ITT: Ask The Opposite Gendr Anything

Women, do you ever go to the party wanting to fuck somebody, determined to score with the first acceptably attractive guy who looks your way?

If you're a thicc girl how do I get close enough to use you for a while?

>>18381070
Afraid my answer is fairly useless but seeing how no one has replied so far - I really like the idea in my head when I'm feeling thirsty as fuck, but I'm pretty sure I'd never do it. Simply because it's difficult for a woman to be very assertive and empowering about your sexuality because everything is culturally stacked against you. So being bold about your needs can sort of feel like making jokes in a setting where you can only have fun as long as you are 100% sure that those people are laughing because of you and not at you. As soon as I feel like wanting sex makes me less in the guy's eyes my arousal is gone - and that happens a whole fucking lot. I want to have sex with someone who sees it as a mutual thing, as having fun with each other. That's hard to cling to when you can tell that to him, you're letting yourself be used.

Also for the record I have friends who have had one night stands with complete strangers and knew beforehand that they'd like to get laid. But how he approached them (whether or not he made the initial move) was still ultimately what made them go for it.

>>18381090
>it's difficult for a woman to be very assertive and empowering about your sexuality

kek
is it really that important

>>18381073

Flatter my body. Give me a unique compliment while maintaining eye contact. Tell me I'm beautiful, and not fat, and not to listen to what everyone else says. Then I'm yours for the taking, anon.

>>18381098

Actually, this will pretty much work on any woman. Thicc, skinny, white, black, latina, asian, trap. Anyone really. Soo, you're welcome anon.

>>18381096
Well, in order to happily go against the normal tropes, I guess yeah. Obviously there are girls who give zero fucks and are immune to feeling used or feeling like a slut, but it's not the majority for sure.

>>18381098
"Excuse me, miss, you are beautiful and not fat like everyone else says...will you be mine?" :DDD

Is it possible for the two attractive people of opposite sex to maintain a platonic relationship?

>>18381103
I like those girls :)

>>18381104

Fuck yeah, baby. That's the ticket ;)

>>18381107
Yes. It's actually easier for them because they usually get their sexual needs met and they aren't desperate to fuck each other.

>>18381107
Yes, some people just aren't meant to be together.
Always in love with different people.

>>18381107
A friendship, yeah, absolutely.

The whole spiel where you are best friends forever and essentially boyfriend and girlfriend without physical stuff? No.

One of the big reasons for the whole friendship between men and women can't work thing is that people so often try to "befriend" a guy or girl only when they actually want to date them (or did date them) and saw it fail. You have to actually want to be actual friends, not accept it as a consolation prize.

>>18381090
>I want to have sex with someone who sees it as a mutual thing, as having fun with each other.
I don't get why wouldn't a guy consider it a mutual thing though.
You both want it, right?

>>18381113
>>18381115
>>18381117

Thanks, m8, good to know

>>18381109
That's good, but most men don't, hence why they're rare.

If you want to find a woman like this look into your local kink or polyamory type scenes. You are much more likely to find sexual free spirits there than in your random club or bar.

>>18381110
so, how thicc are you

>>18381070
A lot of normies do this. They go to parties to get drunken silly and if they manage to secure P or D, it is added bonus. There is your reason why you dont go looking for wife to this places. People there arent build for monogamy and sex is just another fun thing for them.

And no, they dont go intentionally to get sex, that would be too degenerate even for them. They go there to "have fun and enjoy life". What does it matter that dudes next morning tweet nudes of sluts from last night? Dont think too hard about it.

Some clubs are even designed so you cant hear a thing there, only load music. So you get pussy there simply by exchanging looks and dancing like drunken retard.

T. Guy who followed his normie friends to such places. Dont go there, it is not worth it at all.

>>18381107
Yes. And in time they will have platonic sex.

>>18381119
For the same reason that "I fucked you" can be used as a burn towards a woman and not towards a man. It's just not seen as the same thing culturally.

>>18381123

38, 26, 40.. but for some reason, boys are scared and girls get madd lel. Still waiting for a man to conquer me.

Women
Why you cannot handle being called a whore I thought you were stronk

>>18381098
what if I just impersonate Aku

>>18381131
Kim?

>>18381133

Will laugh bc Aku is a total goof. But you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar... and I'm pretty fucking fly tbqh.

>>18381129
>>18381128
where are you guys from?

>>18381137

I've been called Kim yes. but it grosses me the fuck out lol.

>>18381122
Oook. Thanks.

>>18381138
>you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
https://xkcd.com/357/
>why do you lie to me

>>18381140
what's your height and weight?

>>18381139
The Netherlands. Actually pretty liberal sexually.

>>18381131
Try hitting on boys yourself. Chat them up, smile a lot and if they wont ask you for your phone number, just give it to them. Even if they dont call back, it doesnt matter, you at least tried.

>still tried
You either too fat or too sexy so boys are scared to make a move on you. Also it depends if you ever are awaiable. If you are never alone in public setting, you may stay forever alone. Try online dating.

>>18381139
Does it matter? CZE
Why are you asking?

>>18381146

5'2 and 130~135lbs. I'm healthy and thicc lel but can you really handle it babe? why don't you practice a bit more b4 coming to me ;)

>>18381138
I dont understand what you mean

>>18381149

No, no. Don't make me laugh. I never make the first move, honey. I'm looking for a real man not some little boy who needs me to do their hw k?

>>18381153
That's a very nice size

>>18381158
>I never make the first move, honey. I'm looking for a real man not some little boy who needs me to do their work
why put in the effort for someone that doesnt want to put in any themselves

>>18381090
thanks, that was a nice read. lol
what do you study?

>>18381173
It doesn't have a specific term in English but think social work with the academic element and more philosophical influence. Essentially trained to be an emotional caretaker/source of support though I will probably wind up in education.

>>18381166

Thanks bb, it's hard being me. Clothes don't fit right, girls giv the stink eye and boys are left shaking and scared. I swear I ain't gonna bite. Ain't my fault mama blessed me with this bod.

>>18381158
Let us know how did it work after few years. Also the numbers of
>real man
are decreasing thanks to school system, overprotective parents, lack of siblings, swjs culture, single mother syndrome, estrogen in water, estrogen like chemicals in plastic, lack of mandatory army service and easy access of porn (2D > 3D).

Good luck thicc femanon.

>>18381181

Don't worry. I know I will find him. Thanks anon ;)

>>18381148
>>18381149
>Why are you asking?
I was just thinking, that maybe you're from usa and things are different there

well, maybe I just know different people than you, because I never even heard of burning a woman by telling her one slept with her.

And also my gf of over one year admitted she just wanted to fuck anybody and I was the first who happened to care about her.
Fantastic person, I'd let go of my finger to be with her again

Anyway, thanks for the perspective

>>18381180
I'm just gonna go jerk off now :)
see ya

I want an honest opinion from both girls and boys: I know it may sound silly though.

Is 22 considered old? (i'm a grill)

>>18381199
yeah, totally. You must be completely rusty by now. No good barbecue possible on a rusty grill. Still good for planting flowers in, though

>>18381199
No way

>>18381199
I think the threshold for "old" is probably 25

>>18381199

>Is 22 considered old?
It really depends on how you look after a certain point. Age is just a number, babe

>>18381192
To be fair I think I'm extra aware of it because I've seen such an unending torrent of talk on this online since I was sixteen or so. Slut shaming isn't openly accepted here whatsoever, but covertly guys still want to date a girl who hasn't fucked around. Or if one of my male friends had issues with an ex the "doesn't matter, you got to fuck her" attitude was rampant - and these were normal guys with fairly normal attitudes towards women and sexual stuff, not people who would even like to come here. But still it was considered a one up to have "gotten with" someone.

If someone flirts with me and makes me feel like he enjoys that I'm a sexual being, that's hot as fuck. But more often it feels like they're hoping to push your buttons so that you cave in already and that's just not sexy whatsoever.

>>18381199
Old for what. Its not really old i mean im the same age.

>>18381199
Depends on who you ask. To a seventeen year old guy? Yeah, perhaps. Looking at the full scope of life? fuck, no.

Think of it like this. In thirty years you will be over fifty. How do you think you would feel to look back on being twenty two - and feeling old? Don't fuck future you over. Enjoy your elastic skin and perfect knees, not being tied up in marriage/kids presumably, and still getting away with stuff that would seem dysfunctional in ten years' time.

>>18381199
depends on how old YOU are. when i was 10, i thought my mom was fucking old (30). when i was 20, i thought, meh, 30 is still young, 40 is old. now that i'm approaching 30, i think 60 is old. imm sure than when i'm 60, i'll think 80 is old. it's subjective.

>>18381178
oh my that's a mouthful to read :)

do you have a diary to write down your random thoughts?

I have some interesting thoughts when I'm inspired (pls no laugh at me) and I recently realized that if I write them down and re-read them later it's like reading another helpful person's guide.
I also realized how much of these thoughts are actually connected to the same idea. One would think I have potential if not for laziness.

>>18381211
I see.
I just find it strange that people would care so much. Or even that you seem to assume anybody would know about two couple fucking. In my group of friends, it's being kept rather secret. After all, this way the sex may continue without ostracisms

>>18381199
>i'm a grill)
22 yo is my mom's age when she had me.
God. wtf am I doing with my life

>>18381065
I put this in the other thread but its about to die.

Guy here. In the past few parties I've been to, a girl has put their arm over my shoulder and chilled like that for a bit. What am I expected to do in response to this? Normally I just do the same thing back to them and eventually, we go our separate ways. Is this an indication that they want to fuck or what?

>>18381240

Not having babies, so maybe that's a good thing?

>>18381199
22 is the age you slowly stop being dumb horny edgy teenager and start looking for husbando / waifu. Unless you are still in college. Then you mature only once you graduate / drop out and find your 1st job.
You have only 8 years left to push out healthy babies, better start with it soon.

Now lets date :-)

>>18381192
>burning a woman
No, normies dont do slut shaming. Boys just brags about scored pussy and girls are trying to keep nonslut image, so they keep quiet.

The fact they go to these places to find casual sex doesnt mean we automatically slut shame them. And that is what is /pol/ and /r9k/ triggered by. They are scared virgins and the sole idea that girls have to just exist in club in order to get D from random average drunktard is triggering them.

>with her again
That is what you get by dating horny teen girls. Or immature ones. Or slutty ones. As i told, some people arent build for monogamy at all. They get bored with same person and simply move on and left you with broken hearth.

>>18381240
Maybe you live in era with overpopulation, broken economics and much more information on how to be responsible adult. Life has changed significally in few decades.

Remember until 28 your babies are autism free and it is easy to get pregnant. Plan accordingly. If in doubt, look at niggers and gypsies. They have much more babies with much less money.

>>18381257

>22 is the age you slowly stop being dumb horny edgy teenager and start looking for husbando / waifu.
Really? this fucking early anon?

>>18381232
Haha yeah, it's a pain in the ass trying to quickly get the point across of what you're actually taught there as well. But I enjoy it a lot.

I used to do it all the time. It can absolutely be very helpful, writing is the most efficient way to get a grasp on what is actually going on inside of you. Think of how you will always forget dreams unless you write them down, the very act of verbalizing your thoughts changes them from being elusive and fleeting to something concrete you can look back on any time. It is also used in various forms of therapy (not just narrative) as a crutch to force people to "touch base" and check in with their side of things and how they experience life. Especially nowadays with endless entertainment and technological distractions, it is easier than ever for people to bleed into others and what they do on a day to day basis and sort of lose sight of themselves.

Personally most of the practical benefit came for me from reading how much I was panicking about things that never turned out to be an actual issue, how excited I was for stuff that was a let down, how the real good and bad things caught me by surprise. Really helped to put everyday stress into perspective. Also realizing in hindsight was a rigid and angsty little bitch I used to be made me understand much better why certain friendships never worked out and I think helped me gain a perspective on myself as I am now, too.

Most people have a very limited number of themes that really appeal to their deepest inspiration or interest. This is true whether looking at authors or philosophers, doesn't matter. Everyone has a certain structure and gravitates towards the same things in different shapes/forms. And yes these are patterns you can often only see when you take a step back. Sounds like you might be onto something!

>>18381257
>>18381268
I'm dumb and horny at 26, it's fun

>>18381257
>That is what you get
not really. We had some serous reasons. But whatever, it doesn't really matter

>>18381268
In my case i stopped being super dumb around 24, but i was always dumb kid. I still consider anybody below 21 dumb teenager.
>inb4 you are still dumb
True, but at least i am desperately trying to not be now.

>>18381272
I think you may not be so dumb as you think when you are willing to admit such thing.
As the horny part goes, if you keep yourself fit, keep some muscles (can you do 20 pushups?) and stress free, you can be horny until 50 easily (unless you are girl, then it is totally random).

>>18381277
Either share your love story so we can read it and get more clever and possibly prevent future mistakes or dont bother giving me (You) :-D

Keep it tldr please. What did go wrong?

Guys, do you want that a girl approaches you first?
And if yes, why?

>>18381291
Yes if she's hot. Mainly ego thing.
But the best I could get from hot chicks were smiles and my fellow friends' interrogation "do you know her? come on man, dude why is she smiling at you bruh I'd hit that etc etc"

>>18381291
its a welcome surprise

>>18381291
yes
because i have done most of the approaching throughout the course of my years that i have been dating/fucking/whatever. you know how you feel when someone that you find attractive approaches you? its the same for me. its nice to feel wanted.and heres a tip- when you do land a guy, be the one to initiate sex regularly. i love that shit, and im sure many other dudes do as well

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one for the girls
how do you even approach a girl in public
I always felt weird about just going up to a girl as a complete stranger. I feel weird when strangers walk up to me to talk, so I assume its weird for the girl

>>18381327

Just act normal and say hi, how are you? Or ask for the time. Casual is the best approach.

>>18381288
>love story
there's not much to write about, really. I mistreated her for a long time, she hated me because of some of my actions I did thinking it will make her happier.
Then MDMA won her over. love of a man cannot compete with love concentrated in a pill,so I lost.

nowadays she's sewing her life together like a real pro, takes no drugs and all.
Still, she has some serious issues left and I'm waiting patiently for her to recover.
I mean - she's a soulmate. I never met anybody thinking the way she does.

>>18381271
About writing, I can't stop writing my own narrative for every single nice thing I read or watch, from fantasy novels to math books to tvshows. Do you have a diagnosis for this?

>Most people have a very limited number of themes that really appeal to their deepest inspiration or interest

Yes. I think my main aspirations don't work well with reality or fit together. That's why I'm having difficulties catching up with some of my friends (career wise). It's true they are brilliant, but I believe I can match them or some better version of me could.

>>18381344
still, just walking up to a stranger asking how are they seems weird

>>18381327
It's weird for some people but that depends on their personality, level of experience and what the cultural norms are. Either way it will have more to do with them and what they think of as normal than with what they think of you. Either people enjoy small talk with strangers, or they don't.

As for how you approach, that's not important. You ask a plausible question or make an observation and work from there. You don't need to impress her. She will talk to you when she feels like talking, it doesn't have a lot to do with what you actually said at that point as long as it isn't incredibly uncomfortable.

What isn't important is finding the perfect girl to approach or the perfect time or the opening liner. What's important is knowing how to read her cues and back off when she's not interested, vs going for it when she is. People don't like to openly reject others, in real life if she isn't into it you'll be able to tell because she doesn't make eye contact (or only extremely briefly), doesn't smile, doesn't ask questions, gives you one word answers etc. That's when you tell her "cool, have a nice day". If she does do these things you see where things go.

And for the record, don't let anyone tell you this isn't a thing. I live in a country where small talk with strangers is not common at all, yet I still get men asking me what I'm reading and so on - not crazily often, but it happens. The way I see it, if I'm out in public anyone can approach me for anything. They just have to be ready to deal with my potentially negative response.

Also, realize a huge part of her response has to do with how she feels. Your actions don't take place in a vacuum so no point in endlessly analyzing single rejections. Patterns, at most.

Help anons I can't handle the pain right now. Why doesn't he like me when I'm good looking, funny, smart, kind and modest to boot?
It hurts so much.

>>18381361
offer him the pus yet? :)

>>18381361

Aw babe, he ain't worth it if he can't see you for the lovely person as you are. Don't worry. It's his loss. You'll heal, move on, and find someone who will treasure you. It's not okay now but it will be okay.

<3

>>18381361
he's probably autistic and asking for advice how to stop being a robot so he can fuck you in those threads

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>>18381381
I wouldnt be surprised, its how I got with my last ex

>>18381381
>>18381388

lolol. v nice, gotta love the honesty gents.

>>18381361
>I'm good looking, funny, smart, kind and modest
lol that's not very good advertisement.

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>>18381361
>I'm good looking, funny, smart, kind
>and modest

>>18381350
It's not my job to diagnose anyone, there's other professionals for that. If you were a client of mine I would set out to discover whether this is something that enriches your life or something that distracts you from what you actually want to get out of it. And if you enjoy it, is this the optimal form for you or is it creativity bubbling to the surface that you would enjoy more if you could create something entirely for yourself? If it is detrimental to your well-being, is that because it's a form of escapism because you can get lost in your own narratives in a way that still transcends the material someone else made? Stuff like that. Obviously hopefully with more context than just a few lines to see things in perspective. I do agree with the common rule of thumb in psychology that something is mostly a problem when either the person themselves or (most of) their social environment experiences it as problematic. People should be allowed to have quirks and private habits that others would not understand without it being labeled as problematic right away.

Do you talk to them about this stuff? If they are brilliant then there should be potential to get new energy from sparring with them. Successful friends are mostly good when you can get into the mindset to benefit from their personal qualities and not get stuck in a loop comparing yourself.

when people say someone is being flirty, what do they mean?

for a bit of context I was told to my surprise that I am being flirty with girls at work (I'm in a managerial position so I don't think this is good at all) but when I asked the person to be more specific he just shrugged and said "you know, just flirty I guess, no biggie". to my mind I'm just being cheerful and a bit playful, but where is the line here? It's not my intention to be acting like this around subordinates, it's inappropriate and I want to stop but I don't even know what I'm doing

>>18381447
impossible to tell
could you describe, in detail, a conversation you had with this guy?

>>18381291
yes
because its fun to change it up sometimes

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Answer me, RIGHT NOW, how do I get a girlfriend like this?

>>18381447
There is no objective line. There are many cultures (like in France, Italy, Greece etc) where flirting is a completely normal part of everyday interaction among strangers of all walks of life. Flirting just means charming someone a little. It doesn't have to be verbal foreplay or anything sexually charged honestly. Being playful to someone you don't know is often already seen as flirting, yeah. You're also a guy so the regular behavior is more "stoic", if you were a woman it would probably not stand out if you did the same things.

Either way, you can't let things like this dictate your life. As a woman men will sometimes accuse you of flirting/leading them on if you as much as look at them. If people are explicitly saying that you are acting unprofessional, or a (potential) girlfriend is uncomfortable, sure, take a long hard look at how you treat people and whether you stand by that. But I wouldn't worry based on what you describe here. Yeah someone might not like it but that doesn't mean you did anything inherently wrong. If you make a joke there will also be people who enjoy it and people who think it's corny or offensive.

>>18381470

Lots and lots and lots and lots of money.

>>18381470
I want to fuck those titties so bad.

>>18381470
ugh cowtits, they will hang by her ankles by the time she's 40

>>18381470
why would you want that girl?
her tits are nice but those nails, that hair and those eyelashes scream vapid and uninteresting

...you live in the UK dont you?

>>18381470
it's another day on /adv/.
Some normie posted a terrible=looking, cheap-porn grade dirl, which will earn him no less than ten replies from guys soaking their carpets with saliva and cum from looking at it

/adv/, I don't understand you

>>18381486
Hate to break it to you but small tits get saggy, too. Especially if she has kids.

Kind of want to talk with my gf about how our day was, but I've hardly done anything at all. Slept a bit, ate a bit, played some vidya (which she hates)

What do I talk about? For some reason, I honestly have no idea what to say.

>>18381498
You don't just have to list what you did, you can talk about something you came across online, that you dreamt about her, an idea you had today for the near future, whatever.

>>18381408
>People should be allowed to have quirks and private habits that others would not understand without it being labeled as problematic right away

I see. This is actually the first time I tell anyone about the narratives I wrote. I don't think the habit is detrimental to my life, but it's definitely a form of escapism. And I really doubt what I wrote is creative, it is a combination (or more like superposition if you know waves) of fragmented influences from different sources. Which means I can't remember which idea I got from where (lol). The narratives for the math books are definitely just personal views of the topics, with some occasional vulgarity towards the author or the topic itself expressing my frustration.

>Do you talk to them about this stuff
about what? about me considering them my rivals? lol no
about me admiring their talents? nope. Also I doubt they care.

>If they are brilliant then there should be potential to get new energy from sparring with them

Oh I do spar with them, every time we have class or discussion together.
There are three guys. One of them was basically everything I wanted to be. His path is very similar to mine. We are students of the same professor, so we have the same style, same influence, in the so called mathematical genealogy. And honestly, watching him writing down his solution and engaging in discussion with our teacher, I realize how large the gap between us is. It's sad. It is relieved partially by the fact that there is little doubt in any person in that class that he is the best.
The other two are just prodigies (I'm talking Olympians level). Younger, smarter, unknown potential.

Also, they never talk to each other, like complete strangers, but whenever it is about a difficult problem that only them could solve, they talk as if they are long lost friends. It is ridiculous to watch. I feel like an outsider to their world.

>>18381470
she looks familiar...

I have girls that I could be with, but the personality isn't right. I want a girl that likes to joke around, doesn't take things too seriously, and is like a lad that is pretty. Girls like this obviously exist, yeah? I'm not doing a goof by waiting for her to show up?

Ok guys! Hair down or in a ponytail?

>>18381508
Try to ask yourself what it does for you. Does it help you process or internalize things you saw that interest you? Does it entertain you, relax you?
Or is it a way to not face that you would like life to be different or do different things with this associative potential?

For the record, it's entirely possible that you simply don't know this (yet), hindsight is 20/20. Quick checks are stuff like - do you feel better after doing it than before doing it, does it make you more or less likely to get started on something that needs to be done afterwards. Or try to quit for a while and see if that has a positive or negative effect.

It doesn't sound alarming to me in any way, though. Especially if you keep making up new things and are not very emotionally invested in a single narrative.

I meant about the ideas that you talk about and cannot really see coming together.

Okay, they indeed sound very intelligent and talented. But is this really all that you want from life? It has a "flashy" aspect if someone is awe inspiringly good at something. But in everyday life, if that same person doesn't have the emotional skills to maintain healthy relationships (to name an easy example), it is doubtful whether it makes them live the life they would've been happiest with, or reach their full potential for personal growth (because people will put up with shit they otherwise wouldn't if you have a rare ability). Basically I think all people should strive towards becoming the best person they can overall be. Maybe your talent is not to excel in math but to use your math skills and the way you learned to think to be an influence on another subject altogether.

There is always someone younger and smart. Someone younger and smarter than your prodigy friends are, as well. It kind of sounds to me like you are suffering from a skewed perspective being around these people so much. Read up on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-fish%E2%80%93little-pond_effect if you would.

>>18381548
Right now you are focusing on a single isolated element in order to compare yourself to these guys. But the world will judge you on much more than that and you will probably want to get more out of life and out of yourself as well.

I'm not saying any of this to try to discredit that it's a very challenging position to be in.

>>18381542
pics or answer meaningless

>>18381542
>>18381560
pretty much this, depends on hair length and the girl

>>18381542
seeing as you can go from one to the other in 5 seconds, i dont see how its important

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for girls
body pics for tinder yes or no. Started lifting quite a while back but was never happy with where I was even though my friends say im buff and all that. After they found out I used tinder they asked why I dont take a picture of my body to get more matches.
Should I, I dont really feel like im at the point where I want to be with my body

>>18381548
>>18381550
I see your perspective. Nice analysis about the side effect of being gifted.

On an irrelevant note (since you don't know these guys, especially the two younger guys), observing what they do outside of class. No, they don't have any emotional/social/relationship related issues, as in, not to the best of my knowledge, and I'm not bad at speculating. If you meet them at a bar you'd think you are talking to a suave pianist/artist of sorts, and you would probably swoon :)

>Maybe your talent is not to excel in math but to use your math skills and the way you learned to think to be an influence on another subject altogether.

oh boy, I will have to face this eventually, don't I


>the world will judge you on much more than that and you will probably want to get more out of life and out of yourself as well.

I hope I will find these new aspects soon.


Thanks, Peggy.

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Dear guys (and gals), I have this question for ya:

There's this guy i'm talking with, we've built a good connection and all, we're planning a trip together this summer. It's also a LDR thingy (we have known each other for quite a while now, like 5-6 months).

The thing that kinda makes me wonder is: whenever he's out and i text him (i never know if he's out or not) he reads my messagge but doesnt reply until he is home.
It makes me wonder because when he texts me and i'm out, i do reply, even just to say that i'm out.
If i text him he doesnt. I find it kind of weird!

>>18381629
Just tell him you'd prefer if he texted you back that he was out.

>>18381629
Men are mean, aggressive, and brutal.

They don't give a fuck about your texting game pussy bullshit.

He only puts up with it because he eventually wants sex.

Men only tolerate women's shit, and financially support them, because they want sex in return. If he wanted friends he would be talking to other guys, because they overwhelmingly provide better platonic social interaction.

>>18381473
this is helpful, thank you

>>18381470
>>18381489
Well sorry for being guy, but really i have no choice than to obey my D.

>>18381495
We boys cant think past our closest cum.
>what do you mean baby?
>what do you mean aids?
>what do you mean i already have gf?
>what do you mean marriage?
>what do you mean 20 years later?
>dont talk nonsence brain, my penis demands sacrifice

>>18381498
Just ask her how has she been. If she is average girl, she will be able to talk about such topic for 1+ hour on her own. Dont forget to hug her at the end!

>>18381524
>girl like a lad
The key word you are looking for is trap.

>>18381542
I like it when girl has hair. So i guess hair down? But you have to smile anyway.

>>18381586
If you want one night stands, yes. If you seek somebody for longer relationships, your muscles arent THAT important.

>>18381629
Just tell him it kills you when he reads but dont reply. So he will read it once hes home :-)
>ldr is scam
>>18381641
Common, you are describing chad. What if her bf is beta or future provider with meak personality?

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>>18381476
>>18381477
>>18381486
>>18381487
>>18381489
>>18381515
>>18381701
How come you folks never help me?

>>18381489
And you're here to get jealous of it as usual.

>>18381717
With what?

>>18381098
So as a thicc girl, you get less male attention in a way? So it would be easier for guys to get you?

Strange. I'm nervous as fuck to talk to girls like you since I imagine your type getting swarmed by swole dude bros. I'll find my balls again and give it another go

>>18381718
jealous of what?
tbqh I'm glad so many people like it, they leave the actual pretty girls for me

>>18381754
Whatever you say lady.

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What are the signs of an abusive man?

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>>18381782
Is he a man?

If yes, he's abusive according to feminism.

>>18381782
They have probably fucked you by the time you realise.

>>18381782
>>18381799
and thus the trolling commences.


Kids, this is bait and should not be discussed.

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Why don't more girls go to the gym?

>>18381838
Not sure what kind of answer you're expecting here. More women go to the gym than they used to (given that being fit, and not just slim and well built, is ideal now) and they don't have different reasons for not going than men. (Lack of time, lack of energy, simply not prioritizing it, bad diet they can't give up, money, embarrassment, whatever.)

>>18381844
Why don't you go?

>>18381848
It's a combination of priorities (if I get myself to step it up and be more productive I'd rather invest more in my side project than take up working out) and not wanting the look. I would love to be more active in general, go swimming for an hour a few times a week, go skating more often again. But going to the gym not only seems boring in comparison, I have no desire to look like the pic you posted. Zero offense intended, she looks sexy as fuck and I sure would not tell her no if she wanted to spend a night in my bed. But to me it is just too prominently sexual, I don't want a huge ass more than I want huge tits. I don't just have sex, I also want to be able to look neutral/professional. I just ultimately prefer a body that's more "normal" I guess. I feel the same way about men. Muscle tone with a bit of fat, fuck yes. Ripped, not so much.
And yes I do know you can achieve a sleek aesthetic as well with training but it's just not important enough to me to outweigh the benefits of other types of physical things (like being outside).

Also now that I'm thinking about it more in depth since you asked, my sister has had a rampant eating disorder for about as long as I can remember. I have no reason to think that there's any of that in me, but the idea of actively trying to sculp my body like a project still rubs me the wrong way. I want to be slim and healthy/active in the general sense but that's about the extent that my bodygoals go.
Hope this gives you an idea.

>>18381855
Also for the record, I thought I mentioned it but I am slim. I guess I might feel differently if I were actively unhappy with my body... but even then weight loss is mostly about food.

>>18381855
You can't lift for 60 minutes, 4 times a week?

>>18381864
Theoretically, sure. I waste more time than that online. But it isn't just about the time, it's also about the energy. I study full time, do volunteer work, I quit my side job because I'm working on my thesis now but I actually cannot financially afford that either and have to get my ass to work as soon as I can. Then I have friends I want to see on a regular basis, I live alone so I do all my cooking and cleaning, and I work on my side stuff for more time than a couple of hours weekly.
All this keeping in mind that I don't have a relationship, otherwise it would be more packed still. Plus a person needs time to kick back and fuck around, you're not a machine that can be put to 95% efficiency or whatever, you need to reload your energy as well.

But as I said it's a combination. If it was my dream to have a sculpted body and I was highly interested in athletics no doubt I would find the same. It just doesn't rank as important compared to other things to me.

girls,

for what purpose would my current girlfriend need to follow my exes on Instagram and twitter?

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>>18381877
Don't you want Chad?

>>18381887
Morbid obsession. She feels threatened/insecure and either hopes to find stuff that puts her at ease, or she is past that point and wants to feed the bad feelings.

That is, if she's making a big deal out of it (insisting to know their info after you told her no or something). I bet there's girls who simply follow everyone they know... right?

>>18381889
Honestly, no. Nothing wrong with good looking guys but if I'm dating someone I want to be with someone I have a real connection with. I find that's rare enough without many additional standards and I have zero problems finding the average man attractive. My ex was cute but nothing outstanding objectively speaking, normal thin body, but because of how well we knew each other, how much I liked him etc he only had to throw me a certain look and I'd be so wet it was uncomfortable.
Besides as I mentioned I actually don't like the ripped Chadboy physique myself, either. Even disregarding how much time and food managing it takes to maintain. I like slim men, pudgy men, men with muscle and some fat on them, lithe men with some muscle, but not the whole six pack thing. Different strokes for different people.

>>18381891
i haven't talked to her, just noticed that the last couple of people she followed is one of my exes. She followed another ex of mine a few days ago but since they were both artists, i assumed it was her interest in my ex from an artist standpoint. Now that she has followed another ex, I am concerned.

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>>18381900
Reminds me that women don't know what they want.

You would cheat on your ex bf if pic related hit on you.

>>18381907
Hmm. Can you casually drop that you noticed you mentioned she followed [either one of your exes] and closely check whether she seems flustered?

Honestly not big on social media stuff so I don't know if you can point this out in a natural way, without seeming like you closely monitored what she does online...

I guess if they are both posting lots of artworks then it could be plausible, but twitter? And if it's really just about making art, she shouldn't feel weird about giving you her opinion on it.

>>18381900
So you wouldn't sleep with Chad? I don't believe that tbqh.

Either way, I recommend you to squat :)

>>18381919
If you wish to insist that you know better than me there's nothing I can do about that. But he was absolutely not the best looking guy showing me attention. Also I know what porn I like to watch.

And note how the picture you posted most dominantly features the guy's face... because that's what's most important for physical beauty anyway.

>>18381928
That's well within your rights, see the other post. Your mind is yours.

The world is recommending me to squat! But I'm just trying to write in peace. Sorry. Be happy that you live in the time period where this is a thing again and many women do aspire to look this way.

>>18381065
My girlfriend, first one, in fact, would like me to be dominant in bed. How do I go about that? The last thing I want is to force her into something she doesn't want and make her uncomfortable, and dominating someone doesn't come naturally to me. But I want to try anyway since that's what she likes
Any tips?

>>18381921
I'll try to and see how it goes.

>>18381959
Talk about it a bit more if she's open to that at all. (Some have the whole "it's not dominance anymore if I have to explain it" thing which is annoying and makes things trickier.) There's a lot of ways of domination, from mean degradation to daddy/little girl play to just rough sex with you having the upper hand. She is the best source in terms of what she wants. Eg you can ask her what she likes about it - if she says stuff like "feeling small" there's letting her feel your bodyweight and pushing her down on the bed or up against a wall, resting a heavy hand on the back of her head if she's going down on you, doing positions where you're holding her up, tying her down etc.
If she wants to feel submissive, give her commands. Text her randomly at work ordering her to get in the bathroom and not text you back until she got wet, request specific pictures. (Obviously I'm assuming that nudes are okay with her here.) Let her beg you to allow her to suck your dick.
If she wants to be put in her place, boss her around. Punish her for anything resembling an attitude (by spanking, orgasm denial, whatever).

The most vanilla/common form of domination is just manhandling her. Ripping her clothes off, pulling her hair (at the roots!), frantic kissing, spanking her ass, a posiiton like doggy where you hold her in place or hold her head down and fuck her hard. I would start with stuff like that and take note on what she responds most to, try to elaborate on that. I hope this gives you an idea! Also make sure to agree on a safeword in case you are trying rougher things.

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Femanons, i need your help.

My girlfriend of 3 years and i had our first relation, so to speak. She's been crazy lately, insisting that she might be pregnant, to which i always say it's likely impossible. I had a condom on and didn't even cum in her, even with the condom.
The most we did was me rubbing the tip on the outside, on her labia and me cumming on her lower back.

The reason she keeps insisting in such hypothesis is that her period is late, like almost 2 months late and she said it never happened to her before.

How do i deal with this?

What kind of gift would work for a guy?

I know him, and I know what he likes...the thing is that my budget is limited and his hobbies are not cheap...(games, anime figures...).

I want to make him a little gift but I can only think on gifts especially for women (like earrings, a necklace, a bracelet...)

>>18381981
Sex.

>>18381981
blowjob is a nice gift

>>18381981
Craft something like a collectible from one of his games or animes. He'd like it.

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>>18381941
You and I both know it will happen.

>>18381981
these
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>>18381980
Support her, and go with her to the gynecologist. He'd tell you what happens (probably is not pregnacy, it not should be. However, support and comfort her of she's scared)

>>18381981
Swallow for him. Perfect gift.

Women have it so easy....

>>18381980
Wait, what? You had your first relation? Do you mean this was your first time being sexually active together (or beyond much milder things)? Or did you mean to type something else?

Either way, did she take a test yet? She can get one and see it's negative for herself, and/or you can easily find sources that the menstrual cycle can be influenced by stress, nutrition and so on. I am usually regular as fuck but I've also had times when I was late.

To be fair, the idea that you might be pregnant when you don't want to be is fairly horrifying. I have never met a woman who doesn't relate to at some point freaking out over a missed/belated period before realizing you literally cannot be pregnant. It does sound a bit obsessive in her case though. If she has taken tests but this did nothing for her... that's a glaring red flag for bigger mental issues.

As for how you deal with it, do not indulge her. Give her constructive tips like getting tested and getting an implant if she's so scared. Offer to look up the one with the smallest possible failure rate.
If she dismisses things like this, next time she starts you say as neutrally and pleasantly as possible
>girlfriend, I feel like I've given you all my answers here, there's nothing left to say
and switch the topic. If she gets angry about it remain very calm and point out that you feel like you're feeding into her distress by entertaining these ideas, you have offered all your constructive options, and it's stressing you out to hear her so panicky so either come with something tangible you can do about it or give it a rest.

>>18382002

I've been staying supportive. What makes it difficult is that we're LDR and she was in my country for a little more than 2 weeks.

>>18381981
Jesus these responses. Just get him craft beer.

>>18381985
>>18381989
>>18382003
But I actually do this frecuently

>>18381991
Nice idea!

>>18381993
Well, I can live with that, there's worse ideas for my future than suddenly waking up and realizing I want to squat. Who knows.

>>18382004
Thanks for the reply.

And yeah, I meant to say sexual relation/intercourse. Which didn't even go very well, since it hurt her way too much, prompting us to stop.

I'll remain supportive, thank you.

>>18381974
>"it's not dominance anymore if I have to explain it"
Yeah, I'm afraid this is part of the problem, she doesn't really like to have to explain stuff, specially when it comes to sexual themes, she tends to say that it's something that has to come naturally and all that, and I find that hard when I don't know what she even wants, information is the best tool and it's being denied to me

Even then, I suppose the best way to go would be to start with vanilla stuff and going from there according to what she reacts to. I do know that she likes spanking but not to what point, she enjoys a spank here and there but I don't know if she'd be into a more continuous spanking

You're being very helpful, thanks

>>18382015
Yeah I just saw that you were in a LDR. I mainly asked because it actually is a (rare) thing that women are so intensely afraid of becoming pregnant that they abstain from sex altogether, so I was wondering if that was what took her so long but I'm guessing it was a matter of being physically together to begin with.

>hurt her way too much
Sounds like vaginism, honestly. Look it up. It's a subconscious shutting reflex of the vagina when penetration is about to occur. Some women are born with it, some develop it after trauma like sexual abuse or rape - even if you consciously want to fuck, your body is literally cringing remembering the bad experiences and deciding that it's not going to happen.

Either way, I don't know her and this is a stab in the dark but both extreme pregnancy anxiety and pain can be related to general anxiety about sex whether she realizes it or not.
It is not unusual to have pain during intercourse, especially during a first time when you are both nervous and might have rushed the foreplay. But she should be able to insert a tampon or a finger (of you or hers) into herself. If that's too much, then there's absolutely more at play than simple nerves.

>>18382025

Rushing the foreplay might have been the case. As for fingers, i could only fit one, i attempted to insert two, but she didn't take that.

As for the whole pregnancy thing, we had that intercourse at around may 14-15. It's June 3rd already. But she still insists. Having panic attacks just from seeing baby ads on her Facebook feed.

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>>18382040
She insists it might have been a "precum carry" from me rubbing the tip outside once. Didn't even do it for that long either.

>>18382017
Hmm. There's websites like kinkquiz.com or mojoupgrade that allow you to separately take tests seeing what you would like to try, and only showing the answers you and your partner have in common (so no embarrassment from them finding out you like something they find gross). That could work if she is just really shy/coy about it or finds a literal conversation awkward. If it's more her entire attitude that sex should be sensed and not discussed, I guess it's not of much use.

But yeah absolutely, she's not really helping you out here. It is possible that she's just ashamed to tell you spontaneously what turns her on in her mind... but it seems most likely to me that she is hoping to bring out some "natural dominant" side of you as a man, and does not want to instruct you for that reason. Going by this I think your best bet is to devour her next time and honestly just pay more attention to what you want to do than you normally would. Like switching positions without asking her, pushing her head down instead of asking for a blowjob... obviously you don't want to be actually painfully rough, think of it as coaxing a big and gentle animal around. You want to be firm but still mindful with your touch, just having this urgency to it, you are showing her what is going to happen and not leaving room for her to protest.

If you're lucky this is exactly what she means, but even if not, this is the most common way so I strongly doubt she would only volunteer the info that she wants you to Dom her without making sure that you know she -isn't- talking about this kind of stuff.

>continuous spanking
I would not really think of more spanking but rather incorporating a more obvious power element. Like using it as punishment, or stuff like telling her you are going to spank her x amount of times but only if she does not react, if you hear any yelp it goes up etc... but that's more next level shit, start with primal ravishing. Good luck!!

>>18382040
It's good that you could fit a finger in. As long as she was comfortably snug and not uncomfortably deathgripping that one finger, it is unlikely that she has issues there, then.

So if I understand it correctly her period was already late before that, and she still thinks that it's a sign she's pregnant...? I hate to tell you this but she should honestly talk to a professional. I mean yeah fine, theoretically there's a chance that you got her pregnant with that precum, but it's like 0.001% or something for a second of precum that has SOME sperm cells in it POTENTIALLY and doesn't even get literally inside while sperm does not like outer air much... This is a mental thing of hers. On top of testing herself perhaps try to encourage her to speak about it with her doctor, or with an online doctor if she's too embarrassed to go to her normal one. A good doctor would not just reassure her but also point out that if her responses are this extreme, it's indicative of deeper anxiety than just a pregnancy scare.

>>18382069

Just remembered that while she was here, on her last few days she did bleed a little, but after one or two days it just stopped.
I keep telling her to find a gynecologist, but she keeps saying it's too expensive in the US

>>18382098
But what about a simple home test she just needs to pee on?

>>18382098
>but she keeps saying it's too expensive in the US
tell her to google how much a kid costs

>>18382108
Lol.
Good one
>>18382100

She hasn't bought it yet for she works at the store that sells them. Doesn't want people to see her buying it. I've told her that she could just go to another store. But she hasn't yet done it

She definitely has anxiety.

>>18381838
I don't go because I don't like being stared at, and I'm not a natural athlete and don't actually enjoy gym workouts at all. I just run instead. I figure it's better to do something I like in order to be healthy.

>>18382117
She can delay all she wants but her body won't stick it's head in the sand like she's doing.

>>18382141
>I don't go because I don't like being stared at
>implying you're not invisible to anyone who actually lift

Why do some girls act flirty when they're talking to guys they don't actually have feelings for?

>>18382230
> what is a one night stand?

>>18382141
>I don't go because I don't like being stared at
>women actually think people will look at them at the gym

The gym is the most vain place you can go. Everyone there is only interested in how themselves look and are ignorant of anyone around them except for when they look around to see if anyone is looking at them.

>>18382230
Flirting is fun. There's no need for a further goal other than the flirting itself.

>>18382274
I hate it when people lead me on with flirting just for it to end with nothing

I always had low self esteem and any kind of flirting made me thing ''hey maybe im not that bad'' and bam suddenly I guess it was just something to fuck with me emotionally
I avoid it like the plague now, find an excuse and im gone

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>>18382274
>prepare a meal
>then throw it in the trash since there was no intent of eating it

What are some things to talk about or do when a girl tries to get flirty with you? This has happened to me a few times in the past months but it never seems to amount to anything.

>>18382278
>know a girl
>flirts with me all the time and has for months
>anytime i see her shes all over me and says how she wants to see me more
>then text her and never hear anything back
>rinse and repeat the same cycle
WHY

>>18382278
Can you imagine you would apply this logic to other areas? Eg if someone makes small talk with you they were just fucking with your emotions making it seem like they are interested in you when they don't actually want to be friends?

Flirting is just playful interaction where the only message is that you find each other attractive. That is fun and a confidence boost to many people.

>>18382280
Same for this. You will also get nothing out of a cashier throwing you a sunny smile, a stranger telling you to have a nice day, whatever. Doesn't mean it's not nice.

I'm not even that poster but I do agree.

>>18382288
Context is everything so there's not much advice to be given.

>>18382278
They're not doing it to fuck with you emotionally, even if that's the result. And they really are telling you that you're not that bad. Flirting is sort of a way of telling someone you find them attractive or fun without necessarily wanting a relationship. You should consider it a compliment.

>>18382280
People bake for fun all the time, it's kind of a bad analogy. Shit, that's why Easy Bake Ovens were so popular.

>>18382289
I just defended flirting for the sake of flirting but for the record, this isn't what I mean with that.

>>18382280
Why? Because women aren't the ones making the meal. They take amusement from watching you make the meal because they like to feel like they have power over you, making you work for them, but they don't give a shit about actually eating it.

They've got dozens of chefs available at any time if they want to eat a meal. And they don't care about the time and ingredients you had to waste cooking because you thought she actually wanted to eat it, because they don't care about you. You were nothing more than a toy to pass the time, and who cares if they hurt a toys feelings?

>>18382296
someone smiling at you, and someone flirting with you arent exactly the same thing

>>18382297
Alright, thanks. I'll think about it some more and I'm sure I'll figure some things out.

>>18382296
Small talk and flirty are two very different things.

>>18382307
What makes it so different? Okay flirting is interaction, you can substitute it with joking around with you or making small talk with you.

Just because it isn't the full package doesn't mean it isn't pleasant or fun.

>>18382313
The concept is the same, it sometimes leads to something bigger/more important but a lot of the times it's a dead end that gives a bit of color to life.

Hell, I haven't had sex in three years and I would've gone insane already if I didn't have the thrill of flirting and feeling that sexual tension.

>>18382314
its not really pleasant to me though, its like holding a piece of steak infront of a dog and everytime it goes for a bite you pull it away

>>18382324
Guess it depends largely on how satisfying you find the mere knowledge that someone finds you sexually attractive.

Girls and guys

Is it true that "you'll meet someone really cute when you least expect it"?

>>18382333
No. Why the hell would that be true?

>>18382329
it might be trust issues seeing as quite a few girls did actually just use it to fuck with me

>>18382333
In my experience, yes. When I gave up on trying to find a gf, I met someone that same week.

>>18382333
In part... you are more likely to find a partner who matches you when you are invested in what you (otherwise) like in and want out of life, than if you are singularly obsessed with finding love.

But it also hugely depends on your lifestyle. If you're constantly in male dominated environments then no, there isn't suddenly going to appear a cute girl wanting to date you if you just pay attention to other stuff.

Basically use common sense and the takeaway is that people who are reasonably satisfied with the life they made for themselves are much more attractive than those who aren't.

>>18382333
To an extent. If you're not looking for someone you usually come off less creepy and desperate than usual.

>>18382343
Yeah that could well be it. It took me some time after high school to not feel distrustful or wary of this type of attention.

But I honestly find that if someone is sincerely sexually attracted to you, it shows (if they allow themselves to, and that's part of the flirting). How they turn their body towards you, how closely they watch you, flushed face, starry eyes, breathless, obviously bettering their posture, smiling just from looking at your face and so on. If you do it well it's more than just throwing someone a line, it's giving a glimpse of what they evoke in you.

Why is it when ever a girl comes to me for advice she wants to date me. Why do I only attract girls who need to work on themselves before getting into relationships.

>>18382357
I just hate it, was on the receiving side of that joke many times and I know how it ends but she just wont go away and leave me be

Girls, what's the appeal with watching gay porn? Don't answer with ''what's the appeal with watching lesbian porn''.

>>18382348

>If you're constantly in male dominated environments then no

This is me. I pursue my passions and love my hobbies. But they just happen to be male dominated.

>>18382412
Well part of it IS the appeal of lesbian porn. If a woman likes a man being sexual, what's not to like about two men being sexual?

Apart from that, regular straight porn just typically does not involve a lot of the things that women like to see. This is the same for lesbian porn, which is also quite popular among women. There is more "foreplay" and hinting at the dynamic that the two people have, less straight up furious humping. Add to this that a lot of straight porn has shit that annoys women (like the woman making a shitton of fake noise, the man being silent as a rock - even when she's blowing him).

Personally I also like the shock factor. Especially seeing two burly, "straight" looking men suddenly make out or something, it has that element of surprise and defying expectations, I don't know.

>>18382430
Just realized I phrased it weirdly, obviously I meant to say that F/F has a lot of qualities that women enjoy that M/M also features but M/F not nearly as much.

>>18382435
Why do straight women watch F/F? Isn't M/M just as fake and annoying as M/F?

>>18382430
But what's the appeal in seeing two feminine men go at it? I thought women were into masculinity.

>>18382460
>what's the appeal in seeing two feminine men go at it?

I guess you missed the part where she said
>seeing two burly, "straight" looking men suddenly make out

>>18382466
No I didn't. Answer me please.

>>18382456
Because they care more about seeing sex acts that they actually like to have done to them, than about being very personally attracted to the people they are watching. Realize that most male porn actors also are not exactly selected on their looks, but rather on their ability to hold off climax and come on demand. Besides it is arousing to see things of which you know exactly how good it feels (just like straight guys still like to see a blowjob).

They are absolutely fake in the sense of being staged, but there's more stuff going around in F/F than simple in-out-in-out penetration because of anatomy. A straight woman won't care as much as a man about seeing women kiss with their boobs pressed together but she will enjoy seeing the couple kiss and letting momentum build before other stuff happens. Also women in general seem to enjoy looking at other women more than men the other way around, straight or not. I would argue that this is largely cultural but that's besides the point.
With M/M there is obvious male enjoyment in a way it isn't in M/F. Imagine you wanted to look up a video of a woman getting her pussy eaten, quivering and moaning her way to a climax. Then you click a video and it's a man grunting insanely on her pussy while making a big show out of how much he is digging having it all in his mouth etc etc... and there is no peep from the girl, you are lucky to get a shot seeing her face, the man's heavy breathing is everywhere.
That is essentially what trying to watch a lot of straight porn is like for a straight woman who just wants to see a man enjoy himself.

>>18382476
>Also women in general seem to enjoy looking at other women more than men the other way around, straight or not
You mean men looking at men?

>>18382430
>>18382476
Women are fucking crazy, man.

How awful is it to be a woman?

>>18382460
To be fair this is not my personal preference (it doesn't exactly turn me off but does not turn me on enough to seek it out either) so I am making an educated guess here. But I have come across a lot of yaoi fanfiction etc in my time and am pretty sure that this is kind of a (positively) feminized fantasy some women have of a man who is more like a woman in terms of sex. Eg it is very common for women like this to be into men being cute, flustered, innocent and so on. I think that has to do with wanting to see those emotions and the vulnerability and what not in men that they often shut down and try to downplay, because of the contrast but also because they recognize it from their own experience and imagining a guy who's sexual and has a dick and all but also has those qualities they recognize and value, feelings they enjoy having themselves etc hits a special spot.

Just like many men love to fantasize about women who are like testosterone vixens who want to fuck everything that moves, climax at the drop of a hat, use them for sex etc. They wouldn't like that in real life, but it's like a crossover between what they are attracted to and what they know themselves to be sexual behaviors.

Note how many (especially young girls') idols in this regard are in many ways also WAY too romantic, sensitive/dramatic, self-doubting and what not for your average dude. Look at the guy from Twilight, for example. It's like they get their sexual and emotional fantasy at the same time.

>>18382492
This. The way your brain is wired.

>>18382481
Yes.

>>18382288
Try to ask her on dates and or ask her for her number.

>>18382333
That is lie from jews so you will stay single forever. If you dont actively try, nothing will happen.

>>18382371
Lower your standards. Pussy is pussy.

>>18382489
And that is why we love them.

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>>18382494
>Just like many men love to fantasize about women who are like testosterone vixens
Get a load of this chick.

>>18382492
It's pretty cool in the western world nowadays. I'm quite sure being a "top percentage" guy is much better than the female equivalent, but for an average person I think being a woman is a better experience overall.

>>18382512
The very part where in porn the woman is instantly willing to fuck the pizza delivery guy already shows a masculine attitude to sex.

My theory is that all women are somewhat bi. Am I right?

>>18382520
>masculine attitude to sex
According to fucking who?

>>18382522
Hahaha, no, absolutely not. There are many women who can appreciate a beautiful woman but are squicked out by the idea of kissing one, let alone putting their lips on the other lips.

>>18382522
I also believe that all women are open to eating another womans pussy. I don't think that we're that off, m8.

>>18382525
What, are you trying to convince me that there are bountiful young women worldwide who would be happy to fuck a random dude just because they can?

This is still disregarding that they also don't particularly care for getting oral sex or being fingered longer than five seconds, can all have orgasms easily from penetration and think foreplay is a waste of precious time.

Sorry man, mainstream porn is women acting like horny men.

>>18382536
I see sluts at the club go home with average dudes all the time. I'm one of them (minus the average:)

>>18381291

Yes.

Because I'm a creepy ass wimp that's had any motivation to ever make the first move completely beaten out of me.

It's the only way anything would ever happen to be honest, and even if I didn't find her attractive I'd still be incredibly flattered.

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>>18382528
Are you implying that you don't want to kiss another woman and eat her out?

>>18382522
>>18382534
Okay fuck more serious answer. Though the "no" was absolutely serious.

We live in a culture in which the female body is upheld as beautiful and sexy, much more than the male body. Women just like men are surrounded by beautiful women in flattering shots portrayed as the height of human beauty, and our idea of aesthetics is for a large part shaped by cultural factors. Even many women who identify as straight can enjoy looking at beautiful naked women.

On top of that, being bisexual as a woman is often sort of treated like being straight with a wild edge. If you have even the slightest bit of curiosity, there is hardly a stigma to try something out, and in many cases casually kissing with women can even get you attention or a reputation for being kinky and wild. It is really common for these girls who drunkenly kiss to have zero desire to eat each other out.

Also just from anecdotal experience, just because a girl kissed another girl and thinks it was an okay or good experience, doesn't mean it aroused lust in her. Hell, I have a friend who was actually in bed with another woman but could only conclude afterwards that nope, she was straight and it did little for her.

Whereas for men it's the other way around, if you have some lingering desire for men but are overall into women, you better shut the fuck up about it in most places and never act on it. This gives a big discrepancy.

There's also some indicators that female turn ons and preferences are more fluid than those of men and women get more turned on from sexuality in the broad sense than men do. http://www.alternet.org/story/125140/bonobo_sex_and_%27ladyboners%27%3A_is_women%27s_desire_really_that_confusing

There's absolutely women who cringe just thinking about this stuff though.

>>18381542

Hair down.

All the way.

Women just look more relaxed and approachable with their hair down.

Though, if you don't want to be approached, go with tying it up.

>>18382546
Yeah sure, but after flirting with them or dancing with them or after they got drunk and decided they were going to fuck one way or another. Not just stopping by on a Wednesday only to be fucking within moments.

>>18382558
I would like to but that doesn't mean everyone does. In fact the woman I'd like to get with most has told me in all sorts of detail why she thinks women are gorgeous but not sexually attractive to her. Life is pain.

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>>18382564
>much more than the male body
I take so much offense to that, you have no idea.

>>18382577
Hey, I mentioned it was cultural. It was the other way around with the ancient Greek, they thought the male body was vastly superior and it was much more normal to see that portrayed.

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>>18382564
>women who identify as straight can enjoy looking at beautiful naked women
>women who identify as straight
>straight
>can enjoy looking at beautiful naked women
This is contradiction.

>>18382584
I mean, you can have any criteria you want but it seems pointless to me to call a woman bi on any grounds if she is opposed to kissing a woman let alone doing more sexual stuff with her.

>>18382564
I think it has something to do with women being feminine to begin with. They can fuck whatever, they're already sub. Who gives a shit.

Men on the other had is masculine, supposed to dominate, put man on Mars, etc. Trading the other was is something completely different. Majority of gays irl are so god damn feminine.

>>18382589
My point is that the vast majority of women are into fucking each other. Majority won't discover it.

As this >>18382595 faggot said, they're already feminine with their emotional bullshit, etc.

>>18382595
Women can be dominant. Sure your average woman cannot overpower your average man but power play isn't really about physical power to begin with. The real power people have over each other is psychological, and that can work out either way. I'd wager that maledom is mostly more common because a lot of straight turn ons evolve around the natural differences and biologically obviously the man has the physical upper hand.

Also the distinction between fucking women=dominant and fucking men=submissive isn't the only way to look at it. Again looking at ancient Greece (Rome as well) they saw it differently: you had fucking like a man (penetrating) and fucking like a woman (being penetrated). You were gay to receive a dick but not to fuck a man in the ass.
These things are fairly subjective.

>>18382600
I still disagree. Of all the women I know who made out with another woman, for at least two thirds it was curiosity that was satisfied, or something they thought would turn them on but didn't really.

>>18382606
>These things are fairly subjective.
They were wrong. We know better.

>Women can be dominant
How?

>>18382606
>The real power people have over each other is psychological
How is this not in men's favour? Who the fuck is still dominating this world despite giving women ladders, shoulders, etc.

if you had to choose between two girls, would you choose an 8/10 who is friendly but uninterested or a 6/10 who puts effort into seeing you and making conversation

>>18382612
>They were wrong.
On what grounds? Not like we're talking about empirical data or anything, just social categories.

>How?
The same way a man is dominant. Sure the fact that he is bigger/heavier will add to the spiel, but it is not the source of maledom either. Both partners consent and they both know that if the woman were to actually physically try to get away or whatever, he would not stop her let alone go all out with all the power he could be using on her. The real power play they're enjoying is psychological - commands, name calling, needing to ask permission etc, that's all mental stuff.

Also think about it like this. A man could punch a woman in the face during sex and it would no doubt hurt as fuck. But would it hurt as much as a woman telling a man "I don't love you anymore" or "your dick never quite fills me up" during sex? At the very least the latter is most efficient and clean.
Physical strength plays a tiny part in our modern society, whereas strength of character, intimidation, manipulation etc thrive as always. Look at politics. That's what real life power looks like and it has little to do with being able to literally overpower someone.

>>18382619
Who in the fuck cares about stats from the past when you are lying in bed one on one with another person? Do you feel guilty towards women for historical slights made towards them? If not, don't expect them to be awed by you technically being part of the group of people who invented shit.

Also for the record, women are outnumbering men in terms of entering college and at least where I live (western Europe) women below thirty five already are more often employed and bring in a higher salary than their male peers. If stats continue as they do know, within a few decades there will be more female doctors, surgeons etc than male ones.
For the record, I think this is going to give huge issues and that something should be done to even things out, but the idea that women are just getting by with some favors men did them is outdated.

Also did not mean to imply that psychological power is in either the male or the female favor. Just that it's something that is dependent on the dynamic between two people more than who is technically the strongest.

>>18382622
>I don't love you anymore" or "your dick never quite fills me up" during sex?
You do realise that the majority of men don't care and 4chan is literally a boutique sample of the male population, right?

>>18382622
One could also say that the reason we don't fuck you whenever we want to is because of social constructions. Almost all politician suck billionaire dick, a club that is like a 97% male.

>>18382635
Don't care about what? About being a good lover or about their partner loving them? They sure do.

Sure this is assuming there is attachment and she's not some random willing girl. Either way it is all about the perception you have.

>boutique sample
Not a native speaker and had to look this up, just a lot of Beastie boys..?

>>18382642
Does it really matter whether it is because of morals or because of negative consequences, as long as it's not really a valid option?

>>18382629
I find this college meme hilarious. You become cogs.

Men figured out that you don't need memes to create the future. You need knowledge.

A girl sent me the first message on tinder. Oh shit this hasn't happened before. What do I say? She sent "Heyyyy" with a smug emoji

Ladies, when's a good time to show physical affection towards you? On what date?

>>18382662
First date
Don't be me

>>18382654
There are already more female judges than male ones in my country. And that's middle aged ladies, not the youngest generations. There's more female law students, dentist, medicin. They also have a better success rate graduating.

Sure men outnumber women looking at the real technical STEM educations, but the idea that women are all only doing psychology is laughable.

>>18382620
Why would I want any girl who isn't interested?

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>>18382668
Because those occupations are irrelevant.

>>18382492
I hate it. I wish I could change my gender to be a male. Sure, the government is in our favor, but that's about it. I have to watch for guys that will try to manipulate me to sleep with them and pump and dump (so basically watch out for 90% of the male population), I have to control temptations and not sleep around, if I don't sleep with a guy I'm labeled a prude, asexual, or a bad girlfriend. I can't win either way. I have the biological, personal, and social pressure to be married and have children before I'm too old. That being said I cannot advance into my career too much because I need to raise children. And even if I do marry and have children, years later my husband will no longer be attracted to me because I have aged and will have an affair with a younger woman for a night while on a business trip. My pussy bleeds every month and it causes me to be emotional and have pains that leave me in bed for days. Can't take pills because I don't want to fuck up my fertility or go through the side affects they cause (depression, weight gain, acne). Can't get fat either. Men will consider me disposable. So yeah, it's pretty awful. Men have their fair share of hardships as well though.

>>18382677
Really? Doctors and lawyers/judges are irrelevant? Grasping at straws here...

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>>18382681
Not those who work in biotech, though. Majority men, though. That's the hardcore sport.

You see, men don't pick occupations, we pick sport.

>>18382691
That's cool. Men also pick addiction, criminal activity and psychosis more often than women. There is no point in pretending the highest or lowest category of a gender represents them all. Sure there work few women in biotech compared to men. There also work VERY few men in biotech compared to man as half mankind.

Why did nature, god, whatever, make women physically inferior to men AND also less intelligent? Doesn't make sense.

>>18382701
>Men also pick addiction, criminal activity and psychosis more often than women
I'm ok with this. We war more, too :)

>>18382704
It makes perfect sense actually. Men are twice as evolved as women.

>>18382704
There are more male retards and more male geniuses, that's all. 2/10 for getting a post I guess.

>>18382704
Jesus Christ, give them a break, man.

>>18382704
Brood mares

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>>18382712

>>18382710
My point is that there are great men and there are shitty men as there are women. If I were you I would try to make something of my own life and not trying to lift on the accomplishments of exceptional men. Try to do your own inventions in biotech if you enjoy it so much.

>>18382723
I 100% agree with you.

>>18382720
Nice picture with no source. Also up until recent decades men were overall better educated and more stimulated than women to begin with.

>Differences in intelligence have long been a topic of debate among researchers and scholars. With the advent of the concept of g or general intelligence, some researchers have argued for no significant sex differences in g factor or general intelligence[1][2] while others have found greater intelligence in males.[3][4] The split view between these researchers depended on the methodology[1] and tests they used for their claims.[5] One study found some advantage for women in later life,[6] while another found that male advantages on some cognitive tests are minimized when controlling for socioeconomic factors.[7]

>Some studies have concluded that there is larger variability in male scores compared to female scores, which results in more males than females in the top and bottom of the IQ distribution.[8][9] Additionally, there are differences in the capacity of males and females in performing certain tasks, such as rotation of objects in space, often categorized as spatial ability.

Copy pasted so you don't even have to look it up, good luck.

>>18382726
The consensus in the scientific community over the world is that men tend to be more intelligent, meaning A. higher than average or B. lower than average, while women is more in the middle. The problem? The magic happens in the top 10% area, where there is a major major shortage of women.

>>18382726
>cope
http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-better.php

>>18382704
Did it make women just to fuck with us? Because that extra IQ and strenght derives from the penis. I'm sure of it.

>>18382723
I too, agree 100% with this post.

>>18382789
It made the penis to CAP our strenght and intelligence. Don't listen to it.

>>18382723
Can't say that! Men may be stronger but their ego is more fragile than anything. I'd like to see a study on that.

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>>18382801
Is it really surprising to people that a mans ego is more fragile? Much of a mans sense of self worth is based around as a masculinity. If he fails to provide for the family or be a sexual powerhouse or whatever his pet demon is it shatters. Not saying a woman can't have depression over her perceived lack of femininity, but I've never seen it be quite so crippling in large part because it's much more passive.

Why can't women just admit that men are better? Not all of them, but on average. We still love you, want you, need your pussy, etc.

>>18382807
It's literally all the penis. It's like a headcrab.

>>18382807
Because men have dignity.

>>18382808
Because I don't believe it's true, aside from being physically stronger, and your sexually desiring me does not a) equate to love. Men don't know what love is (towards women. I've seen gay men in love), or b) negate the soul crushing awfulness of being treated as lesser by the person you invest the most in.

>>18382807
I don't often see men throwing huge temper tantrums and getting people fired any time someone does something "sexist".

>>18382810
Pretty sure a man having a mental breakdown because he can't provide for his family is a touch more nuanced than thinking with his dick.

>>18382816
>Because I don't believe it's true
All the stats says otherwise.

>>18382823
All I've ever seen are uncited /pol/ infographics.

>>18382827
What about the sources ITT?!

>>18382808
Because i want to be seen as an equal person, not a pretty thing to fuck.

>>18382831
>>18382720
Like this?

>>18382831
Well, that's unfortunate.

>>18382835
Sorry>>18382829

>>18382836
>Well, that's unfortunate.
Isn't it just? Oh well, I wasn't destined for relationships I guess.

>>18382835
See
>>18382761

>inb4 love

>>18382816
This. Go ahead, call me a feminazi. Men don't know what love is. They know how to confuse the lust and enjoyment of a hole for love, though. That's not very intelligent. I also find it interesting how men say women are inferior, but we're the ones that helped create human civilization. Your sperm is useless without me carrying your child in me for 9 months and raising it. Men cannot handle the pain a woman goes through on her menstrual cycle or from giving birth. You're not so strong after all. Physical strength does not equate physical endurance.

>>18382831
lol

>>18382847
>http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-better.php
And uh, how reliable is this site?

>>18382848
>Your sperm is useless without me carrying your child in me for 9 months
Not anymore :D

>>18382851
>lol
Yeah, I'm asking so much of men. Oh well. I'd rather die alone than date a man like you or the other guys in this thread.

>>18382827
You're sure using that "intelligence" to the finest, aren't ya? Posting on 4chan all day must make you feel like a genius.

>>18382854
Check the scientific studies they're referring too. Legit stuff.

>>18382848
>Your sperm is useless without me carrying your child in me for 9 months and raising it
Yeah, about that...

>>18382848
FYI, men tolerates pain better than women. Look it up.

>>18382862
>Check the scientific studies they're referring too. Legit stuff.
Even if that is the case, it doesn't apply to me as I have an IQ of 145. I dislike being treated as if I'm inferior simply because I'm female, when it's not the case for me.

Guys, guys.......be nice to women.

>>18382867
Raw intelligence doesn't matter if you can't utilize it. Another win for men and their test swords.

>>18382868
This, they're very delicate and fragile things, stop bullying them, you might as well be beating up children whilst you're at it.

>>18382868
Why?

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>>18382867
>Even if that is the case, it doesn't apply to me as I have an IQ of 145.

>>18382873
>Raw intelligence doesn't matter if you can't utilize it. Another win for men and their test swords.
Well, I will be going to university soon for medicine (eventually I aim to be a neurosurgeon). I do use it.

>>18382854
>>18382863
Single parents psychologically damage a child :D You can have as many scientific advancements as you wish, the best children are raised with two parents. Besides, nothing can erase the billions of people born that were carried for 9 months. This is a stupid argument. Don't act like it didn't happen. Point is, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for women.
>>18382865
Funny how a study was done that they cannot handle the pain of giving birth.

>>18382875
Because we're gentlemens. This whole "which gender is better" is such an obvious question. It's one of those you never bring up or ever talk about but deep down inside knows the answer to.

>>18382881
A youtube video of buzz-cucks isn't a scientific study.

>>18382881
>muh child birth pain
The only thing in any women's "I can do stuff too" arsenal. It's been a tired argument for decades.

>>18382891
It's been debunked.

Women = pussy.

That is all.

>>18382889
There's many. Not just a youtube video.
>>18382891
Well, that's life. That's how we evolve. It's the number one most important thing for even men to come into this world. Men are disposable, useless humans, and it doesn't matter what you do. If we do not reproduce human civilization will eventually cease. Women are more important than you, and you know it.

>>18382879
Why can't you found a company?

>>18382881
Ask a woman who has given birth and also had kidney stones which one was more painful. Women being biologically designed as incubators doesn't make them the builders of civilisation, we'd still be in mud huts if you were in charge; the patriarchy exists only as the natural conclusion to many millennia of history in which men dominated the fuck out of women. It'd be like if India claimed superiority to England because Indian slaves built the railways. Yes they built the railways, as fucking slaves. You are stupid.

>>18382906
>There's many. Not just a youtube video
Post one (1) credible.

>>18382848
>Go ahead, call me a feminazi. Men don't know what love is. They know how to confuse the lust and enjoyment of a hole for love, though.
I mean, this does sound like a pretty good description of a feminazi.

Are you the same ditz from the other night that kept calling men sex addicts because people didnt want to wait years to have sex?

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>>18382906
>Men are disposable, useless humans, and it doesn't matter what you do. If we do not reproduce human civilization will eventually cease. Women are more important than you, and you know it.
Both are as equally useless as each other. But do keep on with your feminazi beliefs and hatred that has stemmed from individual bad experiences.

>>18382918
I suspect it's the same poster from the last few threads that's been baiting with this feminazi shit like one a while ago that was talking about "setting all the sister free". Shit sucks when you just come here to ask innocent questions to one another and then this garbage happens.

Am I the only one who thinks that both sides are female posters?

>>18382927
What proof do you want that I'm a guy
Hardmode: no pictures

>>18382920
>Both are as equally useless
Yeah, what the fuck did men do for civilization.

>>18382915
You're not very smart even if you have a penis. I never said women were builders of civilization, I said they create humans. Thanks for proving my point. Men are in charge right now and governments are still corrupt, nothing is perfect even when women have no control. Men are not some ultra intelligent, superior beings, they still suck at what they do. It's been discussed plenty of times the roles that women had in building civilization though that was not my main point here.
>men dominated the fuck out of women
You're proud of a time when men acted like animals, raped and beat women, abandoned their own children, and you use this example of degenerated men to prove how amazing your gender is. How pitiful.

>>18382916
Roasties btfo

>>18382912
>Why can't you found a company?
Because I would rather be a surgeon and actually help people?

>>18382933
hehe

>>18382831
Don't worry, I think you're stupid and I don't want to fuck you

>>18382947
Because you're weak and scared.

>>18382952
>Because you're weak and scared.
No, because I think it requires real skill to become a medical professional, but being a businessperson only requires psychopathy and a head for numbers.

>>18382885
/topic

>>18382936
>>18382915
You're both such fucking useless human beings
Proof: you get mad at people online

>>18382957
>requires psychopathy
>surgeon
Don't look at the stats.

>>18382932
Tell us the secret patri-password that all men know and use to gain entrance to our monthly patriarchy meetings where we plan out how we're going to oppress women.

>>18382957
What skill? A steady hand?

>>18382925
Honestly I've gotten a few laughs out of it at least, like claiming one man is all the world needed because dick is cheap and then avoiding the million dollar question of what happens after generation 2.

>>18382968
>oppress women
We never did that.

>>18382964
Having a discussion does not mean I'm emotionally involved here. No matter what you bastards say, I stand my ground and I will be a feminazi and hate men forever if I have to. Pitiful, distasteful, futile animals you all are. I'm glad the male suicide rate is so high. Cheers!

>>18382978
Ha, confirmed woman.

>>18382971
>surgeons only need a steady hand

Well I sure hope you never operate on me.

>>18382932
Do you play 4x or /egg/ tier games?

>>18382982
You really need a cock in your mouth.

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>>18382982
Butthurt level: maximum

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>>18382936
>I never said women were builders of civilization
>>18382848
>we're the ones that helped create human civilization

Not amazing, no, superior. You say that women create humans. They don't. Men and women together create humans. Your incubator is worth nothing without sperm. The difference is that through the many millennia of human existence men have repeatedly acted like animals, raped and dominated women, exactly as you say, and that's why humanity perseveres. Going by modern standards of the term rape, most procreation throughout all of human history has been the result of rape. God raped Mary to make Jesus and the majority of your 'woman-aided' civilisation celebrates that. But at the end of the day we're animals, there are dominant roles and subservient roles, superior and inferior, and the ones that dominate are superior to the ones that serve are inferior. That's what these words mean.

What you're trying to say is that you like women better because women are more 'emotional' and 'deep' and 'spiritual', and when they look out of the window at a rainy day it resonates with their spirit karma and fulfils their daily need of good feelings, and all that gay shit, and that's fine, but what you actually said was women are superior to men because they've spent many millennia being holes used almost solely for the purpose of fucking and popping out babies, and that's just completely backwards. I never said it's nice, but it's fact. Females are basically the nice guys of gender to the males' Chad.

This would all be solved if more women squat.

>>18382987
I'll bite it hard and burn the balls :)
>>18382993
I'm just a passionate advocate for this movement. In 10-15 years, we will rise in power and continue to treat you all like the disposable animals you are. Roles will be turned and your long history of overpowering us will seek revenge.

>>18382964
Who's madder, the people discussing a topic being discussed by others or the guy who butts in solely to rant about their discussion? Calm down.

>>18382968
I'm the original guy

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>>18382986
>Be akirian in MoO2
>fucking annex all your shit