to compensate for it.
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>>18466515
Listen to this OP

It sounds like early on in the relationship for the two of you. This is a huge redflag and enough of a reason to leave him. If a guy insulted me like that, he'd be out the door. He was trying to shit on your self-esteem, in-turn making you needy for his validation. In extreme cases it can become exploitation to create dependency. It's fucked.
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>>18466615
>'tis

please leave
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>>18466615
I've never slept with anyone other than him.
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>>18466610
> disproportionately large nipples too, that are inverted
Well, at least that one is probably a plus with a decent number of men.

> I won't risk someone finding out who I am somehow and showing every single boss I'll ever have for the rest of my life.
Honestly, at this point we got millions of nudes. Most don't care in a negative sense. Even if you personally identify yourself usually you just get some -or many- fans, heh.

Wouldn't even care much about "general" reputation at this point. Mainly don't do it if you don't feel comfortable with the exhibitionist attitude in it.
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>>18466511
>penis doesn't really matter to me.
Get a load of this female white knight
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>>18466462
You must be young or dating really trashy people OP. I'm in my 30s and have had girlfriends of different sizes, styles, and beliefs. Never did I throw anything about them in their face and i loved all of their perfections and imperfections. If you are young, in time you and the opposite sex will mature. If you are older, try to learn how to weed out toxic people. Best of luck.
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>>18466638
Well Ive never had anyone other than him and I like his so that's that
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>>18466520

Not >>18466597 but also interested.
Could you perhaps take a photo of just the vag and link it? Don't post it in this thread, with adv being an sfw board.

I have a terrible looking penis and am self conscious about it. It's truly hideous. At least women have the option for surgery. For guys it's game over if the lottery fails.
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If he is the type of person who would 1) speak sexually about another woman to his friends while he's dating you and 2) -even in anger- say such a disgusting a hurtful thing, he truly wanted to wound you and is a piece of garbage. The fact that that's his impulse is a very big red flag. It's one thing to say 'fuck you' in an argument, but to say something truly horrible like that or use someone's insecurity against them shows you what type of person he is.
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>>18466630
Then maybe don't bother. If you need to release on him out for a bit, use actual flaws of his.

Also feel free to tell him he's an ass for actually making you feel insecure, even if it was in anger.
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>>18466610
Well I just meant the vagina but if it's that unique i guess it's risky too.

What's an inverted nipple?
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>>18466562
Im a dude who's dick is just under 8 inches an it looks chodish on me because its girthy and im tall. I seriously wish it was just like 2 inches longer but i sure as shit am not letting some doctor cut it open.
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Quints?
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>>18466638

Its well documented that men care more about penises than women, loser.
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>>18466656
this
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>>18466656
> say such a disgusting a hurtful thing, he truly wanted to wound you and is a piece of garbage
Beh, this seems to happen in just about every relationship.

People tend to take jabs using former partners and such if they get angry.

It sure is hurtful. But if you ask me, not extraordinary at all. This even happens at almost all ages - from pubescent kids in school to grandparents not long before death.
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>>18466620
I thankful to at least be not ugly enough to reap some benefits of being a woman with clothes on. I'm cute enough I can pull off the "I'm a helpless woman please help me big strong man" puppy eyes sometimes when I need help.

But you're right, sexual appeal is the number one most important trait of a woman, and when you don't have that you can never hope for anything long term. You can only rely on guys for as long as their attention span can keep them on you clothed.
I was able to keep a guy for a good amount of time by telling him I'd blow him whenever he wanted and he never had to return the favor or do anything with me. He could sit back and I'd be his blowjob machine if he would just stay with me. That kept him for a couple months, then he said he wanted real sex and I had to let him go because I just couldn't show him my train wreck.
>>18466637
Nipples that take up almost the entire surface area of the breast and look like a wrinkly old bald man? Guys find that attractive?
>Honestly, at this point we got millions of nudes
I know, but still. It takes one person to want to make an enemy out of me to ruin my life forever. In my line of work, nudes would be the end of my career.
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>>18466673

Eh, shit happens in the heat of the moment
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>>18466652
>>18466597

Damn this is really creepy but i'll post my junk to balance the scale on that ask. (I think my penis is mostly ok though, so that may not be entirely fair... my balls are ugly though)

Here's a mildly interesting documentary about a guy with a micro penis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3oYuQv5JE
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>>18466675
How old are you?
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>>18466671
Well then post a citation you fat cunt.
Either way i think dudes care way more about pussy than either gender does about dick.
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>>18466603
Good for you for not doing so. I've had a guy be angry for me not verbally hitting him harder back. It's weird how certain guys will turn resentful for you being nice. It can be a much better torturous revenge when used right.

>>18466615
Don't do this. You're sending the message that this abusive behaviour is okay.
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>>18466630
This is cute, but see >>18466625 and >>18466641

The guy sounds like an asshole, how dare he bring up another girl's features in comparison to your own. Me and my girl were going out for 4 years, we split 3 weeks ago. We argued a lot, and it hurts that we split, but neither of us ever reduced ourselves to the level of petty, personal attacks
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>>18466652
I can find one that looks like it, but I won't post my own. I know how channers can do things like cross check a single mole or freckle to another picture and find out who people are and where they live.
>>18466659
It means they don't stick out. They're "innies". God's cruel joke, give me a whopping roadkill hanging vagina and then innie nipples. It can actually be a real problem if I ever have kids I want to breast feed one day, I might actually be incapable of breast feeding since there would be nothing for the baby to latch on. My boobs are basically always barbie smooth, other than the wrinkles. Even when I'm fully aroused, even when I'm butt naked in subzero temperatures. Its always flat.
>>18466685
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>and said him saying he loves me is a lie
>told me he wished he was going out with the other girl because her boobs were better
It sounds like he was being snarky at you brushing off or denying his feelings. Any hint of biting sarcasm in his tone when he said that?
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>>18466679

It's not creepy. It's completely anonymous. Honestly Its from a purely psychological standpoint.

Even if one's genitalia were unique, you've got to ask yourself - who the hell could find out?

Even if someone were to find out, what can they possibly criticize you for. That's like making fun of someone for showing their genitals to a gyno/urologist.
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>>18466707
Looks like the surgery only costs a few thousand dollars here in the US. Where are you from?
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>>18466675
>Nipples that take up almost the entire surface area of the breast and look like a wrinkly old bald man? Guys find that attractive?
Well, not all? My guess is it's less than a quarter that do. But really still quite many like large areola or large nipples - yes.

If you don't want to post tits yourself, you can try to gauge this based on published materials - photos or artwork.

Inverted nipples are even a specific fetish I recall isn't too rare.

> In my line of work, nudes would be the end of my career.
Many vastly overrate how easy it is to end careers with nudes these days (or for that matter, belonging to a BDSM social group or swingers or whatever else).

But I guess I don't know you. I'm sure in some instances and places it might be too much for a career.

Plus if you're not comfortable with the idea for even irrational reasons, it might be a bad idea anyhow.
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>>18466717
>18466717
I meant that asking was a bit of a creeper move... Pictures of genitalia are fine. Sorry for the confusion.
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>>18466712
Yeah now he is saying he said it because he knew I was insecure about it and he didn't mean it.
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>>18466625
I'll also add that you can still breakup if you love someone. If you really do love him, this could easily be what's best for him. It's opening up an opportunity for him to learn to control impulse. You're forcing him to confront that aspect of himself. Not only would he eventually benefit, but also whatever girls come next into his life won't have to deal with that shit.
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I am a male with one inverted nipple and am also incredibly self conscious about it. To the point I never want anyone to see me with my shirt off. Because most of the time, someone calls me out on it and says wtf is up with your left nipple pointing inwards? I feel ur pain OP, at least people probably don't call you out on being a freak because you're female
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>>18466693
> You're sending the message that this abusive behaviour is okay.
No, you just show that I also can take the abuse equally far. If the other person doesn't realize they overstepped a line then, you at least know what you're dealing with.


You're already dealing with adults, not kids who are willing to respect your "better behavior" as authoritative. It's all frank negotiations if you ask me.
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>>18466730
I don't know how personal the stuff you said about "the past" was but it just sounds like a fight that got too heated too fast. Don't just throw whatever you have away and see how he behaves and reacts after you've smoothed this out.
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>>18466471
>so she's fat lol.
Chestlets coping as hard as manlets these days.
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>>18466707
>I can find one that looks like it

This is actually a great solution. Again, remember to link as opposed to post
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>>18466718
I'm in the US, I just work a crappy slave wage job and go to school so basically my entire paycheck goes to rent, utilities, food, and my student bill. I have about 900 in my savings. Once I get out of school though I'll be able to save more, and have a better job dude to having a degree.
>>18466721
idk I still feel like the odds of finding one of these fetishy dudes is gonna be a hard search

I'm going into social work, specifically dealing with children. You can't have any sort of sex scandal when you work with children. Especially when you're taking in children who may have been sexually abused, if you have nudes out you'll be accused of being a child molester by the actual child molester parents in a last ditch effort to "save" their kids.
This is literally something they've told us multiple times throughout my program, "do not under any circumstances have a bad online footprint. If you have bad pictures out, you better do anything in your power to get them down because they will spend every second of their lives trying to get dirt on you to get a new social worker who might play ball with them"
They do it to lawyers and judges too, trying to play the courts in their favor.
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>>18466743
Relationship aren't "an eye for an eye". Do you not understand what sort of negativity this could potentially breed? Hurting the boy will cause him self-esteem issues and further trust issues in the relationship. It isn't going to solve anything and the girl will regret it once she's cooled down. Trying to hurt the people you love out of revenge is just as sick as the intial punch.

Not to mention that what could be considered equal abuse is often subjective and clouded in heated moments. It's all emotion based.
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>>18466753
http://www.labialibrary.org.au/photo-gallery/#
the top right corner pic is about how long mine are, but mine are a tad thicker than hers. My outer lips are also much more puffy, kind of like the first pic in the second row.
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>>18466691

>post a citation to common knowledge shit

Google is your friend anon. That, and experience. Chicks love dicks but are nowhere near obsessed as dudes are, that was my point. You dont see chicks drawing dicks in bathroom stalls as often for one.
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>>18466751
If you've got a fetish for fatties that's fine man. Everyone's got a kink, fat chicks need love too.
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>>18466492
>I also brouht up stuff he has done in the past
Can I give you some advice on this? I know it's not the point of the thread but when you're upset with someone don't go digging in the vault for things to get mad about, it's not constructive and frankly it's not fair. Focus on the issue at hand and how to fix it, not keeping a running tally of times they were in the wrong.
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Cowtits are best, pedofags gb2/jail/
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>>18466776
>kink
>fat chicks need love
>>>/cgl/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/tumblr/
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>>18466767
This is probably no consolation to you but ima go ahead and say it. I'm a straight male who doesnt give a fuck about how vaginas look.
Nor do I have any concept of what kind of vagina looks better than another.

It's just not what I have my eyes fixated on when im in the moment. It's a hole for babies to come out of and dicks to go in. The rest of the body is the main focal point during sex
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>>18466767

Thanks for that. I've been looking for a representative picture of my penis, but i can't find any. It's in a class of its own, hah.

Fyi It's small, curved on *three* different axes, pivots to the left, has phimosis, and perhaps worse of all, has dry skin. Only the latter two can be fixed, and will take a considerable amount of work to do so.

Given the weight western society places on sex, genital anxiety is a particularly hard burden to bear. I don't know how I'm going to deal with this when I become sexually active.

I hope you get your surgery and confidence you want.
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>>18466767
if your pussy lips look like the ones you described, you're fine. It wouldn't stop me from sleeping with you
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>>18466844
>>18466851
I've been rejected for it before. Especially for oral.
The other issue I have is I know a lot of dudes have a preference for the porn star innie pussy, but don't care about outies. That's just not good enough for me I guess. I want to be the preference, not just the "better than nothing"
>>18466850
Sorry to hear man. I wish the best for you too.
I'm really nervous about destroying the nerves, idk what's worse to guys, a dead feelingless pussy or a beef curtain.
I suppose I can always fake it though. At this point I'd rather be completely numb than alone for life.
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>>18466774
>You don't see chicks drawing dicks in bathroom stalls as often for one.
I honestly wouldn't know. But also i do not remember ever seeing a dick drawn in a mens bathroom either.
Put it this way the average dude(assuming he goes in public) probably sees a handful of women everyday and he thinks "man I'd like to see her naked and possibly bone" meanwhile the only dick he thinks about is his own. Tell me do you see men on a regular basis and think " man id like to catch a glimpse of that salty wang".?
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>>18466855
>The other issue I have is I know a lot of dudes have a preference for the porn star innie pussy, but don't care about outies

Ever consider you might be basing your opinion on men's views of pussies on something made up?

My girlfriend, I guess, has this innie you speak of. However I couldn't give a flying fuck if it was an outie I don't think id even notice. It's just not something i would personally pay a great deal of attention to and certainly isn't deciding factor of attractiveness
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>>18466762
>idk I still feel like the odds of finding one of these fetishy dudes is gonna be a hard search
I'm really not so sure about that. Gut feeling is that it's really not extremely difficult.

> I'm going into social work, specifically dealing with children.
Sure. I get this view, and they probably have a point.

OTOH I'm occasionally hanging out with the crowd that does it anyways, it changes your views a bit. The thing ultimately is that if you add up any kind of social or medical work, public and leadership position, any position that may be mixed up with someone's corporate or poltical image, position of "special" trust like lawyers or police... well, that's just a shitload of people who really shouldn't be swingers, known BDSM group members, exhibitionists or even just "people with nudes on the internet". But that's not really how it is in the end. And many ultimately do stick their heads out to even just hang out with like-minded people, never mind dating them.
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>>18466864
Not that I want to enter this shitposting, but I think the argument for "men think about dicks" isn't usually in a sexual sense. Men think about each other's dicks in competition.
See an ugly dude with a hot chick? "Guy must have a huge dick"
Your girl talking about her ex? "Was he bigger than me?"
Hot girl with a guy "Is his dick a curved as mine is?"
things like that.
I mean there's a ton of those "rate my dick" threads on soc, guys like to compare for competitions sake.
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>>18466866
Oh I understand I'm probably putting way to much into the handful of times I've let guys see it and it's gone poorly, and I'm definitely letting my own insecurities run me. It was just so humiliating those times the guys got my panties off and then just shut down at the sight of it. It's not an experience you can live through many times before you break.
And it's an extremely bad sample, but hey, look around this website. My kind are not well received around these parts. I know they're just trolls who wanna be the bully for once in their life instead of the victim, but it gets to me. Some of this just HAS to come out in the real world too.
>>18466871
I've never met anyone at least. Majority of people would frown upon my body, or accept it as passable at best.
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>>18466872
Honestly whoever called me a loser started the shitposting.(because i am :(. ) I was trying to end it and i asked you a genuine question. Do you see an attractive guy in public and think about his shlong at some point? And shit like this.
>Hot girl with a guy "Is his dick a curved as mine is?"
things like that.
I mean there's a ton of those "rate my dick" threads on soc, guys like to compare for competitions sake.
Is pretty much a 4 chins exclusive level of autism. Im definitely not a normie but i find it hard to believe that any significant number of men do/say shit like this irl.
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>>18466881
I know 4chan is, well, 4chan but I've even talked about this with my guy friends and boyfriends. It's especially apparent with the whole, ex bf topic. They're almost always concerned about the ex's dick. Was it bigger than mine? Was it better than mine? How many dicks has she had that are better than mine? Can I live up to other dude's dicks?

That's the biggest example of dudes thinking about dicks other than their own, even if they're hypothetical dicks they can't attach a face to.

But as for me personally, I don't think about dicks much. I'm not sure how "normal" of a sample I am since I have an incredibly low sex drive and a aversion to penetrative sex in general. The only dicks I ever think about are the ones I'm with or have been with. I cant say I've ever thought about a random stranger's dick, like a guy walking down the street wondering how big his dick is lol.

You also gotta keep in mind while men are most attracted to things like tits on a woman's body, women are most attractive to other things. Like to most women, the most important part of a man's physical appearance is his face and overall build. Where as the reverse, men to women, is usually ass/tits. Its a difference in attraction.
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>>18466879
I think this is mainly coming down to the way in which you see yourself. Consider a magnet, which can attract and repel objects based on their polarity.

Those of us with a poor idea of how we look will attract certain negative beliefs about ourselves, for example, an outie vagina, beef curtains or whatever.

Then we repel other beliefs which may be positive, such as the fact you may have a great all-around body shape, be attractive in other ways physically and could have a great personality.

By that nature of the magnet, positive attributes are repelled due to the negative feeling we have towards ourselves, leaving yourself vulnerable to the overpowering negative image which is attracted.

Consequently, as you attract this negative ideology, and have bad experiences with men in the bedroom, this idea is seemingly confirmed in your head and reinforces itself as a fact. This fact is an illusion though and takes its form based on an incredibly biased ideology developed through a negative view of youself.

You're overthinking it, basically.
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>>18466901
True, I know I have a lot of insecurity and self hate rattling around in there. I feel physically uncomfortable getting compliments, and tend to reject them as "they don't mean that, it's just what you say in this situation. It's just meaningless small talk" So I understand that theory.

I've actually been feeling conflicted lately. I met this guy and weve been talking. I'm not attracted to him really at all, at least not physically. I like him plenty every other way though. I've been telling myself that I can't ask for attractive guys because I'm not attractive enough for them and should "stay in my own lane" so to speak. I shouldn't reject this guy because how insulting would that be, being rejected for not being physically appealing enough by a girl who's equally unappealing.
Though I suppose he wouldn't quite know how unappealing I am yet since clothes have not come off.
On the other hand though, idk how rude it is of me to continue whatever it is we're doing if I don't have my whole heart in it, you know?

Maybe I shouldn't be so shallow, idk. My life has been so surrounded by looks for the past couple years. I want to be attractive. I want to date someone attractive.
Am I a bad person for that? I don't know.
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>>18466471
>Chances are you'll just pick a new thing to be insecure about because deep down this is a much bigger psychological issue

This is some of the most pogniant advice I have ever read. I know it's super obvious, but this just helped me come to terms with some of my insecurities.
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>>18466896
Idk maybe its just me, but any girl that doesn't want to be with me i pretty much cut contact with and stop thinking about her. And I've talked with a lot of my buddies about women we've been with and no one ever brings up shit like."Oh i hope she never had a bigger dick then mine inside her". But i guess that's something dudes wouldn't bring up around their buddies. Personally i would just be happy to get my dick touched by a chick that's not a fat slut, but unfortunately that's all i ever seem to get.
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>>18466924
I know it because I was there too. Fueled my eating disorder.
>If I could just lose weight then, THEN I'll be happy
>Lose weight, still not happy
>Then I obviously just need to lose a little more
>Still not happy
>Repeat until I'm hospitalized at 93 lbs or so.
>Realize my weight was not going to make me happy. What I wanted was to feel loved and desired, and was using my ex as a standard, an ex who strongly desired thin (though not anorexic) women.
>Work through the issues of why I never felt good enough for love life
>Resurfaced a long repressed sexual assault memory from childhood
>finally come to terms with that
>suddenly my life is much brighter.
>the end.
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>>18466879
>I've never met anyone at least. Majority of people would frown upon my body, or accept it as passable at best.
If you tried dating fully *at random* and only showing this problem if everything went well enough that you both undress, that'd surely be taxing.
I think the better method is dating those that already know and decided they aren't bothered or like what they see. Same as for most of us who have more uncommon features, needs or preferences.
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>>18466987
H-how do you go about asking that early on though?
"Hi my name is femanon, hows it going nice to meet you, nice place you got here. Sooooooo how do you feel about gross roastie vaginas?"
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>I did say some cruel things...he got super mad and told me he wished he was going out with the other girl because her boobs were better. Is it justified for me to feel jealous and angry?
I mean he fucked up there but what the fuck did you say? It's not like his comments were just him trying to hurt your self esteem since you apparently tried to do that first.
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>>18466991
I'll RP with you anon!
Oh come on anon it cant be that bad. At least your not fat.(right?) Well there's only one way to find out.(unzipps pants). Seriously though for me the second a girl references her pussy to me, its an instant turn on.
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>>18466996
ha ha. In the end though I don't think there's any tactful way to inquire his pussy preferences beforehand. It's just a unzip and pray, it's nerve racking.
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>>18467004
I assume you have pretty high standards. A lot of guys would be tickled fucking pink to have a chick who's a 5 out of ten show them any interest.(i would) Mind you, your talking to a guy who browses the advice section of a Jordinian ferret grooming forum for a pass time. And if a guy wont bang because your vag looks weird, he's probably getting better sex easier anyway.
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>>18466462
>>18466603
Don't listen to >>18466615
See how bad you feel now? Do you want him to feel the same? Do you really want to sink to his level? What he said was wrong, but depending on what you said, it was for a reason. He's likely just upset. If he truly regrets it, forgive him.

On another note, it's actually a bit worse for a guy when a girl says his dick is small versus when a guy says a girl's boobs are small (in a negative context). Seeing as you can't really tell if a guy is big or small when they have clothes on or when they're soft. So they could actually have a big dick but nobody would believe them unless they saw them naked with a hard on. For example, I'm 4 inches soft, which is small. But hard, I'm like 6.6 inches, which is above average (average is between 5.1-5.5 inches). But if a girl were to tell everyone I was 4 inches hard, I would have no way to disprove it.

But as for a girl, if she has big tits you'll be able to tell from a simple glance unless she's wearing fucking arctic expedition gear. I guess you could argue the same way as the guy argument if you want to talk about unattractive vaginas, but I think that's a lot more uncommon.
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>>18466991
You probably have to decide how you want to do it.

Certainly not just your problem. It's also Soooo how do you feel about:
- Being tied up and getting cut with a knife during sex
- Only doing anal/oral/hands cause I have a vaginal condition
- Sucking my dick, as a man
- Having about three more people in the same bed (don't worry, its just one man and one woman extra that fucks me, none will already care about you)
And so on. There are people that have this openly in all profiles and people who are very indirect.
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>>18466492
>and said him saying he loves me is a lie
You bitch.
Just because he's sexually attracted to huge tits doesn't mean he doesn't love you. Quit being jealous and bringing up irrelevant shit. Just because he's lazy doesn't mean you gotta dig for ammo that will do nothing but harm to the relationship. You're both in the wrong but you fucked up more by bringing up the distant past out of spite. Getting upset because he likes girls with big tits is like getting upset over him jacking it to porn. It's fucking stupid and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>18467318
Shit anon calm down.

I'm sure you have your own set of insecurities that would negatively affect a relationship. It's not he end of the world.
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I didn't read this thread. I don't care about this thread. small boobs tend to be better. big boobs tend to not be perky and just floppy and saggy.

saggy boobs are not good. small and perky are great. also small boobs tend to have more sensitive nipples. perfect for me cause a woman moaning and squirming in pleasure is infinitely hotter than sacks of fat.

there's my .02
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>>18466471
fpbp
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booblets when will they learn
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>>18467318
I get upset by him watching porn too. I feel inadequate because he said that about her tits....and I understand what I did was wrong, but I wouldn't say what I did was worse.
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>>18467573
Not the guy you've been replying to, but it's not a game of who said the worst thing. The issue is that you're trying to hurt him because you feel hurt by his preference of bigger tits. But he still cares about you obviously, you fucking mong.
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There are guys out there that prefer small tits
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I'm sorry but life is just unfair. You now understand some vague form of what short men feel.
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>>18466462
Angry? Yes
Jealous? No
Small tits are way better that large saggy tits. Just think about it, if hers aren't saggy now, they will be in a few short years.
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>>18466462
Fellow small titted girl here.
What your bf said to you was said in anger but it still holds truth.

Men prefer big tits no matter if they lie through their teeth and say they do not. The only ones who truly don't have pedophilc tendencies in my experience. I say this because the men I was with while having a flat chest always complimented me in ways of saying I looked "cute" and "girlish" they were also all into loli. Go figure.

I had a nearly flat chested rack before I got pregnant, now I have a full chest. The way guys treat me during sex is completely different now, in a good way. They act visibly turned on and can't get enough of my Breasts. It's like night and day. Men aren't excited to have sex with me when my chest is flat it's crazy how different they act just becUse I have boobs now. Before my boobs grew I never felt like a woman but felt like a girl who never grew into a woman.

Don't belueve the people who say that you should put up with having a flat chest and to be happy or ok with it, because I know that this is almost impossible to attain.

Your bf is a dick for what he said to you but let it be a life lesson in what men really desire. It's tits.

What he said to you was the equivalent of telling him that you would rather be with someone who has a bigger dick. Not cool. So yes your insecurity and jealousy is justified but I want you to know that most men will want a woman with Breasts and they will feel regret if they settle for a woman with no chest.

Get a tit job if you can it erases the shitty feelings that come with being a flat girl.
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>>18466462
Scrolled through the thread, and I've got to say: You sound very insecure and petty.
You started the shit show and then got mad at him for throwing shit back at you? Fucking hell.
He sounds like a Lordship too though. This doesn't sound like a healthy relationship to me, and you certainly don't sound like you're ready for anything this intimate. I'd advise going on a dating hiatus until you got your shit together.
There's nothing wrong with small tits, but this isn't about the tits; you're envious and insecure. You need to get over yourself before you try to start a relationship.
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>>18468254
> Men prefer big tits no matter if they lie through their teeth and say they do not.
That's not entirely true. Shape > Size. I'd take small and perky over big and saggy any day of the week.
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>>18468266
> Lordship
legit have no idea where auto got that from. it was probably supposed to be shitlord
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Big titties bring all the boys to the yard
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OP, I am also a flat-chested girl. Aside from some occasional teasing during high school, I have honestly have not had any bad experiences about my tit size as an adult, however I have a fat ass, a small waist, and pretty face.

My bf and I have been together for several years. I know my bf likes titties, but it's really not a deal breaker for men.

There are so many other sexy things about a woman other than some jiggly titties. I mean, sure a guy can drool over some big tits, but if their sex life is shit, she can't suck a dick, she nags him, she just lays there during sex, she's dumb, they have no commonalities, etc. are the tits even worth it in the long run? No, they're not worth it, they're just something to whack off to meaninglessly.

Your boyfriend clearly said that to you out of anger because he knew it was something you were insecure about. He likely didn't mean what he said, but that also doesn't make it right. That was a low blow. He wanted to hurt your feelings because you had an argument, he likely doesn't plan to act on what he said.

However, he needs to apologize, and definitely respect you and reassure your insecurities. Is he still talking to that other girl? Even just as friends? If so, he needs to back the fuck up and focus on you if he's serious about you. After saying something like that, the ball is in your court, and he needs to make it up to you. (that is, if you plan on making this work)
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this is like that shit with eyebrows or scars
women be like, "oh no, my eyebrows aren't thick and a specific shape; better shave'm off and draw on some anime bullshit with a pencil."
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>>18468290
I'm a man and i do be a hypocrite if i said that i don't like big titties, but, that being said, all the girls i've dated had normal boobs(at least from my perspective), i think that when it comes to actual human relationships, an expecific physical preference is easily overshadowed by many other factors, i can't see myself with a woman solely for the fact that she has big tits, i think it works the same from "women/dick size"
perspective.
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>>18466462
You have to be 18+ to be here.
>but i am 18
You still act like 15 though. Break up, mature a bit and then look for new bf.

Also small tits are ok.
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i LOVE small titties
yeah, thats my contribution to the thread
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>>18466462
He's deliberately targetting your insecurities. That's a red fucking flag, lady.

I've dated bustier girls but I would never compare their size to my wife's.
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>>18468765
This

That's not abusive, but the fact he was specifically saying things to break your self esteem down is definitely going down an abusive path

It will only get worse
Take this from someone who's been through it
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>>18466776
I'm an ass man, but you sound like a manlet screeching
>fucking lanklets, when will they learn?
Some people are genetically superior and have naturally big tits, get over it.
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I don't discriminate against boobs, I love them all. Small, fat, fake, botched, bowling balls, you name it. I LUB DEM TITTAYS !!
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>>18466462
>I don't discriminate against boobs, I love them all. Small, fat, fake, botched, bowling balls, you name it. I LUB DEM TITTAYS !!

Then why did you choose a picture with big ones?
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>>18470102
idk lol
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>>18467573
Men like to jack off a lot, it's just the way they are. Getting mad at it is petty, insufferable, and it reveals your insecurities.
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>>18466516
This
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>>18466462
For me I just like girls to be fairly skinny. I don't care about boobs size that much. I've tried to sleep with a girl that had boobs the size of bowling balls, but she wasn't really fit enough for me and it was too weird.

Everyone has their tastes I guess.
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>>18466462
of course its justified to feel jealous. also, because he insulted your tits I think you have every right to insult his dick if you happen to find the right time. I guarantee you that any insult to his dick will (in his mind) be 10x worse than him saying anything about another chick's boobs.
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