Cheating

I'm sad to say today I've cheated on boyfriends before.
It's because you don't love them anymore, and you keep lying to yourself and to him that you do.

>>18349431
Hot did he eat you out after

>>18349431
how long can a woman keep lying to herself to stay in the relationship? Does she eventually realize and break up or can it last forever.

>>18349420
Same thing that goes through a man's head when he cheats.

>>18349420
i've cheated on a girlfriend a couple times before. it was a great relationship too, lasted three years and ended relatively amicably.

it happened because I was/am insanely insecure

>>18349431
>tfw had a girl do this
>cheats, pretty good excuse, she was drunk and young and emotionally unstable (knew what I was getting into), my older friend got her absolutely sauced and told her she was my side bitch, convinced her to fuck him
>we get past it
>on-off relationship
>eventually breaks up with me, next day fucks her ex
>I get her back
>on-off again, eventually lose her pretty much forever (with a few exceptions)
>later figure out it just "wasn't there" with me
>she lied to me and herself, put me through hell and dropped me like I was nothing, like she didn't owe me shit
>tfw still not over it

>>18349465
Stupid and horney, got it. Don't date a stupid person.

>>18349497

See I think girls need to have like 2 guys they bounce between. Like when she gets tired of one, she should get with the other. And they shouldn't be concerned if the other is seeing someone likewise.

Sex conjures feelings, as long as you're secure with that person not (denying themselves) to you then is it all that bad?

>>18349700
Not that anon but to me absolutely. I'm a man and I'm 100% monogamous and I have a partner who is the same. I cannot wrap my head around people who are ok with such things as non monogamy and polygamous what have you relationships. I don't hate them but it's anathema to me and makes me feel sick inside. It stands against everything I feel and believe.

I have been married for close to 15 years now and not once have I cheated she hasn't either. I don't even have the desire to cheat. Maybe people who don't think with their dick or vagina is in short supply but I'm glad I found one and she found me.

>>18349420
>What goes through the mind of a woman when she cheats on her boyfriend that she claims to love with all her heart.
Well in all likelihood, she was either lying or doesn't understand or recognize consequences as applicable to her.
>Does she really love him or does she ignore that sentiment?
What is love from a person who only acknowledges their own feelings?

>>18349420
I've asked women that cheated on me and other female friends that I know have cheated and they say they aren't thinking of the bf or husband but themselves and the guy they are with, even upon their return home. Women compartmentalize so that raunchy romp is separate from the cuddle with the bf later.

Reasons they cheat vary some. Excitement over a new guy, attention, anger, depressed but almost all said they planned to get laid either by a guy they knew and set it up or went out looking for a one nighter.

>>18349706
How do you deal with normies who try to bully you or your gf into letting the other get cucked? Does that happen to you?

>>18349700
>girls need to have like 2 guys they bounce between
at least 2 but usually have more on the bench for back up.

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>>18349706
>she hasn't either

>>18349420
Scientifically women are very much less likely to work on a risk reward scenario. To be very general women are wired for a if it feels good do it mentality. They don't weigh options or risk effectively and tend to go with feelings over thinking things through. This isn't a negative by the way it's just how were different. That being said it explains why a lot of women cheat and sacrifice great relationships for short term benefits. Men are more likely to weigh outcomes for better long term success then women.

>>18349714
so what outcome is the men that fuck other guys girlfriends thinking about?

>>18349700
Nah bro. She was chasing some bs with him because she is fucked up emotionally. He was also a shitty abusive partner. So it wasn't healthy. And I don't deserve that. I could forgive it, but I could never be ok with it. And if she had done it to me again I would quit trying.

>>18349420
women don't feel guilt over infidelity and have no problem with lying to cover the set up or aftwards. Men typically believe people can see guilt written on them. It comes from their mother seeing them and immediately knowing they did something wrong and cannot hide it.

>>18349711
I live in a very rural area and farm professionally for a living along with some limited online trading (fuck satellite internet by the way)

So we mostly just spend all day together. We are both very very clingy people. Our codependency is a positive relationship value in my opinion. so our interactions with normies are very low and the normies we do interact with are older rural people.

>>18349713
I understand your hesitancy to believe but trust me. Distance and the fact we both obsess over each other goes a long way to not getting cucked. We haven't left the house this month. Tomorrow we plan to take the trip to town to buy next months groceries and odds/ends. Maybe some new vidya.

>>18349714
Men lose our heads because of a hard dick and women also lose rational thought when the blood rushes to their pussy. They aren't thinking of anything beyond getting that thing pounded.

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You can't know for sure that she hasn't cheated on you, mate.

>>18349420
>implying women are capable of love for anyone other than their offspring

>>18349720
I exclusively fuck women in relationships but not my friends women I have some scruples. Fucking an attached woman is much easier with less drama than a single woman who has other suitors and may want some type of relationship. I just want the pussy and let them know I will keep my mouth shut, they will have a great fuck session and I want them to go back to there home and life. Getting caught and losing what they have (not really the guy but the life and reputation) is mostly the only barrier so if you remove that risk you can be neck deep in horny, freaky pussy. They want to do things with me they rarely or have never done with their partner.

>>18349420
Nothing.


Nothing goes through her head, so long as she thinks she's getting away with it she doesn't feel even the tinniest tinge of guilt. She doesn't care about your feelings, you are nothing to her. All she cares about it is making sure you think she loves you, cause then you'll do stuff for her.

>>18349714
That is the exact opposite of true. Women are more focused on the consequences of risks than men. (Harris, Jenkins, 2006)

Don't believe me? Try researching instead of pulling "facts" out of your ass based on you our role notion of womanhood.

>>18349748
>Women are more focused on the consequences of risks than men.
so why do they cheat or have multiple guys around them?

>>18349751
But guys are statistically more likely to cheat than women. Statistics may not be completely reliable, but they're more reliable than anecdotal evidence.

>>18349752
Men are more likely to get caught so it seems they are more likely. Fucked almost 3 dozen women who were in a relationship and none had ever been caught.

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>>18349748
Not him, but you are right. This is the reason why trading desks at Goldman, JPM, Citadel, Bridgewater, etc, are 90% men.

The answer to OP is that women have less dignity and are generally way more insecure than men.

>>18349752
so its all mens fault.

>>18349738
Got any funny stories of people you cucked?

>>18349754
>Anecdotal evidence
Literally not an argument. Men are statistically more likely to cheat than women. Stats aren't entirely reliable because of the likelihood that a lot of people don't tell the truth, but anecdotal evidence is even more useless than stats.
>>18349762
That doesn't even make sense. My comment and this discussion have nothing to do with anyone being at "fault".

>>18349738
How do you approach them?
I do not get how a chick in a relationship is so willing to just fuck someone else on the low.

>>18349765
the stats prove the men are fault for cheating. you just said it

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>>18349752
>self-reported studies
>women admitting shit

>>18349764
yeah.

One married coworker and I had been dropping sexual innuendo for a month, her husband wrecked her car so she asked me for rides to and from work and she had me stop at a hotel the first day and fucked me silly she was so pissed at him. Fucked her for months. Her husband kept trying to let him take and pick her up but she wouldn't let him.

Anothers husband came to pick her up at work after we closed a little early and he was banging on the door while we finished up fucking right out of sight. Crazy bitch tried to straighten her hair some, wiped her mouth off, grabbed her purse and calmly walked to the door and left and gave him a kiss.

>>18349772
You really don't believe that most women cheat because their boyfriend cheated first? Do you know how many people stay together and cheat to piss each other and everyone around them off?

>>18349779
That is some shit man. Getting cucked like this is one of my worst fears.

>>18349769
I don't approach them. I do let them know I would be down for fucking them and would keep my mouth shut. They do the rest. Women have very active imaginations if you plant a little seed.

>>18349771
No, I said that men are more likely to cheat than women. The whole debate started over the "women don't think logically, so they cheat more than men" post. If that were the case, men wouldn't cheat more than women.

>>18349781
What are you talking about?

>>18349772
Doesn't that imply that even if women cheat as much as men, they at least have the decency to feel ashamed about it?

>men cheat more than women, making them worse
>men and women cheat the same, but men feel no shame for the act, making them worse

really makes you think

>>18349725
>So we mostly just spend all day together. We are both very very clingy people. Our codependency is a positive relationship value in my opinion. so our interactions with normies are very low and the normies we do interact with are older rural people.

Wow I wish I had your life ... There are nothing but junkies where I live and they're all very disrespectful, broken, terrible people who try to drag everybody down with them.

>>18349790
>I said that men are more likely to cheat than women.
exactly. men are the true scum. its not womens fault

>>18349792
(you)

>>18349791
see
>>18349779
The husband cheats, or I guess in that case does something else to "warrant" cheating by whatever standards the girl in question has, so she does it for revenge. Guys don't do that, they just make "mistakes" and expect forgiveness for being deliberately stupid.

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>>18349772
>narrative BTFO by stats
>b-b-but my anecdotal e-e-evidence

>>18349795
No, this has nothing to do with anyone being at fault, you fucking idiot. It has everything to do with a faulty "women don't use logic like men do, so they cheat more" narrative, which is blatantly false.

>>18349786
What is crazy some you would never in a million years think it.

One crazy bitch I met while buying beer at a lake resort I was at with a bunch of guys and she was there with her family, a few of her friends and their husbands. She followed me to my cabin and later that evening she and two of her gf's show up. WTF, she said the husbands were fishing so we all partied and she later took me outside and we fucked but begged me not to say anything around her friends. Saw her the next day with her husband and she kept cutting her eyes over at me and primping.

>>18349800
Stats in itself isn't worth squat if the actually study was bad.

>>18349779
>>18349805
Stop posting your cuck fantasies here, faggot. These sound like they're straight from the script of a bad porn movie.

>>18349808
And neither is anecdotal evidence. Have you considered you might actually be in the wrong this time?

>>18349799
the married coworker in question was ready to fuck me she was just waiting for a reason to justify it and when her husband wrecked her car she fucked me the next day. The build up had been going on for a month.

>>18349810
they are all fucking true and telling you women are crazy. got plenty more

>>18349808
Anecdotal evidence isn't worth anything at all in any circumstance. The fact of the matter is that in the studies we ACTUALLY have, men are more likely to cheat than women. You can doubt the credibility of those studies all you want, but at least they are actually documented proof, unlike any anecdotal evidence anyone has.

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>>18349812
>anecdotal evidence
Why do you keep bringing up anecdotal evidence. I have nothing to do with anecdotal evidence.

>>18349420
Then there are dudes trying mastery concerning perception what could chemistry compare compounding intellect

>>18349814
Yeah, I'm sure you do. You've probably got a whole journal of this made up shit. You are so goddamn attractive that random women are literally fucking you after seeing you buy beer at a resort.

>>18349813
>she was just waiting for a reason to justify it

It was always justified in her mind, if she was going to do it at all. She thinks it's an appropriate response to something that makes her unhappy in the relationship. That just makes her, specifically, an awful person.

>>18349823
It had nothing much to do with me. The woman wanted to get laid and I happened to be there and acceptable. Its about timing, recognizing opportunity and not caring if they are attached to someone or not.

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>>18349815
>they are actually documented proof

>>18349805
>things that never happened: the post
I thought the common narrative on here was that it was hard to get women to fuck you unless you were super attractive/rich. Are you famous or something? Why would a random woman at a resort just need to fuck you so bad because she saw you at the store or whatever. Fucking stupid.

>>18349827
>an awful person
she wasn't awful but bored and boring as hell and while still in her 20's and hot, had two kids and husband and a mortgage. She wanted some excitement and got it.

>>18349829
Kek, whatever you say man. I'm not gonna argue with you about it. If it's that important to you that people believe obviously made up stories about how irresistible you were that you were picking up completely random married women at the store and fucking them hours later, be my guest.

>>18349838
Again it had little to do with me except I had a dick and there was opportunity. This woman came right out and told me when she came by our cabin she wanted to get laid and had wanted it for awhile. Had it not been me it would have been another guy the next day or next week.

>>18349804
which comes from men making women have to use logic. because men are shitty

>>18349849
You aren't even staying on topic at this point. Try a little harder.

>>18349840
You're only sticking up for her because you fucked her. No decent person would ever do this, especially over a wrecked car. Try not to make it so obvious you think with your dick.

>>18349846
I never once said I was irresistible or even gave you a description. Just relating that women are ready and willing constantly and being in a relationship doesn't stop them and actually makes it easier for me since I do not want a relationship and they don't want to ruin theirs. We fuck and they leave.

>>18349866
You're bragging about having sex with broken psychopaths. Nobody is jealous of you dude.

>>18349865
I do think with my dick, no apologies, but I also do not want to be in a relationship because I know the first time my back is turned she would be fucking so guy.

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>>18349847
>This woman came right out and told me when she came by our cabin that she wanted to get laid and had wanted it for a while
I wish my life were a pornographic film too.
>>18349865
She doesn't exist. This guy's stories are cartoonishly over the top.

>>18349871
>with broken psychopaths
Some of them may be but some you would never, ever believe if you knew them

>>18349880
Most crazy people don't end up getting treated for their crazy, because adultery is physically a victimless crime. There is only correlation between it and mental illness.

>>18349857
but we got down to the answer

>>18349872
Maybe that's on you for not having any other kind of draw.

>>18349818
So what you're saying is you have no evidence at all?

>>18349885
I quit trying to understand but all I could come up with is, for them if no one knew then no real harm was done. I don't entirely believe that and certainly not giving myself a complete free pass for my contribution to their infidelity but I never had to ask them, they all made the moves and had several ask days before our first hook up if I had recent STD or HIV test results. I mean it wasn't sexy but calculating to minimize risk.

>>18349431
>don't love them anymore
You never did in the first place, desu senpai. You just had infatuation.

>>18349892
I never said anything to begin with, I'm just pointing out your bullshit.

>>18349896
I don't understand, they cheat because they have no conscience which makes them psychopaths. You do have a conscience, you know it's ruining someone else's relationship but deliberately go against it because getting laid is all that's important to you. You should be neutered.

>>18349907
>you know it's ruining someone else's relationship
No one's relationship is getting ruined though, it's a victimless crime. A relationship is only ruined if someone exposes the affair, and I sure as hell don't plan on doing that.

>>18349901
Oh, I see what you mean then. You're right that we can't truly verify the accuracy of the study, but it's not a data point that can be dismissed. Now, are you going to continue by pointing out the bullshit that everyone else is pulling, or just the people you disagree with?

>>18349738
Yeah this pretty much.
Women in relationships are much sluttier.
Makes me sick to be honest.

>>18349917
The relationship is ruined when someone cheats, because of you. Don't try rationalizing it any other way by invalidating the terms of a monogamous relationship. You're a homewrecker, you enable the behavior and if they don't find out because of you, they'll find out because of someoene else. You're a piece of shit.

>>18349907
its not ruining a relationship if no one knows. If it wasn't my dick it would be someone else and in some cases the women had lovers before and I'm sure I wasn't the last.

>>18349929
She's an adult free to do whatever she wants. I'm no different from the liquor store that sells to alcoholics or the casino that admits gambling addicts. I provide a service, I didn't force anyone to cheat. If they want to invalidate the terms of THEIR relationship, it's not my problem. It's not my duty to withhold the sanctity of other people's relationships.

Women will ask their friends and they Will come up with a way to justify their behaviour because that's what women do in groups. If you don't believe me spend any time with women when one of them has some kind of drama going on

>>18349420

She cares about you platonically but no longer loves you in a romantic sense. You are there for security but you're a temporary measure until she works out what the better option is.

>>18349923
You're the one saying that men cheat more than women based on self-reported evidence.

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>>18349420
The woman is leaving a lower rank male for another male who has a higher rank in the dominance hierarchy. They'll switch partners also when they see that the male they are with has no interest in raising his rank.

>he doesn't have enough "drive"

Or she has mental issues stemming from a shit early life with observations of shit relationship examples.

Either way, be thankful that you found out sooner than later that she's not worth your time and money. Good riddance. Some women have loyalty but many do not. To find a higher quality woman you have to keep putting effort into self improvement. Women fucking love hearing how you are striving to better yourself because that tells them you are improving your chances at moving up the dominance hierarchy.

>>18349431
Nope. You cheat because you are selfish and have low empathy and low self discipline.

When I cheated on my boyfriend was because our relationship have fundamentally changed. Neither one of us wanted to admit it, but it did.

>>18350023
why didn't you just break up? That's what I'm interested in

>>18350024
Naivety I guess. I didn't really realize what was going on till after it had happen. Short version is that we move to two different schools very far away. We said we would call each other every day and visit each other ever weekend. Over time that changed and we started to hang out with people.

>>18349420
Multiole reasons but widescale studies find that no in general it doesnt mean they arent in love anymore.

It could mean somethings wrong in the relationship, theyre missing something, theyre bored, they insecure, in an unstable part of their life, or just met someone who struck them the right way and couldnt resist.

But rarely does it mean "out of love."
Also most of the time its unplanned or starts innocently.

They meet someone, become friends (with that being the only intention) fail to see the warning signs of building romance and sexual tension, sometimes even because rhey put way too much faith in themselves and their own resolve and love if their partner, and then they find themselves needing/longing for the outside person.


Humans are both monogomous and polygamist at the same time. We are neurologically wired for both. You can thank the fact evolution is imperfect for that one.

>>18350048
> You can thank the fact evolution is imperfect for that one.

Perfection doesn't apply to evolution, if anything the imperfection lies in people getting buttmad over trivial sex on the side. So very very buttmad.

>>18350083
>So very very buttmad
Wouldn't you be?

>>18350083
They're mad because the terms of the relationship were violated. If people want open relationships they should agree to it first. It's not rocket science.

>>18350085
Not to the point where I'd think it The Worst Thing In The World, worth junking 10 years of effort over or whatever, no.

>>18350107
It pretty much is the most disrespectful thing you can do to a person who confided in you to not do this one single thing.

>>18350111
You'll have to rephrase, confided makes no sense there.

>>18350107
And what *is* the worst thing in the world? Do they have to have severed heads stored in the freezer to warrant a break up? Isn't deliberately violating your trust enough to cut anyone out of your life?

If other people want to work through trying to salvage their relationship after that, it's their business, but it's none of yours to try and rationalize it to other people.

>>18350107
You have definitly not been cheated on.

Yet.

>>18350121
No, they have pitifully low empathy and would never actually love anyone enough to care.

>>18350122
Cue the troop of buttmad tards who think reality is the one that must conform to their bodgy maps.

>>18350126
You're the one preaching to people about how they're wrong for leaving their partners because of infidelity. You're the one who's insecure, buddy.

>>18350131
Preaching? No. I'm merely being contrarian, I expect no converts while you're all so busily grabbing each others dicks'.

>>18350138
Right, that's why you couldn't keep your shitty opinion to yourself in the first place.

>>18349700
You realize that shit barely exists outside of 4chan and plebbit right?

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>>18349420
Don't get advice on women from adv, reddit or in real life. It's from people with too low iq and understanding of life.

Get it from pol, no joke, that's where you find the turboautists that fell out of society and didn't get struck with a "deal with it" then alcohol mentality fueled by narcissism for society and their image which regular high iq working people get.
There you will find the ones with overloaded brains from a constant search for answers.

I have 135 iq, I am a total mess socially but I have a filled mind that had explored most of this life on the surface. My version of the truth is, feminism ruined the dynamics between the sexes, if woman are equals then they're more equal due to childbearing and higher actual value for survival of the tribe and nation.

In the old days when high finance jews didn't do tricks to control the populace, such as feminism, a woman was usually pairbonded at a young age, the man had a good economy to work with and was someone you could look up to. Now when women can't look up to the normal guy they crave for more more and more, they are a mix of child and adult and with too many possible options the whole system goes haywire.

The relationships that generally work best are the ones formed at a young age when a womans mind is formable and when men aren't competition but a tutor snd reliable life long partner introduced at 15-18, before any cockfiesta and unlimited options (feminism) are avaible.


Your girl might not realize what she's doing but her lack of bonding at an early age left her looking endlessly for something magical cause she knows she's lost, even though she can't precise why.

In short, either totally outcompete every man out there so the damage dealt is slowly reversed and she will learn to serve(yes) and look up to you with regained femininity, or just try your luck until you find one that's not as lost as this one were.

Quite possibly the guy she cheated with wasn't anything special over you.

>>18349738
You're a piece of shit. Kill yourself.

>>18350141
The whole point of the chins is violated if anons must keep mute on topics that make others get a rush of the vapors.

"Shitty opinion"; no, you.

>>18350163
Chan culture isn't an excuse to be an apologist for sociopathic behavior. Kys.

>>18350167
U mad. Hope you get cheated on.

>>18349789
qft

>>18350169
I'm in a happy, monogamous relationship with someone who actually is considerate of other's feelings. Something you don't deserve and aren't worth.

Not sure mate.
Some just do it. Like an ex of mine that kept talking to me. Even after she got another bf. She came to my house one day. I was surprised to see her and just wanted to chat. We banged and latter she told me that still loved me, but didn't want to hurt the other guy. Pretty much told her to go, and I messaged the other guy exposing her.

It was a fun day.
But they do it for any reason. Not getting enough attention, not enough sex, sex isn't fun enough, the other guy is friendlier, I needed money. Etc etc etc.

>>18350180
Love it, found an insult more incisive than "kys" here.

But I'll refrain from pushing that button further, you aren't worth it.

My point stands.

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>>18350183
>Even after she got another bf. She came to my house one day. I was surprised to see her and just wanted to chat. We banged and latter she told me that still loved me
>she told me that still loved me
>still loved me
>Even after she got another bf

>>18350197
Yep. Pretty much why I banged her up once and turned her in. She thought I was going to be cool with everything, she was holding me and saying shit like that. That the other guy was a mistake and that they still didn't fuck. I played with her a bit actually. I had her break with the other guy first, move out and then I let him know.

We had 6 years together. Found another bf in two months.
Reason why we broke up? I was dealing with ptsd, she couldn't deal with it. I had been getting therapy when it happened.

>>18350006
No, I'm not. I didn't even post those statistics. I'm saying that the data, whatever conclusion you draw from it, still harms your side of the argument.

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>>18349706
>no desire to cheat
Shes right there, watching you type this, isn't she?
Maybe you haven't felt a want to cheat but surely you've thought; fucking this chick isn't as exciting anymore, It would be nice to fuck [insert crush here]

>>18350576
>your side of the argument
Which is?

I assume the same thing that goes through a guy's head when he cheats?

>>18349497
>she lied to me and herself, put me through hell and dropped me like I was nothing, like she didn't owe me shit

iktf
that's what happens when you don't detect selfish people in time