How do you get a gf when you've got nothing to offer to

>>18376139
Be nice and funny and lower your standards.
That's all

You don't. If even you don't believe you have anything to offer, then how can anyone else?

>>18376139
You can't. Put it out of your mind and focus on your passions, no matter how stupid or silly.
People are going to tell you "we'll improve urself and ull attract someone! :)" which is pure bullshit. Do things because you like them. Don't fall into the improvement treadmill.

There's probably a fair number of girls out there who think "Eh, I wouldn't mind dating him" or "I'd give him a chance if he asked me out". It's a shame they don't know about your crippling self-esteem issues.

>>18376142
I am nice and some people think I'm funny, and I don't think I ask for too much. I just want someone who's compatible with my lifestyle and world view.

>>18376143
I wasn't asking how to get a girl with nothing. I was asking how to get something to offer.

>>18376145
That's sound advice but I'm still lonely, though. And couldn't provide for a dog.

>>18376156
>I was asking how to get something to offer
And this is why you fail. You missed my point entirely. You only have as much to offer as you believe you do. You have zero confidence in yourself, you lead with insecurity. If you project that, it is all anyone will ever see. You already have things to offer. You have to figure out what those things are, embrace them, and accept your shortcomings. You may never have the pick of the litter for women, but it's not hard to find a woman shorter than you in your league that never went to college either.

>>18376156
Do you have friends or family? then you are not lonely.

Nobody in this world cares or owes you anything, so stop expecting anything from them. Focus on the things you like instead of things you know you can't reach.

>>18376159
Yeah, I misread you, but that doesn't change my question.

How do I get there?

If poor self-esteem is my problem, how do I get a better one?

>>18376163
I'm not here to want things I don't deserve, I'm meaning to deserve the things I want.

>>18376183
That's not a question anyone can really answer for you. You have to find it within. Dig deep if you have to. What are you passionate about? What are your principles and beliefs? Self worth can only be found by knowing yourself and accepting that person for who they are, flaws and all. If you find things about yourself you can and want to improve, such as going to school, then do it, but only for yourself not for others. You say you're stupid, but your posts don't read like someone unintelligent wrote them.

>>18376201
I believe that people are inherently good and are meant to help each other. And it would be nice to find a girl who thinks the same.

Not sure how this applies to self-improvement in any way.

>>18376183
You don't deserve anything. Neither does anybody else. That kind of thinking leads to the self-improvement treadmill, which will only give you pain and frustration.

>>18376156
>couldnt provide for a dog
If you are so big failure that you dont even have enough money for a dog, you are lost case. Consider suicide.
>that was a joke

Get yourself into trade. Military, police, plumber, construction worker ANYTHING DONT BE NEET. And then date hot single moms. They are desparate for anybody. Chad dumped them, they learned the lofe lesson in hard way and now are even more lonely than you stucked with a baby constantly reminding them how much they fucked up their own life.

They will date once you will have stable job and in exchange for money they will give you love and even allow your worthless dna to propagate itself.

>>18376214
You already said that. For the sake of clarity, try explaining what to do instead.

>>18376215
>can't afford
I don't mean financially. I meant I don't have the kind of stability in my life. I don't know whether my next apartment will allow pets or whether I'd have time to train a puppy and regularly walk a dog.

I'm starting school to become a nurse (yeah fuck off, career options are limited when you're stupid) and I think we come from different kinds of cultures when it comes to families and dating.

Around here people only divorce their first spouses when the kids are at least 10, though usually in their teens, and considering that most women don't have their first kid before 24-25, the single mom market is closer to 35-55 than 25-35.

I'm 23 and not really tempted by the idea of hitting on womeb who could be my mom's friends, especially if they have sons physically capable of beating the shit out of me.

>>18376226
So what exactly do you want?
Hug? Advice? Girlfriend?
And why?

Understand me op, you are just another guy whining on /adv/ about no gf. What have you done so far to obtain one? What are you willing to sacrifice in order to find the one? Getting gf is evolution and survival of the fittest. What you lack in your body, you have to match with aggresivity and brain power.

You claim you have small penis. So what? Girls dont get off from penetration alone. Google how to eat girls properly.

You claim you are stupid. There are TONS of jobs for idiots. Some of them are even well paid. Your ability to learn english, solve capcha and type means you have better education than niggers from sahara.

Stop using shit excuses, whining and tell me what exactly do you want and why.

Your initial post is no different from frogposters posting
>tfw no gf
all over 4chan. Stop the self pity train and decide what do you want.

Also at 23 it is too soon to give up. So what will it be? Hug, advice, suicide or ghost thread?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=co4YpHTqmfQ
Try to blast it with full volume, maybe it will make you feel good.

>>18376238
Welcome to /adv/, where all the posts are >tfw no gf in disguise. The 'hide thread' button is your best friend

>>18376238
A hug and advice on how to get a girlfriend, mainy.

I didn't come here to whine, I legit do not know what I SHOULD be doing to obtain one. If I did, I would already have done so.

I don't know about sacrifice but I've got a strong back and I'm willing to put work into getting things I want.

I'm not using excuses. Scrolling through this tread, I really don't understand where you've seen me say anything that could be interpreted as an "excuse".

I know you've probably seen a lot of shit threads starting out this exact way, but they have not been mine and that is not my cross to bear.

I'm not self-pitying here. All I'm saying is that these are the lemons I got, and ask how to best make lemonade.

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>>18376240
Fuck off with your (you). There is clear difference between frogposter baitings for replies and people struggling with their lives. If you arent here for giving or obtaining help, feel free to go back from where you came.

>>18376244
Goodness, it looks like you're triggered

>>18376243
Every girl is different, BUT most of them looks for similiar things in boys like:
financial stability
attractiveness
confidence
maturity
dick
sex
ability to make them laught
ability to listen to their bitching
ability to fullfill their attention hunger
ability to make them feel desired
willingnes to impregnate them and be provider for them and baby
social status

So your first start is to get into shape. Nobody has excuse to be fat.
>>>/fit/ and stop being fat
also muscles are good too, can you do pushups and pullups? No? Then google some body weight routine and stop being weak bitch.

Second step is to build personality.
>>>/lit/ and go read some books. You need some knowledge and topics to talk about. Nobody likes guys dumb as rocks.

Third step is to stop being sperg. Do you have friends? No? Learn how to socialize at school or at work. Small talk, try to force yourself into normies lives. Ask them what they do at weekends and invite them to do something (cinema?).
http://www.improveyoursocialskills.com/conversation

And lastly, you have to have something going on in your life. Nice job, house, hobbies, studying anything so you have good answer to questions
>what do you do
>what do you want to be

And the most important step (but completelly useless if you are fat speglord neet) is to enter dating game.

As a boy, no girl ever will activelly try to date you. Equality my ass, only 10/10 chads are pursued by girls. For average dude that NEVER ever happens. YOU have to take your fat ass from bed and start chatting girls and ladies on dates. Online dating, social events, friends friends. You have to balance on edge being too needy and too cold for girl. Stop fapping and use your sexual frustration as motivation to get into their panties.

And if everything fails, realize that life is shit for majority and lower your standards. Majority of average dudes eventually find happiness. But outliners exists everywhete. Try your best.

>>18376250
Orly?

>>18376212
It's a start. Those sorts of beliefs are a basis for your character. And it's something you know you want to find in a woman, which is helpful when meeting and dating them. This isn't going to be a quick and easy process, you really have to put a lot of thought and effort into getting to know who you are and what you value in yourself. But it can be done. The only reason I'm able to give you this advice is because I know that it is something I am good at. I am confident in my ability to offer wisdom and assistance in whatever small ways I can here. That gives me self worth. Same with video games. I'm good at those, always have been. I went to college and have a degree in a field that interests me. I'm intelligent because I applied myself to my studies and the pursuit of knowledge and succeeded at it. I have a good sense of humor and know how to make people laugh. I know that if I set my mind to getting something done, I can accomplish it. I'm a strong person who overcame loss and it made me better than I was before. These are all things I know about myself and that make me who I am and I know that some women, the right women, will see all this and more in me and love me for it despite my flaws. I'm not super hot. I'm not rich and certainly never will be. I have no artistic talent. I can't sing well. I don't have a big dick. But who cares? Those things don't define me and I don't lead with them like a pity magnet, they're just skills or traits I lack. See how this works? Your belief in yourself has to be achieved through knowing what you can do, being assured you know how to do those things well, and it may well take a long time for you to truly find out what those things may be and to cultivate them as life skills. That is how confidence is formed. Nobody can give you a road map for that or tell you how to do it in more specific instructional terms becayse your path in life is your own to navigate and is not the same as mine or anyone else's.

>>18376279
can you translate this advice for a girl? what do guys want? im not fat just ugly so theres that

>>18376279
Okay. So far the only thing I can't fix is being infertile.

I'm in shape, I read books for fun and I'm writing one, too, I'm good with people despite of being weird.

I'm kinda living in squalor right now but I'm doing art on my free time so while the nursing gig isn't too glamorous, I might get shit published one day.

I'm a bit weirded out by you saying "boy", but you're right on that general account.

My standards aren't too high, I don't think. I just want a chubby girl with a cute face and a sensible personality who's not put off by anything in my life.

If it's a life partner you want, it's luck. Seriously. All you can do is improve your chances, and the more you go places the more chances you have to meet people. The whole "get fit and rich" meme will only get you the kind of girls that will later cheat on you and then you're right back on /adv/ crying about that and calling all women shit. Don't fall for that. There are basically two ways of getting a girl. Either go for the "self improvement" way and attract them by changing yourself and get some dumb slut for a while, or just get lucky and meet someone who is truly compatible with you and will love you genuinely, because of who you already are. I'm not saying don't put effort in anything, never shower or anything like that, and sure it's fine to try and improve your looks too if that's what makes you feel better, but if you just do what you love in life and find passion and drive, when you meet someone similar it'll just work. A good looking person will have better chances at scoring more girls, but not really much better chance of finding someone who truly loves them. Just see how many relationships end.

tl;dr: Decide what you want, and either set your goals to be able to attract pussy, or live your life and hope you meet someone truly compatible while doing so.

>>18376308
Easy. All men want more or less the same thing, a woman who can take care of his sexual, emotional, and spiritual needs. Give us sex, make us dinner, stay loyal and faithful, and just be there for us to lean on and trust to support us when things are bad. Maybe give us a kid or two.


As far as practical advice goes, maybe look into make up, clothing, and hair styles that will enhance your appearance. And put yourself out there. I guarantee you could get dates or sex from a huge number of guys on dating sites or at bars. You probably aren't that ugly, and even if you are there are surely still guys in your league.

>>18376243
That spacing. Oh god

>>18376309
>boy
I use that because it is easy to use english world.

Woman, women, man, men i never know which one is plular, you cant say man's and generally fuck that english word. I will gladly use word girl 100 times than woman. Feel bad man.

So what will you do? Will you finally start pirsuing girls like your life is dependant on it? Because
>>18376323
is partly right with the luck, but if you manage to go on date with 100 different girls, chances of one being qtie for you are high. Push your luck.

>>18376332
You have to go back too.

>>18376308
>girl
>ugly
I have yet to see genuiely ugly girl. I bet you are just another plain average jane insecure by her own body because TV is pushing slim anorectic girls and porn pushes super thicc super boobs silicone monsters.

Same question for you as that anon.
What have you done so far in order to get bf? And no, existing and allowing man whores to have casual sex with you doesnt count.

>>18376287
Okay, this is all sound and good and I appreciate you giving your time like this, but how do you translate your self-worth into confidence in dating?

I have no doubt of my ability to be a good person and an upstanding member of society. I can be kind, helpful, altruistic, patient and altogether an upstanding member of society, but that doesn't mean a girl would decide this is as good as it gets.

My mother is a fucking saint and would deserve all the good in the world but I'm still not holding any delusions that she'd ever find a man who'd take her.

>>18376338
i'm not doing anything. i dont have casual sex. too shy to initiate anything so yes, all i do is exist and hope for the best.

>>18376347
Confidence comes from self worth. It's a natural extension of it. It should just happen, so project it. Whatever talents you have, as in practical skills that can be shown off, should be milked for this purpose. Not for the sake of showing off (only young and stupid women mistake being a cocky dick for actual confidence but there is a fine line and feel free to cross it ever so slightly for emphasis), but for displaying the confidence inspired in you by those abilities. You said in a previous post you write and make art on the side. Lead with things like that! Women would love to know thst about you and see your passions expressed confidently through those talents you have cultivated. Once your a nurse, you will literally be surrounded by women. At least some of them will be attracted to your caring nature and skills related to that job as well, so embrace it. Not every woman is going to see your value, but the right one will if you allow yourself to display your true colors with pride and boldness.

>>18376360
I wont lie to you femanon. I am (was?) super shy guy too no matter how tough i act on /adv/. All girls i dated, i met through online dating. Behind screen i can act like boy with actuall balls and later drop spaghethi on 1st date. But that is fine, because the girls i usually pick up drops the spaghetti even harder than me so we sort of hang in there both being awkward.

And then later you suck her clit, she makes all kind of funny noises, trashes her body like awkward fish on land in your bed and we both enjoy our company just fine. Then you let her tell you how beautiful it was, she hugs you and in time you either break up because incompatibility or marry.

Only with time and practice you slowly grow up from that shyness perspective and learn how to enjoy yourself.

Try online dating, maybe let some sleazy dude use cum and dump tactics on you and look slowly and carefully around. Think twice before you reject somebody. Social events are also cool, but again, you most likely wont meet shy introvert there and even if you do, he will be afraid to even talk to you.

Without trying you wont find your husbando. That is for certain. Okcupid, tinder, grinder, meetme, eharmony, kik, whatever or just use google for your country.

Or ask your friends to set you up with sonebody. Works too.

>>18376360
Where do you live? I will happily have sex with you.

>>18376398
i only rejected a guy once. he was a literal chad and i was too suspicious he was either playing a joke on me, too good to be true, or would pump and dump thanks to 4chan memes. turns out he was a good guy and engaged now. we had a nice spark too. i dont know who to go for anymore. chad or shy guys?

>>18376400
>>18376360
See, this is your average dude you meet online. Hungry for sex, but in reality he wont see you more than walking vagina.

That is the hard part of dating for girls. You want something more than casual sex, majority of boys are immature children in adult horny bodies seeking pussy. Only minority of guys are looking for wife tier girl both online and offline.

Be careful femanon, dont catch aids and dont get raped. Nice guys are somewhere too, but you sort of need to dig them up.

T. Nice guy :-)

>>18376410
How about you go for whoever you feel attracted to on an individual basis, Chad or shy or anything in between. Only real way to find out what you like and want in a partner.

>>18376410
You cant expect /adv/ to tell you who to date. You have to know which dude gives you that feeling
>i want his babies

You wont know until you try.

>>18376415
i cant believe i let 4chan make a decision for me. he was the first and only guy to ever give me attention.
>>18376412
>nice guy
>T. Nice guy
thank you anon. no offense but what makes you different? these days everyone is playing the nice guy role until they get in bed with you. hard to tell now desu
>>18376417
i wanted his babies. i wanted 10, 20 of them. omg what did i do

>>18376412
White Knighting this girl won't get her to fuck you anon. In fact, statistically speaking, that guy bluntly asking her for sex out of the blue is more likely to get it from her than you.

>>18376436
leave him alone please. he is just trying to help me and provide advice. and he is likely on the other side of the country anyways. i would choose sex with him if i had the choice though

>>18376436
Yea i am well aware of that. Still kind of funny when you try to help sonebody, some other anon throws various memes at you. Thanks for (you) i guess.

>>18376430
>what makes you different
For example i am trying to give you advice with absolutely no profit for me. You dont have to trust me, but if you dont learn how to balance carefulness and trust, you will die alone. Better to try and fail, then give up ethernally.

So really, what does it matter you threw chad away. We all make mkstakes. I wasted so many opportunities to gain gfs in various stages of my life that in retrospect i feel like super stupid.

Learn from your mistakes and jump into dating game. Patience and a bit of luck are what it takes.

>>18376451
>i would sex him up
:-D
Dont lose hope femanon. No point crying over spilled milk. Make some online dating acc and try your luck. Or venture into social events and chat dudes there. If on the end of conversation they wont ask for your phone number, give it to them anyway. They may call or not. Dont worry about it and dont lose hope.

>>18376467
thanks anon :^) you give good advice. its just what i needed to hear. and i wont give up! i need to stop being so shy and scared. its been holding me back for years

>>18376139
Get rich bitch no body gives a fuck if you go bald

>>18376139

If you're that bad then you can only get a girlfriend who is that bad. This is the most basic of understandings.

Relationships are symbiotic and mutual and all but if you have five dollars you only get to buy something that's five dollars or less, buddy. It's not "How do I get a gf?" it's "How do I get a girl to pick me as her boyfriend?" and the way you describe yourself it sounds like the answer is "No one else is interested in her."