Professional Dating Coach here, I teach guys how to get laid

>>18455739
that's a real job?


jesus, people fucking suck these days

>>18455739
What can u do to regain a guys interest? He was head over heels for me but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore.

I'm a loser and my standards are too high but I don't want to lower them. What do?

>>18455739
I'm going for coffee with the girl that used to be my best friend, then I had a crush on her, told her and she said she needed some time away from me, what now? I don't really have a crush on her anymore, well, at least not like I used to.

Here's who I am without being too generous

>quiet, too quiet because used to being lonely
>attractive face
>skinny ish
>bachelor of arts
>full time job around 40K a year
>have car
>saving house
>go out every weekend
>know everyone and on nice terms but superficial

Any tips? My job is basically my life at this point

>>18455739
Is it possible to start a relationship with someone i see once every month/two months? For texting, a few messages every two or three days.

>>18455770
>know everyone and on nice terms but superficial

There is your problem dude.... Next time you are with your group of friends all you have to do is be more real.

Don't laugh at something you don't find funny and don't pretend you care about anything that you don't actually care about.. It sounds simple but is very difficult... If you do this you will notice that everything will improve.

>>18455739
I'm not looking for advice really, just checking I didn't fuck up too much

>never had a gf, never dated, never kissed, virgin
>meet girl on tinder
>she takes a long time to trust me
>we liked each other
>we lived far apart
>we went out on a date once
>I'm moving to college soon after summer
>we'd still be getting to know each other by then
>the next 4 years would be talking online, meeting up once a month for 5/6 hours
>she'd take forever to even consider sex with me
>we decided to break it off since distance would be very inconvenient
for a first relationship ever, did I fuck it up? would it be worth it? or did I do the right thing?
>we're both insecure and introverted, trust would probably not be an issue but we'd take forever knowing each other
I just felt like I went 'too deep' for my first time and should try something more local and 'faster' so to speak. We parted on good terms tho, she was really nice and understanding

>>18455748
Cook a bacon breakfast for him one morning naked and serve him a beer.

>>18455739
I'm 5'8" 23 year old virgin.

How do I get girls?

Don't tell me to go for very short girls, because they too want 6'0"+ guys.

My gf isn't feminine enough and doesn't do enough to keep me attracted to her. I've laid out what I like/dislike and it takes hassling her to get anything done. I've been wanting to see her in a dress/skirt for 6 months for example.

She JUST started taking me out to places and doing shit for me. AND we're on mismatched sex drives, is this fixable or should I just leave her? She has all the other qualities I want in a relationship.

met a girl last night we sort of hit it off but i didnt get her number. i was able to find her on facebook. should i message her on there or is that creepy.

how do i go from meeting a girl at a social event (which im most probably hosting) to asking her out?

im talking about a step by step 'talk about hobbies' -> 'talk about music' -> 'touch her hand' -> 'compliment her hair' -> etc. kind of thing

exactly what do i need to do?

>>18455918
It's creepy, just try to show up at an event or bar she says she's going to and get her # in person.

>>18455739
do you resent your clients for their experiencing what you once thought was fun but has become mundane since you accomplished and then monetized it? or do you look down on them for being pathetic faggots who need a real man to hold their hand while they try to get some trim? ..or both?

How do I keep myself from comparing girls to my ex?

It's been 3 months and while I know a good enough girl will help me forget, I feel like she's set the bar much too high and I fear I may be disappointed with whoever I end up with.

How should I remedy this without alcohol?

Not OP but I have experience and can't help myself

>>18455903
Your problem is that you do not approach women and you know that. Do not lie to me and tell me that you actually approach women all the time, and everything would go perfect if you were just 6 ft tall...

Listen man I am 6 ft and girls don't just come and hop on my dick.

So focus on what you can change, by approaching women and getting good at talking to them....
>>18455918
Message her... I want you to completely sperg out and learn a lesson

>>18455919
I found that the easiest thing to do at parties is for beginners, is to go up to the girl and try to be as fun and high energy as possible. It does not matter what you say, but you should tease her and leave an impression. Eventually she will shit test you by talking to some other guy or do something along does lines. Simply talk to other people an almost like magic she will come back to you...

There is always the chance that she fucks some guy that is way cooler than you, but fuck it.

>>18455947
> but fuck it

wow whats your hourly rate?

Can you break down a typical client & the process of how your coaching works?

>>18455942
>It's been 3 months
2.5 years here
you are in for a rough ride, anon
alcohol doesnt really help after a while either

>>18455942
I think its all in your head man, its something you have to get over, that ship has sailed so stop thinking about it and find good things about new girls you'll meet. If you never stop thinking about your ex then you'll never forget her, forgetting is key now, otherwise you'd just start comparing new girls to the last one and it'll never end, but if you forget you'll be able to focus on the new ones and find things to love about them. I'm not sure what else to tell you man, what I told you seems to make sense to me, but idk

>>18455822
Thats pretty fucking awful advice

> Just be yourself!!

>>18455739
How do you write online articles for money?

How do I get a gf or sex with a girl around my age?

>26
>live in London on my own
>never had attention from women ever, asked one out, flirted with one, done anything
>except for stuff with escorts
>no social life at all since 18, even at university, no social media
>never been to pub, club, or party
>work in office job where I had nothing to say to coworkers during the one lunch I socialised with them - established as the ugly loser loner autist beta since then
>lift weights and run but have no other hobbies except reading and spending too much time on the internet (will hopefully stop this soon, I stopped the junk food recently) and, for now, looking around London

I just have no clue. My face is ugly. I'm fine physically otherwise. I know that women get 500 matches a day on tinder with Chads and live lives on easy mode. I just want pragmatic advice, no feelgood shit.

I am not a normie and seeing other normies easily talk to each other is demoralising. I am not plugged in

>>18456149
lol you just made a thread

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I am at a situation as pic related

>Asian
>5'10"
>Athletic to normie standards (job requires a level of fitness)
>In a small town in the South
>Only prospects I get are tinder/bumble matches, and its not even a lot (working on better pics) and its flaky since its tinder

Though people always say race does not matter, I think it does, but thats not going to stop me. So short of getting surgery to look more caucasian how else can I demonstrate DHV?

I am not exactly killing it at night game either (out of practice) what I find is that I can open, but struggle with "hooks" lately, I used to be good at this. Any "wax on, wax off" method you can advise me so I can practice? I am in a small town so daygaming probably wouldnt work well since you can become "that creepy guy" very quickly.

Do girls leave hints at what you do wrong during a bad date? How would you pick on them? How do you tell the difference between a girl that's a narcissist and not giving you/anyone respect and a girl that just doesn't dig you?

I'm not a virgin but my sex life is filled with brief affairs with homely or "curvy" women. I wasn't interested in pursuing the one chance I've had at a relationship because I didnt like the girl that much. I say this (excuse the humblebrag) because I'm fairly good looking to the average girl. My feeling is that uglier girls look past my awkward personality to fuck a hot guy and that better looking/more confident women see a borderline aspie and get out as soon as possible.

Is there such thing as a "real" connection you can have with a girl when you're an adult? Something like the feeling of admiration toward a high school crush. I couldnt care less about the women I have sex with nowadays and it's very depressing.

>>18456013
I usually do it face to face (infield coaching) for like 50 bucks but most of my clients are from the social circle of incels that I have acquired for business purposes. 15 buck paypal for 2 one hour long skype lessons... Only because I have never coached online and want to get my feet wet.

>>18456020
Again not OP but I guess I hijacked this thread now. It's hard to describe my clients... Because when most people imagine someone that pays money for someone else to teach them about "getting girls" they imagine some complete degenerate. The guys that I work with are REALLY shy with anxiety issues usually, and are also very submissive, but are all around nice guys (for all I know). I usually meet them at their house, talk to them for like an hour and size them up. I figure out what I want to fix then we go to whatever mall is near them and do some Daygame. The mall is literally hell on Earth of these guys because the girls are young and attractive and some are jailbait, so the guy feels really weird about it. But by the end of my lesson I always see an improvement. Of course I also demonstrate to him "how it's done". We then come back to his house and I give him tips/pointers and suggest habits to improve his game. Again I mostly do this with my social circle of incels when they ask "Hey, how are you so good with girls" or something along those lines


>>18456115
When people say "just b yourself", they are really saying "be what society wants you to be and only pretend you are being yourself".... Believe it or not most people are really cool deep down inside but they just can't seem to show it in society, because they are so limited. It sounds cheesy, but believe me sweetie.

>>18456167
I REALLY empathize with you. I can't even imagine how I would do game in a small town. It's funny because I usually remind my clients that LA is a very large city and they will most likely never see these girls again, but the funny thing is that you can't tell yourself that to make it easier for yourself as a beginner. But it seems like you actually somehow managed to break passed the beginner stage so I will give you massive props for that. As far as maintaining a women's attention and attraction through a conversation, forget about any "methods" and focus on the vibe you are giving off. A lot of guys make the mistake of trying to be "friendly and cool", but in attempting this they actually fall into the women's frame and enter a validation seeking mode. "Oh, what will happen if I say this?". Ironically this is the whole purpose of running game, but you have to come from a place of superiority, even if you don't feel it. What I suggest you do is after you open a girl up begin to screen her. Try and pick up on the vibe she is giving off and adjust your conversation accordingly. For example if I insult a girl and she get's really worked up about it, I adjust my game according to that. If she just shrugs it off and the vibe changes a little bit I know to try something else. Remember to do this well after you open, but not too deep into the conversation.

>>18456172
Isn't it ironic that your desire to please women and not come off as an autist actually makes you come off as an autist who can't please women? If a girl is on a date with you that basically means "Let's see if this guy is worthy of fucking me or not". But to answer your question, if you get a feeling that the girls is disinterested, instead of wondering if she is a narc or just not digging you, try and change something that you are doing. Just take action and see her response, THIS is how you will learn.

>>18456181
Sure man, not exactly what you think, but it exists.

>>18456332
>womens frame
>validation
Can you elaborate further?

>>18455739
At what age or circumstances should a virgin give up trying to find a gf?

>>18456332
>Isn't it ironic that your desire to please women and not come off as an autist actually makes you come off as an autist who can't please women?
I feel that. It's so obvious too. The deeper problem here is that I just have no clue what to do or what I want (other than to have sex), so I just try and fix that by trying to be a nice guy/please her. Not a nice guy in the worst sense, but I let the girl direct where the conversation is going and I end up doing a lot of smiling and nodding, and then just a "that's cool/interesting" when she finishes talking. It obviously isnt getting me anywhere but I just don't know what to talk about

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>>18455739
>22
>kissless virgin who lives at home
>not terribly unattractive, in fact have had girls hit on me before
>put all my faith into one girl when I was 17 thinking shed be my first but it didnt happen
>have a job, going to college in the fall
>putting all my bets that once there, ill finally get a girl
Im not a total sperg, I can talk to girls and asked two out not that long ago but they both said no so im slowly getting better. How stupid am I for waiting like this and what chance do I have? Its cliche but id rather my first time be with somebody I like and was able to charm on my own. I have a few dating apps but nothing ever comes of it and honestly id rather have the glory of meeting a girl face to face

>>18455767
Become worthy of your high standards through constant and continuous self improvement.

Not OP btw

>>18456399
You never give up, unless of course your dick has fell off or something like that

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>>18455746
yep, and yep, hey gives me an easy as job that pays well though, i'm not complaining
>>18455748
Get him to invest in you, be it time, energy, money, etc. Simple psychology
>>18455767
pretty much what the other guy said, I used to be that way, but I built myself up to the point I deserve the girls I've always wanted
>>18455768
what do you mean what now? if you don't have a crush on her then what are your intentions???
>>18455770
Stop being quiet, learn to be outgoing, practice it. I don't care how naturally introverted you are, you can learn to be a talkative motherfucker

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>>18455770
also, actually go after women, and don't have superficial connections, learn to form deeper connections with people
>>18455775
It's possible, not advisable
>>18455822
agreed with this dude, don't be "on nice terms", it sounds stupid to say "just be yourself", but thats quite literally what it is, don't be afraid of hurting feelings, or being rejected, truly put yourself out there, people love to see a truly authentic person and want to be around that
>>18455845
I don't think you fucked up personally, it doesn't sound worth it at all, it sounds like you did the right thing. There are many local options that are just more realistic for a healthy maintainable relationship, not that it would be impossible to have one like you speak of, but it would be difficult and unlikely to work out

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>>18455903
Lol I'm 5'7 my friend, exactly what the other dude said, focus on what you can change. Get good at talking to women, take care of your appearance, live an attractive lifestyle. But yeah mainly just fucking approach man, your height doesn't mean shit unless you're a midget. Expect to get blown out because you're a sperg, it's all a part of the process, eventually you'll become confident in your own skin and girls will love it. Girls will even shit test you and tell you you're too short, but don't falter, don't let it shake you up or effect you, just keep going with a calm smirk on your face, I've been with many girls taller than myself.
>>18455907
sit her down and have a serious discussion about it. communication is key. If she agrees its something that can be worked on, and actually follows through, there you go, if not, you know what needs to be done

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>>18455918
that's some creepy shit man. try to meet her in person, or if you have mutual friends, wait a few days and then just say she popped up in the people you may know
>>18455942
stop trying to replace her. get laid, not a girlfriend, learn to be happy on your own again, you're still healing, 3 months is pretty fresh if it was long
>>18455919
there is no magic formula that will get you there bud, sorry. there is so much I could say right now, but really, if you're pining after just this one girl, and asking this, chances are you'll fuck it up, you need to learn to get good with girls in general to get "the one"

that being said, i'll tell you some guidelines anyways because fuck it may as well try, first just bullshit, really, talk about anything, like you would with anyone, don't be afraid to make sexual jokes, establish your commonalities, etc, and now im gonna get technical so try to follow, get her to invest and comply, no not monetarily necessarily, but it's a well known psychology concept that getting people to do things for you, makes them like you. if you can, try to get her talking your ear off, and like you aren't saying much. then start building on that, start with really small hoops for her to jump through, then progressively get a little bigger and a little bigger, this is like what salesman call a yes-ladder, for example. just light touches at first isn't asking much of her to accept, so she probably will, I like to touch girls' skin and comment on softness, inquire on whether they use moisturizer, then maybe go to something like handholding, a tiny little risk, but its so small she'll likely be okay w it, just laugh and say "this is so high school" then slowly start making a little bit more and a little bit more physical contact, closing proximity, go for the kiss, and you get the point. Fuck her before asking her out. Sex before making her your gf is sooo key,or she will see you as a beta ass motherfucker

>>18455739

how do I actually meet women? I am 9 months in after my ex of 2 years broke up with me. I just don't seem to meet people and when I do I chat and have a good time but never ask for phone numbers.

I hike, shoot, exercise, and work. that's my life.

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>>18455947
lol also pretty much everything this guy says is on point too, combine what he said plus mine, his is a more simple easy to understand natural approach, but mine was a bit technical and slightly more advanced so you might not be able to quite do mine yet if you can't even do things like tease, pass simple shit tests or be non needy, that's why I say it's unlikely for you to just get THE ONE without getting good with women in general first.
>>18456020
typical client is usually shy anxious type of course, and pretty much like every other instructor's training, discuss sticking points, and take them out for daygame, point out what they're doing wrong, and reinforce the positive behaviors
>>18456149
>no social life at all, never been to a pub, club, or party
obviously this is your problem man. you know this. don't even worry about women yet, GO OUT, learn to socialize. make friends, guys and girls, it's a lot easier than you think, just provide good energy, find things you have in common with people, be an altruist, give out good energy, do nice things for people, really be genuinely interested in learning about people. worry about specifically women after you've taken care of this. If you're into lifting, thats a super easy way to meet people, in the gym, ask people about their routines or form, or nutrition, etc
>>18456167
Been there man. First of all, move, obviously. Secondly, DHVing is so fucking stupid imo, DHVing automatically means your trying to qualify yourself to her. Don't do that. If you "DHV" it should be by accident, like through your physique, social proof, the way you carry yourself, talking about your passions and interests. In fact, I'd say what's much better is DLVing, telling girls i'm a gay virgin with a small dick has gotten me laid way more than trying to prove myself to girls.
Hooking is as simple as sparking an interesting convo based on commonalities, fun, jokes, stories. for small town game, go indirect, build social circles

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>>18455739
what's teh dating scene like in NY vs SF

i heard its very fast paced in NY no one settles down, but there are a ton of girls


I'm 35 just broke up with my GF

thinking about moving to NY to get better quality and more selection

in SF all the girls think they're 9s because there are SOOOOoooo many guys

>>18455739
so I know this girl from work, I've been asking her to come drink with me after work and she often says yes but we get out late at different times I want to eventually ask her out on a date without it seeming like I just want to hang out as work friends how should I ask her out?

what is with the prevalence of blonds all over 4chan lately? was this always a thing and I didn't notice until I got on this blond kick or what?

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>>18456172
I can relate mang, and nope, usually not in my experience, it's pretty much up to you to decipher what you did wrong, that's what makes game so difficult, it's pretty much trial and error, thankfully with the internet it makes things much easier
>>18456181
it's out there man, maybe look within rather than out if you're having such trouble finding people you can form deep connections with
>>18456332
I agree with this guy on screening too actually, should have mentioned that
>>18456397
a frame is basically a perspective, or a lens through which you view life. a womans frame in the scenario he spoke of is "i'm hot shit, guys chase me", you're frame should be, "i'm hot shit, girls chase me", but often guys make the mistake of trying too hard to get a girl to like them, aka seeking validation, like it will finally make them whole if they can just get this girl to prove they're not actually a piece of shit. Obviously, if you feel this way, if you are looking for validation from the girl, whos frame do you think wins? obviously, her "Im hot shit, guys chase me"
>>18456399
You don't, if you're alive and have a sex drive you keep fucking trying, i mean unless you want to live a sad pathetic life where you don't chase any goals or achievements and sit stagnant till the day you die, which if that's the case, then by all means I guess...
>>18456420
you need to learn to enjoy the process. enjoy just having conversation, a REAL two sided conversation, don't be trying to skip forward to the sex. enjoy every second you spend time with people. it sounds like the real deep rooted issue is that you don't know how to socialize in general, not just with women, but with men as well. You need to fully put your authentic self out there, share your ideas, opinions, stories, accept that some people will disagree, and thats okay, and truly enjoy talking to people. Now obviously, don't sperg out and only talk about aspie stuff, but stuff that you're interested in and is relatable

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>>18456420
also, its good to let her do a lot of the talking for part of it actually, i always try to get her talking my ear off, but the difference between me and you is I am present, I am genuinely interested and curious about her, I ask questions, i'm not just thinking, "shit shit shit how do i get to the sex"
But i also will say, for you since you're a beginner, it would definitely help you to know how to direct the conversation as you seem to know already, you don't want to take it over, again this is a two sided thing, but you do want to go over things like your passions/interests, you know what makes you, in your opinion a remotely interesting human bean, and you want to sprinkle in a bit of sexuality here and there. just keep that in mind, but still be fully present and enjoy what shes talking about, the worst thing you can do is just cut someone off on what they're talking about, because you're not even listening, and your just thinking of what you wanna talk about.
>>18456793
you're fine man, didn't lose my vcard till 18, just got lucky by some drunk sloot, wasnt able to consistently get laid till i was like 22, you have plenty of chance man, the thing about being a virgin is, you're fucking with your own head, you get all depressed and make all these self limiting beliefs, but its all bullshit, you have just as much potential to get laid as the next average guy. my advice would be, don't place all your bets on anything but going out and trying to get as many girls as you possibly can, seriously. also, look into pickup shit like RSD or Honest Signalz, a lot of it is over complicated, and dont get too caught up in trying to learn every little concept or watch every video, but go out, approach girls, and try to move things toward sex constantly, you will get rejected a fuck ton of times, it WILL be trial and error, and you have to be okay with that, the best of the best have gotten rejected more than anyone.

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>>18457124
go out to places women are at.
get phone numbers from people when you have a good time with them, build social circles, lots of people love all three of those things. You could probably find a way to meet hiking groups online or even possibly people who enjoy it at work, you could make gym partners and shit just by discussing gym stuff (obviously not trying to teach them unless you're jacked, no one likes that guy, but just discussing, ask about what they do, form, routine, nutrition, etc), same stuff with shooting basically

idk if you drink or smoke or anything, but they're both very easy ways to meet people, now i'm not saying you get drunk as shit, because you'll make a fool of yourself and thats not real confidence, but i mean if you go to a good bar (one that women actually go to, not some shithole) have a beer or two, and chat up some surrounding people, surely you will find some friendly people who won't mind talking to you.

when i moved to a new state i became a regular at a few bars, compliment girls clothes/hairstyles, chat up dudes, tell everyone im new, my story, this way im meeting a lot of people, and then seeing a good amount of them over and over like every weekend, which automatically builds your comfort and friendship with others that go regularly

it doesn't even have to be a bar though, I've also made friends a pizza restaurant from going everyday, to the point i ended up smoking lots of weed and drinking and getting lots of free pizza with a employee and even the manager

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>>18457252
Don't. Same deal I was talking about earlier regarding having sex before making her a gf. I'll dive deeper on the topic. First off, "asking a girl on a date" is something a "provider" does, rather than a "lover" type, and women WILL categorize you as one of the two, it's an evolutionary mechanism, they want to classify you. as to why thats bad, well, you *can* make a provider frame work, and you *can* have sex with her that way, but you have to look deep into the evolutionary psychology behind why they do this to really understand. Throughout history, there are the small percentage of alpha males with superior healthy genes, so, of course the women naturally want this, it means healthy offspring with good genes, HOWEVER, because these alpha males are such a small percentage of the male population, they are in HIGH demand, meaning a lot of times they will get a girl pregnant, and leave, because they have MANY options, and their evolutionary reproductive strategy is to spread their seed far and wide. This is bad for the women because back in the day pregnancy could easily mean death, and also she's now a single mother raising her child which was dangerous, in say the savannahs of africa or whatnot, so they want to be taken care of, not abandoned. So this brings us to their other option, the provider. The provider is the guy who doesn't have many options, and is clearly lower value and is therefore willing to stick around, and provide and help raise offspring. So back to modern times, you want to be seen as a lover if you want her to truly see you as the most high value, and she'll put out for you and fall in love with you and chase you, because as we all know, girls, like us, want someone a little out of their league
jesus christ that was a lot
>tl;dr don't call it a date, go out for drinks, let sex "just accidentally happen" then make her gf, convey you have a penis by creating sexual tension if you're afraid of being seen as a platonic work friend

>>18455739
28 year old failure virgin. One of the many excuses I have for not dating is my crippling anxiety over any type of physical contact. Any advice on how to deal with that?

Will a girl forgive me an 8 hour date without a kiss and proper escalation? I feel I fucked up, but I hope not.

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>>18457460
you just fucking do it. you man up and just fucking do it. the same as with talking to girls, or really anything else scary in life. you just face your fucking fear. that's really it. I used to have this anxiety too, i was terrified, then i just started touching girls, and you know what the worst response I ever got was? A simple, "uhh no" and pulling away when i tried to hold hands. Not the end of the world. slightly cringeworthy and embarassing in the moment, but you have to fail over and over to succeed in this game, much like in life

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>>18457480
possibly, but there's also a good chance not, you certainly made things harder on yourself by not going for it at the first chance, you better work fast if you want to redeem yourself, you ALWAYS want to escalate at the first opportunity as I said, they will only give you a brief window to work with. Girls will actually come to resent you for not escalating, much in the same way some guys when they see a hot girl they can't fuck, they go "fuck that stuck up bitch, i dont even want her anyways", feels a lot better to the ego than admitting they couldn't get her

but with them it's like "fuck that pussy, he couldn't even fuck me, I definitely don't want him"

>>18457510
The date went amazing, but we got high and I can blame my mistake on this.
When second date is coming I will summon my courage (even though I am a kissless virgin) and kiss her right on the street, out of a sudden, in the middle of the date.
Its just hard to do it for the first time... Like, leaning over when I never did this is kind of awkward.
Any advice on that?

>>18457498
It's also in the other direction. I really dislike being touched as well. Do I just have to force myself to not recoil automatically?

Woaha is this Corey Wayne or Alpha M on 4chan?

How to make a dating site profile good enough, so women reply to me?

>no friends
>no hobbies
>not in college, no job
>self esteem is nonexistent, hate self
How do I fix my life

>>18457555
Go get help

>>18457606
Where

>>18457555
Similar boat. Except I have hobbies and I can do most of them by myself or online.

>>18457608
Go to a psychologist

>>18457177
Not OP but NY is almost the same, however more dense than SF and we actually have more 9s than in SF. Which means there is a cute girl at literally every corner that you turn.

Which means you can fire arrows in any direction, and its bound to hit something. NY is the place for the numbers game. Pro-tip, the way NY is though, you're gonna have to stand out somehow, cute girls are talking to like 10 dudes, and some are clearly superior niggas.

>>18457628
Does that really help though
A shrink isn't going to help me make friends and acquire hobbies and suddenly feel good about myself

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>>18455739
Is a relationship with a 5year older girl something realistic? I am asking because I am 21 and she is 26, which is kind of an age where women start thinking more about serious relationships and possibly marriage. And I am afraid that I would be seen as a joke partner (and therefore she wouldnt even agree to a relationship) despite the fact that i am totally into serious relationships. .... so any idea?

Ok sorry for the bad english.

>>18455739
Any advice for ending a bf/gf relation by turning it into fwb or fuck buddies?

My face is ugly, look like a typical no chin nerd, I've been told many times I'm ugly and etc.

How can I make the best out of it? Obviously I work out, socialize and dress nice, that doesn't seem to help with women, they'd always go for my more attractive friends, even if they're more shy, less fit, and wear stained T shirts.

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>>18457514
i went over earlier in the thread how you should gradually build investment/compliance/escalation, starting with really small hoops, going to slightly bigger, then slightly bigger and so on. Or, you could just jump in, which may be best since you're so scared, but theres a higher chance of getting rejected that way. But really, it sounds like at the point you're at, you need to learn to be okay with rejection. The best of the best have been rejected lots, it's a little awkward, you'll probably feel embarassed at first, but in time it'll get to the point where you just think it's funny. Lots of times where I went for the kiss, and it's like a joke to me, and the girl initially rejected me, and i just was like lol why, and kept my calm, and tried again a few minutes later and she was fine with it
>>18457544
yes
>>18457546
idk corey, and i don't care for alpha m
>>18457552
good pictures, that present you in a "playerish" kind of stereotype or fun light, and humor
>>18457555
I answer p much the same question earlier
>>18458079
sure it's realistic if you are an attractive man, and I don't mean looks, I mean if you have your shit together, are good with women, etc. BUT chances are at that age you're still immature, and working on getting your shit together, and she may know this. But hey, always worth a shot, if it doesn't work, find another one.
>>18458588
It's most likely not gonna happen, unless you've like only been bf/gf a few days or something. Managing expectations is something you need to do from the beginning of relationships. If you want a fuck buddy, you need to let them know from the get go you're gonna be fucking other girls, almost never can you turn a serious gf into just a fuck buddy, she will not have one bit of that shit, she sees you in the monogamous box. This is the same reason many guys can not get their gfs to have threesomes, you need to put yourself in the player box from the very beginning, and game her into it, not ask

>>18458757
Wow. You're really shitty dating coach, and your advice is basic as fuck.

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>>18458698
fix what you can my friend, don't worry about the rest. get a nice haircut, take care of your skin, make sure you smell good, etc.
i'm not gonna lie, looks definitely matter, BUT not to the extent you think, they're moreso better for getting your foot in the door, buying you time to show off your personality than anything, a lot of relatively good looking guys have no success with women because they don't know how to use that extended window.
So, if you can use the other ways to attract women, believe me, there are lots of other ways than just looks, then you will be solid.
Do you think if you arrived in a lambo, walked in the club with other girls on your arm, nice clothes, you were friends with all the most important high status successful people in the building, you told awesome, hilarious stories where everyone is hanging off every word you say, that girls wouldn't be attracted? of fucking course they would, I'm not saying you need any of these things specifically, but just a few examples of the many ways to attract women

>>18458778
Alright man, thanks.

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>>18458769
lol which bit are you unimpressed by?
yeah it is pretty basic, getting women is not something that needs to be over complicated with fucktons of theories, I just do and teach the proven ways, 80/20 rule says logic dictates you're better off doing a few things and getting really good at them
You're not mad I didn't give you a magic pill are you? if i'm giving you a short response it's because i'm not wasting that much time and energy, what do you expect these are free posts on 4chan, or if you're just unhappy with the answer I gave, then suck it up buttercup it's the truth whether you like it or not

>>18457514
As someone who used to have a lot of anxiety about it and has since developed a lot of dating experience in adulthood, I'm firmly of the belief that if there is ANY question in your mind as to whether "Is now the right time? Should I go for it?" then it's not the right time. When the moment is REALLY right, there is zero question in your mind; you know you want her lips on yours and can read in every single inch of her body language that she unequivocally wants you to kiss her.

And as you grow more comfortable with dating that right moment appears more and more often with less and less active effort on your part. Seriously, you just go into it with a much more casual air that lends itself to more fun, relaxed dates and much stronger physical chemistry as a result. It's really weird to me how this has happened over the years. I used to put so much energy into trying to create the right time to kiss a girl and now it just presents itself all the time. I was on a first date this weekend where we were having a really good time just chatting and laughing over beers and burgers. We went for ice cream afterwards, she's eating her ice cream and we're both laughing about how damn good it tastes, she stops and smiles and tells me that she's having "a REALLY good time," I smile back and tell her that "the feeling is very mutual," we hold each other's gaze for a second, I glance down at her lips and jokingly ask if she's "one of those girls that doesn't kiss on a first date," she laughs and tells me she's not, I lean in and we kiss. Just that simple.

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>>18455739
When I talk to a girl I never know how to ask for her number or out on a date or anything like that. I'm generally pretty shy but I fit in okay at social events. For example, there's a qt at my church, and recently I met the cute girl that works with my friend. What do

>>18455739
Am retard how do fuck?

>>18458823
> if there is ANY question in your mind as to whether "Is now the right time? Should I go for it?" then it's not the right time

Fucking this, SO much. It really shouldn't be a guessing game or a matter of trial and error.

>>18458757
Thanks. I think it might be my maturity, compared to other even older man, that attracted her.

Just got dumped. Don't get me wrong, I'm not feeling like shit, I'm actually feeling pretty good, just a little sad and "empty". It was the right decision to stop the relationship, so I'm okay with it.

Now I wanna get back in the game, I wanna meet new girls, and move on.
Where do I start ?

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>>18458823
I see where you're coming from, and sometimes it plays out like that, but there usually is no "right moment", you create the right moment, too many guys will get caught up in waiting for "the right moment" and it will never appear
>>18458834
find commonalities, most people like nature, food, coffee, drinks, etc, ask her to it, sometimes you can make good guesses at their interests based on the type of girl they are; if it's a party girl type, drinks, or if its a more conserved shy girl, museum
>>18458885
go out, bars/clubs/densly populated areas during the day, approach women, get rejcected, get numbers, take girls home, etc, read earlier in the thread

Teacher here

Got a girl in my class that i want to get to know better but i don't know how to ask for her number while not making it weird or awkward later.

I'm 28 shes 29, is it recommended that you go after your students? If so how would you do it?

>>18458934
>and it will never appear

Then there probably isn't all that much of a connection and you shouldn't be with her. That's half the battle of "Should I kiss her?!" right there: being comfortable with potentially not kissing her. Too many people go about it with notions of when they should have kissed by and stuff like that. It's the impetus for pretty much all the awkward stories of forced attempts at kissing gone wrong.

You will be so much better off and so much more likely to actually kiss if you grant yourself the peace of mind to chill the fuck out and know that "maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't."

>>18458934
I'm fine talking to them about all sorts of interests and such, but I always choke up when it comes down to actually asking them for their number or for coffee. Is this just a confidence issue on my end? Any tips to help get over it?

I'm sure this has been asked, and I'm sure this is a stupid question but is there any real way to tell if a girl is interested? I'm fucking shit at reading people in general

>>18457289
It's not exactly that I can't stop thinking about fucking the girl I'm talking to. I'm not listening more so because I'm nervous. If she can see how nervous I am on my face, if she thinks what I'm saying is stupid. I'm always trying to think of a witty reply and often fail to and miss half of what the other person was saying. I dread coming off as boring and, there's that problem again, I come off as boring or have little to say. A big problem with social anxiety I think is that it clouds your mind and you can't process information correctly.

>Now obviously, don't sperg out and only talk about aspie stuff, but stuff that you're interested in and is relatable
My interests pretty much overlap with any normie. I'm just not interested in some standard normie stuff (social media probably the best example). The aspie start comes in when I know a lot of specific facts about movies, music, or sports from reading wikipedia articles. I find that guys usually find this interesting but girls usually have a "why do you know that" reaction. Anyway, I digress. I hope I'm not literally an aspie and just a loner that reads too much.

>>18455739
Fell in love with a girl thats 21yo and she likes to go out clubbing and drinks alot and she gets alot of attention. i cant/dont wanna have to be out watching her all the time should i give her a chance or just forget her. Im normally a pump and dump kinda guy but shes got me good

>>18455739
How to get over a cheating ex fast?

>>18459127
date 3 other women at the same time, you'll quickly forget about her when you are fucking 3 girls and being respected for you. Heck, open up a tinder if you have to.

>>18459174
Problem is I'm a virgin, no vices

>>18458811
It's the fact that your answer was "It won't work, you should've been more of a player first" when it's already working. It's that I realized I'm better than you at this, and I'm a fucking programmer.

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>>18459008
is it recommended? nah, BUT chances are you'd probably be fine imo, girls love their teachers as I'm sure you know, and if you're practically the same age, chances are even if she turns you down it wouldn't be a big deal to her and you could just act like nothing happened, lol just throw out very subtle
low risk hints at liking her, and maybe say you're up to help her review the content in a private session over food or coffee or something like that, that's what i'd do anyway
>>18459015
I mean I agree with you partially, definitely as you progress in game it does seem moreso to just come up much more naturally, and you kind of can afford to wait a little and feel it out and it'll help to build sexual tension, but I think it's bad advice for a noob to tell them to wait for the right moment, I almost feel having awkward forced kisses is a necessary step to learn to calibrate in the same sense that it's almost necessary for most guys to get rejected a lot approaching and going for numbers in general, to really learn to steer the conversation and whatnot. I guess the caveat to my advice would be obviously don't try to force it too hard, she'll let you know when she's ready, which is what anon is saying, by giving subtle hints like touching you a lot, being close, giving you "anime eyes" etc
>>18459045
yeah it sounds like it to me, really not much you can do besides just man up and do it. do not be afraid of rejection, it's just going to happen with a lot of girls when you're as inexperienced as you are, purely because you choke, in fact, for a real hardcase noobie at first i recommend going in and fully expecting to get rejected. There's a psychology concept called systematic desensitization, that says when your brain has experienced something so many times, it no longer is afraid of it. So, the more you get rejected, the more perfectly okay you are with it, which the girls see and like because you don't need it to work

>>18455739

Sex with ex y/n?
>>>18460882

>>18455739
I have fallen for a complete stranger and I don't know a thing about her. How do I talk to her, she seems like a quiet person.

>>18455739
I broke up with my girlfriend of a few solid years (about 4. little splits here & there but always returned to one another). Split again a few months ago (her mother was very sick. it put a strain on the relationship. i caved to the pressure and effectively abandoned her. Basically, I fucked up and realize my error now) We had frequently discussed marriage and our future. She's currently dating someone else though I've heard it's not too serious and she still misses me. Few days ago, I told her I was ready to move in/propose/get married/have children with her. She's not having it. Can you offer any advice as to how I can get her back? I truly would step up this time if given the chance.

>>18460915
Holy shit dude. Not OP but what gave you the idea that coming on with marriage and kids while she is seeing someone else was a good thing to do? Fix yourself and let her see you have actually changed instead of talking about changes. Make her fall in love with you again and go from there.

>>18460921
Alright. Appreciate.

>>18460921
>Holy shit dude. Not OP but what gave you the idea that coming on with marriage and kids while she is seeing someone else was a good thing to do?
Actually, more on this: for a long time, she wanted those things with me. I figured, if I just lay it all on the line and tell her I'm ready (i truly believe I am), she'd maybe give me another chance on the spot. She hasn't. I feel though, based on things she's said and from others around her, she doesn't want to completely close the door, though. I'm just afraid I might be up against the clock a little. I know she's in a hurry to get married/kids and stuff and even though she's only been dating this other guy for about 2 months, he may be eager as well. But i don't know, I mean, maybe it's stupid to think that if he proposed so quickly, she'd accept. Agh.

>>18455739
>Professional Dating Coach here, I teach guys how to get laid and find girlfriends

So, you're a PIMP?

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>>18459053
yeah there are lots of ways, they're just super subtle, things like playing with hair, flicking hair, strong eye contact, looking at you a lot, touching you for any reason, finding an excuse to come up and talk to you, RSD max actually posted a good video on this few days ago
>>18459099
Sounds like you need to desensitize yourself to socialization in general then, practice holding conversations whenever you can, and actually enjoying talking to them, being interested in what they have to say. This came to me more easily after I lived in the country in isolation for 6 months, after that I appreciated conversation and not being so lonely so much more, your hobbies don't matter man, I promise theres a cute girl out there that likes the same stuff, I watch anime with models breh
>>18459104
yikes man, that's a decision only you can make, that's VERY RISKY, 21 y.o, alcohol, chaotic environments, a bunch of horny player pimp dudes like myself, *most* girls would probably cheat under these circumstances in my opinion, because i'm of the belief most women will cheat, especially ones going to clubs, in the same way most guys with a lot of options will, thats just my personal belief based off of evolutionary psych though. She definitely could be being perfectly loyal. But even if she is, are you able to live with the constant fear and lack of trust for long?
>>18459450
Well good for you bud, I said it most likely wouldn't, not that it's impossible, it's just a fact that a lot of the time it isn't likely to work with most women, believe me, lots of men try this stuff I hear about it all the time, and the fact that I don't know any of your circumstances at all and you're on 4chan makes me guess its most likely not going to. But yeah it's definitely possible to make it happen, if you have her hooked hard enough most girls would be happy to be one option out of a few for a high status dude, or she might just want to hoe around yet isnt done with you, gj tho

>>18456971

what steps should i take to become a talkative motherfucker? I often feel like whatever comes out of my mouth is dumb or childish

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>>18460910
obviously not advisable, it's only prolonging and drawing out the pain and inevitable
>>18460911
just lol, speak words out of your mouth
no but really if she's quiet you'll haveto cary the burden of the conversation till she opens up, you usually have to be pretty persistent with these types of girls till they start opening up
>>18460915
what the other guy said is pretty much spot on, If you're ever to get her back, you must accept your current situation, and truly work on yourself, and let her see it, but when i say accept your situation, i mean accept she may be gone forever, and that you may need to begin moving on as well. Just focus on yourself and keep the offer on the table for her
>>18460941
lold at the "saying i dont need you to get you to need me" that ones actually somewhat true
>>18460961
kek wasn't exactly thinking of those implications when i typed that, I suppose so I guess

>>18455739


Getting laid is easy.

>Go to bar
>Look halfway decent atleast a 6/10
>Get drunk
>Start flirting with drunk chicks
>Invite one over
>Start making out
>Stick your hands down her pants

Its all down hill from there.

I have no trouble getting girls, but one in particular won't text me back in a timely manner despite expressing romantic interest in me. I have 3 or 4 girls I can text at any given moment to fuck, but this one in particular is the one I want. Other than moving on, what's your advice?

Often when I smile at women they smile back at me and vise versa, does this mean these women have some interest or is it just politeness? If it is just politeness how do you tell when it's an actual interest?

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>>18460984
talk to people

I literally probably was one of the most introverted people throughout school, some people literally thought I was mute
I began going to parties a little bit thanks to my friend group by the end of high school, but was still pretty much a sperg with the bare minimum of social skills who got lucky to even have that, then I moved to a new state, knew no one, got jobs that revolve around customer service, and then began literally practicing socializing like a skill. Going out of my way to hold a conversation with every single uber driver, all of my coworkers consistently, approaching lots of girls during the day time, going out at night to bars/clubs making all kinds of friends with just about everyone and anyone who was willing to give me the time, and now here I am a social butterfly apparently who doesn't know how to shut up at times, and girls think im joking when I say I'm shy. Just literally practice holding conversations all the time, whenever possible.

As for the last bit, lower your standards of what comes out of your mouth. Most guys you see at the clubs, drunken idiots, pulling girls, are talking like fucking idiots, saying the first thing that comes to mind, they just don't have a filter. I want you to lower your filter, don't be afraid to say dumb shit, everyone does.

>>18460998
tricky question, there's different smiles in different contexts anon. it could, or it could mean absolutely nothing. at the very least you two aren't on bad terms and there's hope. does that answer your question?

>>18455739
Why does Venus spin counter clockwise?

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>>18460995
are you treating this one any differently than the others? if so, try treating her like you would them

a lot of the times guys will have a few options, but the one they really want they just can't seem to get, because they try harder for them

otherwise just keep being persistent till she either makes a decision on whether or not to hang out with you or you get tired, whatever comes first (Just don't over pursue obviously, you should only put in a little more effort than her when you're really pushing, but even then that looks needy, ideally you only put in as much as her, or less)
>>18460998
Could be either, you never know till you go talk to them, in which case they will let you know if they're interested by other very subtle means i spoke about before

>>18461039
>>18461047
Well from what I know genuine smile is also with the eyes which often these women do, their eyes go along with their smile with a minority of them just using their mouths and not the rest of their face.

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>>18455739

What do you think of this book

>>18461047
>are you treating this one any differently than the others?
Yes, I make it clear to the others that they're beneath me and treat them like toys. Her I actually like, so I treat decently.

quick story
>two girls talk to me at bar, go hang out after bar, nothing happens
>see them at bar next week, being flirty, go to their dorm with both of them
>hook up with one, she wants to fuck but because her roommate is in the room we can't
>also hook up with roommate (3 of us in the same bed), also don't fuck
>second girl no longer talks to me nor does she provide any attention on social media (views, likes, etc)
>first girl still does, was also initially more interested in her anyways

Question is how do I go about talking to the first girl when we get back up to school while avoiding the potential dissatisfaction I caused by hooking up with both?

General advice for dates, face to face pick ups and online pick ups?

I really have no game whatsoever. I'm an asshole by nature(cynical, impatient, blunt) and my developed personas to counter this are really only suitable for getting jobs.

Basically, I really find coming across as genuinely nice difficult. I also get stage fright and dates really do strike me as being up on a stage.

P.s. never dated before, only one night stands and high school hookups.

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>>18461092
if anything, it would probably turn her on and make her jealous that you hooked up with her roommate, now obviously don't try to brag about it, but don't hide it either. If confronted, just be real, tell her it happened but that you actually like her more. it's called preselection, and learning to make women jealous was one of the first things I learned in game that is key as fuck. I've gotten a girl jealous and turned the entire situation around from me fucking it up in almost every conceivable way possible beforehand. Women LOVE to compete for men

>>18461157
So it's a sort of blessing in disguise then?

Should I try to hit her up and talk a bit over text now in the summer or wait until we're back at school to pick up again?
It has been just about a month since school's ended.

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>>18461160
Yes, in fact she probably already knows about it and thats why she's still hitting you over the social network. preselection is a huge key one of the only scientifically proven methods of attraction, and one of the main things I do in my game, if you can show girls that other girls have already "pre-selected" you, it makes everything soooo much easier, that's why guys often report having so much more attention from women when they have a girlfriend, or are hanging out with other girls, something you've probably experienced yourself.

Here's a tip for easy pre selection guys, snapchat, or even insta and fb now since they have the same shit, are key as fuck, snap yourself to your story with some of your girlfriends regularly, watch the amount of girls who watch your story regularly skyrocket. The reason this is so good is because even though you're basically showing off, if you just send it to your story instead of any one girl, it's almost like your accidentally showing people, like because it was their choice to watch your story, so it's an honest signal

As for the last part it's worth a shot definitely if she still talks to you and hits you on the social media, it is an indicator of interest, act on it, the longer you wait the less likely you'll make things happen most likely, though don't push too hard to make it happen, it probably could when you get back to school

>>18455746
Yes there are people who also earn 7 figures from playing video games on youtube all day.

Crazy world huh?

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>>18457177
>what's teh dating scene like in NY
Weird when you try and set-up a date with someone and they tell you they're booked for the next 3 weeks, and that they work from 7 am - 11 pm on the weekdays.

>>18461206
Damn.

I knew I needed more female friends.

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As someone who doesn't drink often due to a family history of alcoholism and has no interest in going to places like bars or clubs, I have literally no idea where to go to meet single women. I dropped out of school, and now work IT so it's very unlikely I'll meet someone through my job.

I've tried online dating, but it's not for me. Somehow my real life shyness and awkwardness is amplified like 10x when translated into text message form with strangers, when I have far more time to get all up in my own head and over analyze literally every little thing that's said in chats.

Any tips? Especially for someone who doesn't live in a big city where there are lots of opportunities for Meet Ups and the like.

>>18461157
Great picture.

>>18455739
How do I casually express disinterest in a bar setting.

I'm incapable of having a real relationship and one-night stands don't interest me, but I sing in a band that plays bars and parties and I'm always getting approached

>>18457007
A girl making fun of you for being short? That's a fucking boner killer

What kind of stuff should I talk about with a girl when messaging them for online dating?

Okcupid, PoF, whatever.

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>>18461252
push for the day 2, internet meetup, or close harder, they have free time at some point, but dick is so low value and abundant for hot girls they like to play busier than they are, lots of girls I know will flake on lots of guys and sit at home and watch netflix unless you're compelling, stand out, and push hard for the close while also being not too invested, ideally she also visibly sees you don't give a fuck about losing her, while also balancing that with not being a complete fucking idiot and being real
>>18461742
female friends are great, you really don't have to go after every girl immediately if YOU friendzone THEM, rather than the other way around. You can meet their friends, they'll be wings that make you look cooler, etc, and you can a lot of the time fuck them if you're the one that put her in the friendzone
>>18462035
honestly, i've been there it sucks, logistics makes a huge difference, in your case really the best things you can do is move of course, but since thats usually not an option right away, your best bet for while you're there is 1) getting your online and text game down, it can be difficult stuff at first, maybe practice on girls far away that you dont want as much first, but I basically just outlined the strategy above and can go into more detail if you have specific questions 2) you could go to clubs/bars sober, plenty of people do that, certain restaurants, and 3) Just wherever you're at during the day like at the store, gym, or wherever you go, and in a small town building up your social circle is highly advised as opposed to cold approaches since you don't have many options in the area, but I still recommend you do both, just keep that in mind you don't want to get rejected immediately by all the women in your small town, whereas being just slightly more indirect and fucking girls through friend groups is much more beneficial

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>>18462108
unfortunately when you're in your position the fact that you are disinterested is only making them chase you harder i'm sure, all you can really do if you're serious about not getting with anyone, is just not move things forward, don't reciprocate their teasing or flirting, don't invest in talking to them at all past being polite
>>18462130
by all means if you that makes you not want the girl, walk away at that point, but personally i'm not offended by it because I'm not insecure, if she's hot you're damn right im gonna hang in there, then I'll joke about how short I am while I'm fucking her
>>18462154
I spoke a little about this in my last post, those ideas are a huge part of it, and first of all you should ideally constantly be moving things forward to the meet up, ABC, Always Be Closing, secondly, you are screening, you almost treat it like you're interviewing them in a way to see if they have any of the same interests/hobbies or have a compatible personality, but dont just do this, it's boring alone, 3) tell jokes be funny and witty about the fact that you're moving things forward, but 4) you want to be a balanced mix of not giving a fuck, being funny and keeping it just real enough that you still seem like a normal dude not just some guy trying to stand out and be edgy. you want to invest pretty much as little as possible without going to an extreme, ideally she's more invested a little more. If you have any more specific questions on text game i can go more in depth

I'm 19, was overweight for like 3 years (ages 15-18) Now I'm in shape and I notice that girls started looking at me but I dont have the balls to start talking to them. Im a virgin but I had a girlfriend when I was 12-13 of course nothing serious but experience after all. Was depressed while was overweight, now I feel like I'm on the road, no depression and hopes for life ! Dont get me wrong Im social I can talk to people but not the way that I would show any interest to any girl cause im afraid of getting rejected, HELP

>>18462608
>by all means if you that makes (...)

I actually think I need to learn that. Learn to get offended. Fuck principles and pride, I need to learn how to always being able to use a situation to gain joy for myself.

>>18455903
Your genes are weak, your bloodline will not survive the winter.

>>18457176
>talk to people in the gym about form and nutrition

Do you autists actually do this?

>>18457381
Being a regular at a place is an awesome way to meet people.

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I'm a kissless handholdless virgin.
I recently tried tinder and okcupid.
I would say I'm average in terms of looks.
Tinder was a complete failure because I only got 4 matches after 3 months.
On okcupid I get like 5-6 views a week and I talked to some girls and they actually replied back but all of them just stop responding after a short time.

What the fuck am I supposed to do? My ironic humor I got from 4chan helps me for the first few messages but then they start talking about personal shit and I get nowhere because I'm a boring loser and frankly I don't really care about their superifical normie lives.
It doesn't help that my best match only matches 75% with me.

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>>18455739
Hey Dating pro,

I'm having real trouble with this girl I used to date. Long story short, I approached her on the street and fell in love before we even fooled around, which was once. Often she's cold-hearted to me because she's cold-hearted to herself. She says she's in love with this other guy and that hurt because I have a crush on her. How do I make her want me more? We already both feel at ease when we're alone together. Tl, dr how do I develop this at least into a fwb? I'm not sure if just being platonic friends is good for my heart :(

>>18460993
>go to club
>look decent enough to get the sporadic compliment
>drunk enough to actually be able to approach people without getting too nervous
>approach girl
>she runs away/her friends pull her away from you
>try again on someone else
>same thing happens
>go home disappointed
>feel depressed for the following 4 days or so

>do this every week for the last 2 years

Only ever go 7 mediocre lays out of the whole thing

Any advice to get a partner back who still loves you and says you are their soulmate?

Do you have any advice for somebody who suffers from depression on whether I should pursue an ldr or not? I'm working at a camp for the summer and I've met a girl here who I could see myself being happy with, however at the end of the summer we return to TX and FL, so an ldr is inevitable