I need advice on a high school sweetheart.

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But things changed when we started to hang out more in person. We would hang out at my house, and watch movies, and cuddle. And laugh, and she'd lay across my legs or lay her head on my lap. Sometimes Afterwards she'd send me a cheeky sexy picture of her, which meant the world to me. Then We went to go see a play together, and she couldn't keep her hands off me. I had my arm around her in our chairs, and she would lean in and look up at me intently. And afterwards when we were talking to the cast, she was constantly grabbing my arm to put around her. Now I went home and my head was in the clouds. I was the happiest I think I've ever been. And then the next day she said she said she was sorry, and she was just nervous and clingy, and that it didn't mean anything. And that she doesnt like me, and she only sent me the sexy photos to "cheer me up". Now that made me crazy. Everything she would say to me would contradict each other. She would make excuses and lie, and be so bipolar with her statements that I never knew what was real and what was her trying to cover her ass. Nothing was set in stone. I'm in love with this woman and she's toying with me. Now this continued to happen for a couple months before I finally told her I couldn't handle it anymore. And we stopped talking. Recently I got in a fight with said friend from earlier, and we also stopped talking, for a completely different reason. And the girl went out and said it was her fault, which I yelled at her for.

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And then it escalated to her finally telling me we're never going to happen, that no more excuses, and that it's "Not in the cards". But continued to tell me she used to like me, and make even more excuses for he way she acted. Which again, is not set in stone because of her constant changing mind. Which she admitted later in the texts. Now I was sad at first for two days. Crying my eyes out. And then I got angry. Real angry. And told her that we're done talking, for good. And now I don't know what to do. Apparently her and my friend are talking again, which is bullshit, because for two years he didn't nothing but insult her but I digress. I love her, but I feel as if she is hung up on this stupid puppy love she had in sophomore year. And she's hung up on herself. I don't know whether to wait around for her to come to her senses or just completely abandon her. Which will be hard, because just thinking of her with anyone else makes me sick to my stomach. And she says she cares about me, yet does all of these awful things. I'm going to be uploading the texts between us, everything blacked out is personal information and names.

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Just realized I said her name in the post. Her name is Chelsea.

>>18390465
Have you ever done anything physical?

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>>18390480
Other than borderline spooning, no.

>>18390477
you just want to doxx her cause you're a retarded spiteful gamma cunt.

please man the fuck up and get a life.

>>18390483
Thanks for the advice.

Honestly I'd say you should just leave it. You onviously care a lot but I don't think it's worth it. Usually ainwouldntry tonsiggest something make it work out but honestly from an outside perspective it seems a bit shit. If she really doesn't feel anything then just leave it and try to move on, difficult, I know that, but just seems too late now in my opinion.

But that's just my thoughts on it. I have had a somewhat similar experience at the same age and all I can say is it isn't worth letting it eat you up.

But maybe someone else might be able suggest something more positive. Hope you're alright mate

>>18390485
Wow wtf happened to my typing there. Phone posting at its finest. Sorry lol

>>18390474
It's 99% of the time the man's job to initiate physical things. If you want to have a physical relationship with her, don't try and talk her into it, make a move. Grab her hand, put your arm around her shoulder, keep escalating up until a kiss or something. It's the man's responsibility to take the lead.

Also on a side note, there's also a chance she's manipulating you for the attention, I thought there were several red flags indicating that, although there were a couple signs she was interested.

Bottom line is to make a move the next time you've got an opportunity to do so. If she rejects you then she's not interested and if she doesn't then she is. Either way you'll have your answer.

But don't try and talk her into a relationship, make a physical move.

>>18390482
>borderline

is that like dryhumping for autists?

>>18390465
What you're doing is the right thing
just block her out of your life
she's toying with you because she likes the idea of you wanting her but she doesnt actually want to be with you. Just try turn some of that passion into hate and you'll stop thinking of her after a week. Just please dont look back, she's playing a game and you lost it a long time ago.

>>18390488
Hey thanks man. You're right, but it just doesn't feel right ya know? I really appreciate it. That's why I've really been trying to let it go, but it's so hard. And don't worry I know what you're saying.

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>>18390465
Ugh, god... I kniw milinnials get shit on for being faggots with no resiliency, but it's fucking true. The easier society gets, the softer younger generations are. It's been tested over and over again in many cultures for thousands of years

Op.... LISTEN TO ME.

WRITE HER OFF. STOP RESPONDING AND FUCKING MOVE THE FUCK ON. She is just another human out of billions. The inside of her body stinks just as much as anyones. The only beautiful version of her is the imaginary one in your head -- NOT THE REAL HER.

Delete her number.
Stop responding.
Go talk to other people.

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sorry mate. this is not a tough situation for anybody but you. Im not gonna be like the rest of the people on this board and tell you to stop being a bitch, but i will say this. don't think that this girl is everything when she thinks you are worthless. OP has better things to worry about, such as college grades and other relationships. If she wants to go in a loop with your other friend so be it, move on, they were both scum of the earth anyway. Easier said than done. If it were in fact easy everyone would do it. Still there are other girls out there and still you dont even know what love is. Think of it like this, would you take a bullet for her? raise kids with her? go through every hard ship imagianable just to be with her? if any of those were a no, then you don't love her and need to move on because she doesn't love you. Sorry mate, feelsbadman.-Gottfried L.

>>18390494
No problem mate. Good luck whatever you decide to do :)

You were being used, emotionally, by this girl for 2 years??? My only question is how did you let it go on that long?? You are young, but you're obviously a smart kid, and I can tell you the usual the pain goes away etc etc. but really you have to make sure you never put yourself in this situation again. It's hard to learn life lessons this way but that's all I can really say.

I have absolutely been in your situation before, btw, and when it gets sexual as well it gets a lot harder to "forget" and move on ha ha. And it was also a redhead. Hmm...

Moral of the story: avoid hot gingers

Halfway through the second post and all I can say OP is that you're a faggy dumbass highschooler but the good news is that you will learn from this and hopefully know better in the future when you grow up some more.

Also you will hopefully learn to summarize your shit, you waffle on like a preteen girl.

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>>18390492 >>18390495 >>18390498
>>18390575

It's so weird how the people of /adv/ can be so incredibly insulting, and so inspiring at the same time. You're all bunch of cunts, but you are completely 100% correct. This stupid fucking woman has been using me for two years, and I've been doing nothing but acting like a whiny little pussy whiped bitch the entire time. All of my love for this woman, has turned to spite and hatred in a span of four hours. I want to say thank you to all of you nihilistic cunts. I'd say I love you, but I'm too afraid you're gonna manipulate me emotionally.

>>18390544
>You were being used, emotionally, by this girl for 2 years???
>You were letting yourself being used
ftfy

OP, you're a kid, so I don't expect you to know these things already. Please forgive me if this makes you end up feeling bad, but I urge you to consider the following:

Ever heard the expression nice guys finish last? When I was a teenager I though this was meant to encourage me to be a nice guy; to always consider, and by extension, assume women's emotions and ulterior interests. As I crew older, I vane to understand that this kind of mentality is counter-productive, and in fact rather creepy. Also, it's in disservice to yourself.

One moment you tell her you want to forget about it, and leave it be. The next moment you continue to probe and confess your inner conflict. One moment you tell her you're not angry, just sad and confused. The next you tell her you're angry, and asserting your decision to cut contact. As soon as she throws you a biscuit, you take another leap in a back and forth pattern - just ad you're accusing her for doing in the past.
Fast of the matter is that everything you experience as something she has done to you, is actually something you have done period. Not towards anyone, but simply in and of themselves. You have done this. You have actively had the emotions, you have actively done the spooning, you have written the walls of texts that only make you want to write more, because you enjoy the feeling it gives you that she gets to take part of the wonderful world of your private thoughts. But this is not how you attract women.

It may seem harsh, but you should come to an understanding that women should not be expected to care about your thoughts and emotions. They are interested in your actions and words, so choose them more wisely and look after your outcome-oriented, yet independent, intentions.

In other words, stop being so wishy-washy and start talking about and as someone attractive, exciting, fun and pleasant.

Cont.

>>18391170
Cont'd

Nice guys finish last, but the world is in need of good men who look after themselves and others, and who know their own value, and it shouldn't matter to them when, how or if they ever finish

Don't tell her how you feel. Fix how you feel and tell her something that doesn't make her want to run away. Act the way you want to be perceived, and increase your chances.

When she comes up to you in the halls, you should already have set yourself apart from the guy she knows - the one with puppy eyes and sadness - and be able to laugh about how hopelessly immature you used to be in your attempts to treat your relationship as anything other than stupid and rushed teenage drama. Joke, tease, politely walk away, head up and shoulders down, without any needs or wishes, and you'll instantly be a thousandfold more attractive to her.

Hey man,

Sounds like you've got a pure heart, which is incredible. Keep your head up man, you deserve a girl that will appreciate you for who you are and will be.

Start spending that time you spent with her on yourself. Learn that instrument, pick up that old hobby, start a new hobby. Do something for you bro, you deserve to spend that time on yourself. Naturally you will meet a lovely lady who will put a smile on your face because you met her doing what you love. I believe in you bro, go forth and conquer.

>>18391170
The autocorrect is stronk itt. Sorry for that.

Will answer any questions

>>18390668
you're so funny. which makes me wonder why you are so hung up on the ginger cunt and not wooing some other girl. the only way to get away from participating in the drama is to quit.

>>18390465
I stopped reading when you said boyfriend. I swear I thought that was from the fucking girl. How can a man write something like that. This is genuinely embarrassing, and amongst the most emasculated things I've seen.

>>18391195
This does make me feel bad, but it's only because it's true. You're completely right. I've been acting like a stupid fucking emotional wreck towards her, and it's palpable. You have me wrapped up in a nutshell right there, and I need to change it. Thank you. The only thing is I said some harsh things and completely cut ties, so I don't think she's going to be back in the picture any day soon, sadly.

>>18391195
Now if I were to try again with her in the future, how would I go about scrounging myself out of this hole I've dug for myself?

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>>18391170
>>18390668
you only got used if you let yourself get used

you can be best friends with a woman and not be used by her, infact you can use the experience you gain with her on other woman, but the moment you gain interest you lose.

seriously nothing makes a woman madder than being friendzoned because they are so used to people like OP

You sound like a good kid, OP. You're just misguided. You should forget about her and find someone worth your time. If you're struggling to make things work, then it wasn't meant to be, especially prior to being official.

Take it easy on yourself and enjoy your highschool years with some good friends. Try not to focus on women, and never let them bother you. I have quite a bit to say, but I'll spare you all the trouble of reading it. Good luck, OP.

>>18391294
First of all, the other guys itt are right about moving on to someone better. That said, this is also the way to increase your chances.

The key word here is future. Take your time with letting go.

Take Guy A
>hasn't been laid in seven months, despite constantly hitting on women
>every chance he gets, he gets his hopes up
>faps to porn after every failed attempt, feeling even worse
>every rejection takes longer to recover from
>gets more and more nervous around women as time goes by
>grows resentful towards women

Now take Guy B
>hasn't been laid in seven months, despite a few failed attempts
>doesn't beat himself up over it, and learns to appreciate just how adorable young women are at their shit tests and unaccountability
>counts his gains in other areas
>makes conscious decision not to objectify women - inb4 muh feminism
>because objectification of others creates a prison for himself
>talks to people of all genders/ages/attractiveness, because he wants to be a social guy, thus learns to look for good qualities in women, and how to appreciate attention when appropriate

Guy A will more likely put pussy on a pedestal and obtain oneitis as soon as there's a slight window open with any female who's within his dating pool.
Guy B will more likely be able to talk to women within and above his range, and succeed because her feminine powers got no hold on him.

It's easier to get perspective on these matters, when your mantras are in good condition: When you talk to a young, attractive lady, be aware your own very real choice in whether or not she has the power to make you masturbate or cry, and the obviousness of your own control should put a smile on your face. She's just flesh and blood, everything else, past or present, is just a story we tell ourselves.

Appear as if you've moved on, and believe it yourself.

Stop responded to her text. block her right now. ignore her in the lunchroom or whatever the fuck you meet. install tinder and actually fuck a redhead this time.