Is there a way for me to not want a wife and kids but not be

>>18440287
The thing about kids & a wife is that for 65% of the population they suck. Now maybe you find the right wife who doesn't divorce you and have well behaved that don't hate you, or say Fuck it mgtow

>>18440287
I'm 38 and I just heard that term for the first time in this thread. I'm also never married, no kids, and no desire for either at this point. Let me tell you how your future will be.

Once you get into your 30's, most of your friends will be married and having kids. You'll rarely see them, and if you do, you'll probably be the third wheel. Most people won't label you an MGTOW or what the fuck ever, but you'll always wonder if they think you're asexual or gay or something. You'll eventually feel awkward about being the only single guy your age. Any girl you date will secretly try to figure out what hidden thing is wrong with you because you're older and you've never been married and society is bullshit.

If you're lucky, you'll find a girl in her 20s to date, stay in shape, and make decent money. That way, at least you have your awesome life to keep you somewhat happy, while your friends have gotten fat and are dealing with whiny kids and bills.

The sad thing is, even if you don't want marriage or kids or any of that, you'll occasionally feel like you're missing out. Life's a cruel joke.

Source: me

>>18440392

This gives me hope, in a weird way. I turn 31 in August. I make great money and still have my health for the most part, although I suppose maybe I should focus on it a little more if what you say is right. But yeah, dating a chick casually seems like the best thing, and knowing that no one is going to take 50% of my income one day is great.

Yeah, I am worried about regret. I just went on a trip with my dad this weekend for Father's Day, and he was proud of me, and it was a fun experience, the kind that made me think "maybe one day I'd want a kid," but then I thought about my friend's dad who spent Father's Day bailing his 28 year old out of jail.

>>18440417
Definitely focus on staying in shape. The younger you look, the less weird it gets, and the bigger your dating pool is. Just look at someone like Charlie Sheen or Hugh Hefner. No one gives them shit about not being married.

As long as you always have some girl around, life is manageable, and the regret is fleeting. On the other hand, being alone in your 30s is a constant punch in the nuts everywhere you go. The older you get, the more it hurts, and the more society tries to remind you that you're weird for it.

>>18440287
Dont talk about it all the time like you obviously do. You're like gay people who act flamboyantly gay and ask everyone they meet if gay is ok and then when they find someone who's uncomfortable they go on a rant about how homophobia still exists or some bullshit. Just don't talk about it that much and do whatever the fuck you want.

Dude, sounds like you have shitty friends/social circle Most girls I know wouldn't give a fuck.

>>18440364
Me 50 in shape decent career. My current gf 26 hot fit and tons of fun in bed. I've never been married and don't regret it.

>>18440517
How the fuck did you get a hot 26 year old gf with that age difference? Asking for a friend.

>>18440287
What are you actually asking for advice about?

You only asked one question, and it was involving an uncountable amount of people we will never meet.

Or did you treat this forum as your personal diary?

Not trying to be aggressive, I just don't understand what's happenning...

Lol OP nobody gives a fuck about you so stop justifying yourself

The word is called "bachelor"...

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This guy here nailed this topic the other night.
Image related.
Live your own life op.

>>18440730
>I ask out about 2 women a year and if I get rejected I don't really give a shit
Yeah except for the fact that he has no sex either
I think he is so afraid of rejection he only risks it 2 times a year, otherwise why would he deny himself sexual pleasure?

>>18440287
move to a big city like ny or la, people get it there.

>>18440733
Protip, you can get sexual pleasure without having sex.
Masturbation is a thing.

If anything, if it is only sexual release you seek, why WOULDN'T you just masturbate instead of wasting time and resources on trying to woo a woman just for a quick lay?

>>18440617
Craigslist - in my add I listed exactly what I wanted. Unbelievable but it worked.

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Just hold onto your seat. You will start to see more and more of these meme children pop up and they will be nightmarish little shits. If you start to see kids that act properly and aren't raised by shit parents who let them watch spiderman butt injection videos it will be a happy surprise too but the ratio will be like 20:1

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>fucking stacey
>not fucking stacey's mom
>the ultimate domination
Not gonna make it.

>>18440287
Why do you give a shit? Gain some self-respect and stop giving a shit about what people label you as. If a "friend" is giving you shit for deciding not to have a wife and kids, he is not a true friend.

>>18440455
>Just look at someone like Charlie Sheen or Hugh Hefner. No one gives them shit about not being married.
Lol wtf. I'm on your side ideologically but those are terrible examples
>hef is married for one thing
>sheen is the horrific image of a bachelor that people have in mind when they call you a MGTOW- shit relationship with his kids, nobody loves him, has AIDS

>>18440999
Fucking the mom is hardcore business. My dream, though.

>>18440750
Because its nothing compared to the real thing?
Try masturbating and fucking without condoms on several drugs, it amplifies the difference a lot. When I masturbate I feel like a weird knee-jerk robot, who is ruled by his pleasure demand. When I have sex with another person, I feel complete and just right.
After you have experienced this you will never come back to porn and only come to masturbation in very dark times.

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>>18441056
>Try masturbating and fucking without condoms on several drugs, it amplifies the difference a lot
Why on earth would I subject myself to such degeneracy?

Why do I want to fuck the mom, more than the daughter?

>I don't want to make a nuclear family

You're in the majority now, bitch
You're product of a huge psyop created to level developed countries into what the 3rd world looks like

congratulations

>>18440750
Masterbation doesn't compare to the real thing.

>>18440287

I just tell people I haven't met the right woman yet.

Well, I tell that to women.

To men I just say that it isn't for me, guys like that seem miserable.
I work in a manual labour job, high risk, hazard pay, get treated like shit. So naturally girls don't want this equality, so I barely have to put up with them.
Most of the men, mostly older ones, tell me I'm smart and wish they'd made the same choices.

Better to die alone than get Brendan Fraiser'd.

>>18440287
MILF

Shoulda just ignored them and don't care about the MGOTOW label. Shouldn't bug you this much, it is YOUR life.

On a lighter note I feel ya, my sister gets all up in my personal biz.

>>18442334

OP here, amazed this is still up.

But yeah, this is kind of my thing. There's too many shitty examples of what's happened to older guys around me - even the ones who are married and haven't had anything "bad" happen to them are just sick of being stuck with the same person in the same house for the past 20 years or whatever.

I see too many lecherous and mean women glued to their man beating him over the head for not doing shit their way.

I want to fuck those two, soo soo soooooo god damn bad.

>>18440287

not really. people rarely know what MGTOW even fucking means, but yeah you will get a lot of lectures.

you'll get that no matter what you do in life so just do your own shit and if people give you shit either fling your shit at them or dont give a shit.