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/r9k/ and /pol/ infest my mind

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THose two boards have really fucked up my thought process because both boards are just so.. so fucking outspoken and have a weird way of sounding right when they are fucking wrong?

/pol/ is like always in my mind with this cuck shit.

>Oh you drive a automatic car? Thats cuck shit. Oh, you live in a studio apartment? Thats one step above a cuck shed.

Then /r9k/ is basically just throwing facts out like:

>Going after women first is a suicide mission because even though you are the aggressor, they can still just tell you to fuck off. You are literally at the mercy of women if you are trying to date them.

EVERYTHING IS FUCKED! I feel like these two boards have weird ways of wiggling themselves into your mind. How do I free myself?
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Get off 4chan
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>>18359674

Apply some logic you fucking cuck

Stick is great for open roads but shit in traffic

"facts"

Plenty of women want to get laid too
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>>18359674
who the fuck on /pol/ is talking about autotragic vs manual? or apartment sizes for that matter?
>though tbhfam manual is the shit and studio apartments are a scam.

/pol/ is always right, r9k is almost never right. right wing men love their women and most women really anyone on /pol/ preaching that women are evil are the r9k crossposting mgtows and they're wrong.

you need to lurk more, learn to identify people and where they came from. you need to see the nuances of the board culture. also /pol/ is nowhere near what it once was, keep that in mind.
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>>18359674

Already been said, but get off 4chan. Especially /r9k/. I can't speak for /pol/, I don't go there. But a couple of years back, I cut out /r9k/ and my life got markedly better. I stuck away from 4chan for a while, but came back for /co/ and /ck/. I've ventured back here, but I don't know that it's very healthy.

Get your mindset from the real world, not the Internet.
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>>18360254
>shit in traffic
hi, I DD a manual sports car with a racing performance clutch. not a problem at all. LOVE driving that car.
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>>18360263
/adv/ is shit and I'll be leaving for /pol/ when my ban is up. r9k is toxic af
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>>18359674
Studio apartments are pretty cucked desu, you can't even cook properly.
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>>18360264

What's more fun, though, traffic or an open road?
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>>18360293
traffic isn't fun in any vehicle. but it's not any harder in a manual. put it in the gear for the speed of traffic, clutch in clutch out when you need it. I hate traffic no matter what I'm driving.
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>>18360307

Traffic being more effort = less fun, fuck that
Glad it's awesome for you at all times though, but it isn't for everyone

Same thing for city driving

Pointless discussion though, an automatic car isn't "cuck" - someone else fucking your wife is
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>>18360313
true. definition of cuck is not driving an autotragic lol.

gotta say though, for manual cars... just so good. you need to hit that shift at just the right spot in a long corner, bam, done. need to downshift two gears to pass an unsafe driver on the freeway or btfo an asshole behind you, done, immediately. need to let someone know they're a prick but don't want to use the horn, put the clutch in and rev as you pass them. like, for whatever little effort I put in during traffic, owning a manual is so damn rewarding lol.
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>>18360336

Er, sure.

You're definitely the man.
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>>18359674
>have a weird way of sounding right when they are fucking wrong

Imlying /pol/ isn't always right, you cuck. Face the reality that frmo an absolutely objective standpoint your actions are not judged subjectively, especially if on a regular basis. Better yourself or go back to plebbit.
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>>18360263
>How did it get markedly better? Did you pass a job interview? Did a girl let you fuck her for free?

Because my life was shit before r9k, and felt completely isolated and unrelatable to any person I ever met. I also happened to suffer my worst rejection by a girl and then became so depressed that I looked on the internet for people who I can relate to and wouldn't automatically make fun of me as my"friends" did IRL. I still haven't found a gf, but I feel more calm and happy that there are people in a similar plight as me and have similar viewpoints.
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>>18360474
>I looked on the internet for people who I can relate to and wouldn't automatically make fun of me

That's the worst thing you can do. Instead of taking a short time to grieve over your girl you have migrated to a circlr of people with an unhealthy attitude which will not criticise the things you have to change to be a normal and happy member of society but do everything to NOT be seen as a normie.

Where normie friends will make fun of you, as a sign that X behaviour is not the right kind to vent your feeling, /r9k/ will pull you even deeper and make you believe that that behaviour is great and you'Re just missunderstood by your normie friends because they lack something. It'S typical sectarian tactics. I mean, it's obviously more comfy to be with people which will not critique you, but without it you will never grow. A man needs edged to overcome and become a better man. That's why hard times form good men, and good times form lazy men (which will create hard times).

Face your demons isntead of celebrating your failures. /r9k/ is cancer, or better said, Heroin. You fell happy there but day after day it ruins your life till the point comes where you can't come back and your life is ruined while /r9k/ will remain the only thing left.

/pol/ at least will build you back up again as a better man, after getting red and black pilled you realise what's really important in life and how to archive it. Sort yourself out.
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>>18360500
I didn't immediately go to r9k. I grieved and improved myself by finding more friends and working out. Then after a dozen more rejcetions I i was diagnosed with aspergers and knew that no matter what I did, no normie girl would ever respect me because of my nature.

My "friends" never gave solutions, all they did was humiliate me for my lack of success with girls ("Its just a joke bro" after that). When I asked what they thought my problem is they said that they don't know, that I just don't give a sexual vibe, or that Im dimwitted. Basically just insults and not and no advice. They just make fun of me for being me, no matter what I do. When a girl hugged me for the first time(after talking to her and thinking I was making progress) they immediately started bragging how they made out with a few girls last night to belittle any progress I had. Its not just them, every "friend" group I've been in did this to me.
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>>18360500
tl,dr, my unattractiveness and autism ruined my life, not r9k. If I hadn't found it, I'd probably be orbiting another girl while she fucked a different guy every week(me in high school). if I didn't find it, I would be a lonely depressed shutin feeling completely hated by the world.
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>>18359674
The first step is recognising that the problem is withing yourself. These boards never sounded right to me. It is you who was secretly having and repressing those kinds of thoughts even beforehand
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>>18360546
I have assburger as well. If you work on yourself you can act normie as fuck. It's just a matter of wanting. If you want to have a happy and normal life you will have to work for it. Learn how to act normie and how people work psychologically. Once you understand them you can foresee their behaviour and act like a normal person with normie patterns.

Sure, it's easier to be a NEET but that will not make you happy. Comfyness kills you deep inside. It makes you lazy and you will beginn to hate normies, the more you drift away.

/r9k/ is a hug box which is actually a gas chamber. You're dead inside before you realise that it's not warm and relaxing water coming down on you. You're lying to yourself and they will help you with denying reality.

I'm serious, you have to work on yourself. Being aspie doesn't mean you're mentally retarded. On the contrary, not using your "powers" is a disgusting waste.

Further info: My better half is also borderline asperger. You can find a good mate but only if you don't lay down and die on that god forsaken board.
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>>18360551
Lazy excuses. Get fit, get a fashion sense, get political motivation, learn normie psychology and human nature and for fucks sake stopp pitying yourself. It's no higher power denying you a happy life, but your own mentality.
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>>18360546
>My "friends" never gave solutions, all they did was humiliate me for my lack of success with girls
But the dark side of /pol9k/ is that their "advice" is just as tainted, useless, and designed to make you feel like shit about yourself.

It's basically just adapted PUA/MGTOW/MRA shit. It starts as advice to help you increase your confidence/fuck and chuck girls, then slowly becomes a toxic circlejerk where all it is is men cutting each other down.

Remember that Dave Chappelle bit about women's magazines?

>100 Ways to Please Your Man
>by Some Lady

That's fucking exactly what these men-only/red pill boards are. A bunch of men giving each other advice and bitching about women.

>women only love big dicks - if you have less than 7" you're fucked!
>women only love guys with money - if you make less than $200k a year you're fucked!
>women only love guys who drive a nice car - if you drive anything less than the latest model muscle car w/ stick you're fucked!
>women only love dudes with muscles - if you don't look like a bodybuilder you're fucked!

When literally none of this is true.

It's the male equivalent of reading nothing but Cosmo and Redbook and wondering why you can't get a fucking date.

Not to mention that at least every year or two one of these bros goes out and shoots up a playground, or blasts a food court at the local mall, or climbs a parking deck and shoots a judge.

These guys are fucking MISERABLE, and they'll do anything to take you down with them.

You want to be happy? You want to feel better about shit? You feel worse after reading these forums for a while?

DON'T FUCKING GO THERE.
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>>18360594
But this PUA shit is mostly on adv and leddit, and I don't believe the whole BS about big dicks and golddigging because I have "friends" that are the opposite of that and still have success with women. Besides those threads are bait threads. I nly go to r9k for rejection threads and employment failure threads. Not that they're common, r9k is normie and gay as fuck nowadays, you shoud glance at it and see.

>These guys are fucking MISERABLE, and they'll do anything to take you down with them.
My real life "friends" humiliate me in front of girls so they can come out as witty and charismatic, so no the problem is clearly not in r9k.

>You feel worse after reading these forums for a while?
I feel worse around normal people because they make fun of me, destroy any confidence I have.
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>>18360565
>It's just a matter of wanting.
I've wanted and tried for 6 years already. Managed to at least find friends, was many different friend groups, managed to hug a few girls, but I'm still miserable because in reality I have almost nothing in common with any person I know IRL and I've been the laughing stock in every friend group I've been. So no working towards a happy life makes me hate normies even more since they're the most boring, and cruel people around.

>Comfyness kills you deep inside. It makes you lazy and you will beginn to hate normies, the more you drift away.
I hated normies long before r9k
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>>18360628
>My real life "friends" humiliate me in front of girls so they can come out as witty and charismatic, so no the problem is clearly not in r9k.
The real problem aren't normies but your selection of "friends". Healthy relationships don't you use that way. You have to learn about human nature and how to socialise and change your friends. Find a hobby which you can do with new people, best would be something where you gain good skills or a better body.

>I feel worse around normal people because they make fun of me, destroy any confidence I have.
You feel worse around normies, because you start to believe that all "normal" people are like that. But the true is your friends are just shit. /r9k/ won't help you find better ones, they will simply shit all over any normie. As I said, they won't make you happy. They will only make you feel like you are right and don't need to change anything, destroying any change of making your life better.
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>>18360572
>get a fashion sense
Already got one
>get political motivation
I do plan on joining a party, yes
> learn normie psychology and human nature
not even normies understand it and they're doing just fine. There's no way to understand it, you "feel" it
>It's no higher power denying you a happy life, but your own mentality.
I never said there's a higher power, but simply rejection from girls and ridicule from normies
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>>18360628
>But this PUA shit is mostly on adv and leddit, and I don't believe the whole BS about big dicks and golddigging because I have "friends" that are the opposite of that and still have success with women. Besides those threads are bait threads. I nly go to r9k for rejection threads and employment failure threads. Not that they're common, r9k is normie and gay as fuck nowadays, you shoud glance at it and see.
Yeah, I'm 100% familiar with what /r9k/ is now. My point is more general.

You may think the PUA shit is mostly on /adv/ and Reddit, but as one of the (perhaps) few on this site old enough to remember when this whole shit sandwich first started, I can tell you right now that the PUA shit is a standard part of this way of thinking. If you're not super-familiar with everything that PUA entails, you may not see it. But those of us who know where this originated can recognize it, even when it's dressed up in different clothes.

>My real life "friends" humiliate me in front of girls so they can come out as witty and charismatic, so no the problem is clearly not in r9k.
Well, THAT problem may not be. But if you think /pol9k/ won't mock you just as hard for your success, or especially if you become successful enough to ever fall in love, you've got a nasty surprise waiting for you down the line.

Also, it sounds like you have shitty friends. So perhaps that's a big part of your problem right there. Why would you hang out with people who treat you like this?? Fix that shit, pardner.

>I feel worse around normal people because they make fun of me, destroy any confidence I have.
Most normal people aren't concerned enough about you to beat on you for having self-esteem, period. It sounds like your shit choice of "friends" is the real problem here, desu.
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>>18360633
>I've wanted and tried for 6 years already.
Implying 6 years of "trying" is neough. I had to learn for over a decade how people work and how to make them work in my favour. Now nobody even knows that I've got assburger. You don't really try, you want to give up and stay in your hug box because it's easier. You're a loser not because of mother nature but because you don't better yourself seriously.

> So no working towards a happy life makes me hate normies even more since they're the most boring, and cruel people around.
They are not, you're simply to lazy to learn to select the right kind of people and learn how they work so you blame the normies for not being aspie (thank /r9k/ for that attitude).

>I hated normies long before r9k
Because making yourself believe that you don't have any say in how your life goes and that everyone is bad and against you is the easy way out. Blaming others instead of oneself. You will get nowhere with taht mentality, only got more and more grudging and bitter. Your decision.
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>>18360641
>not even normies understand it and they're doing just fine. There's no way to understand it, you "feel" it
Humans are quite easy in most parts. You only have to learn social interaction basics and how your behaviour will make them percive you. You should also learn how to make it work for you. Check out business psychology hacks (like asking for a favour from random people, which will make them more prone to help you in the future because helping people makes them believe they are already friends). Shit like that.

We're not talking about psychoanalysis.
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>>18360637
>The real problem aren't normies but your selection of "friends".
But everyone in my school and neighbourhood treated me like this.
>Find a hobby which you can do with new people, best would be something where you gain good skills or a better body.

I find all normie hobbies incredibly boring and my hobbies are very unknown to them, let alone girls. I dislike playing sports(no, I'm not fat, I have a normal body but without abs).
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>>18359674
90% (fortunately not 100%) of the people on 4chan are lonely teenage dweebs who have never even spoken to a real live girl and know nothing about politics, economics or any worldly issues.

They act out their fear of women in "sour grapes" hatred and their ignorance and sense of impotence in world affairs by repeated brainless memes.

If you met these people in real life you wouldn't even consider respecting their opinions on anything, so why do you let yourself be impressed by them here?

(Fortunately there are some - that extra 10% - people on every 4chan board who are intelligent and do have intelligent things to say. You can always tell them from the trolls just by the way they express themselves. They are worth reading and considering, though even with them you must make your own decisions whether to agree.)
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>>18360659
>But everyone in my school and neighbourhood treated me like this.
Than move out or chat up some new friends in the next city. Everyone mobbed me in school till I learned that they are simply following human nature to segregate themselves from freaks. That's healthy human behaviour. You will have to work on not acting like one, which isn't as hard as it seems and learn new people to know which don't know your retarded past.

>I find all normie hobbies incredibly boring and my hobbies are very unknown to them, let alone girls. I dislike playing sports(no, I'm not fat, I have a normal body but without abs).

>gun shooting
>archery
>cycling
>charity
>...

You don't have to meet GIRLS. First of all you need fellow men to look and parote normie behaviour and get friends. Girls will come naturaly once you have friends and don't act like a robot.
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>>18360254
>shit in traffic
makes sense that a automatic cuckmobile is the most suitable for getting you to your wagecuck job.
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>>18359674
>>>18359674
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>Already been said, but get off 4chan. Especially /r9k/. I can't speak for /pol/, I don't go there. But a couple of years back, I cut out /r9k/ and my life got markedly better. I stuck away from 4chan for a while, but came back for /co/ and /ck/. I've ventured back here, but I don't know that it's very healthy.
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>Get your mindset from the real world, not the Internet.

Call me immature, but i feel as if you said "/co/ and /ck/" on purpose. Gave me a small kek
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>>18359674
You're conflating a lot of things OP, and you're not thinking clearly. Everyone has expressed this well.

I'd like to propose something though. The idea that "/pol/ is always right" has been around for a while, but I don't think I've ever seen it elaborated on. The reason this aphorism is held true is not because /pol/ has meme magic, but because 4chan's structure has a bias towards being open about opinions.

What you see on this site is pure, ubfiltered, raw humanity. The posts are what the people around you are really thinking about. The replies are what people wish they could say to you everytime you open your mouth. You post something, and people respond HONESTLY (yes, trolling is a form of honesty. It means that the person doesn't think something is worth taking seriously).

This means that a political board will have people posting their raw opinions. This is why "/pol/ is always right". There's nothing magic about it, it's not a magic 8ball. Ask them what next year's GDP will be, and you'll get answers spanning the whole spectrum from "don't care" to. "Very, very wrong". Ask them what they think about immigrants, or how people will vote, and you suddenly have a solid predictor.

The problem is that it became a victim of its own success. People who are used to social posturing (reddit) came into the site en masse, and now there's a glut of people who aren't being honest, and are just there to post stupid meme magic shit. The system only works when people are sharing their true feelings, and when a large portion of the userbase is effectively trolling and looking for cues on what to believe, you've effectively decalibrated the system that allowed you to make predictions in the first place. I believe that this is what people mean by "the new /pol/ is completely different from the old". A large portion of the userbase is now being dishonest.

I'd post about /r9k/, but I've hit the character limit.
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>>18359674
what you are witnessing is a very vague and somewhat honest attempt to regain the mental structures of old. From a time when men were strong, a time from imperialism, traditionalism, love for men and their virtues of hard work, honor and other things.

Look at pic related, its basically where your starting point is. The women, the media, the jews and the nu males have all put these bullshit things into your brain that make no sense and even shame your DNA and your own masculine brain. They all dont work.

You are living in the end stages of civilization and as such, this civilization is toxic to men as it is weak, feminized and even hateful of you.

The problem is that your consciousness is tied to your brain, and the rate of change is limited to trial and error, but also to the experiences of other anons who try to teach you. It takes time for your brain to take in all of this new information and to check it for errors as many in these attempts make mistakes.

It is a noble path however. I am somewhere near the end of it all, as an ultra fascist and I am finding fewer and fewer things still that I can learn from to make myself better. I even have a 40 hours job now. Dont smoke, dont drink, do sports and have healthy habits.

If you truly want to live and improve yourself you have no other choice but to walk upon this path as have many before you. And part of that means also finding out if you are strong enough to do so. Many wont even attempt to go outside, let alone even ditching things like weed and finding a job.
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>>18360845
>the Jews
I'm Jewish, what the fuck is your problem with me? I'm not part of some grand conspiracy, just an average Joe. How do you think you sound right now?
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>>18360878
why dont you make yourself as your forefathers and gas yourself you filthy kike.
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>>18360882
Why don't you fuck off back to the cancer you came from and stop shitting up the normal boards, you fascist scum of the earth.

>>>/pol/

Not even joking. GTFO.
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>>18360886
why dont you mind your fucking business and stop crying about everything that wants to remove you. You guys are horrible, terrible people and you should just accept that. I wasnt giving advice to you either. Srsly, what a bunch of attentionwhores you are. No wonder everyone hates you.
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>>18360878
>what the fuck is your problem with me?
I'm not >>18360845 but I can probably tell you what's wrong. When we are talking about jews, we aren't talking about every single jew out there. It's like talking about the fact that specific groups have higher or lower IQ, doesn't mean they are all like X.

Have you never asked yourself why jews have been expelled by EVERY nation in their history? While even in the bible jewish behaviour is disgusting and reflecting of the kike meme? If you say that your ingroup isn't like that you would need to say that everyone else is there to get you without any reason at all.

If you want to know more, read "Culture of Critique". Jewish traits are like the traits of any other human ingroup mostly inherited but that doesn't mena that you can't change them at all. It's like with muzzies. We don't hate them just because they're muzzies, but because their culture brings the worst in humans out. If kikes or muzzies would stopp acting like their memes there would not be a problem.

For further questions ask /pol/.
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>>18360882
Look at this shit op. Stop going to /pol/ before you become a racist edgelord like this guy.
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>>18360891
>Have you never asked yourself why jews have been expelled by EVERY nation in their history?
Jewish expulsions were due to the fact that they were a wealthy insular group that was easy to scapegoat due to anti-Semitism being written into the Bible. Additionally Jews werent barred from charging interest like Christians so you could rack up debt with Jewish banks then trump up some reason to expel them and now you don't have to pay back those loans, plus you can seize their assets while looking pious.
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>>18360896
Global rule 3
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>>18360904
>comes into a thread about real world advice about real world problems
>replies to a poster who gave that advice
>starts bitching because people dont like him

well gee, maybe you should just accept the fact that we dont like you and that you are not wanted here.
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>>18360888
Not a Jew, either. Also not >>18360895.

You are the minority, even on 4chan. Face it, shit-for-brains.
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>>18360908
Racism is against the rules, do you deny you're being racist?

Back to your containment board please.
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>>18360901
>Jewish expulsions were due to the fact that they were a wealthy insular group
Sure, that's all there is because there were no other rich groups or royalty out there. Funny how all those others didn't get persecuted but always an ingroup which has preyed on the outgroup while being parasitic. It's like saying women are being oppresed because men just are misogynistic out of vagina envy instead of accepting that there is no inherit hate but women simply deliver worse work than men due to biology.

The true isn't nice, my penis mutilated friend.
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>>18360891
>When we are talking about jews, we aren't talking about every single jew out there. It's like talking about the fact that specific groups have higher or lower IQ, doesn't mean they are all like X.
Oh Jesus. Are you fucking kidding me right now. This from the same group that screams itself into a ragefit passout every time someone dares to imply white people have ever done anything not-great. Giant yawn
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>>18360908
>we dont like you
>you are not wanted here
>literally being drowned out by a sea of negative comments

You're not fooling anyone, shitposter.
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>>18360913
Good god, you see, behaviour like that makes you being hated by others. It's always you and your victim card. Go let some rabbi shuck your baby boys dick and don't spam this thread.
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>>18360915
>everyone I don't like is always playing the victim card
>b-b-but it's all THE JOOOOS

It's especially funny bc I'm not even Jewish here. Just don't like racists shitting up my boards
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>>18360911
Look at the total user base of this site. This is not kikeville where your jewish rules apply. free speech is the sites rule and if a thing outside of a board is not needlessly being pushed off topic, then it does not really breach whatever rules there are. The fact is that I am not op, and that he asked for advice, and thus I used my white mans rules to give him that advice in the confines of what is normal. Yes that means that "Racism" is actually acceptable, this is not reddit.

It is you who suddenly started being butthurt, maybe you should leave. Last reply. Sage to not needlessly bump this thread.
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>>18360919
>>b-b-but it's all THE JOOOOS

It's not always the kikes. But when they are at fault they will be called out on it. So stopp shitposting and bitching about stuff you obviously don't understand. I tried explaining it in a friendly manner but you still can't let it go.
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>>18360912
The difference is they were a people without a homeland. When you're always a minority outgroup you're always in a position to be exploited and repressed at the whims of whoever actually controls that land. Before the creation of Israel what choice did they really have? That's a reason why so many Jews supported communism, since it sought to end the nationalist system which Jews had suffered from so harshly.
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>>18360923
There's nothing friendly or explanatory about your irrelevant, stupid, racist "explanations." You aren't fooling anyone.

I fucking hate when one /pol/lack comes to /adv/ and starts shitting up the board. Always around this time of the morning, too. Goddammit I wish you people would stay on your containment board.
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>>18360920
Go read global rule 3
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>>18360925
Stopp being a minority and integrate into the society you live in instead of being more against outgroup mariage than your random /pol/ack. Most european jews aren't even genetically that much different would it not be for incestious behaviour. It's a home made problem.

>That's a reason why so many Jews supported communism, since it sought to end the nationalist system which Jews had suffered from so harshly.

Yes, and through that they killed 200 MILLION europeans for their own gains. EVen Polish anti-nazis got killed as soon as the commies rolled over poland and most of those commies where jews.

And you wonder why antisemitism is so rampant when your ingroup does everything for their own gain without mercy?

> irrelevant, stupid, racist
Back to plebbit you go.
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>>18360933
>Stopp
Is this actually how you think this word is spelled?
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>>18360936
>what are non-native speakers?
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>>18360926
topics like this usually are a very fragile part of the ecosystem here, grey area in which the mods may decide to intervene or not.

But I get the feeling that we have more or less reached the threshold into acceptability as long as its not too overtly whatever /pol/ stuff is.

the fact is that the right way of thinking has helped many people, it has given great advice. From the ironpill. To more esoteric thinking. If you were to give advice, and it happens to be right wing, it doesnt unmake the advice. Avoiding toxic people, be they niggers or jews (who are more prone to violence and to other bad traits) is just as valid advice as it is to avoiding fatties as adviced on /fit/. Fatties, junkies, alcoholics etc.

People ask for partner advice too. And there is obviously also research that says that women who sleep with a lot of men are unstable. So thats right wing advice too.

basically nearly 90% of all advice given will eventually turn you into a right wing person. Not a single working solid piece of advice will tell you to stuff your butt with dildo's like the lefties will tell you.

So if a mod is looking over this sensitive topic, look over my ip's history, I also post on other boards, though these few days a bit less. All scientifically documented mostly as well.

Also, a good reason to avoid jews is because the jew is more prone to schizophrenia. Could dig up the link to that. They have many mental health issues that prevent them from being good friends.
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>>18360939
If you're going to be an anti-immigrant multiculti-is-bad shitposter on an English-speaking board, the least you can do is learn to spell a basic four-letter word correctly. Not at all swayed by this bullshit argument in this context.
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>>18360933
>200 million
Where are you getting this number? Are you saying that every single person who died of natural causes or not in a communist country was murdered by Jews? Whether or not there were even need in the country. That's a little ridiculous don't you think?

But as to your first point are you saying they should have become race traitors and abandoned their faith! Seems a bit hypocritical dont you think?
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>>18359674
I don't know much about politics so I won't comment too much on /pol/ (even though this applies too) but about /r9k/ and their views on women :

Keep in mind that most people on /r9k/ that talk down on women ("redpill") are frustrated guys who have little to no interactions with women. What they say might sound true because they write things in a way to make it sound true and do awful generalities ("all women are cheating whores !!!").

Here's an interesting thought : ask any guy that is actually successful with women (the so-called Chads they hate) and none of them think the same way as /r9k/ do. That's because Chads actually understand how women work.
Women are not that different from men. Yeah, some of them are assholes, just like men.

Don't go on /r9k/ and /pol/, they might be entertaining but in the end they're just shitholes filled with frustrated NEETs
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>>18360943
Getting butthurt about a spelling mistake in a complex conversation due to not being a native speaker is such a low hanging fruit. It really make you appear even less argumentative than you probably are.


>>18360944
>Where are you getting this number?
Black book of communism. The proven number is around 100 Million but considereing the times and how much we don't know about the missing people Solschenizyn on his "Gulag Archipelago" estimates it around 200.
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>>18360940
also to add to that post: I have to leave now for 8 hours. Cant reply but would love to give my treasure trove of self improvements here for a while.
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>>18360955
>Getting butthurt about a spelling mistake in a complex conversation due to not being a native speaker is such a low hanging fruit. It really make you appear even less argumentative than you probably are.
Not butthurt. Just not impressed/making fun of you. There's an important difference, namely that in the second scenario I don't give a single fuck about anything you have to say because it's absolute shit.
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>>18360944
> natural causes
Starving to death because the commies have stolen all the grain and animals from you for being a "filthy rich" farmer isn't a natural cause.

"Working to death" in a gulag or disappearing isn't either.

Also it were not all jews, but the ones in real political power were nearly all.
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>>18360959
> I don't give a single fuck about anything you have to say
>still replying

Pick one.
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>>18360961
Stalin and Mao were Jewish?

Please provide sources on your claim that 200 million people were intentionally killed by jewish controlled communist governments.
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>>18360963
Nah. I also don't go in for bullshit reductionist arguments like that. I reply for two reasons

>personal amusement
>to reaffirm to the rest of /adv/ that this kind of shitposting is not taken seriously here

You seriously overestimate your actual importance. It's kind of cute. Like, honestly, no one gives a shit about anything you have to say, we've all heard it a million times. You're not convincing anyone, and the few who are responding to you are mainly doing so for funsies/because you're stupid.
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>>18360968
>Stalin and Mao were Jewish?
I was speaking about the european antisemism (which was mostly jewish) and in another point about communism at all which has killed as much as stated. And if you see how many lives jews have on their hand due to such political tactics you should not be surprised that even poles, which have given them refuse for centuries don't give a shit about them anymore.

It's like getting a knife in your back after rescuing someone.
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>>18360977
>european antisemism (which was mostly jewish)
*European antisemitism which is due to their political involment
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>>18360969
>still replying to ze ebil nadsi
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>>18360989
>I don't actually read what's said to me
>take every reply as positive attention due to autism

Okay, friend. That's cool.
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You didn't bring any arguments but only showed off how much you thing you're superior to other posters and getting all plebbit because of some non-normie opinions.

Why don't you just stick to OPs question instead of making it your own crusade againt internet meanies? Most here don't care or get annoyed at shitposting and the other part probably even agrees with /pol/. If you can't handle mean words, seriously stick to facebook.

That's my advice and here's your (((you))).
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>>18361012
I don't argue with racists. I just make fun of them until they go away.

Also, you forgot your (You), but here's yours.
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>>18361020
>I don't argue
Indeed. That we can agree on. Have a nice day fellow (((citizen))).
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as you can see, this one thread became anoher "good argument" about jews. free yourself from this shit, op, you seem a nice person, im sorry that your friends aren't
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>>18360977
So you're just going to ignore that Stalin wasn't Jewish and still blame the Jews for his crimes? Your 200 million deaths line is an extremely gross exaggeration and most deaths from communism were in Asia yet you still blame Jews for it.

You're grasping at straws to justify your racism. Even if some communist leaders were Jewish so what? You think all the Jews got together and had a vote about it? You think people born decades after supposed crimes should be blamed and hated for it? That's no different from black people who blame all Whites for slavery. I take responsibility for my actions, not my race. Racism is fucking stupid.
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>>18359674
you're retarded. all /pol/ is, is about red pills. an automatic car? no one gives a shit u idiot, a studio apartment? No one gives a shit u idiot.

It's about nationalism, exposing the jews and leftists etc. you're a retard.

As goes for /r9k/ dont go on there.
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>>18361376
>exposing the jews
What did I do now?
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>>18360641

Are you that guy who made the /soc/ thread lol? How you doing?
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>>18360895

This.
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>>18361420

You seem to enjoy stirring up shit and arguing with people lol. Does it make you happy? Are you connecting with them? (same anon btw)
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>tfw /pol/ is a nsa influence programme designed to defang and splinter the spoooky anonymous, instigated after chanology and the other high profile raids.
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>>18361447
>mfw I forgot my face
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>>18359674

Are you a manchild? How old are you OP?
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>>18360273
/pol/ is one of the most toxic containment boards on 4chan.
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>>18360594
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>>18361569

Yeah, just visited. A big sausage cuckfest from all around the world lol. Kinda impressed, but not really. So many beta losers in one place.
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>>18360628
>But this PUA shit is mostly on adv and leddit
Thise are literally /r9k/ and /pol/ crossposters.

Those boards have tried to infiltrate /adv/ for a while with their toxic advise.
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>>18360955

if we used the same methedology that the BBC used to analyze how many deaths have been done by the hands of capitalism, you realize we trump that number by a fuck ton?

I mean, even *without* going the silly route that it calculates some deaths (okay there is 6 people in the USSR... 10 years pass, it's 1949... WHY IS THERE ONLY 9 PEOPLE WHEN OUR GUESTIMATES SAY THERE SHOULD BE 13? FUCKING COMMIES; aka, let's remove contextual information and events like WW2, how the famine actually hit central and southern Russia much harder than the Ukraine but let's ignore that and potray this as a planned famine c: ), capitalism in the modern world kills that many people in what, 20 years, just due to poverty related deaths.

desu the one thing that bothers me most about polacks as a grad /his/ kiddie is how badly they want to be seen as "the truth they don't want you to know" while simultaneously stepping on historical facts. lol.
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>>18361441
I simply prove that r9k hasn't isn't ruining my life
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A lot of what r9k says is true, you just have to learn how to weed out the bullshit. Dick size does matter, height does matter, money does matter! But just because you're lacking in a few of these areas doesnt mean its impossible to be successful, you're just at a disadvantage and will likely have to work much harder.

People either close their eyes to the truth, or give up in the face of it. Don't be an uninformed cuck just because you don't like what they have to say, but don't give up either just because life isn't fair.
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>>18360594
This guy knows it. Follow his advice.
>>18360628
>I feel worse around normal people because they make fun of me, destroy any confidence I have.

STP BEING A FUCKING FAGGOT HOLY SHIT BOOHOO MUH HURT FEELINGS BOOHOO
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>>18359674
If you dont want to be a lemmimg on there, just go onto the board knowing that these people are nothing like you and view all of their shit as a joke.
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>>18360500
This fucking faggot defending /pol/ like how a pimp defends a whore. Haha fucking pathetic.
Its even worse that you typed a fucking essay about how you drink from /pol/'s chubb you fucking autist.


Nothing is worse than hearing borderline facist redirict from a pile of betas, which is what encompases that site. And if you honestly think that that board makes you feel better, youre probably a fucking lemming along with the rest of them. That board will make stay up for nights worrying about nuclear holocost, jews, ww3, and a bunch of stupid shit thatll never happen. I used to be on there up to 2013 and it almost fucking ruined my life. When I finally left that shit I actually started getting a life and some pussy after so many years of wasting my life away on there.
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How is it even possible for people to seriously believe all the shit /pol/ says? The majority of their "red pills" are baseless, and the ones that aren't usually have questionable details.
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>>18362150
Good post.
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>>18362150
>animeposter
>defending /rbrtabitches9k/

Nah, go fuck yourself, loser.
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>>18362512
Disprove /r9k/ then. They're objectively right when it comes to women being monopolized by the genetically gifted. They're objectively right about the majority of your life being determined at birth by genetics, and that it is next to impossible to change.
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>>18360500
>>18360546
>>18360565
that is why you can better go to /fit/ and become a high natty test the hard way, while also going to /pol/ and heeding the advice well.

Look at pic related for example? You think that is a joke? Relationship quality and many other metrics like divorce rates are quantifiable traits, which knowing them will improve your chances for happiness.

If you skip in between the lefty shitposters, the newfags, and a few other bad apples, like the alt liters. Then you too may find many great things that will help you to improve yourself. Bit of a warning though: If you start to have proper work ethics, proper socialization standards and a few other things. You will naturally turn into a fascist, unironically even. I am one and its not a bad thing but your whole worldview will be warped. But as a result, you will be happier. Most men can also be competitive in many area's.

There are many bad things in life, the leftists will tell you not to avoid them to be happy. To let all the bad things be around you. But we will tell you to remove the bad things, and to only let the good things in.
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>>18362551

>They're objectively right

>objectively
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>>18362551
Oh fuck off, faggot. You and your kind only want excuses to keep being pieces of shit. You're at the bottom of everything, have nothing of value (no personality, no real intelligence, etc) and think the world owes you something and make no effort to improve from your worthlessness.

tl;dr the world owes you nothing, you're all bottom of the barrel, make no effort to reach the top or even halfway and cry because your betters (literally everyone else) make the effort to improve
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>>18362587
>All available data on dating habits suggests there is a small pool of men monopolizing a large pool of women
>Halo effect establishes that your appearance is so important that people literally think you are more credible, morally sound, and intelligent just for being attractive
>Socioeconomic mobility in the USA is pitifully low and you're much, much more likely to make as much or less than your parents than you are to make even slightly more
Seems like they're pretty on the nose with this.
>>18362588
>Didn't address anything in the post
Look at all that projection.
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>>18359674
they're intensely negative and they have their own distorted group-think collective lens.

honestly out of all of the boards on 4chan, I think /pol/ and /r9k/ are the most classically "mentally ill"
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>>18362602

>honestly out of all of the boards on 4chan, I think /pol/ and /r9k/ are the most classically "mentally ill"
I agree with you, anon. A sausage fest of dim wits from all around the world lol.
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>>18362599
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>>18362609

Basically, this. Beta breeding grounds.
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>>18362615
>>18362609
>beta breeding grounds

kek

dont lump /pol/ into r9k's decrepit pool. We are better than all of you combined. At least the best members of us.
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>>18362630

>We are better than all of you combined. At least the best members of us.

I'm not intimately familiar with the /pol/ ideology but don't you think having crippling autism and chronic mental illness pretty much disqualifies you guys from being the "master race"?
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>>18362650
Who says that we do? I am pretty sure that most of the board is now shaming the previous neet culture, shaping it into something better still.

Its not like we can count on you dumb normies to help us. All you say is wrong and does the opposite of helping. Slowly we made a stable base that does not hate women, that identifies problems, that helps to fix problems still. Sure there are many men who still are whiny bitches and also horrible people. But they are coming from your left side. Like horribly shapen clay and we have the arduous task of reshaping them into something normal again.

Ironpill came out of /pol/, people help eachother in all sorts of advice in life. Its not a bad place at all. It more or less is the vanguard of the word truth on this planet. The uncompromising truth. With all the "ugliness" and grandeur that it brings with it. What you may perceive as "autism" is actually just having the ability to resist jewish programming.
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>>18360594
>It's the male equivalent of reading nothing but Cosmo and Redbook and wondering why you can't get a fucking date.
There's no such equivalent to that. There's no such thing as a woman who can't get a date. And those "bad female sites" don't do anything but encourage women. Telling them they're the greatest thing in the world and deserve whatever they want and any man who can't or doesn't want to give it to them isn't good enough for HER.
>You can be 300 lbs and have no job but you DESERVE a 6'8 body-builder-billionare and NO ONE can tell you otherwise YOU GO GIRL.
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>>18362614
Another non-argument. Lmao.
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>>18362588
You realize lashing out and just trying to silence "worthless males" is just proving him right don't you?
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>>18362670

>It more or less is the vanguard of the word truth on this planet. The uncompromising truth.

You know, now that you mention it I heard a very similar mission statement from a cult in Utah that only eats blueberry waffles and believes their genitals are genetic curses from space aliens.

>What you may perceive as "autism" is actually just having the ability to resist jewish programming.

Nah, thats still just autism. I will hand it to you though, if I were a much, much, much stupider person that silly little speech you gave might have been pretty convincing. Good luck with your club, I guess.
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>>18362714
what?

Scientific truth

http://pastebin.com/4qDqptnR

The chart on female sexuality and the amount of partners is also very verifiable. Women who sleep around a lot are a lot less stable mentally. The bonding process gets destroyed more or less.

You also dont really differentiate me from the r9k fags who hate on women without reason. I took a different path, that of self improvement, even "cocoon mode" abstained from vices, gained good work ethics. Am not a neet.

There is a silver lining to all of this that is rising, there are many more who by following the fascism path, will come out the same way. First by fixing ourselves out of leftism, and then searching for a female that is also fixable or already fixed (like religious ones)

You on the left side have no idea how far into insanity ville you are.
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>>18362693

My favorite thing on the planet is when you /r9k/ fools make up a bunch of presumptious horseshit based on anecdotal evidence, psuedoscience and memes then try to act all high and might when we don't produce what you deem an acceptable "argument".

Think of it like this; when my 2 1/2 year old cries because she thinks her shadow is a monster chasing her I don't "argue" with her. I pop a binkie in her mouth and put the little bastard to bed.

"Arguing" with you about second-hand, meme-based pseudoscience and teenage virgin propaganda you just pulled out of your ass is about as productive as that argument with my daughter; it also puts an unfair burden on everyone else to prove you wrong instead of you proving yourself right. That isn't how logic works.

You don't get to make a bunch of shit up and then demand that we provide hard evidence that you're wrong. My point is, someone needs to give a binkie and send you to bed because arguing with children accomplishes nothing.
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>>18362734
to add to that post: here is a slight hint as to where you started. Where you are right now. And who you are "mocking", pic related.

If you studied history well enough, you would realize that we are living in quite a weird time. The traditionalism, fascism, or nationalism are natural states of men to be in. You are the freak here.
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>>18362742
>trying to shame people into silence is literally the only way I know how to deal with things I don't. Now shut up and stop questioning what you're told.

Not an argument. Why are you so anti-intellectual? Do you participate in regular book burnings too?
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>>18362762
>not an argument
Not a valid response. Now answer directly.
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>>18362766
You didn't ask a question. You just said anyone who doesn't agree with you is a baby that doesn't deserve to speak and that you aren't going to argue with them because you're obviously right but aren't going to say why.

In fact I don't see a single question mark in any of your posts. You've done nothing but insult him and me, screaming that you're right but saying you don't have to explain why. So what am I suppose to answer exactly?
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>>18362742
>Anecdotal evidence
Statistics are not anecdotal.
>Pseudoscience
Non-argument and wrong. Statistics are not pseudoscience.
>Memes
Irrelevant.
>An acceptable argument
Insults and *le tips fedora* tier posts are not arguments.
>Anecdotal story about daughter
Ironic and hilarious.
>All those buzzwords
Not an argument.
>Make a bunch of shit up
I didn't make anything up.

Zero arguments to be found in that wall of text. Is recognizing reality a problem for you, or do you regularly ignore facts and science that bothers you?
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>>18362766
nobody is going to spoonfeed the basics to you. There are those who have been doing this for over 5 years. From the basics like the bellcurve, to things like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OwV-zfbHoY
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11261872/James-Watson-selling-Nobel-prize-because-no-one-wants-to-admit-I-exist.html

the racial science has been proven time and time again, sources were not debunked. They kept being valid. The minnesota transracial adoption study is also to note. There are many pieces of evidence for all of this.

and none of them are "pseudo", the crime rates, the obesity per race rates, the africans themselves, the fact that they had no language, nor words for past and present...

All these things add up and support the IQ thing. The whole racial realism.

You get only one post for me, for the rest I would direct you to /pol/

and my pastebin of course.

I think at this point I have rebuted someone who is exactly like you, who was programmed exactly like you a couple of thousand times now, with exactly the same response that will now follow. Kek
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>>18362734

Your tired old grandstanding about saving yourself from terrible liberals and how being a useless, racist, misogynist hunk of shit is your most "natural" state is as old as time itself. Its boring. Its played out. Its not new or revolutionary. Its not even more convincing. You're just a different incantation of the same old intolerant, ignorant club of assholes that history has been collectively stamping out for hundreds of years. Just the same old propaganda; the same old tag lines. Its honestly more boring than anything else.

So, anyways. Good luck with your autism support group. That cult in Utah I talked about probably still has some openings if the bottom of your fragile ego falls out and you desperately need another toxic ideology to fill the void in your soul.
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>>18361569
Not him, but I disagree. With /pol/ you have many different viewpoints, and personally I am quite right-wing on a lot of issues. /pol/ is less personal most of the time. While people there might be wrong and crazy there they're in the minority.

/r9k/ however is just a cesspool. It's just stream after stream of garbage, the very worst of modern culture. And whatever isn't nonsense is a complete waste of time. The most wrong advice, most stupid things to be worried about, most timewasting discussion. Toxic is exactly the right word for that place because the more you try to talk sense to people there the more they tear you down and infest you, eating away at you. At least with /pol/ there's the possibility of getting into intelligent discussion.
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>>18362785
Do you know how many times the cycle has been repeated by now? We even had notations of "feminists" in the middle ages. There were mini cycles of "independent women" a couple of times now.

and do you know what that has created? Only suffering. Its more or less an evolutionary dead end. The whole culmination of the biological self and all his complexity make it so that just as a fungus cannot thrive in certain environments, no matter what, if the ph value is too bad for it, for several millions of years. So too the r selected evolutionary path in humans does not work, and probably never will. It will never be sustainable.

and your little screams that will echo into time, will join those of the other failures of women and weak men of the past times. You will never even enter the grande history books, barely even a footnote. Only the strong and valiant of the previous cycles were remembered.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8N3FF_3KvU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca8CpIFb0_E
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>>18362762
>>18362780

If someone can explain to me how you formulate an argument against a bunch of made up meme-statistics and pseudoscience I'd love to take a whack at it.

The inherent flaw is you use confirmation bias to cherry pick "statistics" and "studies" that prove you're correct, ignore every bit of evidence that contradicts you and then demand that everyone else prove you wrong instead of you proving yourself right.

You purposefully establish your argument in a way that makes it impossible for anyone to logically respond and then use that lack of logical response as proof for why you're right.

Its the equivalent to me saying "Radioactive unicorns live inside of the moon", provide no objective, tangible evidence to support my claim and then claim that your inability to provide me with a scientific study that PROVES there are no unicorns inside the moon means I'm right.

This endless loop of mental gymnastics is how you cock-gobblers have managed to stay in relevance on this website for as long as you have.

>>18362782

More confirmation bias. The actual scientific basis for establishing and proving a hypothesis is not merely cherry picking the evidence that proves what you believe correct and excluding the evidence that contradicts you. Anyone can find a study that supports what they already believe to be true. Any handful of studies can say anything.

For every study you posted there is another one that provides a drastically different or contradictory result but again, you don't include those. You just have your handful of go-to statistics that you think proves something. You ignore causation vs. correlation. Scientifically, a handful of social studies is not proof of a hypothesis being correct. There are millions of variables not taken into account in these studies but you ignore them because they don't support your argument.

Manipulating the rules of science and logic to fit your narrative isn't proof, its just propaganda.
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>>18362825
We already know your type, but for those on the outside reading it let me fill you in

>quality of life
directly related to the white mans ability, pic related
>civilization, the ability to create and maintain one
heavily tied to intelligence as well

intelligence is subdivided, emotional, but also verbal. Niggers for example are terrible at everything. They didnt even have a written language.

Then you add crime statistics, the jobs that people have, the things that people do (like being on wellfare) start to tie in into other variables and you get a whole picture of data and statistics, that is accurate (gov data added as well) and wholesome, it more or less is a complete undeniable description of reality.

if you werent a jew shill you would recognize the fact, but like I said, we know your type well, its ignoring, cherry picking a single line from a grande argument and then even doing that wrong.
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>>18362841
and again, we all know why. kek, pic related.

no matter how assblasted you get, and how terrible you look to the outsiders, you keep on going with the old method. Hoping that it will still fool some people by the only virtue remaining, that you are saying something instead of being silent.

an unaware evolutionary trait I am sure. A non conscious, animalistic instinct which desires to not be eradicated, which is used after the long line of lies, and (((logic))) has been exhausted.
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>>18362825
If the studies and statistics we post are all apparently cherrypicked and biased why can't you post any of your own that say otherwise? If you're so adamant that what you believe is true then there should be far more available sources for you than us.

Yet you share none. You instead focus exclusively on personal insults against us and saying our evidence is wrong because you say it's wrong.

So to answer your request.
>If someone can explain to me how you formulate an argument against a bunch of made up meme-statistics and pseudoscience I'd love to take a whack at it.
It's extremely simple, post your own proof. Post your own studies and statistics that prove us wrong, instead of insulting us.

Please note, if your answer to this is "I don't have time to spoonfeed you obvious truths look them up yourself" you are admitting you have no sources and speak exclusively out your ass. That you are the one who ignores evidence of things you don't like and does not understand basic logic.
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>>18362825
>how you formulate an argument
well, first you have to stop dismissing evidence because you don't like. that means stop doing this:
>made up meme-statistics and pseudoscience
>ignore every bit of evidence that contradicts you
you have not posted any, nor made any real arguments, so there is nothing to ignore.
>You purposefully establish your argument in a way that makes it impossible for anyone to logically respond
you are fully capable of finding evidence, assuming it exists, to support your claims that a small fraction of men do not monopolize a large fraction of women, that the Halo Effect does not actually exist, and that socioeconomic mobility in the United States is not pitiful.
>Its the equivalent to me saying "Radioactive unicorns live inside of the moon"
no it isn't.
As you can see here: https://theblog.okcupid.com/your-looks-and-your-inbox-8715c0f1561e women rate 80% of men as below average.
As you can see here: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1607.01952.pdf women are extremely selective in matching on Tinder and tend to only go for the same small group of men every other woman does.
Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect is an explanation of the Halo Effect.
And here: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2016/07/social-mobility-america/491240/ is proof that the United States has piss poor social mobility.

It seems like this data suggests that most of the important factors in your life are decided at birth, and are relatively immutable.
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>>18362882
>>18362859
not the lefty you are replying to, I am the guy posting the pics. But, I think the jew gave up. Have a nice night all.

or maybe he will try to come up with another shortcut. They sure love shortcuts, even in the eyes of god. Always the shortcuts, always cheating something. If its christians then its their god, if its science then its the greek/roman philosophical methodology. If they are given work, then its something there. Always cheating, always shortcuts, jesus, what a despicable people they are.
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>>18362565
>>18362782
>>18362841
Statistics was a mistake.
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>>18360546
>i was diagnosed with aspergers and knew that no matter what I did, no normie girl would ever respect me because of my nature.

Fellow aspie here. The solution to this is to not deal with normie girls. I've had several girlfriends, all of whom had some sort of mental disorder or another, and they were much more understanding and accepting of my difficulties, and could relate to me better because they shared a good deal of them.

Though I'll also admit I have really weird luck. I actually met my girlfriend of over a year on /r9k/.
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>>18362914
Well hopefully OP watched our little exchange and was able to see for himself the difference in the intellectual capacity of the different sides. How allegedly stupid illogical /r9k/ and /pol/ were the rational, logical ones with real evidence and the supposedly smart normalfags could do nothing but screech in anger and tell us to stop talking.
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>>18362882
Supposing one were to buy in to these arguments, how exactly do you proceed from there? You make it sound like the only recourse is an hero'ing out.
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>>18363035
>how exactly do you proceed from there?
do whatever you think makes the most sense for you. that might be suicide, trying desperately to overcome those genetic/birth failures through surgery or otherwise mitigating them, become a betabux, tip your fedora and "MGTOW," drop 3DPD for 2D, hope for your unicorn woman that doesn't suffer from the standard issues as well as not being crazy, whatever.

/r9k/ does like to look for ways to absolve themselves of responsibility, but they are right about plenty of things. no one reasonable, when confronted with the facts like that, is going to judge you for giving up on life and becoming a NEET if you are a short, ugly, stupid, mentally ill poorfag.
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>>18363035
Stop caring about women. Do whatever makes you happy.

If you can't suppress the need for female interaction get an anime waifu.
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>>18363053
You don't need women to be happy. If you're truly fucked when it comes to finding a partner then focus on other things. Becoming a NEET is giving up on life unless you want more time for creative pursuits.
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>>18363065
>Becoming a NEET is giving up on life
there's nothing wrong with that.
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>>18363067
There is if you could do better and be happier.
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>>18363072
>could
nearly everyone "could" do better. the question is how much effort it takes to reach the same level as someone else. if you're fucked from the beginning, it's probably not worth the tremendous effort you have to make just to reach the baseline for others.
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>>18363076
Exactly. The thing is going NEET should be a last resort. Once you start the NEET life it's incredibly difficult to ever dig yourself out. It's nothing but base level comfort and that's extremely addicting. If your NEET bucks run out you'll have nowhere to go and be ever more at a disadvantage. It is not an option that should be taken lightly and in the end suits few that aren't the elite in autism and incompetence. Staying inside and giving up on the outside world is not fulfilling and gets tired very quickly.
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>>18363053
>>18363061
Consider my interest piqued. Do either of you have personal ideologies that you follow? I myself am not actually all that obsessed with women/finding a romantic partner, but the idea of a "stacked game" is something I've contemplated. It's not even so much that I feel like it's impossible for me to succeed, I just don't understand how anybody can believe that it's worth it, given the material and ideological sacrifices you have to make. But at the same time, the idea of becoming a reclusive monk with a fu manchu moustache who laughs at silly white girls who don't know the difference between chinese and japanese appeals to me either. It's maddening.
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>>18359674
>caring where people live

Where the fuck else are poorfags supposed to live???
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>>18363099
Just learn to not give a fuck. Nothing matters. Everything society will try to tell you to care about and do is unfair bullshit that they know you won't succeed at but want to force you to do anyways for their benefit. If they judge you it's just them trying to shame you into doing what they want so they can use you like a tool, just like you saw that guy do earlier in this thread.

Do whatever you enjoy without a care of being judged.
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>>18363098
That's it, it's a last resort. Being a NEET noone can stop you from having fun and reading plenty of stuff, developing your mind even. You could be an activist or write articles (even if not many people read them), and lead a meaningful life. However it's the financial and social aspects of it that suck, I don't even care about money but in this volatile world as a NEET they could take everything from you. You'll also be screwed when it comes to medical bills, but NEET could for sure be a rational choice if dead-end horrible jobs you hate are the only alternative.
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>>18363155
>Being a NEET noone can stop you from having fun and reading plenty of stuff, developing your mind even. You could be an activist or write articles (even if not many people read them), and lead a meaningful life.
Very few NEETs do this or lead what we would call a meaningful life though. The one's that I see posting on this site anyway.
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>>18363141
I guess my problem is that I don't know how to appreciate "the little things." I've always been attracted to large, complex problems. I don't know how I could find satisfaction just living a quiet life away from society.
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>>18363352
So tackle them then. I don't see the problem unless the large problem is getting a 10/10 gf and becoming a millionaire.
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>>18363400
All the large problems of our day require insane amounts of knowledge, resources and manpower to even be able to think about solving. Unless you're talking about one of those masturbatory academic "problems" it's laughable that a lone actor could even begin to do anything
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>>18363439
What the fuck are you talking about? There's an enormous leap between giving in to a life of small pleasures and throwing your life at an unsolvable and multi faceted conundrum like world poverty. You don't need to end cancer to be a small part in helping develop or implement its treatments for example. Don't ascribe your own pathetic justifications for mediocrity to someone else.
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>>18363480
The whole point of this conversation was breaking away from societal expectations and norms, yet to do what you suggest("[being] a small part in helping develop or implement its treatments"), you'd absolutely have to do all kinds of hoop jumping and song-and-dance routines.
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>>18363510
I hope you're not the same poster as before because that's completely different from what you were saying prior.

Read what the anon I was replying to said. He explicitly expressed an interest in working on "large, complex problems". There is zero of that kind of fulfillment in wholesale rejection of society especially when you consider that most of the argument for NEET/monk hood ITT is based on women and marriage being an non beneficial investment for the average man. He can perfectly well choose to ignore women and still work towards what makes him feel fulfilled though I'd like more insight on what exactly makes him doubt participating.
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>>18359674
R9K has some truth in it, but that truth is overshadowed by all the BS.
As long as you do select your partners carefully and not marry/ only with a good prenup in case you have to for religious reasons, you are good to go.

POL is even more BS.
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>>18360546
So you hat shit "friends" who only were acquaintances that used you to boost their own ego and traded them for shit online "friends" that aren't friends cause they are a changing online audience that is only bound together by using you to boost their ego by keeping you as low as they are by attacking you for reaching improvement or success.

Good job.
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>>18363542
I am the same person. I'm aware that most of the /r9k/ rhetoric, which is what this thread is about, centers on women, but I came into the thread out of curiosity and found some of the arguments to resonate with some of the things I've felt about society. Namely, that a large part of what contributes to material success has more to do with being able to politick effectively rather than possessing any kind of merit. Speaking more practically, what this means is that even if I were to pursue a cure for cancer, to use your example, most of my time would be consumed by upholding institutionalized ideas and placating my benefactors rather than doing any actual interesting work.

Perhaps that's an oversimplified, and, well, bitter(to put it bluntly) way of looking at it, but I've been punished too many times for unconventional thinking -- and seen too many succeed simply by upholding the status quo -- to not feel that way. And yeah, there's a good possibility that I'm not actually all that clever and nobody owes it to me to listen to my "groundbreaking" ideas. But in the end that just reinforces the idea that nonparticipation is probably the correct course of action. My problem is that I can tell myself these things, but I can't feel them; can't commit. I FEEL like I want to be out there, doing things, but every time I sit down and THINK about it, it doesn't really make sense. So forgive me if in my turmoil I occasionally post a self-pitying, tangential rant on a latvian qigong board.
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>>18363716
It happens. Hope you can find some work that appreciates and makes use of you and your skills. It's definitely hard to find a good job in a desirable field in today's economy. Never mind actually hoping and praying for some sort of job security. Best of luck to you and me.
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>>18359674
why dont you read a book made by a woman on how to get a girl? men have all kinds of shit media spewing out giving a false sense of women. thats why youre still single.
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>>18363777
If you wanted to catch a fish who would you ask for advice from, a fisherman or a fish?

Taking women's advice on how to get women is the worst thing you could possibly do. Women don't know what they want. They'll feed you a bunch of bullshit that they think they'd want a guy to do, but if one actually did she'd dry up like a desert.

What they want is excitement, spontaneousness, unpredictability, and to be lead around and dominated. By the definitions of those words a man can't give her those things if he's just doing what she asks him to do.
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>>18359674
It's because they're speaking the truth, and THAT is the part that's hard for you to accept. It's not what they're saying, nor how.

You must wrestle with your insecurities. Accept the reality of women, and love them. You don't expect your dog to be equal to you, but you still love him right? Women are different. yeah, and in someways painfully so. But they are women and they belong to us. Ours to love.

/pol/ is similarly touching on your insecurities. You mentioned the "cuck" catchphrase. It's probably because you DO identify with it. Obviously not by literally letting another guy fuck your gf... but perhaps more metaphorically. Would you join the military, even if your nation is 40% immigrants? Well that is what a Swedish man might have to accept. If he wants to save his land, culture, and people he is a "cuck" in a metaphorical sense by also defending people from other cultures, races, etc, because they all live inside and benefit from his land and military service.

Learn introspection and wrestle with your insecurities. Learn acceptance. Then you will never be bothered by these thoughts again.

>>18360254
Stick is most fun in traffic and hills. If you're the kind of person who says that, then you probably don't truly enjoy driving stick.

Also driving stick has nothing to do with "cuck" afaik. It's just damn more fun to drive.
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>>18359674
/pol/ is always right
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>>18360910
No he's not ;-)
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Posts like this pretty much confirm my belief that in 20 years time a lot of people here will be having mental breakdowns cause they'll realize they spent too much of their youth spouting nonsensical forced nonsense to faceless zombies and blaming others for their failures instead of living their own lives.

It's already started to happen
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>>18362701
He hasn't proved him right. /r9k/turds and polturds are content with being lazy in life cause they think it's rigged against them.
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>>18364287
>implying it isn't rigged
Just look at how aggressively normalfags try to shut someone down when they speak up.

People don't get that incredulous at lies. Only at truths they don't want exposed.
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>>18364281
>implying they aren't already having mental breakdowns now

In 20 years civilization will be collapsed and they'll be leading LARP-reichs fighting over the dregs.
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>>18362630
summerfags in full swing today.
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>>18362734
The day your shitty fascism rises will be the day that the right will forever be cucked.

Honestly get the fuck out of this board. You're like a /pol/ appetizer. You sound like a fucking sperg talking about the rise of fascism or whatever the fuck you've been babbling about. It's honestly too long and contrived for anyone here to talk about. Go back to your fucking pit and wallow with the other racists.
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>>18365173
You know, to make a good meme you need to actually catch the mindset of your opponent for it to be effective. Considering that lefties don't even understand their own ideology it's no wonder why your artistic displays suck.
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>/pol is one guy
>/r9k/ is one boy
>letting yourself be influenced by shit that makes no sense

she 'dittors saying pol is bad never actually went to pol, but you shouldn't take anything in the internet as gospel, from anywhere actually

you need to stop with this attitude, talk to your dad or grandpa about shit, they have much more experience and can actually help you out much more
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>>18360238
Test
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>>18361020
Kill yourself
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>>18362150
Seconded
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>>18366093
>talk to your dad or grandpa about shit, they have much more experience
Experience with an old dead world that doesn't matter any more.
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/fit/ is easily the most toxic board, followed by /r9k/, then /adv/, then /pol/, if you are unable to think for yourself like OP. The first three boards are just pure negativity.
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>>18359674
You're only at their mercy if you choose to act like you are. Act like a infallible confident dick.

/pol/ is always right but I never go there.
/r9k/ was okay (before all the faggots) if you didn't take any of what they were saying about women seriously (which you were).
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Everything /r9k/ says about women is true though.
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>>18359674
the force is weak with this one
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>>18359674
>have a weird way of sounding right when they are fucking wrong?

That's assuming they're wrong.
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>>18360919
Just because you choose to ignore something that's out there doesn't make it cease to be. This is like adult live action peak-a-boo. We learned these concepts as children, now figure it out
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>>18361391
>can't speak about a demographic because of literally one person who doesn't fit in
nice strawman
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>>18359674
To be honest I've been posting on 4chan since 2005. To me /r9k/ and /pol/ are both the newfag boards. They don't really know shit, because newfags never know shit.

Right now what you have is what I call "internet brain" and it's when you're so fucked up on internet memes that it also fucks you up IRL. Internet shit should only stay on the internet, which is a core thing ALL newfags forget. So the best way to cure it is to 1) truly see /r9k/ and /pol/ underage shitters and newfags for whom they really are, and 2) remember you're better than that, newfags are always wrong, and thus and you shouldn't listen to them. Ever.

Also this here >>18360660 that person has been online long enough to get it.
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>>18360439
>from an objective standpoint your actions are not judged subjectively
Oh wow. Much insight. So enlighten
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