Go see a specialist they said, you will get better they LIED...

Godspeed, Anon.

You've popped your programming cap. Manchurian candidate style mind control. You're the false flag Trump will use to declare Marshall Law and suspend habeus corpus in order to round up all the Muslims. This plan has been in the works for some time. The CIA should be real proud.

>>18383953
consider psychedelic mushrooms and/or LSD with directed therapy
you can rewire your brain to avoid the compulsive thought processes.
Both drugs increase connectivity between areas of the brain that normally don't communicate, and research has shown this is a way to break the repetitive firing of neurons associated with anxiety, depression and obsessive thoughts.

>>18384009
This is the worst possible advice you could give a mentally unstable person

>>18384013
>No, u
If you're not going to put in any effort, why should I?

>>18383953
I've got OCD, depression and social anxiety and never had the urge to kill anybody. The Ned's make you tired. Get on your goddamn medication and tell the psychiatrist what's going on. You may need to change them several times before figuring out what works. I did. Don't go killing anyone or they'll throw your ass in jail for life and you'll really have an excuse to be miserable. Not to mention fucking up an innocent families life.

>>18384009
OP here. Antidepressants also sounded oh so wonderfully. They did nothing to me psychologically, only fucked me up physically and I'm too skinny and weak to carry that many negative effects.

>>18384022
Ned is a fucking asshole.

>>18384022
>Not to mention fucking up an innocent families life.
Implying this isn't tempting to me.

Also you say you have the same exact ilnesses, it doesn't mean anything. They are on spectrums from 1-10 and it all depends on how bad case one has. I am at 10 with OCD, 9 with depression and 9,5 with social phobia. This is all thanks to years of bullying and traumatic events when I was a kid and my brain was basically developing the most. (psychologically concerned).

Well, anon, the role of a psychologist is not to magically solve your problem, but to tell you what your problems are and how to deal with them. Sadly many of them fail at the latter and would rather stick a few labels on you and give you some drugs than try to find the root causes of your issue and a way of getting over them.

Also antidepresants don't fix any issues, they're only supposed to make you feel better. They treat the symptoms, not the cause. So if they actually make you feel worse stop taking them.

>>18384033
You asked for advice, I gave you mine. There are different degrees of everything and you may have it worse than me. What I do know is it's a constant struggle. I've changed meds at least 5 or 6 times and dosages more than I can count. You either fight to feel better or succumb to the diseased. I hate feeling depressed and the OCD drives me crazy. Is it totally gone? No but I am way better and generally enjoying life. So you can bitch me out. I know how it is because when you're depressed you see no upside. Get to the fucking doctor and be honest with them. Change doctors if you have to.

>>18384024
Antidepressants are designed for you to take them all the time and keep paying for them

its a fucking scam and statically less than 50% of people are even affected.

What they really are is emotional suppressants.. the pills are there to help you ignore you problems not face them.

>>18384048
This is wrong on so many leves what you said there, so everyone justp lease ignore that post.

I've found in my search for a better life the Meds didn't much. It's hope in a pill without much substance.
A good strict diet and exercise regiment did more for me than medication could ever do.Not discounting meds. But for me I've been able to find peace without them.

Also meditation and yoga.

There's a reason you see all these yogis and deep mediators at peace. Because that's what it brings to your life.

Never discount what your body can do for itself. Pills never worked for me. Therapy got my foot in the door. I kicked my own ass into shape and that's how I squared my mind away.

I used to think about suicide every single day almost all day. Attempted it twice. Was a very angry man. Could never conrol my anger and hurt people because of it. I hated myself.

SO I changed. I put in the work and stopped blaming my biology and my family and friends and put the onus on me to make these changes.

But now I read, I exercise, I go for long walks outside, I meditate and I LEARN. The more I LEARN about what's afflicted the more I take control and feel like I have power.

I'd say therapy brought me back from the brink to get me to where I am now.

YOU GOTTA DO YOU OP. You can't rely on a pill or a doctor to save you.

YOU must put in the effort and see it that way. Or else life will swallow you up.


Get help. This isn't normal. If your current therapist isnt working go somewhere else. You might have found a Quack. There are a lot out there.

Look into nutrition and how it effects your brain.

Look into meditation. I suggest getting the App 10% happier. It has some really good guided meditations that spell it all out in a simple way that made me really believe I could do it. And I have. For the past year I've never been this content with life.

I'm not happy or cured. I've just taken the steps to not be so shity.

>>18384013
no it's not
is backed by research

also directed therapy is important and th doses are relatively low compared to recreational users.

>>18384024
The psychedelic route isn't something you would do regularity, not like antidepressants

it is intense, and provides emotional release in an effort to change your pattern of thinking. Having a professional with you and taking appropriate doses is important. The idea is you face issues, and you change neural pathways, you don't take the drugs all the time.

this being said, its not magic, and takes time and effort and lots of thought and reflection.

>>18384048
Not a 100% true. I was not abused or bullied and had a relatively normal childhood. I was told my problems were due to a chemical imbalance and were not situational. Both medication and cognitive therapy were needed.

>>18384057

I believe they can help. But I see so many people think of them as this panecea. This cure all for what ails you.

It's true that they have the power to heal. But there is always two sides to every coin.

Therapy with the use minimizes the risk of a bad trip ruining your progress.

I tried for years to cure myself with mushrooms and LSD. It was only like putting a bandaid on a festering wound.

I'd recommend their use but it MUST be done along side a therapist and an established course of action toward healing your mind.

I fucking love mushrooms haha.

But yeah. It's just like with anti-depressents.

So many people go in thinking they are a cure. But then they don;t see the results they were hoping for and now the situations is even more dire.

Idk. There is no quick fix.

Hard work and diligence is the only path to salvation.

ARE YOU READY TO PUT IN THE WORK?

If you're not... You won't get better.

>>18384053
no this post was spot on

psychology helps you identify the route of the problem
and antidepressants only address symptoms (and poorly) and are generally ineffective, pretty much just suppressing emotion

>>18384072
Ok you've found a quack.

GO to someone else. Holy shit! This chemical imballance hypothosis needs to die.


You won't get better if you don't realize the SITUATION IS part of the problem. Fuck these kinds of people who try to tell you otherwise.

They are just selling you on a pill.

Drop any therapist that has this model. Find someone who does therapy without meds first.

>>18384073
This exactly

there is no quick fix
and sometimes not even a complete solution.

>>18384077
That wasn't me (OP) in that comment (>>18384072). I WAS bullied.

The very fact that you've come out to say this makes me feel you've got some fight left in you OP.

Don't let these thoughts control you. You're probably a really good person. Or a decent one. Or hell maybe you're a cruel son of a bitch. But you're still human and we all poses the ability to change how we see the world.

Look into it. LEARN. The power of learning and being better than you were yesterday and NOTICING THAT!!! Acknologing your accomplishements and seeing the hard work pay off its the reward. IS the happieness. There is no "happiness" without struggle and there is no struggle without happiness.

Budhism helped me.

Im not a Buhdist but I believe in a lot of their practice.

There is hope dude.

If I can change from an abusive, lazy, rageful, depressed, neurotic, fuckwod you can too.

It's all a matter of effort and mindset


Get the book Mindset by Carol Dweck and the book The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson.

Two books that changed my life and now I view it.

I believe everyone has the ablity to change. :) And thats beautiful.

>>18384072
>>18384053
My bad, I said something that's misleading. You should stop taking antidepressants if they don't make you better, but only after 2 months. They don't always show their effects instantly.

Look, we don't yet understand what the causes of mental disorders are. We don't even know how antidepressants work, exactly.

One thing we know is that people with depression tend to have low activity in some areas of the brain. So this is what antidepressants are supposed to treat. There are many kinds of antidepressants, but most of them are reuptake inhibitors. They disrupt the process through which neurotransmitters are reabsorbed back into nerve cells in the brain after they are released to send messages between nerve cells. This means that they increase the number of neurotransmitters and strengthen the circuits inside your brain that regulate mood, leading to better emotional states. That's the theory, at least.

In practice things are a lot more complicated. First of all antidepressants work only slightly better than placebo. Studies put the difference at around 20%, which is statistically, but not clinically significant. Also people who use these drugs tend to regulate their levels of neurotransmitters, but they don't begin to feel better for several weeks or months. And one more thing, many people who experienced improvements after treatment with antidepressants the effects often fade off after the course of medication ends, resulting in complete relapse.

Here's an interesting statistic: in a 2003 study (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12606176) 41% of the people who got their antidepressants switched with placebo relapsed after showing improvements during the treatment. But 18% of the people who showed improvements during treatment relapsed without having their medication switched with placebo.

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>>18384379
All of this suggests that antidepressants have an obvious positive impact (if you disregard the side effects, which are many and quite severe in some cases) for people with depression and anxiety, but they do not treat the causes. Saying that depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in your brain is not exactly true. Yes, if you have severe depression you most likely have a chemical imbalance in your brain, but then again any kind of mental disorder is related to some chemical imbalance in your brain and that is not the primary cause. Depression has been linked to many other things, both genetic and environmental and it's considered to be a combination of many factors in most cases. We also don't know the extent to which this chemical imbalance manifests, we only know a part of it and as we've seen treating that part yields long-term improvement in only a few cases. Fixing issues in your environment, habits and mentality has had a much higher chance of success than just using medication - that's why psychologists exist and you don't just go to a doctor to get drugs prescribed.

The problem is that psychology is not an exact science, it's hard to pinpoint the causes of mental disorders. It's mostly guesswork and that's how it's going to be until we develop a perfect understanding of the brain. Same goes for antidepressants, really.

So, OP, if you're still here this is what you should take from all of this
>we don't perfectly understand how the brain, depression and antidepressants work
>drugs can help, but they're not bound to. They usually only help with the symptoms and people tend to relapse after medication stops
>If you don't show any improvements in 2 months after starting treatment with antidepressants you should stop it.
>the most effective way to fight depression is trying to understand its causes and effects and make changes in your habits, environments and mentality that will negate or diminish them.